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Having seen some super creative members do some amazing stuff to make one-off accessories I thought we could start a thread to share ideas on making a magnetic Qi car dock for the N4. Too bad the Palm Touchstone isn't comparable because you can get them cheap to disassemble and work to mod. I am thinking of doing so with a Nexus Orb or whatever LG calls it when it is released. These other pad type chargers would need magnets incorporated. Then there is the power supply to figure out.
If there is an existing option, please share. If you have a plan, help us brainstorm it and share it.
N4 shipped today. Can't wait
lpasq said:
Having seen some super creative members do some amazing stuff to make one-off accessories I thought we could start a thread to share ideas on making a magnetic Qi car dock for the N4. Too bad the Palm Touchstone isn't comparable because you can get them cheap to disassemble and work to mod. I am thinking of doing so with a Nexus Orb or whatever LG calls it when it is released. These other pad type chargers would need magnets incorporated. Then there is the power supply to figure out.
If there is an existing option, please share. If you have a plan, help us brainstorm it and share it.
N4 shipped today. Can't wait
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Yeah, its what i thought when they annouced the orb thing. I would love a charger that is like the orb, that i can just chuck my phone onto, no hassle, and the magnets just stick too it, and it charges.
Can't wait for this!
The roads I usually drive are a little bumpy, and having a SRA doesn't help with that, so I don't think I'd be comfortable putting my phone's fate in the hands of a couple of magnets.
Here is something I did a few years back with a Palm Pre & their Touchstone charger. http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...-mounting-charger-car-solution-its-alive.html
If the Orb is light enough, I bet the same could be done.
Would it be feaseable to use velcro on the back of a mat and stick it somewhere? I'm not sure if you'd be able to get a cigarette lighter plug for an existing mat. Probably too simple, but I don't know about modding equipment lol.
The orb might work if its in a center console tray where the phone is more so leaning against the orb rather than having the orb fulling support the weight of the phone.
This goes counter what most people want and expect out of a car dock though, its more like a car stand
I'd be more inclined to do it this way as a DIY solution as well since we won't known till we try it out sturdy it will be... And sliding down onto a rubber center tray wont do much in terms of harm to the phone
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xAshxMoneyx said:
Would it be feaseable to use velcro on the back of a mat and stick it somewhere? I'm not sure if you'd be able to get a cigarette lighter plug for an existing mat. Probably too simple, but I don't know about modding equipment lol.
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There are some advantages to using a Touchstone (or Wireless Orb)-like solution. Mats usually don't have magnets, and you need to align the thing, besides in a car it will move. So that's done. Also you can tilt the thing and use it with a car dock mount. I have a pretty cool one . The suction cup is big and a special sticky material that you can actually stick to the dashboard and it's extremely secure. I have had another Arkon mount and they don't disappoint with quality. They offer a lot of different design selections for mounts and docks (mix and match). I found the dock I bought the least intrusive/ugly (including other brands). But the mount is really amazing.
So I plan to do what the OP is planning. Only that I suspect the Wireless Orb will be too expensive, and so far for me all the other available Qi chargers are still very expensive, even compared to Powermat. So I'm waiting to see what comes out and if the prices go down.
jnewman1991 said:
The roads I usually drive are a little bumpy, and having a SRA doesn't help with that, so I don't think I'd be comfortable putting my phone's fate in the hands of a couple of magnets.
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take a rubber band and tie it to the orb.
peestandingup said:
Here is something I did a few years back with a Palm Pre & their Touchstone charger. http://forums.webosnation.com/webos...-mounting-charger-car-solution-its-alive.html
If the Orb is light enough, I bet the same could be done.
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dude. while driving today i imagined using my spare brodit clip like you did to somehow mount an "orb". how did you adress the the power conversion to 12v or did the touchstone have a car power adapter?
xAshxMoneyx said:
Would it be feaseable to use velcro on the back of a mat and stick it somewhere? I'm not sure if you'd be able to get a cigarette lighter plug for an existing mat. Probably too simple, but I don't know about modding equipment lol.
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i have an lg mat coming to check it out. yeah the power supply question is one i hope someone with an electrical understanding can enlighten us on.
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There are some advantages to using a Touchstone (or Wireless Orb)-like solution. Mats usually don't have magnets, and you need to align the thing, besides in a car it will move. So that's done. Also you can tilt the thing and use it with a car dock mount. I have a pretty cool one . The suction cup is big and a special sticky material that you can actually stick to the dashboard and it's extremely secure. I have had another Arkon mount and they don't disappoint with quality. They offer a lot of different design selections for mounts and docks (mix and match). I found the dock I bought the least intrusive/ugly (including other brands). But the mount is really amazing.
