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I've seen a few hit or miss issues that have been coming to light since the release of the TF700 infinity. On some devices, it seems to work and on others, not as well or not at all. From this, it seemed quite necessary to have a thread to identify the issues that others may encounter and for what they should check to know if they have a "good device" or whether it should be returned. Please let me know if their are any items that should be related to this list. If you wish to discuss your tablet's attributes (both good and bad) further, Pretoriano80 has made such a thread: [Infinity issues/defects/good features] Share your issues, defects or best features
Make sure you charge your tablet before using! Explanation in point 3.
Also, do not update past 9.4.5.26 during these tests if you want to use NVFlash!
1- Does your device have good build quality?
Some people have found that there are scratches on the device, frame's bent, the display is poorly set, the ports may be improperly mounted or other such things. It is recommended that if you encounter any of these that you return the device to get another one since you paid a lot of money for a "good" device. The tablet might click at corners, some of the backlight might bleed through around the edges of the display, or maybe show a slight but often not serious protrusion of the screen from the device. It's up to you to judge whether the extremity of this occurrence on your device are serious enough to warrant a return depending on your definition of "quality".
A possible test for "light bleed" is to take a picture from the camera in either a dark room or the camera lens covered (objective is to take a "black" photo). Open the image in the gallery app and turn up the brightness on the device. In this fashion you should be able to notice any "severe" cases of light bleed like this. If the light bleed is little and only noticeable during startup, then it's probably nothing to worry about.
2- Does your device have haptic feedback? (Does it vibrate properly?)
When you turn on and off your device, it should vibrate. This vibration will be subtle like the feeling of a working electrical appliance and not like a console joystick. If it doesn't, then it probably is defective. There are various methods to getting some type of jiggle out of the tablet if you want a more extensive test. One example is to add such feedback to your on-screen keyboard via Settings -> Language & Input. I'll just go over the basic "Android Keyboard". Select the sliders button next to the keyboard, look for "vibrate on keypress", put a little check next to that, then go into "advanced settings". By default, these vibrations are set to 1ms which is a duration too short to provide any feedback. Adjust the "Keypress vibration duration settings" to something like 100ms in order to ensure that the buzz happens. Finally, verify that your default keyboard is set to the "Android Keyboard" and then open up something like SuperNote where you can type. You should have some buzzing upon every keypress. When done with this test, just go back into the keyboard settings and disable the "vibrate on keypress".
3- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
Some people have noticed that they either never reach this amount or never come close to it. This is kind of an expected behavior since on the first page of the instructions manual (you did read the manual, right?) it mentions this:
"Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle." Therefore, one is supposed to charge the battery for up to an 8 hour period prior to use and then discharge the battery (until ~10% or so). You may encounter a variant of this concerning "a few cycles" but still, right after tearing the plastic off the box like a rapid child at Christmas, ensure that you just plug it in and forget about it for 8 hours (or until the charging light turns off). Otherwise, it can have a lasting negative impact on battery life.
More information about Li-ion can be found here.
4- Does the GPS work?
The TF700 shares a few things with the TF201 Prime (which had notoriously bad wireless, including Wifi communication, Bluetooth, and GPS). Some owners of the Prime didn't remember to check GPS even when everything else worked and later needed to get a Dongle. Ergo, why I put it here high on the list. I believe many of the issues dealing with hardware and software have been addressed by ASUS so if your GPS doesn't work, try updating (not past 9.4.5.26!) the device or send it back since it might be hardware related. Make sure that when testing, you have the "find location via wifi" option turned off if using Maps. Otherwise, test with a tool from Google Play Store like GPS Status or GPS Test. Note: testing may involve going outside and dancing with the device as the first connection is often the most difficult to get.
When GPS is working, you should see a little circle with a blinking dot inside in the lower right-hand corner. Sometimes, the dot might not blink and can seem to influence how well GPS programs work. Its a strange thing but with a simple solution (from myself encountering it on both the TF300 and the TF700): just open the notifications bar and close it again. The dot should be blinking. If not, try actually turning off and then turning back on the GPS via the notifications bar.
5- Does mini-HDMI work?
Though not necessarily a tendency of faults in the infinity, it is important to check all the offered functionality of the device prior to making it a permanent fixture in your life. Remember that if you don't have a friend with a mini-HDMI cable, Walmart (and many other stores) will accept returns provided they are within a particular time period. Feel free to use this return policy to test your device.
6- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Some people have noticed that there is a huge decrease in speed when watching a video while using a bluetooth headset for audio. The cause of this is unknown and the only explanation we know of is "because wifi and bluetooth share the same antenna". This seems plausible except that many other devices also use the same antenna for both functionalities yet do not display this behavior. Due to the underlying fact we do not know whether it is software or hardware related, it is advisable to return the product.
7- Does the headphone jack work?
Just for thoroughness and ease-of-testing, plug in a set of ear buds and make sure you hear sound. Some have complained that the quality is mediocre due to a humming noise but that the noise is negligible. If the noise is too pronounced, there still is the mounted speaker and if point 6's test was successful, bluetooth is still an option.
8- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
It has been widely noted that version .26 of the firmware made the tablet very snappy. This also helped the device to recognize more microSD cards but also caused problems with NTFS-formatted drives. If you aren't getting the response you want, try upgrading to .26 (not beyond that). Additionally, if your microSD card is NTFS, you may want to reformat it (backup whatever you want to keep first) to FAT32 or exFAT until the issues with NTFS are ironed out. This point also concerns point 9 further down.
9- Can you receive OTA updates? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Provided that you are on version .21 or .22, you should be able to receive updates from ASUS for your device via the "About Tablet" option in settings. If you cannot, this might be indicative of another issue which has yet to be identified. You can apply updates without OTA via these methods:
(easiest way)[HOW TO]Tired to wait the .26 with WW TF700 device?
(another way)*** Firmware News & Alternative Install Methods*** Ver. 9.4.5.26 27/07
(requires root)[HOWTO] Manually updating firmware using "dlpkgfile" download via Asus FOTA server
(requires unlocked bootloader)[HowTo] Restore Stock Recovery and Install .26 OTA Manually with Unlocked Bootloader
(requires unlocked bootloader and TWRP custom recovery)[CWM] Repackaged OTA update 9.4.5.26 US/WW versions
Make sure you do not update past 9.4.5.26 if you want to use NVFlash!
10- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader? (This should be fixed since Aug 7)
Bonus Warning: ASUS has noted that using their bootloader unlocker will void your warranty and all OTA updates for your device will cease. However, without this unlocking, you will not be able to run custom ROMs nor will you be able to use NVFlash to make your device brick-proof.
[Device is unlocked][Video Added] Bootloader Unlock Tool Released [25.7.2012]
If you are still within your store's "grace period", you may want to try this out to verify if your device will ever be able to run non-ASUS android systems. There's no way of knowing at this moment if the bootloader unlocker will work on your device without actually trying to unlock it. If it does not work, it might be due to their service being unavailable, your serial number might not yet be in their database of devices for the unlock to succeed, your device serial number internally might not match your external serial number (on the sticker), or the problem might be something else entirely. Many of those whose bootloader would not unlock did not receive OTAs either so this shares the "issue which has yet to be identified" from point 9.
If you can give your tab a :good: to all of these points, then you have a good device! Congratulations! :highfive:
Maybe check out these threads next:
[INDEX]-[Updated -25 July 2012]-ASUS INFINITY TF700 - INDEX THREAD-DEVELOPMENT-PART#1
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]
1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
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Yep, mines a keeper.
Build quality is acceptable .. (I own an ipad also) ...I'm going to say 80% the build quality of the ipad. It does OTA and manual updates just fine. Headphone jack works. Has slight click if you press the screen by the speaker ...but only noticable because I read here that it clicks if you press by the speaker . Speed, temps, light bleed, battery life ....all as expected ...not perfect but perfectly acceptable. I am enjoying the tablet, and have no major complaints. I can only assume it will get better with JB when it comes out.
The ipad is more polished, faster, easier to use ....but not by a huge margin. And I make allowance for the immaturity of android tablets and the OS compared to ipad and iOS. I think the trade off is worth it for the additional control... and eventual rooting of the device.
Price ....hmmmm... perhaps a bit high compared to the ipad.... about $75 less would have been nice ....but it's basically a toy for me so I can't complain too much. And part of the whole thing is I wanted a tablet....and I wanted to support the Android market so it would stand a better chance at competing with the ipad... because honestly I think Andriod is the future of tablets ...not iOS.
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
Still.... I enjoy the TF700T, and think it's a good product ....although perhaps should be offered at a bit more of a discount compared to the iPad ....for now.
