Yeah, so after breaking my head trying to upgrade I finally did it via Dload. Gapps were lost so I decided to give it a try without them.
For YouTube I use Youtube Vanced, just install Micro G from their website and Login, then install YT vanced and you are good to go.
Maps work without login in, Gmail you can access it via the stock email.
So I really don't need any Google services more.
For downloading apps I'm using Aurora Store which is very very good and all apps are there.
I'm now on. 176 Oct security patch with no Gapps. Amd I'm doing incredibly well. Maybe you guys can too.
atrix_noob said:
Yeah, so after breaking my head trying to upgrade I finally did it via Dload. Gapps were lost so I decided to give it a try without them.
For YouTube I use Youtube Vanced, just install Micro G from their website and Login, then install YT vanced and you are good to go.
Maps work without login in, Gmail you can access it via the stock email.
So I really don't need any Google services more.
For downloading apps I'm using Aurora Store which is very very good and all apps are there.
I'm now on. 176 Oct security patch with no Gapps. Amd I'm doing incredibly well. Maybe you guys can too.
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@atrix_noob you are absolutely right I recommend the same because 1- and to install them after a lot of effort something will not work properly and you do not know how much it will work! 2- since everything is done with the above that you mention and 70% of the applications go through and are installed just fine in the system and everything works properly. In fact, there is life without Google play
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@atrix_noob you are absolutely right I recommend the same because 1- and to install them after a lot of effort something will not work properly and you do not know how much it will work! 2- since everything is done with the above that you mention and 70% of the applications go through and are installed just fine in the system and everything works properly. In fact, there is life without Google play
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Agree, I'm using my phone the way I use it every day even wihtout gapps so it's very normal.
Im using it that way since day one. If u need some apps that require gms install VMOS Pro.
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Please help. Every 15 minutes my Google Play services needs to be reset I have to go into applications and clear the all the memory associated with the app then I have to go into one of the Google Apps and redo my account because the account gets deleted when it resets and then it's okay for 15 minutes. I went ahead and download it just the apps from the Huawei app and it does it with that. I went ahead and downloaded apps from the Google Play Store and it does it with that also. I went ahead and did a fresh installation of b109 and thought that would fix it and then reinstall all the Google Apps that I had and it still did the same thing so I am lost with the solution to the problem that I have hopefully someone can solve this or someone had the same problem that I have and have a solution. I have attached the image of what it looks like.
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Please help. Every 15 minutes my Google Play services needs to be reset I have to go into applications and clear the all the memory associated with the app then I have to go into one of the Google Apps and redo my account because the account gets deleted when it resets and then it's okay for 15 minutes. I went ahead and download it just the apps from the Huawei app and it does it with that. I went ahead and downloaded apps from the Google Play Store and it does it with that also. I went ahead and did a fresh installation of b109 and thought that would fix it and then reinstall all the Google Apps that I had and it still did the same thing so I am lost with the solution to the problem that I have hopefully someone can solve this or someone had the same problem that I have and have a solution. I have attached the image of what it looks like.
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What were you running before this happened. B106? B109? This usually happens when you try and flash the Play Services yourself as Huawei already includes them. If you didn't do anything different to cause this, go into Apps and uninstall the google play services update and see if it works after that.
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What were you running before this happened. B106? B109? This usually happens when you try and flash the Play Services yourself as Huawei already includes them. If you didn't do anything different to cause this, go into Apps and uninstall the google play services update and see if it works after that.
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I have tried that a couple of times. the only thing I can do is restore my twrp backup and that is stable and then google starts downloading those updates again and boom it brings that error up. I don't know which one because they come down in a diffent order everytime. If I just have gmail loaded it is fine but that is not going to work. I might have to try to load up a modded playstore that doesn't allow any updates at all and just be satified. What Google apps are you running (Full list, so I'll know whick one ones are okay to put on my phone). That would be a good thread. And do you have any problems like that?
