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so I decided to charge my phone fully then leave it alone for 12 hours to see the standby drain, and This morning when I took a look and I was pretty disappointed. I attached pics, but as you can see, 12 hours of standby and 30 percent of my battery is gone. wtf? another time I did this a week ago with only 8 hours of standby, it drained 20 percent, which if scaled to 12 hours will become 30 percent. Why is the drain so high? Google play services is at the top of the list, and even with normal use it takes about 10 plus percent of my battery. my friends nexus 4, with basically the same apps I have (fb, messenger, Chrome, snapchat, bbm, etc) only had 10 percent after 12 hours. both our phones have the battery saving location enabled, radios on, but the only difference is that he wasn't connected to WiFi and I was. any suggestions? And yes I've looked around on the Internet at other people having the same problem and I still haven't found a fix
Lol sorry I forgot to add the pics in the first post
It's the WiFi. I had the really bad battery drain issue while connected to WiFi after the 4.4.2 update. I lost about 30% of charge after 4ish hours while connected. Currently I'm at 92% after 3 hours.
Try disconnecting from WiFi and redoing your test!
spitefulcheerio said:
It's the WiFi. I had the really bad battery drain issue while connected to WiFi after the 4.4.2 update. I lost about 30% of charge after 4ish hours while connected. Currently I'm at 92% after 3 hours.
Try disconnecting from WiFi and redoing your test!
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oh wow, that might be my problem then. thanks a lot, I'll redo the test and see what happens, thanks
I haven't used WiFi at all today, my phone had been unplugged since 6 am and at 1pm today it's down to 57 percent. I have hardly used my phone today and the play services are killing it.
I think WiFi was my issue actually, I have kept it off all day and after 2.5ish hours I'm down to 72 percent battery, with an hour of screen on and using Google search quite a bit. the screenshot has screen and Google search at the top, Google play services hasn't been up in double digits at all
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I think WiFi was my issue actually, I have kept it off all day and after 2.5ish hours I'm down to 72 percent battery, with an hour of screen on and using Google search quite a bit. the screenshot has screen and Google search at the top, Google play services hasn't been up in double digits at all
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On your first screenshot Google play services consumed 34% out of 30% of your total battery loss, which is approx. 10% of your full charge. Within 12 hours this would be a 0.85% battery drain per hour because of gp services.
I did the math again for the second screenshot and Googe Play services consumed 0.7% per hour.
Doesn't feel like a big difference for me. If the time was actually less than 2.5 hours the drain could be equal.
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On your first screenshot Google play services consumed 34% out of 30% of your total battery loss, which is approx. 10% of your full charge. Within 12 hours this would be a 0.85% battery drain per hour because of gp services.
I did the math again for the second screenshot and Googe Play services consumed 0.7% per hour.
Doesn't feel like a big difference for me. If the time was actually less than 2.5 hours the drain could be equal.
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oh, well this is disappointing. that's so stupid, what is Google play services even for? and why does it have like an hour of keep awake time??
NuckFuggets said:
oh, well this is disappointing. that's so stupid, what is Google play services even for? and why does it have like an hour of keep awake time??
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Go to Settings->Location->Google Location Reporting and set both to Off => no more battery drain
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Go to Settings->Location->Google Location Reporting and set both to Off => no more battery drain
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but then won't Google now not work anymore?
NuckFuggets said:
but then won't Google now not work anymore?
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Google Now will still function. It just will not show cards based on location. Also when you disable or semi disable location sometimes Search start's keeping you're phone awake trying to find some location information. If this happens just force stop Google search or reboot the phone.
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Google Now will still function. It just will not show cards based on location. Also when you disable or semi disable location sometimes Search start's keeping you're phone awake trying to find some location information. If this happens just force stop Google search or reboot the phone.
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oh ok, so like the weather card won't work? what about commute time to home? I'm guessing that won't work either right?
but anyway thanks for the help!
NuckFuggets said:
oh ok, so like the weather card won't work? what about commute time to home? I'm guessing that won't work either right?
but anyway thanks for the help!
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Weather will still work you just need to input you're location into the card settings manually. I used that for a while but it consistently wakes the phone to update it which annoyed me so I use Dashclock as it only updates when I turn the screen on.
Without Locations it will still grab information from the net about your searches, sports teams, stocks etc. It will no longer show you commutes, local picture spots etc.