I have no regrets.
JohnnyB
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1.Yes
2.Yes
3.Yes
4.didn't try that yet
5.yes
6.yes
7.I don't care
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Just want to mention these numbers are apt to change due to new things becoming evident as community use increases.
dataway said:
I'd say the single disappointment is ....I bought the tablet to watch motorcycle racing videos from MotoGP.com, which I pay about $120 US a year to be a member ..... guess what...the tablet will not play the archived videos from this site ....it will stream live video fine, it will play all other "current" content fine...but will not play the archived videos ...... my iPad plays them just fine. I'm in contact with MotoGP.com trying to solve the problem ...but it's not a new problem ....its across the Asus tablet line.
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This thread is really just supposed to be a developing checklist for people to verify their tablets since it seems that not all problems are experienced by all users and some problems are more extreme than others. That being noted, how did you try to access said videos? Is there a specific program or application you are required to use? Did you try other such programs from the Play store? Since you are paying for your access, I doubt it would be something that a non-member would be able to assist much.
Yes it is a keeper
Plays HD content flawlessly
The GPS is sooper dup on the road
The WIFI sensitivity is exceptional
Can be viewed outside easily
I really like the hotspot tethering performance also
Pretty much a sweet package
I use it a lot around the house to help me with DIY project info...
1- Does your device have good build quality?
10/10, clicks a a little but IDGTF.
2- Does the GPS work?
Yes.jfif
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Never tested, never will.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
>2012
>bluetooth headphones
ISHYGDDT
5- Does the headphone jack work?
Yes, makes beeping rarely when I start videos.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Yes, like butter. I still want jelly Bean though.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
6 hours in balanced, yes. Never go to power saving because lag.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
No, bootloader unlocked.
9- (Only if this is important to you and then only if you are willing to forego any ASUS warranty) Can you unlock the bootloader?
Already did
The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?
I haven't tested the HDMI yet. And other then the inability to OTA or unlock everything is working perfectly on the latest build
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funtapaz said:
The only issue I've really had with my device after upgrading to .26 is occasional lock-ups. One lock-up concerned me enough to feel a need to return the device. The screen filled with vertical (if holding landscape) white bars. Has anyone else experienced such issues?
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My friend found one at Best Buy here in NJ. I told him to return it (not exchange) because of the amount of light bleed alone. He was not able to update it, and it just kept crashing on him which made it almost impossible to use. He's going to try hard reset it again to see if any of that helps.
1- Does your device have good build quality?
Mine is perfect.
2- Does the GPS work?
GPS so far works great without using the AGPS to assist.
3- Does mini-HDMI work?
Have a cable from my Prime, both worked flawlessly as does my Bionic.
4- Can you watch video/youtube/netflix/etc while using a bluetooth headset?
Funny thing it does drop from about 20 Mbps to about 3Mbps down, but that won't change no matter how far from the router. The upload is 4Mbps on both no matter how far from the router. It's not the dual antenna that's the problem, it's that they both use one controller chip for the two.
5- Does the headphone jack work?
No problems on mine.
6- Does your device feel quick to respond? If not, are you on firmware version .26?
Was definitely laggy on .21, on .26 MUCH better especially in performance mode. I'm excited for JB.
7- Is your battery life ~9 hours in power-saving mode or ~6 hours in balanced mode?
I charged about 4 hrs till green/fully charged. Funny thing is you can't overcharge these new batteries now and days. They are set to auto stop charging once full (that's the benefit of them now) So I have never "overcharged" because it's not possible. That being said I did a full charge, and am working on the first full depletion to recharge. I'm at 62% and that's 3 days later lol. I have been using it light/moderate the past few days. At least 3.5 hrs of Netflix streaming, setting it up, and not turning it off overnight. We'll see but so far so good and Ifinitely (like that ) better than my Prime.
8- Can you receive OTA updates?
Not OTA, manual worked just fine
Good list, thanks. Mine has passed all of these so far but the headphone test. I forgot that one. I guess I'll give it a shot tonight.
" "Fully charge the battery up to eight hours for the first-time use. The battery reaches its maximum capacity after one full charging and discharging cycle.""
It says" upto 8 hours" It doesn't mean you NEED the full 8 hours. Once you go green and are 100% fully charged, the charger shuts down on its own so not to overheat the battery. The "upto 8 hours" is for folks charging their device via USB on their PC - - which can take up to 8 hours to getting that full charge.
