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i cant post any link here as im a new user but you can go to youtube and search "Note Edge Flip Wallet Qi Wireless Charging (DIY)" to check it out
i cracked open the original samsung qi wireless back and attach the qi receiver to the flip wallet back, anyone is interested in more details please let me know
Guide?
I would love if you could go over the steps on how you integrated the receiver into the flip cover. In the video I see the flip wallet clock still works since it's tied to the magnet in the cover, not the back cover contacts (got creative with the Gear Circle to test this). Does NFC work correctly?
Also curious of NFC works.
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I have a wireless charging back for my note 3, can I use that?
bignibb said:
I have a wireless charging back for my note 3, can I use that?
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Very interested in this answer. Would be a good dolar savings to reuse the innards and would be a great combo with the leather case (like the video.).
Steps and pic if possible?
sorry guys I've been busy past few days couldn't reply earlier. for your questions:
1. NFC works perfectly
2. Require the original note edge qi receiver (from the original case as there is no 3rd party qi receiver out there yet) as you can see below the qi receiver connectors need to match the phone's terminals (i.e. the L shaped below the sd card slot and the one above the battery
and regarding steps, unfortunately i did not take video or pix while cracking open the original case and attaching to the flip wallet but i''ll try my best to explain here
1. this is how the original case looks like (pic1)
2. use a knife to start cracking the 4 corners then sides of the plastic piece in the middle which has the qi receiver attached underneath and this is how it looks after detaching it from the case (of course the qi receiver should be there too but mine is already glued to my flip wallet now) (pic2)
3. you should fine the qi receiver is glued to the plastic piece (the left one in pic2) but can be removed easily (with care also!) by hand
4. on the flip wallet you should see a chip attached to it (pic3) please make sure that is removed before attaching the qi receiver on it as one of the qi connectors is at the same spot so without removing the chip on the flip wallet you can't attach your phone properly to the wallet
5. after removing the chip, place the qi receiver on the flip wallet at the same positions as where the connectors should be touching the phone's terminals (pic4)
6. DONE!
NFC works, wireless charging works and edge panel responds to the flip wallet cover! do it at your own risk but it is pretty straight forward!
ENJOY!
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and regarding steps, unfortunately i did not take video or pix while cracking open the original case and attaching to the flip wallet but i''ll try my best to explain here
1. this is how the original case looks like (pic1)
2. use a knife to start cracking the 4 corners then sides of the plastic piece in the middle which has the qi receiver attached underneath and this is how it looks after detaching it from the case (of course the qi receiver should be there too but mine is already glued to my flip wallet now) (pic2)
3. you should fine the qi receiver is glued to the plastic piece (the left one in pic2) but can be removed easily (with care also!) by hand
4. on the flip wallet you should see a chip attached to it (pic3) please make sure that is removed before attaching the qi receiver on it as one of the qi connectors is at the same spot so without removing the chip on the flip wallet you can't attach your phone properly to the wallet
5. after removing the chip, place the qi receiver on the flip wallet at the same positions as where the connectors should be touching the phone's terminals (pic4)
6. DONE!
NFC works, wireless charging works and edge panel responds to the flip wallet cover! do it at your own risk but it is pretty straight forward!
ENJOY!
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Are you using the original qi back plate for the note 4?
krazieboy said:
Are you using the original qi back plate for the note 4?
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No that is original Qi back for Edge. Note 4 terminals are in different place. You can get that from Korea. Or eBay for $37+$19 shipping.
JoganJani said:
No that is original Qi back for Edge. Note 4 terminals are in different place. You can get that from Korea. Or eBay for $37+$19 shipping.
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that is correct, note 4 has different terminals than note edge. and for your information, i have checked with 2 companies which manufactures 3rd party qi receivers for samsung phones both said they do not have plan yet on making one for edge (guess from profit perspective edge is a limited production phone) and that is why i went ahead to DIY one using the original note edge qi case
JoganJani said:
No that is original Qi back for Edge. Note 4 terminals are in different place. You can get that from Korea. Or eBay for $37+$19 shipping.
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OOooooo I wasn't aware the edge had qi charging plate!. thanks!
Did you use any special glue to attach the qi receiver to the case?
