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What causes my bad battery life?

Hi, I'm worried about my bad battery life. Any ideas what it causes or how to improve?
I'm on latest Carbon Rom (Android 4.4.2), Now activated, Hotword detection off.
Logs and Screenshots: see attachment

I don't get it. You have 1 day 9 hour usage and 1 hour 42 screen time. Your screen time is low but your usage is quite a while, better than mine. Could be bad signal, you have 1 bar in all the screenshots posted. Try turning off sync or mobile data when not in use.

It's a combination of poor signal and gps settings.
Switch location mode to Device only and get us an overnight BBS log.

System UI is unusually high. I can only assume this is customized UI elements draining the battery. Google services are 2nd on your list so locations and auto syncs, among other things.
When you're getting normal battery life Screen should be at the top. Anything draining more than Screen you need to look into.
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mistahseller said:
I don't get it. You have 1 day 9 hour usage and 1 hour 42 screen time. Your screen time is low but your usage is quite a while, better than mine. Could be bad signal, you have 1 bar in all the screenshots posted. Try turning off sync or mobile data when not in use.
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Actually, he charged the phone (look at the first picture above the number 26 ) and as result, it was less than 1 day, 9h.

Aerowinder said:
It's a combination of poor signal and gps settings.
Switch location mode to Device only and get us an overnight BBS log.
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Thanks for the quick answer. I switched to 'device only'. Please find attached the overnight BBS log.

any ideas? someone?

Hi,
I see systemui is at the top of the list in all your screens. Are you using "pocket mode" or lockscreen notifications? I had the same issue on Mahdi rom and it went away when i disabled "pocket mode"
Are you running a custom kernel?
Some general battery saving tips are :
-Lower your brightness (i have mine set at 20%)
-Download "Wakelock Detector" and "Greenify" from playstore. These 2 apps will solve any wakelock problems.
-Turn Google Location Reporting and Location History off.
Sometimes a simple reboot does wonder for your phone.
Everybody has their own best combo of ROM + kernel so it will be up to you to find what works for you.
I'm currently running Mahdi's ROM + Elementalx and get 4 hours of screen time, 4 hours of music playback (from SD card) and 20+ hours of standby time

simplyazn04 said:
Hi,
I see systemui is at the top of the list in all your screens. Are you using "pocket mode" or lockscreen notifications? I had the same issue on Mahdi rom and it went away when i disabled "pocket mode"
Are you running a custom kernel?
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Hi, yes I'm using pocket mode. Too bad that it's drains this much battery! I love this feature

to me it looks as you having terrible wifi. and since you left the wifi on, your terrible signal drained the battery.

Towelie90 said:
Hi, yes I'm using pocket mode. Too bad that it's drains this much battery! I love this feature
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Try turning off the feature for a day and see if it improves your battery life any.
I'm also a big fan of the pocket mode feature and s2w/dt2w features because i hate reaching for the power button but it killed my battery.
What i can suggest to you is to try an app called Gravity Screen by one of our very own xda developer. Somehow, he managed to get the turn screen on/off via proximity sensor to barely drain any battery. I use this app combined with Dynamic Notifications and every time i take my phone out of my pocket, i get notifications like the Moto X and screen on without power button.
Best of luck!

flash back to stock & change tamper flag, and get an exchange. I found out that the earlier models have some with batt and radio problems

simplyazn04 said:
Try turning off the feature for a day and see if it improves your battery life any.
I'm also a big fan of the pocket mode feature and s2w/dt2w features because i hate reaching for the power button but it killed my battery.
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Confirmed. Pocket Mode killed my battery, too. Since I deactivated it, my battery life is acceptable.
simplyazn04 said:
What i can suggest to you is to try an app called Gravity Screen by one of our very own xda developer. Somehow, he managed to get the turn screen on/off via proximity sensor to barely drain any battery. I use this app combined with Dynamic Notifications and every time i take my phone out of my pocket, i get notifications like the Moto X and screen on without power button.
Best of luck!
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I'll give it a try! Thank you very much for your detailed help!

[APP][Android 6+] Ambi-Turner - wake up ambient display

I've created an app that wakes ambient display when you take the phone out of your pocket or if you have the phone face down and turn it over. The app is in addition to Google's ambient display and does not change your lock screen in anyway. It can also set "pulses" of ambient display. The free version allows you to have it always pulse while charging.
I added a few other paid features for tilt or lift to unlock, wave to unlock, pulsing at an interval, and battery percentage display on the ambient display.
Please let me know if you have any suggestions or run into any problems. Thank you!
Check it out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.compass.ambiturner

Pulse means, as long as i have for exampel a unread whatsapp message, ambi is showing at the set pulse time?
Maybe ill test it on OP3 with CM14.1 running ... will report back!

