Question S22 Ultra / Magic 5 Pro / OnePlus 11 - Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra

Hi all.
I'm currently looking for a new phone, and currently have 3 choices.
Honor Magic 5 Pro 512GB: USD 930 (Honor Official)
Samsung S22 Ultra 256GB: About USD 600 (Like New Second-hand with no warranty)
OnePlus 11 256GB: About USD 812 (OnePlus Official)
Which one is a better value for money? Appreciate all comments, thanks.

salted.caramel said:
Hi all.
I'm currently looking for a new phone, and currently have 3 choices.
Honor Magic 5 Pro 512GB: USD 930 (Honor Official)
Samsung S22 Ultra 256GB: About USD 600 (Like New Second-hand with no warranty)
OnePlus 11 256GB: About USD 812 (OnePlus Official)
Which one is a better value for money? Appreciate all comments, thanks.
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I would never buy a used phone. No way to know how it was used by the previous owner.
S22U would have been my pick had it been new.
I don't have too much idea about the software on Honor device. But it is a very good phone based on reviews.
In this case, I'll go with OnePlus 11 just to be on the safe side.
Have you considered other phones like Vivo X90 and iQOO 11?

Ah, the vivo and iqoo aren't available in the region, but the s22u is "Certified" by the marketplace app.

salted.caramel said:
Ah, the vivo and iqoo aren't available in the region, but the s22u is "Certified" by the marketplace app.
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Those certifications mean nothing. Avoid a used phone if you can.

How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...

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How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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The S22U tends to run slightly warmer. The battery life is average at best. On an average, I get about 5 hours SOT (mostly on WiFi) and a standby time of about 15 hours when the battery is at 15%. They have sorted this out on the S23U, so if you can stretch your budget, you should consider getting that instead.
Everything else is excellent, even if the software has a few bugs here and there.
Between the S22U and the OnePlus 11, I'll go with the S22U only because of it's cameras (S-Pen is a bonus). This is not to say that the OnePlus 11 cameras are bad. They are very good too. But the S22U is better.
OnePlus 11 has the better SOC and lighter software on its side. So it will give you a snappier performance and better battery life.

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How about a brand new for USD740? Is it worth it? I'm concerned about the soc mainly...
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Brand new is better. If you read through the forums here, you'll read about people who bought used phones that were essentially paper weights because they were either stolen, or bought then resold without being paid off, and Samsung locked them.

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Mate 9 Pro released today in Scandinavia