So I plan to do what the OP is planning. Only that I suspect the Wireless Orb will be too expensive, and so far for me all the other available Qi chargers are still very expensive, even compared to Powermat. So I'm waiting to see what comes out and if the prices go down.
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akron and brodit too have been my go-to solutions when oem car docks don't cut it.
I think this is a great idea and would love to have a wireless charger for my car. I was thinking of finding a way of modding one of these
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Arkon Galaxy Nexus Dash mount
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to allow wireless charging and NFC to turn on Bluetooth and GPS, open GMusic and turning off WiFi. Don't know how easy it would be though.
Also, if you can only find mains powered chargers you could always check out something like this.
Lastly, multi-quote might be good for replying to multiple posts
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i have an lg mat coming to check it out. yeah the power supply question is one i hope someone with an electrical understanding can enlighten us on.
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EE here, well CE but its the same major at Purdue minus 2 classes. Okay when it comes to the wireless charging inductance Faradays law blah blah.. No one cares about that not even me really haha.
What you want to know is will it work in your car with a car charger, there is always a way whether it be running an inverter right off of the battery or from the Aux power source.
One factor is unknown right now, or at least I haven't looked enough.. What is the amperage draw of the charging station. Most phones charge off of 5V at 1 amp. Tablets usually 5V 2.1A and so on besides Sony Tablet S...
What I'm getting at is most chargers then charge at these voltages so if the orb needs 12V, 120V w.e. it may be anything other than 5V an inverter will have to be run, with the original AC adapter. Unless you can find a charger that charges at the correct voltages the original AC adapter plugged into the invertor will be your best idea for now.
Now onto the car mount idea, I also had one for my pre and my current touchstone modded Nexus ..
I am thinking of buying an energizer Qi station and finding a way to mount at an angle with some sort of lip on the bottom to stop a slide off, but may look terrible have to see and energizer station in person first..
I don't really care to mount my phone to use as a GPS or anything like that. That being said I will probably make some sort of holder thing to put in my cup holder to charge the phone when I am in my car. So now dumb question; the phone being in a vertical position should not affect the qi charging as long as it is close enough right? Once I have my phone and get around to it I will post pictures of it. I might be a few weeks though, got backordered.
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I don't really care to mount my phone to use as a GPS or anything like that. That being said I will probably make some sort of holder thing to put in my cup holder to charge the phone when I am in my car. So now dumb question; the phone being in a vertical position should not affect the qi charging as long as it is close enough right? Once I have my phone and get around to it I will post pictures of it. I might be a few weeks though, got backordered.
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from looking at this http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1 and already having a qi pad it seems the wireless charging contact area is rather centered.
lpasq said:
from looking at this http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1 and already having a qi pad it seems the wireless charging contact area is rather centered.
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So you have a Qi charger already? My question is how good is the magnetic pull with it? Also which one do you have? I want to try and mount the charger to my wall like I had my touchstone for my GN... But that had a good magnetic pull due to the touchstone and rare earth magnets
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So you have a Qi charger already? My question is how good is the magnetic pull with it? Also which one do you have? I want to try and mount the charger to my wall like I had my touchstone for my GN... But that had a good magnetic pull due to the touchstone and rare earth magnets
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i have these and neither have magnetic pull as you'd need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962570&page=31
lpasq said:
i have these and neither have magnetic pull as you'd need: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1962570&page=31
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Hey if you have the time could you take a ruler to your lg pad? I I want to know the dimensions to see if my idea could even work with it. Unfortunately I was not able to find those dimensions anywhere online :/
cchap07 said:
Hey if you have the time could you take a ruler to your lg pad? I I want to know the dimensions to see if my idea could even work with it. Unfortunately I was not able to find those dimensions anywhere online :/
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i will but i am away from it until later
Just ordered a Rearth case from here: http://goo.gl/V5ccu
Curious if anyone has this case (or a similar type that does not obstruct the top/bottom) and uses a microUSB desktop charger?
I know, I know, this phone supports wireless charging.... but some of us want to 1) charge as fast as possible and 2) have our phone upright on our desk while charging.
I heard that the N4 fits in the GSIII desktop chargers but I doubt they do with any type of case on. Anyone have recommendations for a "universal" or otherwise desktop charger that will work with this phone/case combo?
I have found one that looks to be promising, except it's Philips brand and is an alarm clock... but still, people are saying it's fairly universal and at least one of the reviews says they are using it with an otterbox case on their phone:
http://goo.gl/4g4jd
Any thoughts or recommendations for other ones that might work?
174 views and not a single comment? Am I the only one who still uses a desktop dock for their phone? lol.
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174 views and not a single comment? Am I the only one who still uses a desktop dock for their phone? lol.