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I have tried that a couple of times. the only thing I can do is restore my twrp backup and that is stable and then google starts downloading those updates again and boom it brings that error up. I don't know which one because they come down in a diffent order everytime. If I just have gmail loaded it is fine but that is not going to work. I might have to try to load up a modded playstore that doesn't allow any updates at all and just be satified. What Google apps are you running (Full list, so I'll know whick one ones are okay to put on my phone). That would be a good thread. And do you have any problems like that?
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I noticed that if you don't use the official Google Apps from Huawei's app store it causes problems.
I'm using these. They are from the official Huawei App store.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sr9njop0f7cdx65/GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.apk?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r26yhcret11l5nq/Phonesky.apk?dl=0
I went ahead and uninstalled all google apps, every one. Copied the ones included with the rom back to there location and set permissions. Then I went ahead and went to the huawei app store and downloaded the rest they had. And what was missing I got from the playstore and The apps updated from the playstore. So far so good.Emails are coming in instantly again. I made a twrp image of this setup because I think this one is perfect just incase I might want to experiment with some new google apps later. Thanks for the help.
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I went ahead and uninstalled all google apps, every one. Copied the ones included with the rom back to there location and set permissions. Then I went ahead and went to the huawei app store and downloaded the rest they had. And what was missing I got from the playstore and The apps updated from the playstore. So far so good.Emails are coming in instantly again. I made a twrp image of this setup because I think this one is perfect just incase I might want to experiment with some new google apps later. Thanks for the help.
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You'll be fine on any ROM with the Play Store and GoogleContactsSyncAdapter I sent you. Those are the only things you need to install when you flash a new ROM or update. All of the other Google Apps are already included in Huawei's stock ROMS. Google just released a new version of the play store and mine auto updated to the new one. Everything is still working though like it should. When Huawei releases the new version in their App Store I'll grab it and add it to my roms.
Hello guys,
I'm new to Android, mainly Microsoft products user. Got the P40 Pro and everything seems fine without the Google Play Services but some of the apps I install using APKPure display a dialog box at startup ("The application requires Google Play Services which is not compatible with your device") but the application keeps running and everything is fine, just getting this annoying popup... got it for eg. on Microsoft To-Do, SoundClound, Netflix... but not on Waze, neither on Microsoft Word/Excel/PPT, etc.
My question are: is there a workaround? I heard about GMS, is this something possible for the P40? Would a custom ROM solves this?
Thanks a bunch for your expert feedbacks guys!
this guy got google working on the p40 pro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJp1r1nOk5I
Don't make your life difficult guys.
You can live without gapps as well.
I have setup my p40 pro without gapps and everything works fine.
Nine mail instead of Gmail, tubemate or browser instead of YouTube, apkpure instead of play store, Firefox instead of Chrome and so on...
Also on this phone Netflix latest edition app works perfect.
All current projects of gapps installation its extremely unstable till now.
Try to enjoy your phone
stiflerakos said:
Don't make your life difficult guys.
You can live without gapps as well.
I have setup my p40 pro without gapps and everything works fine.
Nine mail instead of Gmail, tubemate or browser instead of YouTube, apkpure instead of play store, Firefox instead of Chrome and so on...
Also on this phone Netflix latest edition app works perfect.
All current projects of gapps installation its extremely unstable till now.
Try to enjoy your phone
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google assistant is irreplacable, and i am driving a lot, so using that is really handy.
Google maps is also much better then the alternatives (mostly in places of interest though)
i agree that the rest can be replaced with alternatives.
borgqueenx said:
google assistant is irreplacable, and i am driving a lot, so using that is really handy.
Google maps is also much better then the alternatives (mostly in places of interest though)
i agree that the rest can be replaced with alternatives.
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I have a P40 Pro and i have google maps and chrome, i have had no issues with either so far, need to get the latest version of netflix to try that, only thing i really miss is the gmail app
Butch33 said:
I have a P40 Pro and i have google maps and chrome, i have had no issues with either so far, need to get the latest version of netflix to try that, only thing i really miss is the gmail app
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Hey, could you do me a favour please? Does Google Translate work okay if sideloaded? I use it quite a lot and would prefer to keep it over other apps (if possible of course) . My P40 Pro is on preorder, I can't wait for next week. Cheers ?
stiflerakos said:
Don't make your life difficult guys.