I just got mine yesterday, and while I haven't had time to test either HDMI or full battery cycle (though it's doing pretty well so far) all else is wonderful. Great screen, OTA update to build 26, great wifi and gps, headphones work fine. Sound out of headphones and BT headset is actually great. I do have a millisecond lag with BT audio and watching streaming video, but I could actually live with it, it's not that bad.
This one is definitely a keeper.
I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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androidxen said:
I have a quick question while I'm checking my tablet, which arrived yesterday... my screen is uniform across the edge, no creaking or inconsistencies, but the entire surface is raised, or at least isn't flush like my previous Prime. Is that normal? Anyone have a completely flushed screen on their 700? Thanks.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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So I guess the screen is higher due to the hardware improvements from the Prime. Good to know, just wanted to be cautious.
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My Gorilla glass has about a quarter inch beveled edge going all the way around
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Same here - more like 1/16th inch, maybe?
Mine looks perfect, but if I press a bit harder on the screen (you won't do this with normal usage) I get a hissing noice which sound like air is escaping from between the screen. At that moment I can see deformations on the screen. I have read other people do have the same issue, but wondering if this is normal (so all TF700 have it?) or if I should exchange. Any advice?
I have one really big scratch on the dockingstation. Going back to the store tomorrow to get another one.
Added xRevilatioNx's and neo1738's clarification regarding initial battery charge and the green charging light turning off.
Yeah, I agree with you that the new batteries can't be overcharged in the literal sense. It was merely to emphasize the fact that a "full charge" is necessary to receive optimum life out of the device's battery. We don't really know what type of charge existed on the device prior to our receipt, so it's best (or in a worse case scenario) just to charge it for the 8 hours regardless of the status of the light. Does it make a difference if it's 8 hours or until the green light turns off? Probably not. But for the Android neophytes just getting their hands on a tablet for the 1st or 2nd time, I think that my explanation is still applicable and satisfactory to provide a perspective easy to understand and beneficial to the consumer. Thanks for the detailed clarification though.
Received my champagne gold today and doesn't seem to be any issues at all. No light bleed, WiFi and bluetooth are perfect, and no I/O issues (updated as soon as I turned on the device). Seeing as the champagne golds seem to have come latter in the production cycle, it seems they are improving their processes slowly but surely.
Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
The sound of the speaker is average! It's a hardware thing, no software update can change it.. If you want some boost, you will need to root it and install a sound mod like Viper4android...
No wifi signal dropouts here. Whaatttttt??? The screen on this beast is a real BEAUT!
The camera is pretty good and can manage decent shots.
gino_76ph said:
Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
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Never had wifi problem, speaker is easily fixed and they addressed it in 4.4.2, my screen is perfect, and my camera is perfect.
This nice man made a volume boost mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788
and this nice man made a camera mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
gino_76ph said:
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
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Rooting and stuff is not technical at all, it requires little to no knowledge. Just read the guide threads..
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
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Hi,
You can unroot and go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.
As for viruses and bugs, it's not the root that can cause that but more what you will do after rooting your device... There is no bug, at least no more than a non rooted device, with only rooting your device. It's only if you modify some files system, flash something not stable, or the wrong file and so on. If you install a "crappy" or cracked app with root access (and allow it without know what it does), yes maybe you can encounter some bugs or viruses. It's on the user side...
I have not rooted my phone and it's perfect, i have no complaints whatsoever. I keep refraining myself from rooting tho because of gravitybox, my geeky side keeps telling me to root but i don't right now because i don't need it, but i will definitely do it after a year or something (knowing myself).
gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
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When using Fastboot and ADB its commands so there is no chance of bugs or viruses.modding is what XDA is all about.
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I could maybe try rooting my device one day. But until then i'm happy with normal updates.
I have been reading about the "fiasco" of 4.4.1 and i just think that Google sometimes don't listen to end-user complaints too quickly and they would rather sit back and wait till the complaints are a mountain high (with the same issues attached to it) until they act.
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Hi,
Here: [PHOTOS] Post Your Pictures and Videos...
ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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I have been hearing somewhat conflicting comments that the 4.4.2 camera still has more space for improvements. It can sometimes bring oversaturatedness, greyness, haziness and still weak in the low-light department.