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I'm afraid so... Although I'm pretty sure that you can find a universal Micro USB dock. I'd check Amazon or eBay.
I'm in the same boat; I'd love to get a desktop charger, but can't find anything. I picked up a cheap ($5) S3 dock on eBay, but the plug doesn't extend far enough to connect to my N4 and the base isn't wide enough to fully support it either. I came across this one, but it is fairly pricey and I'm not sure I want to be the first person to try it out...
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I'm in the same boat; I'd love to get a desktop charger, but can't find anything. I picked up a cheap ($5) S3 dock on eBay, but the plug doesn't extend far enough to connect to my N4 and the base isn't wide enough to fully support it either. I came across this one, but it is fairly pricey and I'm not sure I want to be the first person to try it out...
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I am in the same boat , I would like to get a couple of docks one for work desk and one for home desk, I have tried to buy that one but for some reason they don't ship from Australia to me in Canada, I have found it here in ebay http://www.ebay.ca/itm/KiDiGi-Unive...ries&hash=item337e43a54e&_uhb=1#ht_5273wt_775
I am concerned with stress on the USB port, other than that I would love to buy it, does anyone know if it can cause stress on the USB or or should it be OK ?
I'm tempted by the KiDiGi one. I have a similar one for my S2 and it's been working fine for me so far...unfortunately its for the S2 only and so won't work with anything else.
I have this model for my iphone and it worked very well with a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Konnet-KN-832...UTF8&qid=1355257145&sr=8-1&keywords=icrado+s3
The Galaxy S3, et. al. version should have the jack facing the correct way and work perfectly for the Nexus 4.
As an aside, I did have to modify my dock for my iphone with case, because the little jack holder they have on this dock is enveloped in a larger plastic covering to keep it attached to the dock. I simply sawed off the top portion that keeps it in place, and superglued.. it has been solid ever since, and the connector reaches all the way into my case to connect just fine.
i'm probably going to get one of these for my
delrazor said:
I have this model for my iphone and it worked very well with a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Konnet-KN-832...UTF8&qid=1355257145&sr=8-1&keywords=icrado+s3
The Galaxy S3, et. al. version should have the jack facing the correct way and work perfectly for the Nexus 4.
As an aside, I did have to modify my dock for my iphone with case, because the little jack holder they have on this dock is enveloped in a larger plastic covering to keep it attached to the dock. I simply sawed off the top portion that keeps it in place, and superglued.. it has been solid ever since, and the connector reaches all the way into my case to connect just fine.
i'm probably going to get one of these for my
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Awesome, that one looks pretty good.... I think I'll give it a whirl. I bit the bullet and ordered a Panasonic wireless charger from Japan for home/bedside use... but a dock like this should work great @ work. Thanks!
why not get a wireless charging pad and not worry about it?
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why not get a wireless charging pad and not worry about it?
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From my OP:
"I know, I know, this phone supports wireless charging.... but some of us want to 1) charge as fast as possible and 2) have our phone upright on our desk while charging."
That's why. It's not just about charging... I like to use my phone as a clock/info station during the day, and having it upright allows me to do that. Now if they'd just make a vertical magnetic charging pad.....
I use the phillips fidelio as351 and it fits my phone with it's multitude of cases and even my N7. also makes for a portable speaker systsem as well as it runs on battery or AC adapter. Lot of places have this dock on clearance.
Seidio also makes one that works with cases.
http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-desktop-charging-cradle-p/bd2-crdssx1.htm
The Seidio one looks cool...but the lack of a backing looks like its going to put a lot of pressure on the USB connector.
I was looking at wireless mats, but then if I decide to change my handset again next year I'll be back in the same position I am now.
Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
seanvree said:
Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
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I'm thinking of getting that case. What spigen case do you have?
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I'm thinking of getting that case. What spigen case do you have?
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Most TPU based cases work well like cruzerlite or diztronic work well
Anyone have a link to a genuine seller of the TPU cases?
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Anyone have a link to a genuine seller of the TPU cases?
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For tpu cases try Cruzerlite: http://www.cruzerlite.com/cases/samsung/galaxy-s-iv They come in a variety of styles and colors plus their TPU cases work with wireless charging backs. Hope this helps.
Still searching, cases don't fit or are extremely too tight and I'm afraid that it will hurt the phone longterm
Rocking the Roocase bumper which was a little tight but not insane and has finally adjusted, would like something high end while offering a little more protection
Does anyone know if the Spigen cases would work? They say TPU, so I'm wondering if they would fit?
http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-SGP-Pr...&qid=1374608648&sr=1-1&keywords=tpu+galaxy+S4
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Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
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I just received my wireless charging cover yesterday.