You can live without gapps as well.
I have setup my p40 pro without gapps and everything works fine.
Nine mail instead of Gmail, tubemate or browser instead of YouTube, apkpure instead of play store, Firefox instead of Chrome and so on...
Also on this phone Netflix latest edition app works perfect.
All current projects of gapps installation its extremely unstable till now.
Try to enjoy your phone
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Sorry man but I'm not totally agree.
There are indispensable google services:
maps, drive, photos.
By now, those who have relied on Google for years, will not be able to do without it.
Without forgetting that Google services give access to many services (banks, backups) and the lack of these would make the phone almost an ornament.
Also many apps (including Netflix) work / don't work. It may be that today it works and after an update it no longer works. On YouTube there are tons of reviewers showing it.
Cutious if notifications will work from play store apps on the p40 through what method.
Yes, it works.
i installed it and i noticed that google play games not working and some games can enter throw it and others you can not or it takes time to enter the game to get some info and data throw your play account .
also google pay not working and not enter it
Twitter notifications dont work (there no bell icon in the app and under push notifications settings, nothing appears) the app works fine though). Nest app notifications dont work either. Ebay app not working either. App gallery is terrible, I knew it was bad but not this bad. The phone is beautiful but quite disappointed so far as I dont depend on Google Services much, will probably be returning it, I think.
stiflerakos said:
Don't make your life difficult guys.
You can live without gapps as well.
I have setup my p40 pro without gapps and everything works fine. ....
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So how did you get Google Wear O/S working then?
Butch33 said:
I have a P40 Pro and i have google maps and chrome, i have had no issues with either so far, need to get the latest version of netflix to try that, only thing i really miss is the gmail app
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How do you get your Google maps to work? Mine won't let me add an account, just won't do anything when I click to add account? I do have chrome which is working fine ?
I miss google Pay
i wanted to paste the guide here but xda is not accepting my doc formatting please see the guide here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13X_ZZELINL5jIJZTcpPDRsmIGQ7cYMy6nuahJQJ5DzE/
Nice guide - albeit I couldn't overlook the irony of using Google Docs here!
Nice document. For me though it's not really the Google apps that I can't substitue, I hardly use any anyway. It's mainly apps that don't work because of GMS.
i have to say that having had this phone for a few days and trying to use it without play services it was becoming a struggle for me.
I downloaded as many of my apps i use from the app store and 3rd party sites but its just not the same. I forgot how much information i had stored with google like passwords and login details etc.
I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.
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I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.
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Which guide did you follow? I see one on XDA and other ones floating around the web. Did you run into any issues or did the guide works step by step?
I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.
Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS
rambits said:
Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS
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But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced
ptlsajan said:
But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced
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You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.
steveli92 said:
You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.
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I tried that with OGyoutube and login in with microg service wasnt possible for me
hpsauce37 said:
I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.
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I followed the same guide and everything but the notifications works. Only notifications from a few apps work. All apps that require the Google services to get the notifications (about 85% for me) do not seem to work.
I too didn't managed to login with MicroG and without GMS...
Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?
arsenal74 said:
Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?
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It's funny that you mentioned eBay and The Athletic as they are two apps that I use quite regularly and am having the same issue - is there any way around this without installing GMS?
My P40 Pro only arrived a couple of days ago and I really like the look and feel of it but the notifications thing is already bugging me. Currently, I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...
Tmel14 said:
I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...
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install microG and move on .. notifications are completely screwed on HMS-naked .. even Huawei App Gallery apps are screwed-up with notifications .. very strange that this is often overlooked in the P40 Pro reviews ... how can you answer a skype call if the app never rings with a notification?
Hello,
I hope this is good subforum for this post.