I've kept Google Now on mainly so I can still set and receive reminders but don't want to tolerate any unnecessary wakes when the screen is off and have accomplished that now.
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Weather will still work you just need to input you're location into the card settings manually. I used that for a while but it consistently wakes the phone to update it which annoyed me so I use Dashclock as it only updates when I turn the screen on.
Without Locations it will still grab information from the net about your searches, sports teams, stocks etc. It will no longer show you commutes, local picture spots etc.
I've kept Google Now on mainly so I can still set and receive reminders but don't want to tolerate any unnecessary wakes when the screen is off and have accomplished that now.
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oh man, Idk il have to see how that works, cuz I use Google now a lot. but I'll try it, thanks again
George_Mn said:
Go to Settings->Location->Google Location Reporting and set both to Off => no more battery drain
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Not necessary to go that extreme.
I had the same issue as you guys after upgrading. Goto Settings->App->All
Select Google play services. Stop it. And clean data (All, including cache)
Reboot. And voila, it will consume much much less battery (Dont ask me why... Probably some conflict arising on the data file after upgrade)
On a side note, without completely disabling data location, it is worth switching to the battery friendly mode (Location will be evaluated using the network and not the GPS)
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Not necessary to go that extreme.
I had the same issue as you guys after upgrading. Goto Settings->App->All
Select Google play services. Stop it. And clean data (All, including cache)
Reboot. And voila, it will consume much much less battery (Dont ask me why... Probably some conflict arising on the data file after upgrade)
On a side note, without completely disabling data location, it is worth switching to the battery friendly mode (Location will be evaluated using the network and not the GPS)
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just tried that, I'll see what happens. what's this though, when I want to disable it I get this pop-up. I get it with all system apps, but the last line I've never seen before
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just tried that, I'll see what happens. what's this though, when I want to disable it I get this pop-up. I get it with all system apps, but the last line I've never seen before
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Dont disable it. Stop it and wipe data
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Dont disable it. Stop it and wipe data
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I wasn't going to disable it, I was just wondering what would happen if I did
also here are my stats from today, what is android system and android os? why are they draining so much battery? also why is Swype using so much battery?
Researched this a lot, found some solutions, bad and good fixes and after trying some different twists on it after two days this is what I found to be the best, and I decided since this is just as bad as 4.0/4.1 and the mediaserver battery drain I might as well try and help at least 1 person by mass posting this reply I wrote else where to other threads, so here you go:
"Hey- I don't know if you, or anyone else has found a working solution, but here is the way I found best:
Note- I am on galaxy s4 [sgh-i337] running a 4.4 KitKat rom. I have found the following work around to work best for me:
1 Google now & Hotword detection=OFF,
2 GPS = OFF and turned on only when needed, eg maps/checkin on facebook/whatever needs location.
3 Settings-> Manage Apps -> Google Play Services -> Manage Space -> Clear All Data.
**Optional:After this [root only] I go into KT tweaker and make sure my phone cpu is set to a max of 810 Mhz when screen off.**
This fix usually works until I reset the phone. I ALWAYS follow those 3 steps when rebooting. AND always check that after I've used GPS that Google Play Services isn't keeping my phone awake. [Eg, after 30 minutes I check if the phone ever went to sleep again when the screen was off.] IF it does act up, I repeat steps 1, 2 &3. I still get notifications and all, and this is the least feature disabling way I've found that works with the cost of a little micro-management of your phone.
With this fix I can idle for an estimated 5-6days. As I take off my phone from charge at 8am and at noon with minimal usage [maybe 4 or 5 texts] I am at 97%. With WiFi on & connected.
OTHER: I personally keep NFC&Android beam&Bluetooth OFF, and turn ON when I need it on. Other- WiFi is always ON, and "Scanning Always Available" EDIT: Now is OFF, "WiFi Optimization" is checked ON for me. And for location mode when I do have it on, I keep it at EDIT: Device only. Using only gps to find my location.
All in all, I hope this gets fixed."