If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
Avalible for preorder now, delivery starts on 20. of december.
Price 5.999 DKK (appx. 800 EUR) for 128 GB version. Preorders includes a pair of Huawei AM185 Active Noise Cancelling earphones.
Full specs: http://consumer.huawei.com/dk/support/products/technicalspecs/mate9pro-dk.htm
It's a nice phone but the screen size is to small for my tastes. Hopefully they will still release the same specs with a 5.9 inch form factor.
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Yep, 5.9 a must have!
EMF said:
If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
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At what price ?
Lodix said:
At what price ?
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5.999 DKK list price (about 800 EUR).
I have preordered with a 6 month contract a about 4.750 DKK / 640 EUR.
It is 128GB only + slot for SD card or a second sim (which I am going to use it for)
EMF said:
5.999 DKK list price (about 800 EUR).
I have preordered with a 6 month contract a about 4.750 DKK / 640 EUR.
It is 128GB only + slot for SD card or a second sim (which I am going to use it for)
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Please post sample photos when you receive it [emoji6]
I like a Mate series screen to be big ha ha
Quad HD would have been nice but full HD is good too in real life if you don`t use VR.
Any online shop taking preorders?
EMF said:
If you as me is loving the design of the Mate 9 Porsche but not the price, there is good news. The Mate 9 Pro has been released today in Scandinavia at a event held in Copenhagen. The Mate 9 Pro is basically the Mate 9 Porsche without the Porsche branding, and at around half the price.
The Mate 9 Pro was released in China a few weeks ago, but it is great to see it released in Europe.
Avalible for preorder now, delivery starts on 20. of december.
Price 5.999 DKK (appx. 800 EUR) for 128 GB version. Preorders includes a pair of Huawei AM185 Active Noise Cancelling earphones.
Full specs: http://consumer.huawei.com/dk/support/products/technicalspecs/mate9pro-dk.htm
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Please can you provide us the website to order this mobile ?
I second the motion. @EMF
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Please can you provide us the website to order this mobile ?
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Currently it is only available for pre-order. It will be delivered from december 20. It can be pre-ordered from most of the mobile service providers and a few tech-shops like http://www.elgiganten.dk/product/mo...T9PGY/huawei-mate-9-pro-smartphone-128-gb-gra and http://www.wupti.com/produkter/mobil,-gps-og-foto/mobiltelefoner/huawei/huawei-mate-9-pro-gold. I don't think they ship internationally thu, and the mobile service providers definitely dont.
The phone will probably be available from more shops after it becomes available for delivery.
It doesn't support SD card slot though. Neither does the Porsche edition apparently. They claim it's due to support for 3G/4G on the second SIM but from what I understand the regular Mate 9 does support both. Just wanted to throw that out there.
I'm currently strongly considering picking it up but I'm deeply concerned about dev support considering the Kirin SoC, multiple SKUs with varying specs and potentially few devs picking up the device due to price and availability.
The pro variant including porsche design scored less in performance and graphics compared to the full fledged Mate 9.
So choose what you want in your Mate 9. Performance or Looks.
Emerald Core said:
The pro variant including porsche design scored less in performance and graphics compared to the full fledged Mate 9.
So choose what you want in your Mate 9. Performance or Looks.
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That's a given. HIgher resolution display and the same chip in a bigger device usually gives a higher thermal headroom resulting in better benchmark scores but the difference should be negligible.
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That's a given. HIgher resolution display and the same chip in a bigger device usually gives a higher thermal headroom resulting in better benchmark scores but the difference should be negligible.
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You know , I sold my Mate 9 for the only purpose of buying the Pro variant with 6gb/128 configuration.
Well until someone confirms that we can get a pro with Google play installed officially.
Emerald Core said:
You know , I sold my Mate 9 for the only purpose of buying the Pro variant with 6gb/128 configuration.
Well until someone confirms that we can get a pro with Google play installed officially.
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Well, as this thread indicates, the Pro can be bought with Google Play installed
(However, it will be released on December 20th, so that's a long way to go if you intend to install the Scandinavian ROM on what I assume is a Chinese variant?)
In fact, If I buy the Mate 9, I can only buy the Pro unless I buy from another EU country. The regular Mate 9 has not been launched in Scandinavia which disappointed many and they said at the time that they had no intentions of bringing it here. Fast forward three weeks and the Pro was announced to launch and the Pro will be the only Mate 9 variant in the Scandinavian market. So I'm guessing that the Pro might only be on the market in China and Scandinavia which makes me question the development for the device :/
It saddens me a bit that the Pro will actually be a step back in some regards compared to the regular variant: no SD card slot and slightly decreased SoC performance (as you mention), fewer color variants (only two colors for this market: gold and grey) - and some would say the fingerprint scanner moving to the front is a downgrade as well. I also saw some disappointment in the AMOLED display not being a 6" (or larger) one; the complaint being they wanted an actual big phone but I don't mind too much personally. I have a 5.2" device now and it already slips out of some of my pockets due to the size, so a 6" behemoth wouldn't help in that department
They probably couldn't source a decent AMOLED display at that size although I'm curious as to how well calibrated the display is. Huawei and other Chinese manufacturers haven't been known for their attention to that kind of detail. Samsung, the Pixel and the OnePlus 3(T) have well calibrated AMOLED displays but the rest of the market seems to neglect that.
Call me guilty, I put my Pixel XL for sale and bought a Mate 9 (second time after the gold M9) with my favorite color Space Grey (no more silly black borders).
Emerald Core said:
Call me guilty, I put my Pixel XL for sale and bought a Mate 9 (second time after the gold M9) with my favorite color Space Grey (no more silly black borders).
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Congratz! I knew you would come back...
Well, I bit the bullet and pre-ordered the Huawei Mate 9 Pro in Space Grey. So I'll be getting a nice Christmas present.
I just hope development for this device will pick up because it will certainly prolong the life of the device; however it does seem from reviews that it's a great device.
I'm coming from an LG G2 which has been somewhat of an underground success with a fantastic developer community around it, so I doubt any non-Samsung/Nexus/Pixel/OnePlus device can live up to that but hopefully it will be enough
I have the Porsche Design and placed alongside my mate 9 the screen size difference is negligible due to the on screen navigation buttons on the mate 9.