Another issue i heard is the battery seems still not convincingly and dramatically improved from the last time. 3G & 4G signal seems also not perfect. What i mean is if the phone comes from a 3G to a 4G area the phone either reboots itself, turns itself off or would take time to "reconfigure" its software to know that its in a strong 4G signal. Am i making sense?
Is there any truth to this?
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Is there any truth to this?
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Not with respect to my phone.
Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
5Hi,
In my opinion stop the "I heard someone" or "some are saying" and jump the train...
4.4.2 is way better than 4.4/4.4.1 (and yes I ran stock rom in the past ).
About Android usage in battery stats is already discussed here, I mean in this Q&A forum, I have not it, like almost 90% (or more) users, it's on the user side (whatever some other users tends to think). It can happen on 4.4/4.4.1 too... but since a minority of users are still on this version and the updates have been quick, nobody still speak about it.
Wi-Fi crashes, phone turn OFF by itself (on full stock?) it's also a very large minority on stock (I would say never), it could be due to the user too, no?
High battery drain in idle-> mostly user side (rogue app for example). Ans so on...
Don't mixe what your read about some problems between stock rom and custom rom/kernel/mods...., in my opinion (and I'm not alone) all you read is nothing, biased feedback due to some users who don't know how use their phones, install xx and xy apps and after that they are complaining about battery life, bugs and so on
Battery heat (or CPU?), what is heat for you or for the guy who said that? I any case there is thermal throttle to prevent any dammage and you are running a quadcore CPU (with a max CPU freq at 2,26 GHz ) enclosed without thermal cooling so in certain circumstances expect some heat...
If you are not still convinced, hum... don't do anything
Test and see by yourself, sometimes it will be better than read something here and there... . I'm not saying that you are "reported" is false but nonestly it's mostly ******, at least like I said it's not about 4.4.2 itself but user side.
That being said you seem a user easily influenced by some things read or heard here and there, maybe you'll be more influenced by the replies in your thread
gino_76ph said:
Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
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I have not experienced any of these issues when I was on stock for a week. I suggest you go buy the nexus 5 and return it if you don't like it then try the G2 if you really want amazing battery life. But I assure you, once you experience Nexus, you'll go back to Nexus.
Well, for one thing i had a Nexus 4 and i had to return/sell it because of so many issues. And those same issues have again cropped-up in the stock Nexus 5 4.4/4.4.1/4.4.2. Sounds familiar?
Yes it's true it "could be" a minority who have the same issues but its STILL a minority and its STILL the same issues. It's either the users fault or the phone itself. Yes it could be malicious/battery-draining apps or a ROM that has some bugs, etc. But in the past 6 months i have not heard of a "minority" of HTC One or Galaxy S3/S4 users that have the same issues. Have you? It does tell you something about how the phone was made and how Google pushes its updates.
I know and i'm well aware that the only thing to do is to actually try one. But what if if i try one, got the same problems, do a factory reset, still same problems, have to return/sell the thing and so on. Its such a hassle. That is why i am looking for answers and reviews/comments here. And i truly appreciate all your insights. I really do.
Call me fuzzy or overly-careful. I'm not looking for a "perfect" Google Nexus phone. I just want a phone (and Android phone as such) that works.
Again, as i said i'm not overly worried about the camera because a phone camera can & will never replace a proper one.My other concern is the 4.4.2 battery life. My Nexus 4's battery life was near atrocious. Could not tell you how long (or short) it's battery life is thats is why i got rid of it. But if a number of issues come up with the same battery life issue and battery getting warmer then am i to worry?
My typical day is get up at 6AM, remove the charger on my phone (if it was charged overnight), turn it off or turn the wifi off whilst i have my shower, get on the bus and the train, turn on my mobile data then checking the morning news/weather/notes/Twitter, get on to my work and keep my mobile data (and everything else like wifi, bluetooth, NFC...you know) turned off, turn on my data again for my 30-minute lunch and turn it off when back to my afternoon shift, going back home i listen to some music (a typical journey lasts around 45 minutes) whilst at the same time checking out some tech news on Appy Geek, when i'm at home i turn off my mobile data and connect to my home wifi (kept On till until i wake up again the next morning) whilst in-between supper & shower & bed i check Twiiter again, Instagram, couple of Youtube videos, email, playing a game which would last maybe 30-60 minutes max and that's it. I sleep around 11PM and wake up again around 6AM.
My questions are:
1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
The area where i live, where i travel and my work place hasn't got a strong 4G signal. I have no problems with my home broadband/wifi as i typically have a very fast and stable connection. So...