MultiCulti said:
Pulse means, as long as i have for exampel a unread whatsapp message, ambi is showing at the set pulse time?
Maybe ill test it on OP3 with CM14.1 running ... will report back!
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Correct. There is a filter for you to choose which apps can trigger a pulse. The pulse timeout is how long do you want the pulses to continue before it stops (to save battery). Pulse will temporarily pause when your phone goes into deep sleep. I could wake it up, but that's a much larger battery hit.
The other features seems to have little to now battery impact. Pulse is fine as long as the interval isn't set crazy low.
So far I've only personally tested it on stock Pixel XL.

ok, so far its working fine here!
Just the pulse isnt working (tried whatsapp and google messenger)
Love the idea off showing the battery, but its not that looking good :silly:
but i think, you just can manage this as "notification", or am i wrong?
anyways, good idea so far, will follow (bought it anyway) :laugh:

MultiCulti said:
ok, so far its working fine here!
Just the pulse isnt working (tried whatsapp and google messenger)
Love the idea off showing the battery, but its not that looking good :silly:
but i think, you just can manage this as "notification", or am i wrong?
anyways, good idea so far, will follow (bought it anyway) :laugh:
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The battery level is a notification. I'll create a custom layout to improve the look in a future update.
The pulse is the least reliable feature. I'm still working out the kinks, but doze and deep sleep definitely are one problem. I'm testing various ways and will try to get it as consistent as possible.
Alarm Manager would work but it would drain battery.

Looks great! Just to confirm - you need to have a lock screen set up for it to work?

poczynek said:
Looks great! Just to confirm - you need to have a lock screen set up for it to work?
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Yes, it works with androids Ambient Display. So if you have that and it's turned on it should work.

So I've done some limited testing with the app white listed from doze and so far it improves the responsiveness significantly. I don't know the battery impacts yet, but if it's not noticeable I'll add code to prompt users to white list it.
Other upcoming changes:
Advanced settings to adjust wait times for how long the phone has to be in your pocket or laying flat before a wake can occur.
A pulse option that initially pulses faster when a notification comes in, and progressively shows down until the timeout.
Possibly change in lock screen battery indicator appearance.
Filter on laying flat thresholds. I suspect the accelerometer incorrectly reports the phone tilted while it is laying flat on occasion.

New update posted.
I may have discovered what is causing the intermittent nature of wave to wake. I made some changes in how I'm using the proximity sensor so that should help. I'll have to wait and see after a day or so of use to see how consistent it is.
I also added an option to turn off the wake from pocket.
There's now a help screen with an email developer button and some troubleshooting hints. I've been getting a large number of 1 star reviews, and many of them are people who don't realize you need to have ambient display turned on and a lock screen set, so I included more info on that.
Oh, and the notification is now hidden unless you have the Battery Indicator selected!
If anyone is still having problems with tilt to wake please let me know. On my Pixel XL that has been working every time all day. There is sometimes a delay, but I think that's due to the aggressiveness of Android 7.1 putting the device into sleep.

Awesome app. I bought it mainly because of Wave To Wake, but for some reason it works two times on my Nexus 6 and then stops working until I turn my screen on and off again. Oh, and I've already whitelisted Ambi-Turner from the battery optimisation.
Also I would love if you could make Ambient Display work as soon as I turn the screen off, without having to wait for 10 or 3 seconds.
Thank you a lot for your hard work, I hope this can be fixed. Please contact me if I can help with anything!

Ygor Cortes said:
Awesome app. I bought it mainly because of Wave To Wake, but for some reason it works two times on my Nexus 6 and then stops working until I turn my screen on and off again. Oh, and I've already whitelisted Ambi-Turner from the battery optimisation.
Also I would love if you could make Ambient Display work as soon as I turn the screen off, without having to wait for 10 or 3 seconds.
Thank you a lot for your hard work, I hope this can be fixed. Please contact me if I can help with anything!
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I'm trying to get wave to wake as consistent as possible. Did you update last night? Let me know if that helps it.
I'm actually working on some advanced settings to let you control those timeouts.

grokus said:
I'm trying to get wave to wake as consistent as possible. Did you update last night? Let me know if that helps it.
I'm actually working on some advanced settings to let you control those timeouts.
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I'm testing it right now and it's still quite inconsistent. Though I never know if I'm waving too fast or too slow, you know? Maybe if there was a way to make it more sensitive? Thanks for the attention! ;D
Edit: just to be clear, Wave To Wake does only work two times, but I discovered that I don't actually need to turn the screen on for it to work, I can just move the device (then Ambient Display will turn on) and after that the Wave To Wake will work again (though still only two times). I believe it has something to do with the time after it's been awake or something like that.