Oneplus 6 alternatives

So we all know the op6 is coming soon and many of us are hoping to upgrade our outdated devices,but with Oneplus success in the market in recent years, their prices are continuosly going up,,maybe by small amounts on each phone,may be a big rise with the op6,we don't know yet
Anyway.What if the op6 launches with a price you cant afford.
What alternative devices have you in mind.
I have more or less decided that I will get a nokia 7 plus if the op6 is too expensive because it has what I need.Big battery and promise of frequent updates.Ive considered the honor view 10 and mi mix 2s also
What other mid to high range devices are you considering if tbe op6 is out of reach ?
ASUS Zenfone 5
only galaxy s9+ with unlocked bootloader.
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
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What about the hardware? How can you ever bring this as an alternative?
Snapdragon 660? 4gig ram?
In this case xiaomi mi a1 is better, Android one
Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
rav101 said:
The Nokia 7 Plus is going to be way cheaper than the OP6. It's cheaper than the OP5 and OP5T.
At its price, I don't think you can beat the Nokia 7 Plus but then again you need to consider what is or isn't important to you. OnePlus will have an awesome Development scene which there isn't with Nokia (unless it starts to develop and is contingent on unlocked bootloader and kernel sources being released).
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I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
manus31 said:
I dont know where you fo your shopping mate but ehere I am to he 5 t is €499,
The 7+ is retailling at 3€399,not a massive difference.I sgree that Oneplus is more developer friendly but I would put the nokia 7 plus in that mid range section snd it will surely be much cheaper than tbe op6
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In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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rav101 said:
In the UK the Nokia 7 Plus is £349.99. The 64gb OnePlus 5T is £449.
My logic is that the OnePlus flagships have been going up around £50 each year so the OnePlus 6 is likely to start at £499 and you were asking for the difference between the OnePlus 6 and alternatives. The Nokia 7 Plus is 30% cheaper.
Edit: I would note that I think the Nokia 7 Plus looks like a really good phone and would be tempted by it too.
Potentially consider the Asus ZenFone 5Z as another alternative but I think that is £499 also. If you're looking for the 845 processor, I can't really think of any other good options. Depends on what's important to you.
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Yes absolutely you are right,20 to 30% difference in price of 5t and 7+ depending what country your in.It will be interesting to see what happens with the op6,but as you say it will certainly be higher.
I have been researching a lot of different devices to replace my op3 lately.I look at all the reviews,watch the youtube videos and join the forums to see what users are saying.
If I was to buy a phone now based on hardware alone and value for money Id go for the Honor view 10 with the kerin 970,but Honor are poor with updates.The Zenphone 5z looks great,but I dont think it will be available in UK/Ireland till July.It will though be cheaper than the op6 and 5t.
The Nokia 7+ is out May 2nd on Amazon,Im hoping the op6 is announced before then so I can make an informed decision,but could be ridiculous prices in which case Ill happily go for the 7+ which should be more than good enough for day to day use, especially as a non gamer.I don't play around with Roms as much as I use to and will be happy eith tbe long battery life and regular updates.
I do like oxygen os though and Oneplus are great with updates and theres a great community.Will be interesting to see what happrns within tbe next month or two
Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
sdmackie said:
Bought the pixel 2 xl. It's a nice camera.
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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That's what smartphones are turning into: cameras with mobile functionality ;-/
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+1
4 lenses ftw
Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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Anyone considering the Essential Phone 2 (which I guess will launch in September 2018) as a viable option to the OP 6 ?
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I would have, unfortunately in Europe even the PH-1 isn't available at this point.
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I'm in the UK and I'm hoping for the Essential Phone 2 to come, otherwise pretty sure it will be the OnePlus 6, if it doesn't. I live in hope.
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Hoping to get the OnePlus in my country
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What country are you in? Has it not had OnePlus before?
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Huawei honor 10
Xiaomi mi 7
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same here looks like the 6 is going to be too expensive for me and the honor 10 does look really inviting now that it has been announced
If OnePlus 6 is a flagship killer, let's see what are available at the flagship level in my country at 64GB variant
835:
Pixel 2 XL - Rs.57,995
LG V30+ - Rs.44,990 (Only 128GB)
Nokia 8 Sirocco - Rs.49,900
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 - Rs.67,900
Mi Mix 2 - Rs.32,999 (Only 128GB)
845:
OnePlus 6 - Expected around Rs.35,000
Samsung Galaxy s9/s9+ - Rs.57,900 / Rs.64,900
Kirin 970:
Honor v10 - Rs.29,999 (Only 128GB)
Huawei P20 Pro - Expected around Rs.50,000
Huawei P20 - Expected around Rs.30,000
The only problem which I see out for OP6 is the territory it's venturing into. Those who are spending north of 30k won't mind spending extra for getting what they needed. Mediocre Camera will definitely kill OP6 on arrival since every single unit there gives you the best. If Huawei P20 Pro comes around 40k. It'll cannibalize OP6 hands down. But i think Huawei P20 might be in OP6 territory and might give some serious trouble for them.
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Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S.
Better: Camera, no notch, big screen, Project Treble (i'm not sure), and price imo
Worse: IPS screen, no 3.5mm Jack, Almost the same battery of the OP5
EDIT: I was wondering and just realized that every year, OnePlus makes a very well made flagship phone with latest soc, etc. and little additions (dual camera, now water resistance) it's all nice and good. The only deal thing is the price. I like OnePlus, (had the 3 and now the 5) and i understand that they make better and better every year, so it's obvious that it needs to cost more. I'll definitely buy the 6, in the end there are no alternatives sadly
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For customization, I agree. OnePlus just does that better than all the other Android based smartphones out there. For other features though, I'm getting less and less impressed by their offerings each year, and when they get too expensive, I'll simply stop getting them,. I'll probably still get the 6 though, but if their prices get as high as iPhone level, I'm out.
I know it's not a new phone, as it's been out a while, but I quite liked the Razer Phone. So might get one of those if the OP6 doesn't impress me enough. But let's wait and see.