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Thanks peeps.
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1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
Based on how you use your phone, not really. Unless there's a hardware defect.
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
For me, no. I once tried one and it didn't help at all. But there's no harm in trying.
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
A few weeks ago I did some heavy gaming for an hour and the phone was really warm, but I still got >5hrs SoT at the end of the day before charging again.
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
Yes the battery life is somewhat improved; but what I experienced was that it improves when I stay in the same ROM for some days, and I charge it overnight when the battery is less than 5%.
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
In my opinion (and experience), yes.
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Here's a thread you can analyze: Nexus 5 Battery Results
Hi, I am thinking to flash lineage OS to my oppo R7 plus and I was wondering how good is the battery line in lineage OS as consider to color OS. Battery life is the most imp thing for me in my cell phone. Any body using lineage OS work oppo R7 plus - can your answer me with some figures. I wil like to know some numbers. Like if I am getting 24 hours in color OS, how many hours I will get in lineage OS?
Thanks for any answers.
Hey there i'm on the latest LineageOS build , your mileage may vary but from 100% to 0% in my experience is in 1 day and multiple hours , Screen on time around 7-8 hours. Good luck !
Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
Thanks
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Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
how did you managed to flash lineage os ? please help me
There is tutorial here on the forums. I have not yet flashed it though.
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Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
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If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
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If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
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I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
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I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
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This blows my mind. What didn't I do right? Didn't I sacrifice enough chickens?
TBH the Bluetooth problem (at least) is well documented, as well as being a massive dealbreaker.
Funnily enough though I don't have an audio stutter problem. But I don't use physically attached headphones.
Are you open to a crash-off, in which we both install the same LOS version and (if necessary) start adding apps until we either see my problems or we don't?
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
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This helped me too, thanks. I put an inline meter and it was only drawing 1.x amps but without the meter I can see "rapidly charging" on the lockscreen. Pity there is no battery icon change for Oppo's in LineageOS (14.1).
One more thing, if you're still active... which country are you in? I first put 15.1 on my R7Plusf and right off the bat WiFi didn't work.. even after reboot etc.
I flashed 14.1 and every single thing works perfectly so far!
I'm new to the OP6 coming over from the 5t. I was on the beta 12version OS on the5t which worked perfect for me.
5.1.9 is the only version I have had with the 6
But I have noticed:
- WiFi is hard to connect at times..have to reboot phone from time to time
- scrolling is slow and uneasy not smooth at all
- cameras auto focus is very slow at times, also I have to hit the shutter button several times before it will take photo
- from time to time won't recognize my fingerprint...
I don't know if it's just me or others are having the same issues with 5.1.9?? I hope they fix these issues with the next update...
No issues here. Try reflash the ROM through update settings
No issues so far
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Some of your observations I've read before. Try the 5.1.9 thread.
Except the camera sucks, from focus to take good pictures all the rest i also don`t have problems...
I don't really use the camera on any device I've had, so can't really comment on those issues.
However, over all being new to OnePlus myself first one I got the 6 I have to say the software on this device sucks. It's buggy, it's outdated and overall a complete and utter mess.
Wifi issue that I see and many others complaining about is that it constantly wants to stick with a weaker signal rather than handing off to the stronger one. I know this is an easy fix in an update by raising the threshold as on one of my Asus devices we had this problem and people were complaining and they rolled out a fix in a couple of weeks.
I also along with many others have networking issues where the device does not want to connect after being on Wifi or in an area where there is no signal at all. Upon exiting such area the phone just refuses to reconnect to the network and you have to use the airplane mode on/off in order to get it to reconnect. A few times, I've had to remove the sims completely to reconnect.
A few times, the phone has just frozen for a few seconds, no matter what you hit it doesn't do anything and in a few occasions the phone goes completely black like it is off and then comes back.
Sometimes you have to enter the password in a few times for it to accept, but I've also had the same issue with the fingerprint sensor.
Their dialer is complete and utter rubbish. Call drops, call waiting disconnects all callers, good luck with conference calling, they've disabled call recording. And because of the convoluted way they've done their settings 3rd party apps can't operate fully because they can't access the settings and return error messages.
IMO this phone is all hype with no substance behind it. If they don't fix their issues and quick this company will go the way of others, burning hot and heavy in the beginning with people singing praises how great it is and a year from now won't be a blip on anyone's radar.
