There don't seem to be any OEM Qi backs left., which is what I wanted. I got an aftermarket one, which is as thin as the stock non-wireless back, but that 1) doesn't fit all that well; there's always a gap at one corner or other, depending on which end I start with when putting it on, and 2) is at least moderately durable.
The one I have is starting to split, 3 months in. It charges fine (800mA at 5VDC, which is better than my Note 3 with OEM charging back)
So... if you are using a wireless charging back, which one are you using, and how do you like it?
BTW, I've been using a number of these wireless charging docks ($10 on amazon) and they're great if you want a spot you can just plonk your phone down and have it charging.
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is the back I purchased.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB89ACG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use it with this charger. I read a lot of reviews that the wireless charging is very slow and someone even said it was more like a toy... For me, the wireless charger easily charges my phone as fast as a 1 amp charger. You do have to have a minimum of a 1 amp wall adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Cha...90870&sr=1-11&keywords=wireless++fast+charger
EDIT: I forgot to mention, I use a rubberized case with my phone, so it is rather thick and have no issues using the charger with it.
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
I bought two different Qi receivers (and used the original back), and I regret it. The first one died after a month or two, and the second one heated up the phone while charging and ruined the battery.
So I broke down and bought Samsung's wireless charging back, and it has been working perfectly.
where i can find original oem samsung back QI ?
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Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I also use this back, (sold under the h-ber brand name on amazon) and it works fine. Of course the back does fit a little tight, and sometimes, you have to put it on the bottom (near USB port) first, or the clips don't clip.
I have phone in a incipio case which is two layer TPU and polycarbonate and pretty thick, but it charges fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inci...rd_wg=FFUej&psc=1&refRID=S732EGM8V4C7ZNFQBR6C
I have used a samsung fast charging qi dock, and a pleson fast charging dock, which both work fine, but will only charge at normal qi speeds due to lack of qi fast charge support on the note 4.
I get the original one for $60 in my country
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I get the original one for $60 in my country
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BO in my country ...
i'm not able to find it on internet to. It's just fake or aftermarket
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I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
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What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
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What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
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I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
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I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I just used all purpose glue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bostik-Al...hash=item257277c46d:m:mFfuep7JS04lusjdXPKR7fA
Samsung wireless charging cover on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-Charging-Cover-Galaxy/dp/B00OP5SAAI
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I used double sided tape when I did mine - not quite as permanent as glue, just in case it moved before the glue set.
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Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
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Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
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I'm thinking of getting that case. What spigen case do you have?
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I'm thinking of getting that case. What spigen case do you have?
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Most TPU based cases work well like cruzerlite or diztronic work well
Anyone have a link to a genuine seller of the TPU cases?
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Anyone have a link to a genuine seller of the TPU cases?
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For tpu cases try Cruzerlite: http://www.cruzerlite.com/cases/samsung/galaxy-s-iv They come in a variety of styles and colors plus their TPU cases work with wireless charging backs. Hope this helps.
Still searching, cases don't fit or are extremely too tight and I'm afraid that it will hurt the phone longterm
Rocking the Roocase bumper which was a little tight but not insane and has finally adjusted, would like something high end while offering a little more protection
Does anyone know if the Spigen cases would work? They say TPU, so I'm wondering if they would fit?
http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-SGP-Pr...&qid=1374608648&sr=1-1&keywords=tpu+galaxy+S4
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Just got the Samsung wireless charging cover and it works great, however my beloved Spigen case no longer fits. Wondering if anyone has any good case recommendations that fit over the wireless charging back.
Thanks,
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I just received my wireless charging cover yesterday.
Ran into the same fit or in this case, not fit issue with my BodyGlove Nova cover. It appears that the wireless charging cover is 1 - 3 mm thicker than the original cover.
I called BodyGlove and they we rather adamant that they WOULD NOT EVER design a case for anything other than a device with the original cover. They will not design a case for a device with en extended battery or wireless cover.
I got on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the NFC cover is the same thickness as the original cover and that standard cases would work. Unfortunately, the NFC cover is not available in the US.
I got back on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the standard Case Plus (S 8878121) would work with the wireless cover. I went out to BestBuy and picked one of the Cover Plus'. Will report back how it works out.
I do think that I might be able to mill down the BodyGlove case internal surface enough so that it will fit the phone with the wireless charging cover. My neighbor has a precision mill that he uses for his home business. He makes specialize, custom parts (Plastic!) for the oil field industry. Will give that a chat and see how it works out.