Should I wait for Oneplus 7t pro? Or buy 7 Pro now?

I have recently sold my Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus to get the Oneplus 7 pro, which I haven't bought it yet, however passing through comments and reviews on YouTube, some say that the 7T will be released really soon, but it will be focused on 5G capability.
I really don't care about 5G, but what about the processor? SD855+ which is slightly overclocked.
While now the 7 is cheaper than it was when it's first released... Should I wait?
Any comments and advices are welcome!
you will get a slightly faster cpu which our phones max out every game out there already. They might use an under screen camera. What else can you do to a phone? Phones have tapped out. All they can do now is add gimmicky ****.
They said they are keeping the same design of the oneplus 7 pro. Probably 855+ which 100% of people will not see a different just a few numbers higher in benchmarks. Add water resistant ip rating and wireless charging. Maybe a new faster charger since oneplus is now beat by the note 10+ with only their 25w charger. Maybe screen push to 120hz. But who knows. All this are my thought. But they definitly keep the same pop up camera design
7 T will release in october or november, depends when it will be ready.
5G network it's a joke now !
7 pro T can't have too much new hardware/options.
Could be More Expensive than 7 pro...
Wait for the pixel 4. Camera is still better. While we use gcam to get a better photo. Pixels just use the original gcam without a mess
I don't even buy a pone in the fall as you're getting a phone with an SoC (SD855) that will be replaced with a new SoC in just 3 months or so. I'm not paying full price for a phone that will be outdated so soon after buying it. Buying the phones in the spring lets you have the latest tech for a year before anything new comes out. I've bought 3 OP phones now, OP5, OP6, and the OP 7pro. I would never spend my money on a T version. When I buy the regular version nothing the whole rest of the year will have a better SoC sooo!?
It's like buying a car in August, you wouldn't want to pay new car price when it's about to be a leftover as the new models are coming out.
OnePlus 7 Pro for the win now! You could always sell it later if you see something better...
Do wish they would flatten out the screen a little more....the curve screen on the 7pro is difficult to view under light because of the reflection on the sides.
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I have recently sold my Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus to get the Oneplus 7 pro, which I haven't bought it yet, however passing through comments and reviews on YouTube, some say that the 7T will be released really soon, but it will be focused on 5G capability.
I really don't care about 5G, but what about the processor? SD855+ which is slightly overclocked.
While now the 7 is cheaper than it was when it's first released... Should I wait?
Any comments and advices are welcome!
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Yes buy overclocking if you wanna keep divice for 1 year. After one year you have higher chance of dying cpu.
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Yes buy overclocking if you wanna keep divice for 1 year. After one year you have higher chance of dying cpu.
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The SD855+ is a newer version of the SD855 that increases the speed of the core.
People just callout overclocked, but Qualcomm has increased the clock and certified functionality and longevity at that new increase in. speed.
They will essentially be the same thing. I'd get the 7pro now, but if you can wait and can spend the extra ~$200 the 7Tpro will be great too.

Question Are you interested in switching to a Google Pixel 7 Pro?

Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7 Pro, which seems to be a best of smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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It is rumored to use the Exynos 5300 modem. I have no idea if its gonna be any good.
Ref: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-3112003/
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It turns out that the Pixel 6 Pro uses the Shannon A5123 5G modem made by Samsung, the Shannon 5511 sub-6GHz FR1 transceiver box, and the Shannon 5710 FR2 mmWave transceiver. The latter is missing from the non-US versions of the Pixel 6 Pro.
Subject to confirmation, the Pixel 7 Pro is said to use Samsung's Exynos 5300 modem
We'll just have to wait and see what modem Google uses for the 7 series and the 7 Pro in particular
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If it uses the same modem as the 6 Pro, absolutely not.
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From what I've heard, it will have a new modem. That's why I nearly surely will get the 7 Pro.
I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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I am interested, my op10 pro goes back to amazon and I'll use OP7 pro.
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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That bad ?
I wonder how long before the other brand offer similarly fast charging
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There are no sources so no Kernel/Rom, lenses are blocked so no gcam, and there is no msm download tool anymore,
Soo OP 10 pro is trash.
I want to like the P7P, I want to get one, but the more I look at it, the more I lean towards jumping ship for Samsung or most likely Apple. It would be my first apple mobile device, but aside from the eSIM all seems well.
The P6 is dreaded, and it took them way too long to offer software fixes.
I'm worried about the modem and don't understand why they're not going with Qualcomm.
It doesn't look like we'll be getting much in terms of camera improvement.
The battery will most likely be similar to the P6.
To answer your question plainly, I don't think there is any price point that justifies the risk of another failed device. I plan on waiting for the reviews. If the modem ain't stellar, it will be an automatic no from me because of my remote usage. If the modem works as well as the competition, then I'll have a hard time choosing.
Not interested at this time, but will be watching hand's on reports and reviews....
After hearing that it still has A55 cores, it's a no for me. I have not decided if I'm sticking with my OnePlus 9 or switching back to iPhone (I was on the 12 Pro Max for the last two weeks but the OOS13 beta dropped on the OnePlus 9 today and I kind of like it so I'm back on the OnePlus for now) but most relevant to this thread, I'm *not* going back to Pixel.
I'm writing this from a pixel 2 XL. Was previously using a One Plus 9 Pro. Had to switch back after the hyped up Hasselblad camera stopped focusing. In hindsight, it was a mistake to go with the one plus brand. My old pixel 2 it's working much better, and I will certainly be getting the 7 Pro
Will depend on modem. The modem on Pixel 6 Pro is absolute dog**** worst I have used.
But I will be getting rid of the Pixel 6 Pro, this is by far the worst phone I have ever used.
I am very happy with the 6 pro, but I like the look of the new minimal curve on the 7 pro. if there is also a higher peak brightness i'll be tempted, depending on trade in deals.
I did not plan on buying the P7 Pro, but since it does bring in a couple serious improvements, I made my pre-order today
- finally we get decent 10 bit HDR recording
- Faceunlock (as far as the presentation went, it's only for unlocking the phone and will not work as a biometric in-app or to make a payment)
- finally a decent peak brightness to work in the sun (1500 nits)
- 20 vs 30 res zoom with new nifty features
- macro mode (missed that since my ancient Samsung Galaxy alpha days), guided frame also looks promising for making videos
- better modem (this one needs reviews of course to validate any improvements; the P6 Pro modem is terrible)
- Tensor 2 should bring, if we look at the node and Googles claims, a 20% improvement in efficiency = better battery life
- and last but not least, the deciding factor that made me get the P7 Pro... European Google store offer the Pixel Watch LTE, valued at 429 €, for free when pre-ordering the 899 € P7 Pro. If I couple that with Rakuten and a Google Store cashback of 10% (Google One, 2 TB), sell the watch and my old phone, I get a new shiny phone and will actually have more money than I started out with. That's great of course.
In July, I had planned to buy the Nothing Phone(1) which looked interesting, and which is despite its setbacks the 1st smartphone produced by Nothing. Then, for personal reasons, I didn't buy it, and I turned to the Pixel 7 series that was supposed to arrive.
Very tempted by the 7Pro in 256GB, I hesitated for a long time and changed my mind again.
Looking at the specs, even if Google has improved this 7 series, I'll try to wait for the 8 series, which should arrive with a new processor and finally a non-curved screen and maybe a significantly reduced size for the 8Pro 256GB.
I'm staying with my OP 7T 256GB which I'll soon upgrade to custom rom, as OnePlus is not in a hurry to upgrade it to OOS12.
I wish you good time for the owners Pixel 7 serie
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I'm not sure if that hope of yours will result in reality. Google has made it clear that they are all about design and how it looks, and less about function. Just listen to the people presenting Pixel products, look at the Pixel watch (little screen real estate (square smartwatches have great advantage) and continental sized bezels are okay, as long as it looks good): the aesthetic is of greater importance to Google than practicality.
There is simply nothing to indicate that Google would steer away from that path. They consider a curved display to look nice.
Ergo I highly doubt that Google would dramatically change that business strategy for the next iteration of this phone. People like you and me, who would enjoy an even panel more, are simply not in the targeting group of Googles marketing.
The Pixel 7 Pro is almost perfect but the Pixel 6 has the worst connectivity and reception of any phone I've used, even behind the Galaxy devices.
No reviews means it would be just great on paper.
it's time to retire my oneplus 7 pro and get pixel 7 pro
I really wish google would get into the charging game like the oneplus 10 plus... That thing charges from 20% to 80% in 10 minutes