I can post screen shots and all if somebody wants them or if there is need for one
-icy
icy4phone said:
Researched this a lot, found some solutions, bad and good fixes and after trying some different twists on it after two days this is what I found to be the best, and I decided since this is just as bad as 4.0/4.1 and the mediaserver battery drain I might as well try and help at least 1 person by mass posting this reply I wrote else where to other threads, so here you go:
"Hey- I don't know if you, or anyone else has found a working solution, but here is the way I found best:
Note- I am on galaxy s4 [sgh-i337] running a 4.4 KitKat rom. I have found the following work around to work best for me:
1 Google now & Hotword detection=OFF,
2 GPS = OFF and turned on only when needed, eg maps/checkin on facebook/whatever needs location.
3 Settings-> Manage Apps -> Google Play Services -> Manage Space -> Clear All Data.
**Optional:After this [root only] I go into KT tweaker and make sure my phone cpu is set to a max of 810 Mhz when screen off.**
This fix usually works until I reset the phone. I ALWAYS follow those 3 steps when rebooting. AND always check that after I've used GPS that Google Play Services isn't keeping my phone awake. [Eg, after 30 minutes I check if the phone ever went to sleep again when the screen was off.] IF it does act up, I repeat steps 1, 2 &3. I still get notifications and all, and this is the least feature disabling way I've found that works with the cost of a little micro-management of your phone.
With this fix I can idle for an estimated 5-6days. As I take off my phone from charge at 8am and at noon with minimal usage [maybe 4 or 5 texts] I am at 97%. With WiFi on & connected.
OTHER: I personally keep NFC&Android beam&Bluetooth OFF, and turn ON when I need it on. Other- WiFi is always ON, and "Scanning Always Available" & "WiFi Optimization" is checked ON for me. And for location mode when I do have it on, I keep it at EDIT: Device only. Using only gps to find my location.
All in all, I hope this gets fixed."
I can post screen shots and all if somebody wants them or if there is need for one
-icy
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thanks! but wow i wish my battery would be that good. i actually did so,ething else, i turned off the location reporting like someone earlier said and google play services dont even show up anymore. using device only disables location reporting as well so they both should have similar improvements.
This is the stock home screen widget, and i actually like it. However, the location feature, accuweather, sucks big time. No accuracy whatsoever. Always at least one town away from my location, and i have the phone's accuracy mode set to high accuracy (gps and networks). Is there any way to change the weather provider, or recalibrate the accuracy, without rooting the phone? That would be my last resort. Thanks for any help.:crying:
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This is the stock home screen widget, and i actually like it. However, the location feature, accuweather, sucks big time. No accuracy whatsoever. Always at least one town away from my location, and i have the phone's accuracy mode set to high accuracy (gps and networks). Is there any way to change the weather provider, or recalibrate the accuracy, without rooting the phone? That would be my last resort. Thanks for any help.:crying:
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Accuweather is the weather provider. As far as I know there is no way to change the weather provider for the Smart Notice widget.
aybarrap1 said:
Accuweather is the weather provider. As far as I know there is no way to change the weather provider for the Smart Notice widget.
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I went directly to LG, but they just told me to reboot the phone. Thanks.
Hi everyone,
I have a strange problem with the weather application which piss me off. I set up the app to show me the weather temp in Celsius, but every time I update the temperature and then closing the weather app the temp switch to Fahrenheit. Any suggestions?
Btw: Factory reset doesn't help!
P.S: I have a video for better explanation but can't post it here because of xda new user policy
I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.
Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.
aaronrey10 said:
Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.
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I've installed the latest beta Google Play Services, and battery drain has improved somewhat, still testing though.
Nandiman said:
I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.
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the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat
moreogthanu said:
the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat
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After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.
Nandiman said:
After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.
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As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar
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As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar
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Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.
Nandiman said:
Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.
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Draw over other apps stays on so does modify system settings
I'm just wondering what everybody thinks of the "Frequent Syncing" setting in Samsung Health. For anybody that doesn't know what that is, basically it uses more battery to ensure your step count is always up to date and matching accurately between your watch and phone. The description specifically tells you that it uses more battery which is important to note because that means it's significant enough to notice.
Frequent Syncing is on by default. To Toggle it on/off, Launch the Samsung Health app on your PHONE (Cannot be edited on watch). Tap on your steps to bring up the Steps breakdown menu. Tap the 3 vertical dots in the top right corner, and then tap the Frequent Syncing option. There you'll be able to change it and see a description of it.
Back to my original question, is that battery drain negligible and does anybody have an estimate as to how much drain the Frequent Syncing actually is responsible for?
dont even have this option there maybe becouse iam blocking sensor acces for samsung health couse this stupid app count steps even when iam watching some memes : p.
my battery last +/- 3 days gesture to wake on and no aod and 2 days aod on gesture off
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I also don't have that option on my Health App - and my sensor is not blocked. Strange !
lexorius said:
I also don't have that option on my Health App - and my sensor is not blocked. Strange !