What a pain in the a%&*#(@%(*&!
mmeyer4663 said:
I just received my wireless charging cover yesterday.
Ran into the same fit or in this case, not fit issue with my BodyGlove Nova cover. It appears that the wireless charging cover is 1 - 3 mm thicker than the original cover.
I called BodyGlove and they we rather adamant that they WOULD NOT EVER design a case for anything other than a device with the original cover. They will not design a case for a device with en extended battery or wireless cover.
I got on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the NFC cover is the same thickness as the original cover and that standard cases would work. Unfortunately, the NFC cover is not available in the US.
I got back on chat with Samsung and they indicated that the standard Case Plus (S 8878121) would work with the wireless cover. I went out to BestBuy and picked one of the Cover Plus'. Will report back how it works out.
I do think that I might be able to mill down the BodyGlove case internal surface enough so that it will fit the phone with the wireless charging cover. My neighbor has a precision mill that he uses for his home business. He makes specialize, custom parts (Plastic!) for the oil field industry. Will give that a chat and see how it works out.
What a pain in the a%&*#(@%(*&!
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The OEM Samsung cover will not work with charging back. There is already thread on this with many posts and pictures. etc. The Cruzerlite TPU cases works with my S4 and wireless charging back. 9 bucks at Amazon.
Save yourself some $$$ I have the OEM wireless back and this receiver pad. The receiver pad works very well and works with the normal back allowing for use with OEM cases.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5d3fda606b
If the Spigen Neo Hybrid is your thing, it fits with the wireless charging cover. It creates a slightly raised area on the back, but I actually prefer it. I wanted to get the aftermarket wireless receiver posted above, but there wasn't a consensus as to whether or not it was slower to charge. Although, so far it's taking the OEM base and cover around 3 1/2 hours from ~15% to fully charge the battery - that's not exactly great.
planoman said:
Save yourself some $$$ I have the OEM wireless back and this receiver pad. The receiver pad works very well and works with the normal back allowing for use with OEM cases.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item5d3fda606b
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Do you know if this will work with the Samsung Wireless Charging Pad?
There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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Wow, these are great points. I didn't think about the whole on/off thing. Crap.
Another question, what's the best wireless charging base? I'd prefer one that used a micro-USB for power as the Verizon pad does not.
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There is a big difference besides heat between the wireless receiver pads that fit inside the stock cover, versus the samsung wireless charging back.
From the three receivers I have tested all with varying heat levels and different issues with NFC is the charging behavior once it reaches 100%.
With the wireless back cover, once it reaches 100%, nothing happens. It stays off and keeps the charge at 100%. With the wireless receivers, once they reach 100%, the charging stops. Then a 2-5 minutes later, the phone turns on again as it reaches 99% and starts charging. This cycle continues on and on and from testing overnight most of the heat seems to be generated from this. Have to turn the volume down on the phone otherwise it is beeping everytime it recharges, 15-20 times an hour.
Not a lot of fun when using the wireless charging over night near the bed. Between the beeping and the screen turning on and lighting up the room anywhere from 2-4 hours after putting it down, it can start to drive you crazy. If you turn the volume down and have a full flip cover, then I guess that will allow you to sleep tight.
This does not happen with the samsung wireless charging back. The phone notifies you it is wireless charging when you place it on the pad the first time and that is it. When you wake up, it is at 100% and is cool to the touch every time.
I have tried 3 different recommended receivers from the other giant thread and besides dealing with positioning, heat, etc.. the biggest pain in the butt was this on/off on/off behavior. Total deal killer.
Cases that fit?
Forget the cruzerlite androidified. Total garbage. I tried it on stock cover and it was loose and flimsy, with the wireless charging cover it is still loose. The sides come off from the slightest touch. The cutouts for the buttons I think is what makes the case so weak and loose. The plastic along the cutouts catches on everything and is super flimsy.
I also tried the TUDIA slim melody and that actually fit nicely, much better than cruzerlite.
Ordered 2 other TPU type cases and will update with pics and vid of all of them hopefully early next week.
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Yeah I guess I am unusual in that I do not charge my phone by the bed or even in the bedroom. My lg charging pad is on my home office desk. I have noticed a little more heat from the receiver pad but nothing bad.
I also have the Samsung charging back which is great but it makes the phone too big and heavy. I use it if I am staying inside but replace the back if I am going out...or I used to until getting the receiver pad which allows a regular case.