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kirkla79 said:
Did you use any special glue to attach the qi receiver to the case?
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From the pictures it looks like he used a type of frabic tape.
I'm sure he will chime in with that he did.
I thought about doing this from the start , I don't like the thickness of the charging backs. So I was going to rip the guts out and put in on the OEM back.
But that's alot of money just to rip it apart.
I had the thin small pad for my Note 3 and it only cost about $10. So I think I'll wait on the note edge buntil they get the thin pads aslo.
My qi case came in and I did the mod for the wallet case.
It works perfectly! Thanks OP!
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Just to be clear this mod was done from an Edge Qi back cover to a waller case back cover. Im guessing to avoid the extra thickness added by the Qi backing.
Can this be done to the original backing that comes with the note edge so that I can have Qi with the simple backing and no extra thickness
tospace2006 said:
Just to be clear this mod was done from an Edge Qi back cover to a waller case back cover. Im guessing to avoid the extra thickness added by the Qi backing.
Can this be done to the original backing that comes with the note edge so that I can have Qi with the simple backing and no extra thickness
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Yep that works, I have done that for one of my friends who complained the qi cover is too thick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEuXId2WV9w
This could be a quick and easy way to do this whole mod but I think I want to keep the ability to use the usb port in case I need quickcharge or use the port for mass storage.
Also does anyone know what amperage the OEM case allow. Cause I saw that Samsung official Qi chargers are 2amp but most only deliver 1amp from what i know.
On bottom L sharp pins; pin of inside is + 5v and pin of out side is ground. you can mod samsung s5 wireless charger receiver to install. (pin of wireless charger receiver s5 is opposite compare to note edge). so i trip off plastic cover of receiver and pull up pcb sidedown to made compatible pins .
Cons: due to wireless receiver is 1.0 compatible=used ic bq5101xx = max 1000ma.
note edge can handle 1700 ma so receiver get hot;
Solutions: used usb charger under 1000ma or connect 2 wireless receiver in parallel way. (1 up and 1 down; coils are center and symmetric).
pdandroid said:
On bottom L sharp pins; pin of inside is + 5v and pin of out side is ground. you can mod samsung s5 wireless charger receiver to install. (pin of wireless charger receiver s5 is opposite compare to note edge). so i trip off plastic cover of receiver and pull up pcb sidedown to made compatible pins .
Cons: due to wireless receiver is 1.0 compatible=used ic bq5101xx = max 1000ma.
note edge can handle 1700 ma so receiver get hot;
Solutions: used usb charger under 1000ma or connect 2 wireless receiver in parallel way. (1 up and 1 down; coils are center and symmetric).
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Maybe some pics? would be helpful
Hello,
I was just wondering if there was a seperate Qi coil/ Qi Reciever that could connect to the Dock port on our Xperia Z3 Devices on sale?
You can't add any aftermarket coils to a "sealed" phone with non-removable back part. Only thing you can do is buy a case with it built-in, and there's only one such option, which you might or might not like:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
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You can't add any aftermarket coils to a "sealed" phone with non-removable back part. Only thing you can do is buy a case with it built-in, and there's only one such option, which you might or might not like:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
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I'm going to have to disagree, you definitely can, They've invented it for MicroUSB: ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item3f3f329a3f ) and as you can see it only uses 2 Pins out of the 5 pin connection, So Making a Dock ported Qi Reciever is definitely possible, It would be helpful because instead of wasting £60+ I could just make my own with a regular flipcase by dremeling out a inner square on the plastic place so the Qi Reciever would slot in
What I meant is that you can't insert the coil into phone itself, like you can easily do on Galaxy S5 or certain models of LG G3 regardless of the type of case you might or might not use. You can certainly attach all kind of crap on the outside of ANY phone, you can do that even with Apple devices. And if you think you can easily embed the Qi coil into existing flip case and make it look as good and be as reliable and long-lasting as Sony's own Qi flip case - well, good luck
I've been looking for the same. I've thought about making my own, but I need a low profile male recepticle for the charging port.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cel...EP-CN910IBUSTA
Does anyone who know or own the Samsung Note 4 with the Wireless Charging Back Cover (see link above) know which cases (especially wallet/folio style cases) fill fit with the phone and this wireless back cover as I understand it fits abit thicker then the stock cover?