Android Wear Issue
Ok...I love the app when its working and even bought the Pro. So worth it to me.
This morning I forgot my Android Wear watch (LG Urbane) at home and Ambi Turner was working perfectly. I had to run home at lunch, grabbed my watch, turned it on and now Ambi Turner isn't working.
Any thoughts how to get around this?

mschumacker said:
Ok...I love the app when its working and even bought the Pro. So worth it to me.
This morning I forgot my Android Wear watch (LG Urbane) at home and Ambi Turner was working perfectly. I had to run home at lunch, grabbed my watch, turned it on and now Ambi Turner isn't working.
Any thoughts how to get around this?
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UPDATE: I turned off the 'Mute' for my watch and Ambi Turner started working again. Hmm...gotta thing this one through. Turning on Mute alerts my watch, but I also see them on Amber Display.

Ygor Cortes said:
I'm testing it right now and it's still quite inconsistent. Though I never know if I'm waving too fast or too slow, you know? Maybe if there was a way to make it more sensitive? Thanks for the attention! ;D
Edit: just to be clear, Wave To Wake does only work two times, but I discovered that I don't actually need to turn the screen on for it to work, I can just move the device (then Ambient Display will turn on) and after that the Wave To Wake will work again (though still only two times). I believe it has something to do with the time after it's been awake or something like that.
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I'm adding some customization for the wave timeouts. I wish I could measure hand distance from phone but the pixel and nexus sensors don't have that granularity the way moto phones do.

mschumacker said:
UPDATE: I turned off the 'Mute' for my watch and Ambi Turner started working again. Hmm...gotta thing this one through. Turning on Mute alerts my watch, but I also see them on Amber Display.
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Hmm that's strange. I'm using a garmin fitness watch that has notifications and haven't seen anything like that. Does your watch somehow mute notifications on your phone so that only the watch displays them?

grokus said:
Hmm that's strange. I'm using a garmin fitness watch that has notifications and haven't seen anything like that. Does your watch somehow mute notifications on your phone so that only the watch displays them?
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Yes...there is a setting in Android Watch (Silence phone while wearing watch ) in the new version. It used to be 'Mute calls and notifications'. Its actually very handy so that when I'm in a meeting, I just get a vibration on my watch instead of my phone making any noise. Add the 'Feel the Wear' app where you can customize the vibration pattern per app...just a great combo.
EDIT: Since I just got a new version of Android Watch, it seems I can turn on the Silence option and the AmbiTurner, wake on wave, is working! Woo HOO!

Made tons of improvements. Tilt to wake should be extremely reliable now. There is also a lift to wake option. I reduced the speed you need to wave, so it should be much easier to trigger now. I also added an option to always pulse while charging.
Let me know how it works!
I had taken a break from updating it because I became a father but I have a little spare time now.

grokus said:
Made tons of improvements. Tilt to wake should be extremely reliable now. There is also a lift to wake option. I reduced the speed you need to wave, so it should be much easier to trigger now. I also added an option to always pulse while charging.
Let me know how it works!
I had taken a break from updating it because I became a father but I have a little spare time now.
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@grokus is this app still being developed?
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AOD (Always On Display) Auto Off?

So apparently on Samsungs official news site , the AOD display has a sensor that will disable the AOD when it's placed inside a pocket or a bag (Why would your watch be in your pocket or bag instead of your wrist?). You would think this would also work if say you're wearing a long sleeve shirt. I have been unable to trigger this via long sleeve shirts and I don't have thin enough clothing to test the pocket, nor do I own a bag to test.
"The device’s 3-inch circular Super AMOLED display has a resolution of 360 x 360. Its 16 million colors, full color Always On Watch continuously shows the time rather than fading to black. The ambient light sensor helps to adjust the brightness of displayed information and works to automatically disable the Always On Watch when users can’t see the screen, such as when the watch is in a pocket or a bag. Users can opt to personalize their Always On Watch with customizable, interactive watch faces."
Who's willing to help me test this feature?