I have the cruzerlite tpu case and it is fine for when I am using charging back. I also have the Roos bumper which works but I did not like the back being bare.
The easiest solution is the receiver pad which works with any Qi charging pad and allows for using regular cases all for $10. If you charge the phone by the bed at night, just plug in your USB charger. The value of wireless charging is when you are using the phone during day and do not want to plug in each time you lay the phone down or talk with a wire attached to your phone. My opinion.
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planoman said:
Yeah I guess I am unusual in that I do not charge my phone by the bed or even in the bedroom. My lg charging pad is on my home office desk. I have noticed a little more heat from the receiver pad but nothing bad.
I also have the Samsung charging back which is great but it makes the phone too big and heavy. I use it if I am staying inside but replace the back if I am going out...or I used to until getting the receiver pad which allows a regular case.
I have the cruzerlite tpu case and it is fine for when I am using charging back. I also have the Roos bumper which works but I did not like the back being bare.
The easiest solution is the receiver pad which works with any Qi charging pad and allows for using regular cases all for $10. If you charge the phone by the bed at night, just plug in your USB charger. The value of wireless charging is when you are using the phone during day and do not want to plug in each time you lay the phone down or talk with a wire attached to your phone. My opinion.
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This is a really good point. I noticed that my "excitement" of going with wireless charging was really more than what reality was. Is it really that inconvenient to plug the phone into a charger? No, it is not. The main thing would be when you are often using your phone such as during the day at work or at home. Using the phone with the cable plugged in is a hassle.
Honestly, I can go all day without charging my phone. I leave home around 6:30 am and the phone is anywhere from 50 to 25% when I go to bed around 10-11pm. Depends on how much I use it, and in reality, I don't use it too heavily. Weekends are a different monster where I have more time to play games or watch videos and often have to charge it. Having the wireless charging pad downstairs also is nice as I can put it on the table next to the sofa and watch TV while it is charging and pick it up when I want.
Is there a need to wireless charge at night? Absolutely not. If the 3rd party receiver allows you to use the cover you prefer (I prefer a S View type that is a case, not just a back cover) then having a charging pad around for convenience especially during the day is a good thing. No need to use wireless charging at night.
Have gave it some thought over the past day and now am considering a dock/speaker type stand that I used to have for my iphone. It was nice to use it as an alarm clock and listen to audio books while in bed. This will also effect my choice of case also, as the s view flip cover won't be ideal for that at all... oh well.
I can also confirm that the Neo-Hybrid Spigen case works with the Samsung wireless charging back.
However, if you are using the tetrax car mount solution with the Spigen Case.... you may want to take the case off prior to wireless charging as the magnet needed to hold up the phone to the mount will get EXTREMELY hot and not sure how that affected my wireless charging case ><;;;; however, it WILL still work even with that magnet bulge on if you really are too lazy to take it off... from what I can tell, not sure if that magnet really messed up my samsung wireless back... but the battery doesnt really charge if the screen is on... I will test again later.... I hate not having the screen on if the phone is charging ><
Then the question becomes why even get the wireless charging solution if you have to take the case off..... because I can =)
Update: Will be ordering a iOttie HLCRIO104 and fix the tetrax magnet to it that way I dont have to remove case every time for the magnet. Will respond with my fix
I ordered the Samsung back with the built in Qi charger. Before the vendor let me order it, they emailed me the following:
Please note that using this back cover will slightly change the dimension/ size of the phone and any case you may have on your Note 4 will no longer fit the device. Unfortunately, we do not have cases that are compatible with this battery charging back.
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Does any know if there are any case(s) available that actually fit with the OEM Samsung Qi charger back?
Flame Red said:
Does any know if there are any case(s) available that actually fit with the OEM Samsung Qi charger back?
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You might be able to stretch some TPU cases and force them on, but at this time there aren't any cases made to specifically fit with the OEM wireless charging back.
It took several months for the Galaxy S5 to get any cases specifically made for the wireless charging back, so I'm not anticipating one for the Note 4 in the near future. I'd love to see a manufacturer step up though. Diztronic did with the S5, but they have yet to even release a standard case for the Note 4.