Question Best honest places to buy 12 Ultra from EU

As above, any recomendations where to buy a 12 ultra from? I see most sellers on Ali sell ultra with Global version, which is guess is just a rom reflash. Id prefer to buy an original chinese rm and then flash the eu ROM myself.
thanks
Evo400 said:
As above, any recomendations where to buy a 12 ultra from? I see most sellers on Ali sell ultra with Global version, which is guess is just a rom reflash. Id prefer to buy an original chinese rm and then flash the eu ROM myself.
thanks
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On Ali you have the Cn or global choice.
tradingshenzhen.:the price seems lower.
From China (takes 10 days and no extra fees) - Also includes a 5€ coupon ^^
Xiaomi 12S ULTRA - 12GB/256GB - Leica Camera - 120 Hz LTPO
The Xiaomi 12S Ultra is a high-end flagship with Snapdragon 8 Plus Gen 1, 12 GB LPDDR5 RAM, 256 GB UFS 3.1 ROM, 4860 mAh battery with 67W Charge, 50W Wireless Charge, and a 6.73-inch Dolby Vision True Color LTPO 120 Hz display. The triple camera is made in cooperation with Leica and is led by a...
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I've been buying from there for ages and all perfect, you can even email them to send a sealed version (they usually open the box to check if everything is ok and install play store)
I've bought from Wanda mobile for several years without any issues or import duties.
SirTAVARES​Sathelp​What about the warranty?
NOSS8 said:
SirTAVARES​Sathelp​What about the warranty?
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1 year warranty. you send the device to germany i think where they have the warehouse.
I also have great experience with TradingShenzhen. I also have after sales experience. You can read more about it here. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/axon-40-ultra.4445957/post-87356365 I used the refund to buy the S12 Ultra, which should arrive in about 10-14 days from China. They have the 256 Gb version in stock in Europe, which should arrive in a few days without additional shipping costs. Good luck!
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1 year warranty. you send the device to germany i think where they have the warehouse.
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1 year return to them in China but I can confirm they do honour this and if you use the right route, it doesn't has to cost much more to ship there than it does to Germany now we're not part of EU . Both good service.
Aliexpress to avoid.
In comparison with the 12 pro:
A bigger battery, ip 68 but no 480 Hz sampling frequency, camera less good, 3 bands less, I find it expensive compared to the 12 pro.
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Aliexpress to avoid.
In comparison with the 12 pro:
A bigger battery, ip 68 but no 480 Hz sampling frequency, camera less good, 3 bands less, I find it expensive compared to the 12 pro.
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Also 12S pro is very good phone also with Leica camera that doesnt get much attention
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Also 12S pro is very good phone also with Leica camera that doesnt get much attention
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Battery identical to the 12 pro and it's really the fault of this phone, the autonomy.
Lack too many 4g bands for my region
I would rather go for a Mi 11 ultra.
I bit the bullet today and ordered the 12 S Ultra. I have done some testing and only once I saw band B20 so we'll see. The current demand for 12 Ultras in Europe is huge so selling it back won't be a problem if im not happy with it
I bought it from Quickmobile.ro very nice price, 20% off and QUICK202 is a 3% off voucher.
I paid 6199 RON, which is about 1250 EUR. Waited 7 business days to arrive via courier, right at my door.
I'm waiting for the original case now, bought from giztop
I got mine from tradingshenzen. They even emailed me to say that they have a same spec device that a customer didn't collect, in a distribution center in Germany, and would I accept it instead of a new delivery from China. It arrived the next day. I've seen them recommended on other forums too.
Word of Caution!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tradingshenzhen-caution.4495495/

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