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hmm do you have samsung phone i mean they cut out "contact us" for non samsung phone user in wear app so maybe they cut out some other options?
I have Poco.
berni502 said:
hmm do you have samsung phone i mean they cut out "contact us" for non samsung phone user in wear app so maybe they cut out some other options?
I have Poco.
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I've got a Samsung S20+
lexorius said:
I've got a Samsung S20+
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well thats quack up :/
berni502 said:
well thats quack up :/
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Maybe it's because I had to use the procedure in one of Dante's videos in order to get BP and ECG working on my watch.
These functions is disabled by default in my country - South Africa.
lexorius said:
Maybe it's because I had to use the procedure in one of Dante's videos in order to get BP and ECG working on my watch.
These functions is disabled by default in my country - South Africa.
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hmm idk but iam using it too becouse you know ekm poco : p
Same here, option is not available on a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra
Also, option is not there on my OnePlus 9 Pro!
I've had this turned off for a couple of days, haven't noticed any major difference other than maybe 1-2 hours of extra usage at max.
berni502 said:
dont even have this option there maybe becouse iam blocking sensor acces for samsung health couse this stupid app count steps even when iam watching some memes : p.
my battery last +/- 3 days gesture to wake on and no aod and 2 days aod on gesture off
44mm standard watch
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+/- 3 days is quite a lot I can say. What about other settings? I am with 46 mm lte (not using lte, I do not have eSim) and I can't reach full 48 hours, even with some battery management - Power saver, Airplane mode during I sleep, health measurements turned off.
I bought the watch 4 days ago and I am the second charge cycle yet.
evgeni.lalov said:
+/- 3 days is quite a lot I can say. What about other settings? I am with 46 mm lte (not using lte, I do not have eSim) and I can't reach full 48 hours, even with some battery management - Power saver, Airplane mode during I sleep, health measurements turned off.
I bought the watch 4 days ago and I am the second charge cycle yet.
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depends on usage i guess in my case without aod on but gesture to wake on, heart rate(10 min) notification on with screen turning on it can last about 3 days with aod set on brightness that i can see indoors not necessery in sunlight it last about 2 full days ;P
i have auto training detection off same for wifi and localization ;P and oxygen in sleep off too plus watch in that sleep mode over night
berni502 said:
depends on usage i guess in my case witchout aod on but gesture to wake on, heart rate(10 min) notification on with screen turning on it can last about 3 days with aod set on brightness that i can see indoors not necessery in sunlight it last about 2 full days ;P
i have auto training detection off same for wifi and localization ;P and oxygen in sleep off too plus watch in that sleep mode over night
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Of course it depends on usage.
Some questions:
1. Have you turned on gestures for answering/dismissing calls and alerts, because I have?
2. Power save mode - do you use it?
3. Regarding the notifications, you men you set it up to turn your screen when you receive notifications?
4. What about calls - do you have any calls on the watch in these 3 days?
5. What do you mean with "plus watch in that sleep mode over night"?
Thanks a lot!
evgeni.lalov said:
Of course it depends on usage.
Some questions:
1. Have you turned on gestures for answering/dismissing calls and alerts, because I have?
2. Power save mode - do you use it?
3. Regarding the notifications, you men you set it up to turn your screen when you receive notifications?
4. What about calls - do you have any calls on the watch in these 3 days?
5. What do you mean with "plus watch in that sleep mode over night"?
Thanks a lot!
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yes
no, i mean maybe 3 or 4 but short ones
that bed icon in quick setting iam forgeting the neme of it i set it up on 23-7
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no, i mean maybe 3 or 4 but short ones
that bed icon in quick setting iam forgeting the neme of it i set it up on 23-7
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Ooookkay. That explains more or less these 3 days
evgeni.lalov said:
Ooookkay. That explains more or less these 3 days
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ussually 2 becouse i like to use it with aod but now they quack it up :/
Recently I have heard some feedback from people who update with the latest major update that there have been improvements in battery life. Any observations from anyone who has updated?
evgeni.lalov said:
Recently I have heard some feedback from people who update with the latest major update that there have been improvements in battery life. Any observations from anyone who has updated?
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i think it is worse or same ;P
berni502 said:
i think it is worse or same ;P
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I thought it's a bit worse as well. Also, some watchfaces (Skagen) I used started glitching.