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After testing a few cheap chinese devices with powerful specs I am a bit dissapointed.
Performance is enough, but all of its touchscreen áre horrible. Touching those screens make you feel like if you were touching something rough. They aren't enough sensitive and accurate for básic usage.
So... Before buying any device, how can we know if that touchscreen is gonna be great? Like Samsung device's for example.
I'm not buying more chinese devices unless I certify they have enough quality in their touchscreens.
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tiner said:
After testing a few cheap chinese devices with powerful specs I am a bit dissapointed.
Performance is enough, but all of its touchscreen áre horrible. Touching those screens make you feel like if you were touching something rough. They aren't enough sensitive and accurate for básic usage.
So... Before buying any device, how can we know if that touchscreen is gonna be great? Like Samsung device's for example.
I'm not buying more chinese devices unless I certify they have enough quality in their touchscreens.
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You can't, you just need to read lots of reviews on them. That's the only way to find out.

Understood...
But what's wrong with that phones?
The digitizer?
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I´m using now ZTE v967s and i dont have a problems with touchscreen, but sometimes i need to hit twice buttons below the screen.
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Touching twice is once to wake up the button then twice to activate
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@tiner, before looking at spec, look at the manufacturer.... ZTE and lenovo are big brands and there's a reason for that.
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phil boob said:
Touching twice is once to wake up the button then twice to activate
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@tiner, before looking at spec, look at the manufacturer.... ZTE and lenovo are big brands and there's a reason for that.
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The latest device i've been testing was a Lenovo. It faced the same stuff.
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well, there is something called "prejudice". i own(ed) several chinese devices and none of them got such issues. i got few samsung devices (galaxy s, galaxy note and s3 mini) for reference. at least i see no difference between usability, handling, responsiveness or other things. also, dont forget that your "premium" devices are from china, too. sure, there are differences in quality, but if you spend 40 bucks for a new android device, it can't be a high quality powerfull device.
btw: im writing this with a toucscreen of Star N9770 with one of the best accuracity i've seen in devices so far.

Chrizzly92 said:
well, there is something called "prejudice". i own(ed) several chinese devices and none of them got such issues. i got few samsung devices (galaxy s, galaxy note and s3 mini) for reference. at least i see no difference between usability, handling, responsiveness or other things. also, dont forget that your "premium" devices are from china, too. sure, there are differences in quality, but if you spend 40 bucks for a new android device, it can't be a high quality powerfull device.
btw: im writing this with a toucscreen of Star N9770 with one of the best accuracity i've seen in devices so far.
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yes your right but maybe the lenovo this guy got was a snide?
So far I've owned 2 zte and 1 vsun i5, both zte phones are quality builds and feel solid, the vsun was made of that hard plastic and malfunctioned within a month.

phil boob said:
yes your right but maybe the lenovo this guy got was a snide?
So far I've owned 2 zte and 1 vsun i5, both zte phones are quality builds and feel solid, the vsun was made of that hard plastic and malfunctioned within a month.
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yes, but that can happen on high end devices, too. there is one real problem wit those devices: support. if you got a faulty device, sending back to china is expensive as hell. you can buy on ebay or a local shop too, but they are much more expensive then and i would buy a well known vendor instead. i you want a guarantee for quality, yiu need to buy qauality. same for cars, bicycles,, pc's...

There are some distributors which don't apply you any charges of return shipment. Obviously if the issue appears in the next 2 days to the package arrivement.
However, it doesn't worth it, you áre gonna loose the devices for two months at least.
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Chrizzly92 said:
yes, but that can happen on high end devices, too. there is one real problem wit those devices: support. if you got a faulty device, sending back to china is expensive as hell. you can buy on ebay or a local shop too, but they are much more expensive then and i would buy a well known vendor instead. i you want a guarantee for quality, yiu need to buy qauality. same for cars, bicycles,, pc's...
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As I mentioned the vsun malfunctioned. It was from dx deals, I got in touch with them and they said send it back, it turns out that with dx you don't send it back to China but to a drop off address in your own country, it cost me 4 quid to send it back and they have since refunded the phone cost and the return postage, granted its not a quick service due to the distance but I can't praise them enough, the customer service is excellent.

Knox is good or bad

What you think Knox feature is useful for us or not? Is it only software or its also accompanied by hardware that makes it to work?

Good for Samsung, bad for us
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anthon said:
Good for Samsung, bad for us
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Bad fro end users, good for Samsung, useless for business. Less covering rooted phones, even if root has nothing to do with the issue. BYOD Can't assume users have a Samsung product (even if they are the predominant player) and will have to use frameworks that are cross manufacturer compatible. Any business that standardized on Knox is locking themselves into a manufacturer that may not be the optimal choice in 10 years.

Is it still worth buying?

Its online price is quite tempting to me, but having read mixed reviews I'm unsure whether to buy this model or not. So, I'm asking to the real users of this device! Would you buy it now? The thing I care the most is app launch speed and overall speed.

Not really. I suggest you take a look at redmi note 3.

hell1134 said:
Not really. I suggest you take a look at redmi note 3.
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Thanks, but I'm looking for a phone 5" maximum.