Mate just reflash or return it. No one else has these issues. So either you are exaggerating or your ROM/device is faulty.
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Mate just reflash or return it. No one else has these issues. So either you are exaggerating or your ROM/device is faulty.
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How can you even say that? Their own forum is filled with complaints with networking issues, wifi issues, dropped calls, fingerprint and password not working. OnePlus even acknowledged the networking issues and said there was a fix in a past update. So you're saying that there is no issues even though OnePlus admitted there was?
Noone? Really, every single other person that has the OP6 doesn't have any issue at all? Clearly others do have the same issues, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about them.
None of those problems.....so maybe something you install/done is affecting the phone.
Im a minimalist, so i did install basic things....everything works flawless....except the stupid camera...
Use the fastboot roms in here and reflash the entire phone. Something is definitely wrong with your device. Let's just hope it's a software issue.
Thanks for the input from all.... I think I might know the issue.... I'm rooted and I can't remember if I did a wipe dalvik/cache at the end... I'll reload it later today...
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I also along with many others have networking issues where the device does not want to connect after being on Wifi or in an area where there is no signal at all. Upon exiting such area the phone just refuses to reconnect to the network and you have to use the airplane mode on/off in order to get it to reconnect. A few times, I've had to remove the sims completely to reconnect.
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I have had this issue before but never really had it often enough to consider it an issue until it was explained like this. I thought it was just my network (metro pcs) so I never really gave it much thought. Usually, I reboot and thought that was the only way to get it working again. Now I will try airplane mode. Thanks for this info!
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How can you even say that? Their own forum is filled with complaints with networking issues, wifi issues, dropped calls, fingerprint and password not working. OnePlus even acknowledged the networking issues and said there was a fix in a past update. So you're saying that there is no issues even though OnePlus admitted there was?
Noone? Really, every single other person that has the OP6 doesn't have any issue at all? Clearly others do have the same issues, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about them.
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I wouldn't use the one plus forum as a reference. The vast majority of issues are from Indian members and most issues aren't issues at all. They tend to have VERY high battery expectations, refuse to keep their apps updated, and seem to lack the general knowledge of how to search for solutions before starting redundant threads.
That's not a knock on the Indian population as a whole. Just what I've noticed over the last couple months there.
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I wouldn't use the one plus forum as a reference. The vast majority of issues are from Indian members and most issues aren't issues at all. They tend to have VERY high battery expectations, refuse to keep their apps updated, and seem to lack the general knowledge of how to search for solutions before starting redundant threads.
That's not a knock on the Indian population as a whole. Just what I've noticed over the last couple months there.
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I'm well aware of what their forum is like, this isn't my first rodeo. I'm educated enough to realize that a lot of the complaints on that board are coming from a certain segment and 70% of it is utter and complete nonsense. But if you're going to throw out the baby with the bath water then you miss some real and crucial things. And just because a board is littered with ridiculous questions and a bunch of fanboys doesn't mean there aren't some problems and "no one" has issues. In particular when OnePlus already has admitted to some issues. One should also not assume anyone with a problem doesn't know how to update their device, or has tons of apps installed, and overall doesn't know how to use a device. You know what they say about assumptions.
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How can you even say that? Their own forum is filled with complaints with networking issues, wifi issues, dropped calls, fingerprint and password not working. OnePlus even acknowledged the networking issues and said there was a fix in a past update. So you're saying that there is no issues even though OnePlus admitted there was?
Noone? Really, every single other person that has the OP6 doesn't have any issue at all? Clearly others do have the same issues, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about them.
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I think you shouldn't take the 'no one else' part too literally. I guess you - and other who apparently reported the same issues - are unfortunately enough part of a small group with a lot of issues with their device. But most of us aren't experiencing these problems and just have a great device with great software.
Hopefully you can work out what the solution is.
Hi guys, I have a quick question for you.
I am considering buying a new phone but don't want to spend too much. I have noticed how the Mix 2s has singnificantly dropped in price lately.
With regard to the camera in particular, how does it compare to let's say the s10e? If I install a custom rom/camera will it still be below the s10e one? Basically, is the hardware of the two too different for the mix 2s to reach s10e level via software optimization? Thanks to those who will help me out
That depends, the camera is good on this phone, no doubt about it. I don't know how it compares with the S10e, but I think if I had the chance I would not buy the Mi Mix 2s again. My main problem, the selfiecam that's below the phone. I don't take selfies very often, but when I do it's annoying to flip the phone every time.