Naturesretard said:
So apparently on Samsungs official news site , the AOD display has a sensor that will disable the AOD when it's placed inside a pocket or a bag (Why would your watch be in your pocket or bag instead of your wrist?). You would think this would also work if say you're wearing a long sleeve shirt. I have been unable to trigger this via long sleeve shirts and I don't have thin enough clothing to test the pocket, nor do I own a bag to test.
"The device’s 3-inch circular Super AMOLED display has a resolution of 360 x 360. Its 16 million colors, full color Always On Watch continuously shows the time rather than fading to black. The ambient light sensor helps to adjust the brightness of displayed information and works to automatically disable the Always On Watch when users can’t see the screen, such as when the watch is in a pocket or a bag. Users can opt to personalize their Always On Watch with customizable, interactive watch faces."
Who's willing to help me test this feature?
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Someone already posted on the forums about how their AOD wasn't working, and they found out it was because their strap was blocking their wrist from making contact with the sensor. I'm guessing that the heart rate sensor didn't sense a pulse and turned off the screen completely, or some other sensor all together.
Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s3/help/problems-feature-t3507324/page2

My AOD also turns off when the watch determines that I'm sleeping and then requires a security pin.
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optimummind said:
My AOD also turns off when the watch determines that I'm sleeping and then requires a security pin.
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My AOD works just fine. But it will not turn off when sleeping or covered. It senses my heartbeat just fine. Perhaps my unit is defective? How did you get it to turn it when sleeping, anything special?

Naturesretard said:
My AOD works just fine. But it will not turn off when sleeping or covered. It senses my heartbeat just fine. Perhaps my unit is defective? How did you get it to turn it when sleeping, anything special?
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Nothing special. My Classic began to track my sleep automatically out of the box. After I wake up, I press a button or rotate the bezel then put in my pin. Shortly afterwards, I get an alert on the watch and it shows in numbers & a graph how long I slept and also shows me how long I was motionless, how long I had a little bit of movement, and how long I was restless.
When the watch is simply covered up by my longsleeve shirt or a jacket, my AOD doesn't turn off.
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It won't turn off AOD with long sleeves, because it knows you're wearing it. It only turns off if it's NOT on your wrist. Or when you're sleeping.

Did anyone install the new PK7 watch update on their Gear S3? Any issues with AOD? Like AOD not working or turning off despite the AOD setting being on?
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I just got my Frontier today, and I came here now looking for answers on the AOD feature i have been hearing about but have not witnessed as of yet... My watch goes completely black every time after about 4 to 5 second of inactivity. Like i said i was coming here now to XDA to find out if this was a config problem or what?? Two things I have seen here that may be an issue for me, 1 - i always wear long sleeve shirts, and 2 - i have always had trouble with the smart watch heart rate monitors getting a good pulse on my wrist. (This is my 5th smartwatch, 4th samsung) I did do all of the updates today when initially using watch. I have been wearing it about 8 hours. Hope this helps.

S1CAR1US said:
I just got my Frontier today, and I came here now looking for answers on the AOD feature i have been hearing about but have not witnessed as of yet... My watch goes completely black every time after about 4 to 5 second of inactivity. Like i said i was coming here now to XDA to find out if this was a config problem or what?? Two things I have seen here that may be an issue for me, 1 - i always wear long sleeve shirts, and 2 - i have always had trouble with the smart watch heart rate monitors getting a good pulse on my wrist. (This is my 5th smartwatch, 4th samsung) I did do all of the updates today when initially using watch. I have been wearing it about 8 hours. Hope this helps.
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Settings > Style > Always on. Have you turned that on?
Also, it won't work if the watch isn't on your wrist.

Is there a way to increase the brightness of the AOD? Mine is hard to see unless I'm in a fairly dark room.

lyall29 said:
Is there a way to increase the brightness of the AOD? Mine is hard to see unless I'm in a fairly dark room.
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No, I just kept gesture motion on.

kronium said:
No, I just kept gesture motion on.
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That's my set up also.

lyall29 said:
Is there a way to increase the brightness of the AOD? Mine is hard to see unless I'm in a fairly dark room.
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Try Settings, Display, Brightness.

gpmg762 said:
Try Settings, Display, Brightness.
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Thanks, this does seem to be the only way to make the AOD brighter.