I would say go with the Redmi 3 with only 5" screen... but i heard the Redmi 3S is coming out.

okh1 said:
Its online price is quite tempting to me, but having read mixed reviews I'm unsure whether to buy this model or not. So, I'm asking to the real users of this device! Would you buy it now? The thing I care the most is app launch speed and overall speed.
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Nah not really. I suggest looking for redmi note 3 or Moto G 3rd gen.

how about mi4c or mi4s?

Mi4c's touchscreen does not work well, and Mi4s is expensive right now. I ended up buying the Mi4i. So far so good, excellent device, nothing to complain.

Supertitan said:
I would say go with the Redmi 3 with only 5" screen... but i heard the Redmi 3S is coming out.
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When is Redmi 3 or Mi 4s coming to India ?
Any idea ?

hsb50 said:
When is Redmi 3 or Mi 4s coming to India ?
Any idea ?
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no idea.. but cant you order from alibaba.com ?

Selling your Mate 20 X - oh Dear.....!

Wasnt sure what section to place this in, but as it's news, I'll leave it here.
In the UK I bought this phone for £599 with the free cover and pen just over a week ago.
Now just thought I'd check how much this bad boy is worth(trade in prices) ....oh dear....one place, offers £100, the rest......£50!!!!
What's going on?
I know there is problems between us and China.....but what the hell??!!?

Where do they sell the mate 20 x voor 100? I'd buy another one.

biggary said:
Wasnt sure what section to place this in, but as it's news, I'll leave it here.
In the UK I bought this phone for £599 with the free cover and pen just over a week ago.
Now just thought I'd check how much this bad boy is worth....oh dear....one place, offers £100, the rest......£50!!!!
What's going on?
I know there is problems between us and China.....but what the hell??!!?
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I will purchase 10 now!

@basdaniel they still selling for same price, just the trade in and selling price is terrible

biggary said:
@basdaniel they still selling for same price, just the trade in and selling price is terrible
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Don't you worry... It's still by far the best phone out there! Honestly where will you find a phone with the largest screen and battery, Infra red, mpen, the internals of the p30 pro, and a camera to die for?
Still cannot get over this beast of a device!

I paid £799 included the pen and case. It's an awesome phone, Hdr screen, stellar battery life and amazing speaker system... I've considered moving given the uncertainty with Huawei but I look at what's out there isn't a phone with the same specs. I'm not compromising on camera, sound or battery life. Therefore I'm keeping my little pocket rocket. And android 9.1 will be released from 27 June.

599£ wtf?
Here u can get it for 599€, I get one for 499€ and on ebay you can get one for about 400-450€.
This is the price for last 6 weeks.
But there is no way to get it <400€.

I really dont care, i could never ever even thinking to sell this phone.

Still nothing out there that can currently beat it, i just hope they sort out this Chinese ban or i'll be forced to get another phone as won't be able to use Huawei for a work phone.

I'm going to be selling my L29 this weekend with a 128gb nm card, a bunch of cases and I'm also bootloader unlocked.

ajsmsg78 said:
I'm going to be selling my L29 this weekend with a 128gb nm card, a bunch of cases and I'm also bootloader unlocked.
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Will move to which phone?
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Csetoue said:
Will move to which phone?
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I just picked up one of these.

ajsmsg78 said:
I just picked up one of these.
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What's your impression, in comparison?
Loudspeaker and camera quality?
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Csetoue said:
What's your impression, in comparison?
Loudspeaker and camera quality?
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Speakers are about the same with an ever so slight edge to the 20 X as they are slightly louder and have a little more highs but not by that much. So far the camera quality is the same to me but I haven't had the phone more than a few hours. I'll have to take some comparison shots tonight;

Update : I actually sold the phone to a friend, for £550 and got a note 9, but a week later, have got rid of that, and rebought mate 20x again

biggary said:
Update : I actually sold the phone to a friend, for £550 and got a note 9, but a week later, have got rid of that, and rebought mate 20x again
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LOL .. )) Let's hope Huawei will launch HongMeng OS and will allow us to Unlock Bootloader... This will be amazing for me... Cheers

biggary said:
Update : I actually sold the phone to a friend, for £550 and got a note 9, but a week later, have got rid of that, and rebought mate 20x again
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Note 9 is a sham mate it's an abomination. Way too heavy even for me with big hands and love heavy phones. It feels like a cheap Chinese phone with a Samsung badge stuck to it. Think Samsung pulled a fast one here. Note 10 will be innovative and futuristic but note 9 was terrible. This phone is a keeper. Sucks that development is so poor. Glad you came to your senses not even the op7 pro can touch this. This is the best phone I have ever had and I have had them all. XS Max and XR 8plus S10 plus Note 9 NEX S Max 3 Mix 3 to name a few.