Thanks
artofwar said:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cel...EP-CN910IBUSTA
Does anyone who know or own the Samsung Note 4 with the Wireless Charging Back Cover (see link above) know which cases (especially wallet/folio style cases) fill fit with the phone and this wireless back cover as I understand it fits abit thicker then the stock cover?
Thanks
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I was faced with the problem as you. I ordered the official Samsung wireless charging back, but it would not fit in my Seidio case. I returned the Samsung back and ordered a bare charging coil that will fit under the standard back. No problem with charging or any other functions and it fits in my Seidio case.
Mike
WHich charging coil do you recommend? WOuld it charge at the same rate as the Samsung version? Will I also loose NFC functionality if I did it this way?
mmarquis said:
I was faced with the problem as you. I ordered the official Samsung wireless charging back, but it would not fit in my Seidio case. I returned the Samsung back and ordered a bare charging coil that will fit under the standard back. No problem with charging or any other functions and it fits in my Seidio case.
Mike
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S View case look nice and work normaly with wireless charging
artofwar said:
WHich charging coil do you recommend? WOuld it charge at the same rate as the Samsung version? Will I also loose NFC functionality if I did it this way?
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This is the one that I'm using:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R3WK2LU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Not sure about the charging rate compared to Samsung. It is Qi standard so I would guess there is little difference. It claims 600mA. It is NOT a quick charge, more like an overnight charge. I have not tested the NFC part but the answered questions say that it is OK.
I have the same problem with my spigen case, now I got a hold of the s charger back. I'm really torn now, as I love the little stand the spigen comes with, but the official samsung back on the s charger pad wide seems to charge in double quick time.
I see the suggested workarounds and might consider them, but still nobody knows of an actual case which fits the note 4 with the wireless back?
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I have the same problem with my spigen case, now I got a hold of the s charger back. I'm really torn now, as I love the little stand the spigen comes with, but the official samsung back on the s charger pad wide seems to charge in double quick time.
I see the suggested workarounds and might consider them, but still nobody knows of an actual case which fits the note 4 with the wireless back?
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There is a huge thread in this subforum with a dozen of pages referencing cases that fit the charging back (yes they exist) and various workarounds. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...se-note-4-samsung-qi-charging-t2958395/page13
I just moved the coil from the Samsung charging back into the regular back, and it's no thicker than it was without the coil, and so any case could continue to fit - whether it will charge through the case is another matter.
any with a 2-3w charge output? 600a would take forever.
StevePritchard said:
I just moved the coil from the Samsung charging back into the regular back, and it's no thicker than it was without the coil, and so any case could continue to fit - whether it will charge through the case is another matter.
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Moving the coil to the stock back is really the only way to go. It charges fine and the NFC works.
I went for month trying cases that fit that bulge and even the ones that "fit" threatened to pop off at any moment.
Here is a guide to moving the coil:
(HOW-TO) Move receiver coil from OEM Wireless back to stock cover. (LOTS OF PICS)
-Paul
There don't seem to be any OEM Qi backs left., which is what I wanted. I got an aftermarket one, which is as thin as the stock non-wireless back, but that 1) doesn't fit all that well; there's always a gap at one corner or other, depending on which end I start with when putting it on, and 2) is at least moderately durable.
The one I have is starting to split, 3 months in. It charges fine (800mA at 5VDC, which is better than my Note 3 with OEM charging back)
So... if you are using a wireless charging back, which one are you using, and how do you like it?
BTW, I've been using a number of these wireless charging docks ($10 on amazon) and they're great if you want a spot you can just plonk your phone down and have it charging.
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is the back I purchased.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB89ACG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use it with this charger. I read a lot of reviews that the wireless charging is very slow and someone even said it was more like a toy... For me, the wireless charger easily charges my phone as fast as a 1 amp charger. You do have to have a minimum of a 1 amp wall adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Cha...90870&sr=1-11&keywords=wireless++fast+charger
EDIT: I forgot to mention, I use a rubberized case with my phone, so it is rather thick and have no issues using the charger with it.