I'm going with YooTech® 0.6mm Qi Standard Wireless Charger Charging Receiver Modul... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKHXI9E/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7oIzub15TDKJK . Mine just passed through customs in NY yesterday so should be able to report back soon.
rcobourn said:
I'm going with YooTech® 0.6mm Qi Standard Wireless Charger Charging Receiver Modul... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKHXI9E/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7oIzub15TDKJK . Mine just passed through customs in NY yesterday so should be able to report back soon.
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Interested in getting this too! Looks easy to install. Let us know how it goes. How long has it taken to ship? Thanks!
mklpickle said:
Interested in getting this too! Looks easy to install. Let us know how it goes. How long has it taken to ship? Thanks!
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Ordered October 31. Estimated arrival was 11/28 to 12/15, but I'm expecting it will be here Monday.
rcobourn said:
I'm going with YooTech® 0.6mm Qi Standard Wireless Charger Charging Receiver Modul... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OKHXI9E/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7oIzub15TDKJK . Mine just passed through customs in NY yesterday so should be able to report back soon.
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My friends have similar receiver stickers in their Samsung phones (Note 3, 2x S5s) and the sticker interferes with NFC, they were unable to use Android Beam or Softcard/Google Wallet until they removed the sticker (those features worked intermittently).
For this reason, I'll personally wait until a case that fits the official Samsung wireless charging cover comes out.
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My friends have similar receiver stickers in their Samsung phones (Note 3, 2x S5s) and the sticker interferes with NFC, they were unable to use Android Beam or Softcard/Google Wallet until they removed the sticker (those features worked intermittently).
For this reason, I'll personally wait until a case that fits the official Samsung wireless charging cover comes out.
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This particular sticker has NFC support in it supposedly. It also has connectors to support sleep function in sview cases. We'll see.
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This particular sticker has NFC support in it supposedly. It also has connectors to support sleep function in sview cases. We'll see.
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I wonder if it's thin enough to not bulge the back cover. Bulged covers look so ugly.
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This particular sticker has NFC support in it supposedly. It also has connectors to support sleep function in sview cases. We'll see.
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Amazon now has this sticker in stock with Prime shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I had it shipped overnight ($3.99 with Prime) and got it this morning. Here's what I found:
1. It's not 0.6mm, but 1.5mm thick (I measured it with a caliper). It bulges the battery cover in an ugly way. My Spigen case does not fit properly anymore.
2. It charges much more slowly than the official Samsung wireless charging back, which I also have (tested with a Tylt Vu desktop charger).
3. It makes battery swapping impossible as it has to be attached to the battery.
4. No "NFC support." Even though it has five pins, only two of them (second from top and the upper single one) are actually connected to the circuit, I checked with a multimeter. There is only a single coil/antenna, so there is definitely no "NFC support" of any kind, unlike the official Samsung cover which actually has two coils/antennas - one for charging and a second for NFC, since the original NFC antenna in the battery is blocked by the Qi antenna.
Sending it back, it's crap.
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I got the sticker this morning. Here's what I found:
1. It's not 0.6mm, but 1.5mm thick (I measured it with a caliper). It bulges the battery cover in an ugly way. My Spigen case does not fit properly anymore.
2. It charges much more slowly than the official Samsung wireless charging back, which I also have.
3. It makes battery swapping impossible as it has to be attached to the battery.
4. No "NFC support." Even though it has five pins, only two of them (second from top and the upper single one) are actually connected to the circuit, I checked with a multimeter. There is only a single coil/antenna, so there is definitely no "NFC support" of any kind, unlike the official Samsung cover which actually has two coils/antennas - one for charging and a second for NFC, since the original NFC antenna in the battery is blocked by the Qi antenna.
Sending it back, it's crap.
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I'm confused. Yesterday you posted you were going to wait for a case to fit the official charging back; today you are posting a review of a sticker that took over 2 weeks to arrive from China.
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I'm confused. Yesterday you posted you were going to wait for a case to fit the official charging back; today you are posting a review of a sticker that took over 2 weeks to arrive from China.
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Amazon now has it in stock with Prime shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OKHXI9E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I had it shipped overnight ($3.99 with Prime) and got it this morning. Updated my previous post to reflect this.
Mine arrived from China today. Seems like a different item than you got. Very little if any bulge. Case fits fine. NFC working fine. Phone gets surprisingly warm during charging. No problem connecting to my iAnker charging pads. Too soon to comment on charging speed. It doesn't exactly match the picture, doesn't have the indicated contacts for sview sleep function.
I'll get a picture and try to find my calipers in a bit.