Ran into the same fit or in this case, not fit issue with my BodyGlove Nova cover. It appears that the wireless charging cover is 1 - 3 mm thicker than the original cover.
I called BodyGlove and they we rather adamant that they WOULD NOT EVER design a case for anything other than a device with the original cover. They will not design a case for a device with en extended battery or wireless cover.
I got on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the NFC cover is the same thickness as the original cover and that standard cases would work. Unfortunately, the NFC cover is not available in the US.
I got back on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the standard Case Plus (S 8878121) would work with the wireless cover. I went out to BestBuy and picked one of the Cover Plus'. Will report back how it works out.
I do think that I might be able to mill down the BodyGlove case internal surface enough so that it will fit the phone with the wireless charging cover. My neighbor has a precision mill that he uses for his home business. He makes specialize, custom parts (Plastic!) for the oil field industry. Will give that a chat and see how it works out.
What a pain in the a%&*#(@%(*&!
mmeyer4663 said:
I just received my wireless charging cover yesterday.
Ran into the same fit or in this case, not fit issue with my BodyGlove Nova cover. It appears that the wireless charging cover is 1 - 3 mm thicker than the original cover.
I called BodyGlove and they we rather adamant that they WOULD NOT EVER design a case for anything other than a device with the original cover. They will not design a case for a device with en extended battery or wireless cover.
I got on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the NFC cover is the same thickness as the original cover and that standard cases would work. Unfortunately, the NFC cover is not available in the US.
I got back on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the standard Case Plus (S 8878121) would work with the wireless cover. I went out to BestBuy and picked one of the Cover Plus'. Will report back how it works out.
I do think that I might be able to mill down the BodyGlove case internal surface enough so that it will fit the phone with the wireless charging cover. My neighbor has a precision mill that he uses for his home business. He makes specialize, custom parts (Plastic!) for the oil field industry. Will give that a chat and see how it works out.
What a pain in the a%&*#(@%(*&!
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The OEM Samsung cover will not work with charging back. There is already thread on this with many posts and pictures. etc. The Cruzerlite TPU cases works with my S4 and wireless charging back. 9 bucks at Amazon.
Save yourself some $$$ I have the OEM wireless back and this receiver pad. The receiver pad works very well and works with the normal back allowing for use with OEM cases.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5d3fda606b
If the Spigen Neo Hybrid is your thing, it fits with the wireless charging cover. It creates a slightly raised area on the back, but I actually prefer it. I wanted to get the aftermarket wireless receiver posted above, but there wasn't a consensus as to whether or not it was slower to charge. Although, so far it's taking the OEM base and cover around 3 1/2 hours from ~15% to fully charge the battery - that's not exactly great.
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Save yourself some $$$ I have the OEM wireless back and this receiver pad. The receiver pad works very well and works with the normal back allowing for use with OEM cases.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5d3fda606b
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Do you know if this will work with the Samsung Wireless Charging Pad?
There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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Wow, these are great points. I didn't think about the whole on/off thing. Crap.
Another question, what's the best wireless charging base? I'd prefer one that used a micro-USB for power as the Verizon pad does not.
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There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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Yeah I guess I am unusual in that I do not charge my phone by the bed or even in the bedroom. My lg charging pad is on my home office desk. I have noticed a little more heat from the receiver pad but nothing bad.
I also have the Samsung charging back which is great but it makes the phone too big and heavy. I use it if I am staying inside but replace the back if I am going out...or I used to until getting the receiver pad which allows a regular case.
I have the cruzerlite tpu case and it is fine for when I am using charging back. I also have the Roos bumper which works but I did not like the back being bare.
The easiest solution is the receiver pad which works with any Qi charging pad and allows for using regular cases all for $10. If you charge the phone by the bed at night, just plug in your USB charger. The value of wireless charging is when you are using the phone during day and do not want to plug in each time you lay the phone down or talk with a wire attached to your phone. My opinion.
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planoman said:
Yeah I guess I am unusual in that I do not charge my phone by the bed or even in the bedroom. My lg charging pad is on my home office desk. I have noticed a little more heat from the receiver pad but nothing bad.
I also have the Samsung charging back which is great but it makes the phone too big and heavy. I use it if I am staying inside but replace the back if I am going out...or I used to until getting the receiver pad which allows a regular case.
I have the cruzerlite tpu case and it is fine for when I am using charging back. I also have the Roos bumper which works but I did not like the back being bare.
The easiest solution is the receiver pad which works with any Qi charging pad and allows for using regular cases all for $10. If you charge the phone by the bed at night, just plug in your USB charger. The value of wireless charging is when you are using the phone during day and do not want to plug in each time you lay the phone down or talk with a wire attached to your phone. My opinion.