Regarding the software: I've been using a lot of custom roms, but ended up with the Global Beta MIUI-rom. It's stable, receives weekly updates, and gives me the best battery life. No more custom roms for me.
Good luck with your choice!
Hey, you ask about the camera, and i can say when i first got my phone , the camera blew me away, amazing shots, good quality, the selfie cam takes nice shots in good light, video quality improved alot with 1080p 60fps and 4k 60fps, for its price recommended, the ceramic back is just gorgeous, about custom roms, we got google camera from good devs, and also a port of MIUI CAM for AOSP ROMS, with working 60fps recording.
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Hi guys, I have a quick question for you.
I am considering buying a new phone but don't want to spend too much. I have noticed how the Mix 2s has singnificantly dropped in price lately.
With regard to the camera in particular, how does it compare to let's say the s10e? If I install a custom rom/camera will it still be below the s10e one? Basically, is the hardware of the two too different for the mix 2s to reach s10e level via software optimization? Thanks to those who will help me out
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Thank you both guys! Yes the price has gotten very competitive lately. I like its design but I understand the selfie camera position is quite inconvenient. Not sure I will get this phone yet, there are some things about it that I don`t really like (lack of headphone jack above all) but it`s nice to see most users are liking the phone despite some minor downsides. Thanks
DON'T BUY IT!
It has good camera, but since january there are so many problems with gsm and connectivity that You should not treat this device as phone Right now I needed to get another phone and move one of sim card there, because mimix2s usually is out of range. My operator sends me sms each time I was out of range and somebody tried to call me, in last months I had hundreds of them being in center of city with "full range". Many callers complains about voice quality, often You are disconnected on call. When signal is not strong You will be offline, phone gets got trying to connect, sometimes restart helps.
I told You in january there was a change that brake connectivity, last ROM without problem is 10.0.7.0. User reports that some AOSP ROMS are good too, but I can't confirm that on my side, signal is just weaker on them. I have now one of cards in samsung A40 and this phone just works, has full signal when this struggle to get anything, bluetooth don't disconnects, and nobody complains about voice quality, data connections works. My device is not broken, many other reports this issue right after ROM update, this depends on country, region, maybe some specific GSM operator settings. Xiaomi needed to make change because of SAR: https://piunikaweb.com/2019/04/01/x...port-weak-no-signal-and-other-network-issues/
Problem is still not fixed: http://c.mi.com/thread-1896725-3-1.html
I also don't experience any of these problems you're describing
i was thinking to buy MI mix2s too. Is it a good phone? I surveyed all other phones with similar specs (except camera) and found this. Probably the cheapest sd 845 phone in my country for now. I dont care about camera quality but i am a serious multitasker and gamer. Is the battery life good? Someone guide me please and very appreciated. Thanks :3
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DON'T BUY IT!
It has good camera, but since january there are so many problems with gsm and connectivity that You should not treat this device as phone Right now I needed to get another phone and move one of sim card there, because mimix2s usually is out of range. My operator sends me sms each time I was out of range and somebody tried to call me, in last months I had hundreds of them being in center of city with "full range". Many callers complains about voice quality, often You are disconnected on call. When signal is not strong You will be offline, phone gets got trying to connect, sometimes restart helps.
I told You in january there was a change that brake connectivity, last ROM without problem is 10.0.7.0. User reports that some AOSP ROMS are good too, but I can't confirm that on my side, signal is just weaker on them. I have now one of cards in samsung A40 and this phone just works, has full signal when this struggle to get anything, bluetooth don't disconnects, and nobody complains about voice quality, data connections works. My device is not broken, many other reports this issue right after ROM update, this depends on country, region, maybe some specific GSM operator settings. Xiaomi needed to make change because of SAR: https://piunikaweb.com/2019/04/01/x...port-weak-no-signal-and-other-network-issues/
Problem is still not fixed: http://c.mi.com/thread-1896725-3-1.html
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I'm having problems with this phone also, I'm in Canada, and I get constant network drops, 10-20sec before it reconnects back to any network.
Entering big buildings like shopping mall, or for example Home Depot (Obi) I get no signal anymore.
Love the phone for it's value, but it's starting to be useless when I need it to work.
What would you recommend to switch to, mi 9 or mix 3 maybe ?