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
I bought two different Qi receivers (and used the original back), and I regret it. The first one died after a month or two, and the second one heated up the phone while charging and ruined the battery.
So I broke down and bought Samsung's wireless charging back, and it has been working perfectly.
where i can find original oem samsung back QI ?
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Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I also use this back, (sold under the h-ber brand name on amazon) and it works fine. Of course the back does fit a little tight, and sometimes, you have to put it on the bottom (near USB port) first, or the clips don't clip.
I have phone in a incipio case which is two layer TPU and polycarbonate and pretty thick, but it charges fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inci...rd_wg=FFUej&psc=1&refRID=S732EGM8V4C7ZNFQBR6C
I have used a samsung fast charging qi dock, and a pleson fast charging dock, which both work fine, but will only charge at normal qi speeds due to lack of qi fast charge support on the note 4.
I get the original one for $60 in my country
d4rkkn16ht said:
I get the original one for $60 in my country
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BO in my country ...
i'm not able to find it on internet to. It's just fake or aftermarket
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I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
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What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
bagery77 said:
What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
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I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
dave457 said:
I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I just used all purpose glue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bostik-Al...hash=item257277c46d:m:mFfuep7JS04lusjdXPKR7fA
Samsung wireless charging cover on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-Charging-Cover-Galaxy/dp/B00OP5SAAI
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I used double sided tape when I did mine - not quite as permanent as glue, just in case it moved before the glue set.
Got this charger for £12.99 on Amazon:
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Feels cheap and looks cheap but it works and does the job well enough. It's foldable too, so you can use it either horizontal or vertical.
Worth it, if you need to buy a cheap one to leave at the office.
Would be great if wireless charger can work even with a metal piece on the back of casing for magnetic car phone holder
speed8081 said:
Would be great if wireless charger can work even with a metal piece on the back of casing for magnetic car phone holder
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There are magnetic holders that claim to work without blocking the wireless charger. They use a metal piece shaped like an upside down "U" instead of a square one. Given all the warnings against mixing credit cards and metal on cases and what not with wireless charging, I'd be weary of trying it out myself on my own phone, but they do exist. Just search for wireless charging compatible magnetic mount, I'm sure some will turn out.
Could be that I'm missing something (perhaps even a crucial factor), but why couldn't you use a wireless charger at the same time you have a metal plate in your case? It can't be harmful to the phone right?
I have a strong enough carkit so I can use a relatively small circular piece of metal in my slim fit case for the Note 9, works a charm. I've tested the location in the case, so I can use this in my car and still be able to put it down on a wireless charger so it charges without a problem. Okay, so when I put my phone on the charger pad a bit to far down or up, it doesn't charge, but that's just a matter of trying which position is best and this will become a non-issue the more you use it (since you know exactly how to put it on the charging pad).
Please enlighten me whether or not it could be harmful in any way to the phone because I don't want to risk a $1250 phone for the convenience of charging wirelessly. But I haven't ran into trouble this way just yet. Been doing this also with my Galaxy S8 for over a year btw, it still works like new.
Btw, @OP, can you share a link to the charger?
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Could be that I'm missing something (perhaps even a crucial factor), but why couldn't you use a wireless charger at the same time you have a metal plate in your case? It can't be harmful to the phone right?
I have a strong enough carkit so I can use a relatively small circular piece of metal in my slim fit case for the Note 9, works a charm. I've tested the location in the case, so I can use this in my car and still be able to put it down on a wireless charger so it charges without a problem. Okay, so when I put my phone on the charger pad a bit to far down or up, it doesn't charge, but that's just a matter of trying which position is best and this will become a non-issue the more you use it (since you know exactly how to put it on the charging pad).
Please enlighten me whether or not it could be harmful in any way to the phone because I don't want to risk a $1250 phone for the convenience of charging wirelessly. But I haven't ran into trouble this way just yet. Been doing this also with my Galaxy S8 for over a year btw, it still works like new.
Btw, @OP, can you share a link to the charger?
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I put a link to charger on the video description.
I just bought this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5KCQQ4/
Fast charges a little slower than directly plugging the Samsung charger into the phone (as expected).
The hinge is a tight friction fit, so the angle is adjusted wherever you like.