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This is a really good point. I noticed that my "excitement" of going with wireless charging was really more than what reality was. Is it really that inconvenient to plug the phone into a charger? No, it is not. The main thing would be when you are often using your phone such as during the day at work or at home. Using the phone with the cable plugged in is a hassle.
Honestly, I can go all day without charging my phone. I leave home around 6:30 am and the phone is anywhere from 50 to 25% when I go to bed around 10-11pm. Depends on how much I use it, and in reality, I don't use it too heavily. Weekends are a different monster where I have more time to play games or watch videos and often have to charge it. Having the wireless charging pad downstairs also is nice as I can put it on the table next to the sofa and watch TV while it is charging and pick it up when I want.
Is there a need to wireless charge at night? Absolutely not. If the 3rd party receiver allows you to use the cover you prefer (I prefer a S View type that is a case, not just a back cover) then having a charging pad around for convenience especially during the day is a good thing. No need to use wireless charging at night.
Have gave it some thought over the past day and now am considering a dock/speaker type stand that I used to have for my iphone. It was nice to use it as an alarm clock and listen to audio books while in bed. This will also effect my choice of case also, as the s view flip cover won't be ideal for that at all... oh well.
I can also confirm that the Neo-Hybrid Spigen case works with the Samsung wireless charging back.
However, if you are using the tetrax car mount solution with the Spigen Case.... you may want to take the case off prior to wireless charging as the magnet needed to hold up the phone to the mount will get EXTREMELY hot and not sure how that affected my wireless charging case ><;;;; however, it WILL still work even with that magnet bulge on if you really are too lazy to take it off... from what I can tell, not sure if that magnet really messed up my samsung wireless back... but the battery doesnt really charge if the screen is on... I will test again later.... I hate not having the screen on if the phone is charging ><
Then the question becomes why even get the wireless charging solution if you have to take the case off..... because I can =)
Update: Will be ordering a iOttie HLCRIO104 and fix the tetrax magnet to it that way I dont have to remove case every time for the magnet. Will respond with my fix
Hey guys and gals,
I am looking to purchase a Car Qi Charger. I have not yet found a thread for this, though there were options mentioned in the regular Qi Charger thread, but this one is specifically for the car.
I have found 2 which look promising but just want to know other peoples input. Plus want to know if they will hold with a case on the phone.
Itian: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M685JTG/
C1: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H1XU6A8/
Both of these look pretty good, have mixed reviews, but just want to know what you guys think would be best and if anyone actually used these in the past?
I know that there is also the AirDock, but I doubt it would hold the Note 4 all that well, so not bothering to include it.
I currently use this item in my car as a regular holder, so I wish there was one (other than the AirDock) which can utilize the ability to hold and charge the phone by mounting into the CD Slot of the car head unit: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004G1L52Q/
Please add to this list if anyone has better solutions.
I've been agonizing over this choice myself, but I'm even worse off than you- I've gotten hooked on having a magnetic mount (currently using the Bracketron Si earth elements mount), and I REALLY like the S-View cover, so what I really want is a car dock that does Qi charging AND holds the phone magnetically, with strong enough magnets to hold through the S-View flap! Unfortunately, it seems that at this point there aren't ANY magnetic Qi docks (apart from the Airdock, and I'm right on the same page as you there), let alone one that would work through the S-View flap! So basically if I want Qi I'm stuck either sacrificing the magnetic holding feature and going with arms, or I'll have to build my own custom dock. Haven't quite decided which route I'll go yet, but man do I wish there was a decent magnetic Qi dock!
Anyway, as for Qi docks that DO exist now, in my research I've found a couple that seem to really stand out and come up time and again as the go-to's for Qi in the car. Here's the best options I've seen so far:
The iOttie: http://www.iottie.com/Product/Detai...for Google Nexus 5 and Qi Enabled Smartphones
Amazon's got this one for $55 also: http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Wireless-Standard-Motorola-Smartphones/dp/B00IRHQZTI
Nokia CR-201: http://www.mobilefun.com/38310-nokia-qi-wireless-charging-nfc-car-holder-cr-201-Reviews.htm
bit more expensive, but has some nice features.
Then there's this:http://www.tylt.com/vu-car-wireless-charger/
Not available yet, but it looks like it may be a decent option.
I've read a lot of mixed reviews on the plethora of non-name brand Qi gear thats out there, some people say that they work just as well for cheaper prices and others say that they're total junk. I guess I'd say if you see one you really like then just make sure that you read reviews on it so you don't get stuck with something that doesn't work or worse.