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Mine arrived from China today. Seems like a different item than you got. Very little if any bulge. Case fits fine. NFC working fine. Phone gets surprisingly warm during charging. No problem connecting to my iAnker charging pads. Too soon to comment on charging speed. It doesn't exactly match the picture, doesn't have the indicated contacts for sview sleep function.
I'll get a picture and try to find my calipers in a bit.
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Mine looked identical to the Amazon picture.
bsweetness said:
You might be able to stretch some TPU cases and force them on, but at this time there aren't any cases made to specifically fit with the OEM wireless charging back.
It took several months for the Galaxy S5 to get any cases specifically made for the wireless charging back, so I'm not anticipating one for the Note 4 in the near future. I'd love to see a manufacturer step up though. Diztronic did with the S5, but they have yet to even release a standard case for the Note 4.
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I just received the OEM Samsung Qi back and indeed none of the case I tried seem to fit correctly just as I was forewarned. The Samsung OEM cover will fit, but the buttons are a bit off so it is too annoying to use. I'll just have to keep my eye out for a Qi compatible cover.
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Phone gets surprisingly warm during charging. .
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I think the relative positions of the receiver and the coil have something to do with heat issues. I also have a sticker from China. I noticed that charging the phone on Tylt Vu keeps the battery hot all night (this can't be good for longevity). But, if I set the phone upside down, it only heats up during actual charging. Itian charger also stops heating after the phone reaches 100.
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I just received the OEM Samsung Qi back and indeed none of the case I tried seem to fit correctly just as I was forewarned. The Samsung OEM cover will fit, but the buttons are a bit off so it is too annoying to use. I'll just have to keep my eye out for a Qi compatible cover.
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i have the same cover and the iBlason Armorbox case fits it perfectly with the cover mounted and also charges the phone fine. only problem is fingerprint reader is disabled with the cover on.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cel...EP-CN910IBUSTA
Does anyone who know or own the Samsung Note 4 with the Wireless Charging Back Cover (see link above) know which cases (especially wallet/folio style cases) fill fit with the phone and this wireless back cover as I understand it fits abit thicker then the stock cover?
Thanks
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cel...EP-CN910IBUSTA
Does anyone who know or own the Samsung Note 4 with the Wireless Charging Back Cover (see link above) know which cases (especially wallet/folio style cases) fill fit with the phone and this wireless back cover as I understand it fits abit thicker then the stock cover?
Thanks
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I was faced with the problem as you. I ordered the official Samsung wireless charging back, but it would not fit in my Seidio case. I returned the Samsung back and ordered a bare charging coil that will fit under the standard back. No problem with charging or any other functions and it fits in my Seidio case.
Mike
WHich charging coil do you recommend? WOuld it charge at the same rate as the Samsung version? Will I also loose NFC functionality if I did it this way?
mmarquis said:
I was faced with the problem as you. I ordered the official Samsung wireless charging back, but it would not fit in my Seidio case. I returned the Samsung back and ordered a bare charging coil that will fit under the standard back. No problem with charging or any other functions and it fits in my Seidio case.
Mike
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S View case look nice and work normaly with wireless charging
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WHich charging coil do you recommend? WOuld it charge at the same rate as the Samsung version? Will I also loose NFC functionality if I did it this way?
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This is the one that I'm using:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R3WK2LU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Not sure about the charging rate compared to Samsung. It is Qi standard so I would guess there is little difference. It claims 600mA. It is NOT a quick charge, more like an overnight charge. I have not tested the NFC part but the answered questions say that it is OK.
I have the same problem with my spigen case, now I got a hold of the s charger back. I'm really torn now, as I love the little stand the spigen comes with, but the official samsung back on the s charger pad wide seems to charge in double quick time.
I see the suggested workarounds and might consider them, but still nobody knows of an actual case which fits the note 4 with the wireless back?
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I have the same problem with my spigen case, now I got a hold of the s charger back. I'm really torn now, as I love the little stand the spigen comes with, but the official samsung back on the s charger pad wide seems to charge in double quick time.
I see the suggested workarounds and might consider them, but still nobody knows of an actual case which fits the note 4 with the wireless back?
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There is a huge thread in this subforum with a dozen of pages referencing cases that fit the charging back (yes they exist) and various workarounds. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...se-note-4-samsung-qi-charging-t2958395/page13
I just moved the coil from the Samsung charging back into the regular back, and it's no thicker than it was without the coil, and so any case could continue to fit - whether it will charge through the case is another matter.
any with a 2-3w charge output? 600a would take forever.