"Samsung Flaunt" is a widget you can install, i installed it on mine (you have to select it from widget once installed) as i found certain faces i have time out into a default (black face white hands and red second hand) i didnt want this, i wanted a face of my selection be it downloaded or a pre-installed face to remain on at all times especially if i go out, if you select the "Frontier" face (pre-installed) and have AOD Turned on you lose very little in quality / dimming when the time out kicks in, with "Samsung Flaunt" you install the widget and this then allows you to have the watch face on for up to 30 mins, However it will eat your battery, but then i can live with day to day charging, I like the idea of going out for a meal or a beer with pals and my face being on, i like the idea of a smart watch simulating a "real" watch look, as we all know there are thousands of faces we can select to show off.
S1CAR1US you can change the time out by going settings/Display/Screen Timeout/ then theres a choice of 15 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute or 5 minutes, if you select the desired time out, and go back to your normal face, by clicking your bezel one click left (notifications) and one click right (watch face) your face should remain on for that length of time, if this isn't long enough (wasn't for me) i used the "Samsung Flaunt" widget.
Rgds

Is it possible or not to set automatique disable AOD for exemple every day at 23 h to 07 h ?

[email protected] said:
Is it possible or not to set automatique disable AOD for exemple every day at 23 h to 07 h ?
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Would be very useful, but it is not possible.
I mean you can't set it in system settings, but it is possible to use a "complication" in Gear Watch Designer.
I designed a couple of watch faces setting a complication to turn off AOD every night, was very simple.

slimsta said:
"Samsung Flaunt" is a widget you can install, i installed it on mine (you have to select it from widget once installed) as i found certain faces i have time out into a default (black face white hands and red second hand) i didnt want this, i wanted a face of my selection be it downloaded or a pre-installed face to remain on at all times especially if i go out, if you select the "Frontier" face (pre-installed) and have AOD Turned on you lose very little in quality / dimming when the time out kicks in, with "Samsung Flaunt" you install the widget and this then allows you to have the watch face on for up to 30 mins, However it will eat your battery, but then i can live with day to day charging, I like the idea of going out for a meal or a beer with pals and my face being on, i like the idea of a smart watch simulating a "real" watch look, as we all know there are thousands of faces we can select to show off.
S1CAR1US you can change the time out by going settings/Display/Screen Timeout/ then theres a choice of 15 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute or 5 minutes, if you select the desired time out, and go back to your normal face, by clicking your bezel one click left (notifications) and one click right (watch face) your face should remain on for that length of time, if this isn't long enough (wasn't for me) i used the "Samsung Flaunt" widget.
Rgds
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Where did u install it from.. Cannot find it in playstore store nor Samsung stire
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I went into samsung gear app/samsung Galaxy apps/searched for flaunt, installed and it should sync to widgets on your s3 gear, hope this helps?

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lyall29 said:
thanks, this does seem to be the only way to make the aod brighter.
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if you guys trying fix all the lil things like brightness and touch and sound go settings_gear info_about device_software version when you infront of this click 5x and that will bring up dialer on there then just press *#0*# from here you can mess with brightness and all sorts of stuff if you figure wat *#0011# will help me out been trying bunch old codes from my s3 s5 days alot work on this lil thing and also if anyone figures out how too turn on dev mode cuz of thizzz pm me thanks....

[Guide] Carrier Locked /Snapdragon/ S9+ 10 Hours SOT by Hiro

How to reliably get 10 hours of screen on time or more with the snapdragon s9+.
I do not use the "battery saving modes" under the top swipe menu. If you only apply parts of these settings, you will get worse battery life. I can reliabally get 10 hours with 30% brightness. I have gotten over 13 hours with more conservative settings, btw.
https://i.imgur.com/bCCSYGP.png
1. Settings
Wifi>
/Advanced>
//switch to mobile data (off) ; get better wifi if too slow, and manually disconnect.
//Turn wifi on automatically (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
//wifi power saving mode (on)
//network notification (off)
//Autoconnect to at&t wifi (off)
connections>
/Bluetooth connect to nearby devices (off)
/NFC and payment (off)
/more connection settings>
//Nearby devise scanning (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
Display>
Auto brightness (off) ; change the brightness yourself when you need it.
Screen mode (basic)
Screen resolution HD (1480x720)
Led indicator (off)
Block accidental touches (off) ; this saves lots of battery
Screen saver (off)
Advanced settings>
Smart stay (off)
Direct call (off)
Smart alert (off)
Easy mute (off)
Video enhancer (off)
Touch sensitivity (off)
Lock screen and security>
Smart lock (disable everything)
Biometrics (off) ; use a pin, fingerprint or password.
Always on display (off) ; this is a important one
App permission monitor (off)
Cloud accounts>
Off, use google drive only.
If not enough space use SD card, there is a card reader in the phone for a reason.
NFC; off
Bluetooth; off
Secure folder; off
Edge lighting; off
Smart view; off
Dolby atmos; off
Now the important bits
Download and use google messages
Download and use google dialer. (You need to use the patched one for non nexus devices.)
Download and use nova launcher (I cant use Samsung experience without being displeased)
Download and use google contacts
Download and use gboard
Long press on power saving
Unmonitored apps> messages, phone, gboard, contacts
Always sleeping apps>
Every single app in the phone that you do not depend on auto updating in the background.
PS: I personally am offering a bounty for modifying the SD card to be internal storage without root. I tried the classic adb commands to no avail.