As for a mount that uses the CD slot, I haven't seen any Qi docks that come with that option but many docks share similar or identical mounting solutions, so once you find a Qi dock that you like you could probably find a non-qi dock that mounts in the CD slot and then just replace the actual dock with the Qi one. Personally I don't think I'd trust the CD slot to hold up a phone this heavy, I'd be worried about damaging the CD player not to mention it'll be much less steady, but hey if that's what you like then good luck!
Thanks for the input
I will have to look into the Ottie one as it does look fairly decent. The Nokia one is way over priced and I cannot say I am a fan of it. The Tylt is nice, but I am sure it is going to be quite costly due to their original designs of their products.
The reason I want it as a CD mount is because I currently have one (minus the Qi of course) and it works just fine, hold the phone super good, without issues at all what so ever. Plus, no damage done to the head unit or CD Slot (not that I use CDs of course lol).
I just want something very low profile, but for it to do the job you know. The reason why I do not want anything mounted on the windshield is because I hate wires and I like for the phone to be close to me while I drive. I do not text and drive though! I plan to run the wire behind my head unit and bring out just enough to plug into the Qi holder. This will be a pain in the rear of course, but I am anal when it comes to wires lol. I have a radar, dash cam, and soon a Qi charger, all of which I want to make fairly invisible with regards to wires.
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I've been agonizing over this choice myself, but I'm even worse off than you- I've gotten hooked on having a magnetic mount (currently using the Bracketron Si earth elements mount), and I REALLY like the S-View cover, so what I really want is a car dock that does Qi charging AND holds the phone magnetically, with strong enough magnets to hold through the S-View flap! Unfortunately, it seems that at this point there aren't ANY magnetic Qi docks (apart from the Airdock, and I'm right on the same page as you there), let alone one that would work through the S-View flap! So basically if I want Qi I'm stuck either sacrificing the magnetic holding feature and going with arms, or I'll have to build my own custom dock. Haven't quite decided which route I'll go yet, but man do I wish there was a decent magnetic Qi dock!
Anyway, as for Qi docks that DO exist now, in my research I've found a couple that seem to really stand out and come up time and again as the go-to's for Qi in the car. Here's the best options I've seen so far:
The iOttie: http://www.iottie.com/Product/Detai...for Google Nexus 5 and Qi Enabled Smartphones
Amazon's got this one for $55 also: http://www.amazon.com/iOttie-Wireless-Standard-Motorola-Smartphones/dp/B00IRHQZTI
Nokia CR-201: http://www.mobilefun.com/38310-nokia-qi-wireless-charging-nfc-car-holder-cr-201-Reviews.htm
bit more expensive, but has some nice features.
Then there's this:http://www.tylt.com/vu-car-wireless-charger/
Not available yet, but it looks like it may be a decent option.
I've read a lot of mixed reviews on the plethora of non-name brand Qi gear thats out there, some people say that they work just as well for cheaper prices and others say that they're total junk. I guess I'd say if you see one you really like then just make sure that you read reviews on it so you don't get stuck with something that doesn't work or worse.
As for a mount that uses the CD slot, I haven't seen any Qi docks that come with that option but many docks share similar or identical mounting solutions, so once you find a Qi dock that you like you could probably find a non-qi dock that mounts in the CD slot and then just replace the actual dock with the Qi one. Personally I don't think I'd trust the CD slot to hold up a phone this heavy, I'd be worried about damaging the CD player not to mention it'll be much less steady, but hey if that's what you like then good luck!
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I found one on sale (non brand name though)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/QI-W...a-Lumia-920-820-Free-shipping/2041086689.html
and another
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...S3-S4-Note2-Nexus-Nokia-Lumia/1795791846.html
I use this one:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC0NBI6/
I used it for my S3, and it does fit a Note 4 with the Ringke Fusion case on it with a little room to spare. I haven't used it for Wireless Charging on my Note 4 yet because I'm still waiting for my wireless receiver to arrive, but it has worked perfectly on my S3 for the last 6 months.
It doesn't go in a CD slot, but it does offer both the suction cup and the air vent hooks.
elite-fusion said:
I will have to look into the Ottie one as it does look fairly decent. The Nokia one is way over priced and I cannot say I am a fan of it. The Tylt is nice, but I am sure it is going to be quite costly due to their original designs of their products.
The reason I want it as a CD mount is because I currently have one (minus the Qi of course) and it works just fine, hold the phone super good, without issues at all what so ever. Plus, no damage done to the head unit or CD Slot (not that I use CDs of course lol)..