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I just moved the coil from the Samsung charging back into the regular back, and it's no thicker than it was without the coil, and so any case could continue to fit - whether it will charge through the case is another matter.
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Moving the coil to the stock back is really the only way to go. It charges fine and the NFC works.
I went for month trying cases that fit that bulge and even the ones that "fit" threatened to pop off at any moment.
Here is a guide to moving the coil:
(HOW-TO) Move receiver coil from OEM Wireless back to stock cover. (LOTS OF PICS)
-Paul
Got in the LG OEM wireless charging back today for the V10. It is of very nice quality and maybe only a hair thicker then stock back, very hard to tell. I don't think there will be any problem fitting into standard cases.
I got it for the everyday low price of $79.00 plus shipping from Amazon.
Only has LG and not V10 on the back corner.
I've add a few pictures showing it side by side with the stock back.
Very cool but also a bit pricey but it's LG oem so your gonna pay a bit more bought a cheap back cover from china with wireless charging that works well only paid about 15 bucks it has a leather back and the fit isn't quite as good as the stock back if you have the money I would definitely get the one you picked
I've used both Yootech and OEM. OEM charges quite a bit quicker and with less heat.
Thanks to the OP's for the information and photo's.
It isn't going to be much different in the quality of the charging, the only different is the built quality, the QI and PMA circuit (PCB) is in the phone, the back cover only contains the coil to complete the wireless charging part.
The current coil use for both the OEM and third party is a flexi coil, isn't the best, it's used because it's thin, I'm going to mod mine when I get the V10 within the week, and put a proper copper strand wire coil, has better detection, less heat and less transmission loss.
I have a few types of coils made especially for wireless charging, and will post back.
you can just buy the Qi receiver sticker for less than $10 and apply yourself.. why would anyone buy this for that price?
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I've used both Yootech and OEM. OEM charges quite a bit quicker and with less heat.
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That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
Where did you get the leather charging back from? Is it much thicker then the stock back? Please let me know how the NeWisdom sticker works out. Was going to order one also.
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That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
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You are correct to a certain point, both OEM and third party uses a flexi coil with a flexi magnet, the quality of these also determine the detection and aligment.
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Where did you get the leather charging back from? Is it much thicker then the stock back? Please let me know how the NeWisdom sticker works out. Was going to order one also.
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There on eBay just search connection station on eBay around $15 four different colors there slightly thicker than the stock back you can tell the difference by the volume buttons but not too bad a fit though
I just received my leather back with wireless charging from eBay today and it's not charging at all, is there some setting I need to turn on? I'm using an official Samsung qi charger btw.
timbawolf2k said:
I just received my leather back with wireless charging from eBay today and it's not charging at all, is there some setting I need to turn on? I'm using an official Samsung qi charger btw.
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There are no special settings that I'm aware of.
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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Just got in the NeWisdom but have not tried it yet.
Here is the OEM wireless charging cover on Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-wireless-charging-back-cover-for-lg-v10-cell-phones-black/4701800.p?id=1219803565680&skuId=4701800
Here is a video of the NeWisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXmehP0YRp8
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I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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I liked the wireless charging on my nexus 6 so when i bought the V10 i had to get wireless charging working on it so i bought the leather qi/nfc back for $15 of eBay (connection station) and it works very well with the Anker qi little disc charger i bought off Amazon but the leather back doesn't fit exactly as good as the stock back there's that little gap by the volume buttons you described but worth it to have the wireless charging working
Yeah, I'm going to give it a few weeks--hopefully the stock one will come out (a more reasonable price would be nice too), or someone will come up with a back cover that's a better fit. A guy can dream, right?
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I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .
Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).
All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.
I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
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Yeah, I'm going to give it a few weeks--hopefully the stock one will come out (a more reasonable price would be nice too), or someone will come up with a back cover that's a better fit. A guy can dream, right?
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Just wait for Best Buy to have it for $59.00 I'm sure this will be the retail price once it hit's the shelves.
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That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..
What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?
EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
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GSM and the fact that it literally takes twice as long with the Yootech. So a watch is what I'm using to determine the speed. It can and does make sense as it depends on the conduction of the materials used. If yootech uses different metal composition in the coil then it gives off more heat energy and doesn't charge as fast. Welcome to physics.
felloffthetruck said:
Just got in the NeWisdom but have not tried it yet.