I've made a couple changes based on your list.
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"Amazing battery life", by disabling every feature of the phone. Lol, I've gotten close to 10 hours with all that **** enabled. Give me a break.
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A motorola razr will get that kind of battery life too

Yea lets gimp the phone....seriously why did you get the s9 lol. I use all my features i want turned on.. left phone off charger lost 3 % in 9 hours in standby mode. Pretty da$n good if ya ask me

Now why would i buy a expensive phone and turn all that off, i might as well use a flip phone seriously, i have all of it on from that list and i am happy with my AT&T S9 Plus getting over 8 hrs and half SOT with brightness at 95% and display at WQHD, that is nonsense to turn all that off.
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Venom0642 said:
Now why would i buy a expensive phone and turn all that off, i might as well use a flip phone seriously, i have all of it on from that list and i am happy with my AT&T S9 Plus getting over 8 hrs and half SOT with brightness at 95% and display at WQHD, that is nonsense to turn all that off.
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Exactly!!!!!!!! Might as well buy a flip phone or Jitterbug

tomkleeeb said:
How to reliably get 10 hours of screen on time or more with the snapdragon s9+.
I do not use the "battery saving modes" under the top swipe menu. If you only apply parts of these settings, you will get worse battery life. I can reliabally get 10 hours with 30% brightness. I have gotten over 13 hours with more conservative settings, btw.
https://i.imgur.com/bCCSYGP.png
1. Settings
Wifi>
/Advanced>
//switch to mobile data (off) ; get better wifi if too slow, and manually disconnect.
//Turn wifi on automatically (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
//wifi power saving mode (on)
//network notification (off)
//Autoconnect to at&t wifi (off)
connections>
/Bluetooth connect to nearby devices (off)
/NFC and payment (off)
/more connection settings>
//Nearby devise scanning (off) ; !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this uses a lot of power
Display>
Auto brightness (off) ; change the brightness yourself when you need it.
Screen mode (basic)
Screen resolution HD (1480x720)
Led indicator (off)
Block accidental touches (off) ; this saves lots of battery
Screen saver (off)
Advanced settings>
Smart stay (off)
Direct call (off)
Smart alert (off)
Easy mute (off)
Video enhancer (off)
Touch sensitivity (off)
Lock screen and security>
Smart lock (disable everything)
Biometrics (off) ; use a pin, fingerprint or password.
Always on display (off) ; this is a important one
App permission monitor (off)
Cloud accounts>
Off, use google drive only.
If not enough space use SD card, there is a card reader in the phone for a reason.
NFC; off
Bluetooth; off
Secure folder; off
Edge lighting; off
Smart view; off
Dolby atmos; off
Now the important bits
Download and use google messages
Download and use google dialer. (You need to use the patched one for non nexus devices.)
Download and use nova launcher (I cant use Samsung experience without being displeased)
Download and use google contacts
Download and use gboard
Long press on power saving
Unmonitored apps> messages, phone, gboard, contacts
Always sleeping apps>
Every single app in the phone that you do not depend on auto updating in the background.
PS: I personally am offering a bounty for modifying the SD card to be internal storage without root. I tried the classic adb commands to no avail.
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Thanks for all the tips and tricks. This is some great info!
I disabled a few things from your list that I won't use, left some others on.
Not sure why everyone is complaining and whining, but thank you!