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Keep in mind that none of the chargers that people listed here except for the Itian have the One Touch operation. Paradoxically that includes the iOttie charger (people who invented it). So to me they all seem ridiculously overpriced for the limited functionality they provide. I am using Itian, and so far pretty happy with it. If you really need some sort of specific mount (CD, Vent, or whatever), you may be able to take Itian head (it's detachable) and glue it to the mount that you like. I had to do that myself because by dash has rough texture and the only suction cup that would stick is iOttie gel cap. So I used a suction cup plus arm form a low end iOttie charger ($13.99 on sale) and Itian head ($27.99). Cheaper and more functional than name brands.
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Keep in mind that none of the chargers that people listed here except for the Itian have the One Touch operation. Paradoxically that includes the iOttie charger (people who invented it). So to me they all seem ridiculously overpriced for the limited functionality they provide. I am using Itian, and so far pretty happy with it. If you really need some sort of specific mount (CD, Vent, or whatever), you may be able to take Itian head (it's detachable) and glue it to the mount that you like. I had to do that myself because by dash has rough texture and the only suction cup that would stick is iOttie gel cap. So I used a suction cup plus arm form a low end iOttie charger ($13.99 on sale) and Itian head ($27.99). Cheaper and more functional than name brands.
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Thanks for the input
I actually ordered the C1 yesterday, but ordered it from AliExpress for $34 and should hopefully be here in about a week or so.
I will report back. I am wondering about purchasing the Itian though and seeing which one is actually better, but not sure yet.
I used AirDock with my LG G3. It should work with note4 also. Got nothing bad to say about that dock!
theairdock dot com
loonyone said:
I use this one:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC0NBI6/
I used it for my S3, and it does fit a Note 4 with the Ringke Fusion case on it with a little room to spare. I haven't used it for Wireless Charging on my Note 4 yet because I'm still waiting for my wireless receiver to arrive, but it has worked perfectly on my S3 for the last 6 months.
It doesn't go in a CD slot, but it does offer both the suction cup and the air vent hooks.
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Disregard my earlier suggestion. Now that I finally have a Qi Receiver sticker for my Note 4, I'm finding that this one doesn't charge because the receiver isn't centered in the phone. I did cut up my receiver and turn the coil as close to the center as possible (careful not to cut the actual wires!), but it still doesn't charge for more than 2 seconds before the charging indicator turns off on the phone.
I ordered this one as a replacement and it's working great:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F5XPCSC/
Caveat: I don't know if it would work with the receiver sticker still in it's original configuration... :/ If I had to guess, I'd say it would because I can slide my phone to either side a little bit and I don't lose connection.
I had it with my Note 3. With the Note 4, I upgraded the car charger to a QC 2.0 charger and my car charging need is solved. It charges way faster than the best Qi charger that I've tried.
elite-fusion said:
Hey guys and gals,
I am looking to purchase a Car Qi Charger. I have not yet found a thread for this, though there were options mentioned in the regular Qi Charger thread, but this one is specifically for the car.
I have found 2 which look promising but just want to know other peoples input. Plus want to know if they will hold with a case on the phone.
Itian: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M685JTG/
C1: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H1XU6A8/
Both of these look pretty good, have mixed reviews, but just want to know what you guys think would be best and if anyone actually used these in the past?
I know that there is also the AirDock, but I doubt it would hold the Note 4 all that well, so not bothering to include it.
I currently use this item in my car as a regular holder, so I wish there was one (other than the AirDock) which can utilize the ability to hold and charge the phone by mounting into the CD Slot of the car head unit: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004G1L52Q/
Please add to this list if anyone has better solutions.
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Have the air dock with the goose neck mount. It was garbage and then I saw that they have the magnetic stickers. I attach the magnetic sticker to the back of the case I have the tough armor case. Now it is absolutely amazing I can't imagine anything better anyone looking for charger
gingi999 said:
Have the air dock with the goose neck mount. It was garbage and then I saw that they have the magnetic stickers. I attach the magnetic sticker to the back of the case I have the tough armor case. Now it is absolutely amazing I can't imagine anything better anyone looking for charger
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Can someone with the AirDock comment on the strength of the magnet? I've been pretty interested in it, but the problem for me is that I really like the S-View case, so the magnet in the AirDock would need to be strong enough to hold through the S-View flap. Maybe someone could test how well it holds with a piece of cardboard or something between the AirDock and the phone? I've totally gotten addicted to having a magnetic dock, but I also love my S-View and I want wireless charging! I mean cmon, can't I have everything???
soul777toast said:
Can someone with the AirDock comment on the strength of the magnet? I've been pretty interested in it, but the problem for me is that I really like the S-View case, so the magnet in the AirDock would need to be strong enough to hold through the S-View flap. Maybe someone could test how well it holds with a piece of cardboard or something between the AirDock and the phone? I've totally gotten addicted to having a magnetic dock, but I also love my S-View and I want wireless charging! I mean cmon, can't I have everything???