Here is the OEM wireless charging cover on Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-wireless-charging-back-cover-for-lg-v10-cell-phones-black/4701800.p?id=1219803565680&skuId=4701800
Here is a video of the NeWisdom:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXmehP0YRp8
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That looks pretty nice. Check out my cart here, you can see all my goodies. I'm going with an off brand Spigen clone because I like to use my phone wile it's on the dock and this one looks more stable for that.
I am planning to go with the Yootech back cover. Hopefully it's wont cause the phone to get warm like some others seem to be saying...
For the OEM back, is it able to trickle charge at 100%? On my Nexus 5 at 100% it would just trickle charge and stay connected and cool while keeping the battery full. With my qi leather back I got, it hits 100 disconnects and then reconnects in an endless cycle randomly waking my phone up and keeping it warm. Sometimes my Tylt clone will just shut off completely from the cycling which isn't conducive to having a topped off phone for overnight charging.
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For the OEM back, is it able to trickle charge at 100%? On my Nexus 5 at 100% it would just trickle charge and stay connected and cool while keeping the battery full. With my qi leather back I got, it hits 100 disconnects and then reconnects in an endless cycle randomly waking my phone up and keeping it warm. Sometimes my Tylt clone will just shut off completely from the cycling which isn't conducive to having a topped off phone for overnight charging.
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Bought a little Anker qi disc charger of Amazon for $12 it claims that it regulates the heat and that it doesn't waste energy overcharging i just put my phone on it when i go to bed wake up and it's at 100% and my phones not hot the charger has 2 led's blue when it's charging and red and blue when the phones charged
Got this charger for £12.99 on Amazon:
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Feels cheap and looks cheap but it works and does the job well enough. It's foldable too, so you can use it either horizontal or vertical.
Worth it, if you need to buy a cheap one to leave at the office.
Would be great if wireless charger can work even with a metal piece on the back of casing for magnetic car phone holder
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Would be great if wireless charger can work even with a metal piece on the back of casing for magnetic car phone holder
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There are magnetic holders that claim to work without blocking the wireless charger. They use a metal piece shaped like an upside down "U" instead of a square one. Given all the warnings against mixing credit cards and metal on cases and what not with wireless charging, I'd be weary of trying it out myself on my own phone, but they do exist. Just search for wireless charging compatible magnetic mount, I'm sure some will turn out.
Could be that I'm missing something (perhaps even a crucial factor), but why couldn't you use a wireless charger at the same time you have a metal plate in your case? It can't be harmful to the phone right?
I have a strong enough carkit so I can use a relatively small circular piece of metal in my slim fit case for the Note 9, works a charm. I've tested the location in the case, so I can use this in my car and still be able to put it down on a wireless charger so it charges without a problem. Okay, so when I put my phone on the charger pad a bit to far down or up, it doesn't charge, but that's just a matter of trying which position is best and this will become a non-issue the more you use it (since you know exactly how to put it on the charging pad).
Please enlighten me whether or not it could be harmful in any way to the phone because I don't want to risk a $1250 phone for the convenience of charging wirelessly. But I haven't ran into trouble this way just yet. Been doing this also with my Galaxy S8 for over a year btw, it still works like new.
Btw, @OP, can you share a link to the charger?
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Could be that I'm missing something (perhaps even a crucial factor), but why couldn't you use a wireless charger at the same time you have a metal plate in your case? It can't be harmful to the phone right?
I have a strong enough carkit so I can use a relatively small circular piece of metal in my slim fit case for the Note 9, works a charm. I've tested the location in the case, so I can use this in my car and still be able to put it down on a wireless charger so it charges without a problem. Okay, so when I put my phone on the charger pad a bit to far down or up, it doesn't charge, but that's just a matter of trying which position is best and this will become a non-issue the more you use it (since you know exactly how to put it on the charging pad).
Please enlighten me whether or not it could be harmful in any way to the phone because I don't want to risk a $1250 phone for the convenience of charging wirelessly. But I haven't ran into trouble this way just yet. Been doing this also with my Galaxy S8 for over a year btw, it still works like new.
Btw, @OP, can you share a link to the charger?
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I put a link to charger on the video description.
I just bought this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5KCQQ4/
Fast charges a little slower than directly plugging the Samsung charger into the phone (as expected).
The hinge is a tight friction fit, so the angle is adjusted wherever you like.