I sell my Huawei mate 20x EVR-L00 8go 256go emui 9.1. 0.123 with 3 cases, somes screen protection.
Bill provided, purchased from smartophone on june 2019 for testing.
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520 euros
Or exchange for mate 20x EVR-L29
I take the shipping costs at my expense.

biofx80 said:
I sell my Huawei mate 20x EVR-L00 8go 256go emui 9.1. 0.123 with 3 cases, somes screen protection.
Bill provided, purchased from smartophone on june 2019 for testing.
State new
520 euros
Or exchange for mate 20x EVR-L29
I take the shipping costs at my expense.
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What did you felt wrong with the Chinese variant?
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Not many things but
Impossibility tu use nova
Google assistant not Working at 100%
Chinese app
It's all but for me turn off the option to change the launcher Is contrary to the philosophy of android.
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Not many things but
Impossibility tu use nova
Google assistant not Working at 100%
Chinese app
It's all but for me turn off the option to change the launcher Is contrary to the philosophy of android.
With your evl l29 you can change launcher isnt it ?

custom rom support

do you think poco x3 will have custom rom support? what's your oppinion about this? i want to buy a new Phone, should i buy redmi note 9s (curtana) or poco x3 nfc for custom rom support?
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Having a new CPU and a camera sensor used only in 15 devices surely does not help. Combine that with the fact that xiaomi products are more and more secure and bootloader unlock times tend to increase and also the fact that they are not easily release source code, I tend to think that it will be an obscure device regarding development. Or it could be the next poco f1. Or oneplus 1/3. I have hope I'm terribly wrong and the development will be great because I'm thinking about buying the device. But then again there are a lot of xiaomi devices left behind. Being a android 10 device also will not help regarding custom recoveryes like twrp.
Le: because of the above I'm reluctant buying another xiaomi device. And pocophone f1 still sounds like a good idea.

drorcun said:
do you think poco x3 will have custom rom support? what's your oppinion about this? i want to buy a new Phone, should i buy redmi note 9s (curtana) or poco x3 nfc for custom rom support?
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it should be good
they're releasing code right away and its a beast of a phone so more people should have it

Just ordered my Poco X3. I think for the price, it's really an unbeatable package all things considered. Here's to hoping the custom development will be popular like Poco F1 is!

Really hope there will be roms like for x2.
I took the chance and ordered x3 from Aliexpress because at this price I think it's worth the gamble .
I hope many people will think like me and we will have some development running

After all the possible discounts I managed to get 128GB version for 152€ (180$) I think it's worth the risk...for the price it's a beast

The fact that it's getting a global release, including in India, bodes well for development. The launch has had a huge media campaign and the specs are unbeatable for the price. And kernel sources already released, hopefully without anything missing.

jirka607 said:
After all the possible discounts I managed to get 128GB version for 152€ (180$) I think it's worth the risk...for the price it's a beast
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How did you get such a good price? I used a code to get 10 USD off but it is far from your price.
In additin, I agree with you, the low price make it a good gamble.
180 euro / 215 USD seems more right but even that is crazy low

andreas951207 said:
How did you get such a good price? I used a code to get 10 USD off but it is far from your price.
In additin, I agree with you, the low price make it a good gamble.
180 euro / 215 USD seems more right but even that is crazy low
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I got some discounts for my AliExpress account + my bank has some good cashback for orders on Ali so after all that it was this.
It should arrive in about an hour according to tracking the shipping was crazy fast

jirka607 said:
I got some discounts for my AliExpress account + my bank has some good cashback for orders on Ali so after all that it was this.
It should arrive in about an hour according to tracking the shipping was crazy fast
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Thay sounds awesome. Even for my discounted price I think it is a good deal.
My phone is not even shipped yet I do not think it will arrive within 7 days as promised.

Mine is not shipped as well yet
Since it is shipped to Israel from China I guess I have at least one month of waiting...
At least I hope there will be some nice roms by the time I will get it

you all lucky, we cant buy smartphone from another country from internet in turkey about our government tax policies..
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Mine is already shipped, hopefully it will arrive on next week

Zasnizas said:
Mine is already shipped, hopefully it will arrive on next week
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Did you order from Aliexpress - China warehouse?

I ordered from Ali, Spain warehouse... according to tracking it's already near me but will be delivered on Monday/tuesday

newHere:) said:
Did you order from Aliexpress - China warehouse?
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No I ordered it from shopee during 9/9 flash sale and it is from global mi store China. According to my tracking number it is already shipped out

jirka607 said:
After all the possible discounts I managed to get 128GB version for 152€ (180$) I think it's worth the risk...for the price it's a beast
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Sure you did! ?
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jirka607 said:
I ordered from Ali, Spain warehouse... according to tracking it's already near me but will be delivered on Monday/tuesday
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They only started shipping today, so unless you live in Spain, next to the warehouse it is nowhere remotely close to you!

i ordered mine from france at 148.01€ in 64gb and i hope that the recovery and roms are coming soon ! I like pixel experience rom !

keenan316 said:
Sure you did!
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They only started shipping today, so unless you live in Spain, next to the warehouse it is nowhere remotely close to you!
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Not true, I've got mine since yesterday. It was shipped on 9th of September.
I did order it from Ali and I did request it from the Spanish warehouse, I'm from Portugal.

Before have custom rom, I want root Step by Step
I will receive mine this monday, ship on mi store france
I already create group and channel for poco x3 if anyone want come but it's empty for now
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