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Just use these, its what I do and it works amazing
Right, I would assume I'd need to use the sticker but what I'm wondering is whether the AirDock will hold the phone with the S-View cover flipped around to the back. Basically the sticker would be on the back of the phone, then the S-View cover would be between the sticker and the AirDock. Are the magnets in the AirDock strong enough to hold the phone even with the cover between them and the sticker?
soul777toast said:
Can someone with the AirDock comment on the strength of the magnet? I've been pretty interested in it, but the problem for me is that I really like the S-View case, so the magnet in the AirDock would need to be strong enough to hold through the S-View flap. Maybe someone could test how well it holds with a piece of cardboard or something between the AirDock and the phone? I've totally gotten addicted to having a magnetic dock, but I also love my S-View and I want wireless charging! I mean cmon, can't I have everything???
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The nexus 5 has 4 metal discs in it specifically to make magnetic docks easy and allow for some self aligning.
The airdock with the nexus 5 works reasonable well. Not perfect, I do have to realign the phone more than once per day and end up grabbing or holding if if there's a big dip/bump/whatever.
However even with a thin case the n5 is unusable with the air dock. What's worse is that the airdock + note 4 is worse than the airdock + n5. I'm guessing the note 4 doesn't have the 4 discs.
I have an airdock and it works great with the Note 4.
i use an itian charger and it works great with double sided scotch tape for outdoor mounting. sticks vertically to the dash and holds the note 4 with two prongs.
While shopping for cars, I found out the camry and Avalon can come with wireless charging. I ended up with an Avalon Hybrid with tech pkg.
I'm not happy with this one - lost allways the connection - looking now one with three coils like my Itian desk charger, this one works perfect....
loonyone said:
I use this one:
http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC0NBI6/
I used it for my S3, and it does fit a Note 4 with the Ringke Fusion case on it with a little room to spare. I haven't used it for Wireless Charging on my Note 4 yet because I'm still waiting for my wireless receiver to arrive, but it has worked perfectly on my S3 for the last 6 months.
It doesn't go in a CD slot, but it does offer both the suction cup and the air vent hooks.
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I like the iOttie...
There don't seem to be any OEM Qi backs left., which is what I wanted. I got an aftermarket one, which is as thin as the stock non-wireless back, but that 1) doesn't fit all that well; there's always a gap at one corner or other, depending on which end I start with when putting it on, and 2) is at least moderately durable.
The one I have is starting to split, 3 months in. It charges fine (800mA at 5VDC, which is better than my Note 3 with OEM charging back)
So... if you are using a wireless charging back, which one are you using, and how do you like it?
BTW, I've been using a number of these wireless charging docks ($10 on amazon) and they're great if you want a spot you can just plonk your phone down and have it charging.
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is the back I purchased.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB89ACG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use it with this charger. I read a lot of reviews that the wireless charging is very slow and someone even said it was more like a toy... For me, the wireless charger easily charges my phone as fast as a 1 amp charger. You do have to have a minimum of a 1 amp wall adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Cha...90870&sr=1-11&keywords=wireless++fast+charger
EDIT: I forgot to mention, I use a rubberized case with my phone, so it is rather thick and have no issues using the charger with it.
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
I bought two different Qi receivers (and used the original back), and I regret it. The first one died after a month or two, and the second one heated up the phone while charging and ruined the battery.
So I broke down and bought Samsung's wireless charging back, and it has been working perfectly.
where i can find original oem samsung back QI ?
dhplap said:
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I also use this back, (sold under the h-ber brand name on amazon) and it works fine. Of course the back does fit a little tight, and sometimes, you have to put it on the bottom (near USB port) first, or the clips don't clip.
I have phone in a incipio case which is two layer TPU and polycarbonate and pretty thick, but it charges fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inci...rd_wg=FFUej&psc=1&refRID=S732EGM8V4C7ZNFQBR6C
I have used a samsung fast charging qi dock, and a pleson fast charging dock, which both work fine, but will only charge at normal qi speeds due to lack of qi fast charge support on the note 4.
I get the original one for $60 in my country
d4rkkn16ht said:
I get the original one for $60 in my country
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BO in my country ...
i'm not able to find it on internet to. It's just fake or aftermarket
dave457 said:
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
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What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
bagery77 said:
What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
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I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
dave457 said:
I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I just used all purpose glue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bostik-Al...hash=item257277c46d:m:mFfuep7JS04lusjdXPKR7fA
Samsung wireless charging cover on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-Charging-Cover-Galaxy/dp/B00OP5SAAI
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I used double sided tape when I did mine - not quite as permanent as glue, just in case it moved before the glue set.