So I have this brand new Huawei P40 Lite and I want to use google services. Of course these doesn't work. But I have access to an older Huawei mobile phone which has google services all working perfectly and legally. Can I just copy this data from old device to P40 Lite? Official software allow to do that once you start it for the first time, but will google services work? I just want google store with all apps working and certified, maps, chrome, yt. I don't need google pay.
Hi you wont be able to run google play store, u can use a alternative Auora Store for apps. Then Youtube you can use youtube Vanced. Then if you need maps download Waze from Auora Store
any tutorial for instal google service ?? some apps tell me if you want use this apps you need google servie.
I am joining to the question
Hi,
I have just bought a p40 lite running Build 10.1.0.301, Modell JNY-LX1
I have been trying to get google stuff on the phone for a while.
Dualspace seems to work ( download from web https://dualspace.en.uptodown.com/android) but is a little sketchy, need to clear the cache / restart phone often
VMOS pro (https://www.vmos.com/) also works but for some reason location doesn't work, so apps like strava are useless.
but it seems fairly stable
Using clone phone I got google maps working and some other things, so guess some of these you can download the apk off the web.
But so far no golden bullet.
I tried "chat partner" but get the no network error--- is there a fix for this, does this work?
I also tried bender007 's googlefier but so far I can't get through the first step of installing the alternative back up software. I guess the next step is to downgrade to another flash, but I'm afraid of bricking the phone.
Can anyone share some experience with this, it has to work as I am pretty sure my wife will kill me if I break this phone!
Another_NotReallyBob said:
Hi,
I have just bought a p40 lite running Build 10.1.0.301, Modell JNY-LX1
I have been trying to get google stuff on the phone for a while.
Dualspace seems to work ( download from web https://dualspace.en.uptodown.com/android) but is a little sketchy, need to clear the cache / restart phone often
VMOS pro (https://www.vmos.com/) also works but for some reason location doesn't work, so apps like strava are useless.
but it seems fairly stable
Using clone phone I got google maps working and some other things, so guess some of these you can download the apk off the web.
But so far no golden bullet.
I tried "chat partner" but get the no network error--- is there a fix for this, does this work?
I also tried bender007 's googlefier but so far I can't get through the first step of installing the alternative back up software. I guess the next step is to downgrade to another flash, but I'm afraid of bricking the phone.
Can anyone share some experience with this, it has to work as I am pretty sure my wife will kill me if I break this phone!
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Well look The p40 lite sucks without GMS. There is sadly like no way to get Google services working.. My experience is okay I use an app called Aurora store to get most of the Google play store apps.
AuroraOSS
I think the moment someone can root this phone that will be awesome. Then it means we can load a custom ROMand flash GMS.
Billabomb75 said:
Well look The p40 lite sucks without GMS. There is sadly like no way to get Google services working.. My experience is okay I use an app called Aurora store to get most of the Google play store apps.
AuroraOSS
I think the moment someone can root this phone that will be awesome. Then it means we can load a custom ROMand flash GMS.
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I haven't tried the Aurora store yet, but at least VMOS Pro and and dualspace are doing something.
Seems like the possibility to Brick the phone whilst downgrading is high having now read a couple of posts. I must admit I don't really understand the problem. I would have thought that it's more like installing linux on your computer in so far as you can screw up the installation of linux, but not the computer its self.
Is this something to do with the root access or a locked bootloader ?
Another_NotReallyBob said:
I haven't tried the Aurora store yet, but at least VMOS Pro and and dualspace are doing something.
Seems like the possibility to Brick the phone whilst downgrading is high having now read a couple of posts. I must admit I don't really understand the problem. I would have thought that it's more like installing linux on your computer in so far as you can screw up the installation of linux, but not the computer its self.
Is this something to do with the root access or a locked bootloader ?
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Yeah... Its to do with a locked bootloader. People try to root the phone with a locked bootloader then the phone bricks...
Billabomb75 said:
Yeah... Its to do with a locked bootloader. People try to root the phone with a locked bootloader then the phone bricks...
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But I don't want to root it, just downgrade it to see if the googlefier hack works. So why should it brick the phone? In my mind if I don't screw up the bootloader then I should always be able to flash back a good working version of android?