LOL why would you buy an S9+ just to disable every feature and set it to 720p? Get a grip man

I can understand the desire, but making the SD adoptable storage negates having super fast UFS 2.1 storage. I could understand if we had slow eMMC or the like, but the storage in these phones are some of the fastest you can get, there's a real speed and usability advantage.

daraj said:
Exactly!!!!!!!! Might as well buy a flip phone or Jitterbug
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Venom0642 said:
Now why would i buy a expensive phone and turn all that off, i might as well use a flip phone seriously, i have all of it on from that list and i am happy with my AT&T S9 Plus getting over 8 hrs and half SOT with brightness at 95% and display at WQHD, that is nonsense to turn all that off.
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sarni84 said:
Yea lets gimp the phone....seriously why did you get the s9 lol. I use all my features i want turned on.. left phone off charger lost 3 % in 9 hours in standby mode. Pretty da$n good if ya ask me
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darkjedi said:
"Amazing battery life", by disabling every feature of the phone. Lol, I've gotten close to 10 hours with all that **** enabled. Give me a break.
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Every year it amazes me how many people use every single feature the phone has.... I never hear of anyone using some of these features on a daily but keeping them enabled obviously is the smart thing to do? Genius.... loving this Generation more and more by the day

Turning a bunch of those features off would drive me crazy. Smart stay is worth whatever small amount of battery it uses to keep the screen from constantly turning off while I'm in the middle of something. And it lets me get away with a shorter timeout, which probably saves more battery than Smart stay uses. Reducing screen resolution has, at best, a tiny impact on battery life. We've got the best screen in the business - why cripple it? LED Off? Yeah, why would I want to know when I have an email or text message, or a missed call? Let those people wait!
Block accidental touches uses far less power than having the phone constantly turning the screen on while it's in your pocket or purse. Smart lock? For sure. Who wants convenience when you can get an extra 10 minutes of battery life instead? And Google apps? Really? The savings in battery life, if there's any at all, is probably measured in seconds per day.
And there's no reason not to let the keyboard sleep. It will wake up as soon as you want to type something. And it uses zero battery when you're not actually typing (and damn little even when you are typing). Actually, most of the apps on your phone use negligible battery when they're not actually in use. Go to Settings / Apps and look at actual CPU and battery usage. Most of them will show zero.
A few of these are legitimate if you don't actively use the features, but aside from the network stuff most will have minimal impact on battery life.

AT&T S9 Plus all day at work 4G LTE been at work all day 95% brightness and resolution WQHD all my features are on at 62% battery SOT 3hrs and 46 min Outstanding battery life, so there's no need to turn all those features in the list which is nonsense.
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Venom0642 said:
AT&T S9 Plus all day at work 4G LTE been at work all day 95% brightness and resolution WQHD all my features are on at 62% battery SOT 3hrs and 46 min Outstanding battery life, so there's no need to turn all those features in the list which is nonsense.
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I want to know why your phone has been on for 4 hours while you're at work! I'm telling your boss! Get off Twitter! ?

zathus said:
I want to know why your phone has been on for 4 hours while you're at work! I'm telling your boss! Get off Twitter! ?
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Lol i am the boss at my job ???
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meyerweb said:
Turning a bunch of those features off would drive me crazy. Smart stay is worth whatever small amount of battery it uses to keep the screen from constantly turning off while I'm in the middle of something. And it lets me get away with a shorter timeout, which probably saves more battery than Smart stay uses. Reducing screen resolution has, at best, a tiny impact on battery life. We've got the best screen in the business - why cripple it? LED Off? Yeah, why would I want to know when I have an email or text message, or a missed call? Let those people wait!
Block accidental touches uses far less power than having the phone constantly turning the screen on while it's in your pocket or purse. Smart lock? For sure. Who wants convenience when you can get an extra 10 minutes of battery life instead? And Google apps? Really? The savings in battery life, if there's any at all, is probably measured in seconds per day.
And there's no reason not to let the keyboard sleep. It will wake up as soon as you want to type something. And it uses zero battery when you're not actually typing (and damn little even when you are typing). Actually, most of the apps on your phone use negligible battery when they're not actually in use. Go to Settings / Apps and look at actual CPU and battery usage. Most of them will show zero.
A few of these are legitimate if you don't actively use the features, but aside from the network stuff most will have minimal impact on battery life.
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I agree to keep the features on that you use... but the gestures where I pick up my phone and it vibrates or wipe my hand over the screen i never use and Im sure many others dont use either. I run 1440p with LED on and its amazing battery life