Another_NotReallyBob said:
But I don't want to root it, just downgrade it to see if the googlefier hack works. So why should it brick the phone? In my mind if I don't screw up the bootloader then I should always be able to flash back a good working version of android?
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Oh if you downgrade that is no problem.
Just make sure your Model number is correct and the C Varient. F.E C432
So quick update:
Dualspace works a bit, but after a few hours despite my best efforts of restarting and clearing the cache gmail stopped working.
So I downloaded HI suite and downgraded with the option they gave me, easy no probs, can't imagine how you could screw up your phone.
Then I did the googlefier I followed this video
It's useful because there are errors that pop up , and what bender007 writes, is not always exactly what happens. So any little doubts you might have that you are doing it wrong disappear.
Still took a couple of goes as I had to stop halfway to deal with some other stuff.... don't do that !
Do the whole thing in one go.
Now it is working, and as yet I have no errors , so let's see if it is still working tomorrow!
Another_NotReallyBob said:
So quick update:
Dualspace works a bit, but after a few hours despite my best efforts of restarting and clearing the cache gmail stopped working.
So I downloaded HI suite and downgraded with the option they gave me, easy no probs, can't imagine how you could screw up your phone.
Then I did the googlefier I followed this video
It's useful because there are errors that pop up , and what bender007 writes, is not always exactly what happens. So any little doubts you might have that you are doing it wrong disappear.
Still took a couple of goes as I had to stop halfway to deal with some other stuff.... don't do that !
Do the whole thing in one go.
Now it is working, and as yet I have no errors , so let's see if it is still working tomorrow!
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Welp i can't downgrade my phone........
It sucks.
Another_NotReallyBob said:
So quick update:
Dualspace works a bit, but after a few hours despite my best efforts of restarting and clearing the cache gmail stopped working.
So I downloaded HI suite and downgraded with the option they gave me, easy no probs, can't imagine how you could screw up your phone.
Then I did the googlefier I followed this video
It's useful because there are errors that pop up , and what bender007 writes, is not always exactly what happens. So any little doubts you might have that you are doing it wrong disappear.
Still took a couple of goes as I had to stop halfway to deal with some other stuff.... don't do that !
Do the whole thing in one go.
Now it is working, and as yet I have no errors , so let's see if it is still working tomorrow!
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I did everithing bi benders instructions downgrade, instalation by googlefire step by step and everithing works.
Upgraded to a newer Version of emui and everithing is OK except the notification on some apps. Hope someone has the solution for that!
just look for gsmzambia on youtube. They will help you without stressing too much about hisuite and bricking your device
looking to get a more updated rom for youtube and livenettv so was looking at the android 6 roms. since i only want to use 2 apps on this device do i need to install gapps as well or can i skip gapps and just sideload the 2 apps i plan to use on the tablet?
If you want to sign in to your Google Account you're gonna need Google Services of some sort, maybe you could use MicroG for that. Other than that I don't think gapps are necessary.
hi, i dont need to sign into any google services. just need it to run youtube and livenettv. dad wont be doing anything else with it.
slybunda said:
hi, i dont need to sign into any google services. just need it to run youtube and livenettv. dad wont be doing anything else with it.
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Well you can watch YouTube even on stock android browser.
this is sorted now. flashed tablet with omni rom 6.01. no gapps and youtube and livenettv working great. much faster than stock rom was too.
the lack of gapps really frees up a lot of ram and helps the tablet zip along with relatively no slowdown. only drawback i got to manually get the apk for what i want to install. but added advantage that ads cant launch playstore etc.
slybunda said:
the lack of gapps really frees up a lot of ram and helps the tablet zip along with relatively no slowdown. only drawback i got to manually get the apk for what i want to install. but added advantage that ads cant launch playstore etc.
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Hey don't do manual work bro. Install aurora store for apps. Giving apk for Aurora store in attachment
handy but tablet just used for youtube and livenettv nothing else. so far so good. shame samsung didnt update it officially.