TheDantee said:
Every year it amazes me how many people use every single feature the phone has.... I never hear of anyone using some of these features on a daily but keeping them enabled obviously is the smart thing to do? Genius.... loving this Generation more and more by the day
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So many assumptions here I don't know where to begin, but I'll just say it makes more sense to leave on all the features you're paying $900 for then to spend the $900 and use setting to turn the phone into a mid-range phone from 2015.

vintagerock said:
So many assumptions here I don't know where to begin, but I'll just say it makes more sense to leave on all the features you're paying $900 for then to spend the $900 and use setting to turn the phone into a mid-range phone from 2015.
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Why have something run in the background you never use?
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vintagerock said:
So many assumptions here I don't know where to begin, but I'll just say it makes more sense to leave on all the features you're paying $900 for then to spend the $900 and use setting to turn the phone into a mid-range phone from 2015.
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Agree with you, if people are not gonna use features and turn everything off, then a Smart phone is not for you buy a flip phone and you be all set , a 950.00 to turn all those features it's totally nonsense.
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The level of arrogance in this thread is appalling.
If you're not interested in disabling things, move on. We don't need lectures about your usage.
Either disable things, or don't. Move on and grow up.

Question Battery saving tip

Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.

Thanks will give it a go. Right now I'm losing about 6 to 7% overnight

Stuart R said:
Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.
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So one needs to turn it back on whenever they want to make a call or use the camera and leave it off all the other times?

Just realized lift to wake doesn't work if you have sensors off.

Disabling the sensors I've noticed that turn on the screen by pushing the power button is slower. Can you please confirm this?

Any way to set this on automatically when you go to sleep and off again when you wake up via Bixby Routines?

butchieboy said:
Thanks will give it a go. Right now I'm losing about 6 to 7% overnight
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that's not bad at all. its usually like 9-10% for me on my S10 5G. My ultra is coming in April unfortunately

Just in case you are not aware, this Sensors Off quick settings developer tile is not unique to Samsung. It’s most likely available on all Android 11 & 12 devices. I have it available as an option in LOS 18.1

Sharpshooterrr said:
Any way to set this on automatically when you go to sleep and off again when you wake up via Bixby Routines?
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I don't know if Bixby supports Developer Options. Might have better luck using a custom task in Tasker.

butchieboy said:
Just realized lift to wake doesn't work if you have sensors off.
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Ah ... Yeah, lots of little convenience items will be affected in day to day use but I'm leaving the Sensors Off until I need them. YMMV.

dj24 said:
So one needs to turn it back on whenever they want to take make a call or use the camera and leave it off all the other times?
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That's pretty much the story as I understand it.

Stuart R said:
Ah ... Yeah, lots of little convenience items will be affected in day to day use but I'm leaving the Sensors Off until I need them. YMMV.
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Yeah still useful. I will just turn them off when it's time for bed. Thanks again.

Stuart R said:
Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.
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I tried this today, and even with sensors off I was able to talk over whatsapp call.
Am I missing something?

Stuart R said:
Here's a tip to save battery while still preserving the most important functions of your S22.
Enable "Developer Options" and turn on the "Sensors Off" quick set toggle in the "Quick Set Developers Tiles" area.
This will give you a new "Sensors Off" quick toggle to enable or disable all the Sensors on the phone, including the camera and mic. I've found this saves quite a bit of battery while not affecting most everyday uses. Additionally, overnight, my S22 only used about 3% of battery in 6 hours of idle time.
The rest of your phone will continue to function like normal including the mobile network and Wi-Fi. This also comes in handy if you want a more private experience. To turn the sensors back on all it takes is a tap of the Sensors Off button in the notification shade.
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So the cameraservice wakelock is also on the s22 ultra? Omg

chillsen said:
that's not bad at all. its usually like 9-10% for me on my S10 5G. My ultra is coming in April unfortunately
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Same here. Most fun is my Huawei Mate 20x (my work phone) is using between 0-1% over night, around 7-8 hours

I checked last night, and my S22 Ultra used 3-4% battery in 6-7hrs overnight. That's without turning off sensors, and with all the battery 'optimisations' disabled. I use AOD, but have it on a timer so it's not running overnight.
I don't know why others are getting such poor battery life, it's very odd.

I'm losing around 1% per hour overnight, AOD off and with mobile data

Thanks for the tip

butchieboy said:
Thanks will give it a go. Right now I'm losing about 6 to 7% overnight
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Did it help? How much are you losing overnight now with the setting on?

dj24 said:
Did it help? How much are you losing overnight now with the setting on?
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It was about the same for me about 6% overnight.