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[Tip]Using Play Store Without Play Services

I came across an interesting workaround today regarding the annoying refusal of Google Play Store to run when Google Play Services is not enabled. Running the following in a terminal will disable a component of Google Play Services that prevents the check when you start the Play Store:
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pm disable com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.recovery.RecoveryService
Note: I have not tested this enough to know if there are any significant drawbacks yet.
I can say that this will finally allow Google Play Services to be greenified (although other components such as Google Backup Transport seems to occasionally prevent greenification). In addition, it seems to stop all those logs from being written to /data/system/dropbox/, which I personally found to be very irritating, and found the alternative solution of setting the folder to read-only to be problematic.

Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.

bsimpson1 said:
Unfortunately it looks like google play services is necessary to allow you to download apps from the play store. I didn't realize it at first because the checkin service had already done its thing and I was free to use everything until it was time for the next checkin. I'll post here if I find out any way to overcome this, but it looks like Google Play Services is probably necessary for the Play Store to function.
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I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.

sonyu said:
I tried and failed. There's no workaround. >.< Play Store needs Google Play Services in order to work properly.
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Yeah, there is absolutely no workaround.Play Services forms the core for the Google Playstore App.hence it can't function without it.

didito said:
Will try this when I get the root.
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Yea, go ahead.
...Just wanna let you guys know, there's a google thread, in which people talk/ed bout the purpose of .services. Turns out you really need that sh*t!XD
It's like a framework you simply need to have installed- just like @donniemceduns said. ^ ^
Off-topic ― now, I'm on CM11, with no Google Play installed, therefore no .services running. I simply installed an alternative market. ^ ^

didito said:
Wow.. Can you tell me what alternative market you installed?
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I tried them all — Mobogenie used to be ****ty, works fine now.
.apk link- DIRECT DOWNLOAD LINK
Has all the apps from Google Play. No sign-in required.
I didn't like it; it's okay now. Use it as my primary market
If you find a better market, make sure to share a link!

didito said:
Thanks for the link. One question though. Lets say I install a kitkat rom. Can I remove all the Play Store services and their dependencies to improve my phone's performance? I plan to do this and let Mobilegenie be my only market. If this is possible how can I remove these services for good?
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Hi Didi,
Yea, sure.
You already know this, but for all the people who didn't bother to read the thread, removing .services will result in errors, whenever you try to open a google application(Play store for instance), which requires .services.
I used a kitkat ROM before- deleted all G-apps and installed my alternative market. No errors! ^ ^
As for Mobogenie, it's my primary market on CM11. It features autoupdates, even auto-install if your device is rooted. Sweet! :good:
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Oh, sorry @didito! Didn't notice the "how can I remove these services for good" part.
Install an Uninstaller app for rooted devices( Your device must be rooted).
In-app: Navigate to SYSTEM APPS & remove google play services and google play store.
If you're not sure which app to use, try "Root App Delete".

Question... Or, an observation anyway... Sorry to bring back an old thread but I've been wondering a similar thing
On my newer device, Samsung Galaxy s5 neo, play services are needed to run the play store. *however*, on my older device, Samsung captivate glide, play services are not required to open the store.
Both using stock but rooted software from Samsung.
Why would this be that it's possible on 1 but not the other?
Unless maybe because I have already debloated my older device, maybe removing other gapps is what it would take?
I don't have a data plan and therefore wouldn't use much if any of them (maps, etc)
It just has me wondering what has changed between the 2, and maybe even if I'd be able to use and run my other devices play store app, and then use disable service to stop it from fully updating?
Hmm... I know everyone else has likely given up long ago.... But I've been curious today.

[Q] Hello you lovely Huawei people!

I've been looking at Chinese smartphones for a while but haven't yet taken the plunge. However, a colleague of mine asked me for my opinion and I nudged him in the direction of the X2, as it would have been what I would have gone for had I gone for one...
He went for it and I am impressed. But I didn't realise (probably niaively) that it would be so dislodged from Google. Obviously not completely detached, but there is no Play Store, G+, Play Services etc as you will all know. I've been on XDA for many years and I'm somewhat of an HTC fanbuy (see my sig :laugh so I know all about unlocking bootloaders, rooting, flashing custom recoveries, firmware, custom roms etc so I am absolutely fine doing all that. He has brought the phone back to me and asked if I can help him with it; basically give him a more "westernised" Android experience I suppose
So once unlocked, rooted and flashed the (apparently) only custom rom available (KangVIP), am I able to flash a gapps package to it? And if anyone has done so, would you please be able to point me to the right one to use? He tried adding google apps from the built-in appstore but they don't play nicely (I wouldn't expect them to), presumably because the framework isn't there
Coming from a long list of mainstream devices, it's amazing to me to see a subforum with only one of two threads I understand the lack of support isn't due to unwillingness though; just a lack of owners and developers. I've been on XDA so long because of how helpful everyone is and I try to help others where I can from my experiences and techy logic
I would be extremely grateful for a little bit of advice if someone wouldn't mind :good:
Thank you all
PS - The device is the 16GB 703L and is currently running the B106 update (EMUI 3.1)

matmaneyre said:
I've been looking at Chinese smartphones for a while but haven't yet taken the plunge. However, a colleague of mine asked me for my opinion and I nudged him in the direction of the X2, as it would have been what I would have gone for had I gone for one...
He went for it and I am impressed. But I didn't realise (probably niaively) that it would be so dislodged from Google. Obviously not completely detached, but there is no Play Store, G+, Play Services etc as you will all know. I've been on XDA for many years and I'm somewhat of an HTC fanbuy (see my sig :laugh so I know all about unlocking bootloaders, rooting, flashing custom recoveries, firmware, custom roms etc so I am absolutely fine doing all that. He has brought the phone back to me and asked if I can help him with it; basically give him a more "westernised" Android experience I suppose
So once unlocked, rooted and flashed the (apparently) only custom rom available (KangVIP), am I able to flash a gapps package to it? And if anyone has done so, would you please be able to point me to the right one to use? He tried adding google apps from the built-in appstore but they don't play nicely (I wouldn't expect them to), presumably because the framework isn't there
Coming from a long list of mainstream devices, it's amazing to me to see a subforum with only one of two threads I understand the lack of support isn't due to unwillingness though; just a lack of owners and developers. I've been on XDA so long because of how helpful everyone is and I try to help others where I can from my experiences and techy logic
I would be extremely grateful for a little bit of advice if someone wouldn't mind :good:
Thank you all
PS - The device is the 16GB 703L and is currently running the B106 update (EMUI 3.1)
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When you install the play store from the Chinese App Store it installs the Google Framework. The only two things you need to install are the Play Store and GoogleContactsSyncAdapter. You can download the GoogleContactsSyncAdapter here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nw5nwhtp16l5gd6/GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.apk?dl=0

ajsmsg78 said:
When you install the play store from the Chinese App Store it installs the Google Framework. The only two things you need to install are the Play Store and GoogleContactsSyncAdapter. You can download the GoogleContactsSyncAdapter here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nw5nwhtp16l5gd6/GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.apk?dl=0
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Thanks for this. I did read this in another thread actually but I was reading so much that it got lost in my brain somewhere
So at the moment play store is installed (I don't have the X2 with me at the moment). Play store won't load because of not being able to authenticate with Google servers. Also G+ doesn't work for the same reason and obviously sync doesn't work. So am I right in thinking that one sync adapter will solve all of that? If so I'll sort it tomorrow for him :good:
Thanks again

matmaneyre said:
Thanks for this. I did read this in another thread actually but I was reading so much that it got lost in my brain somewhere
So at the moment play store is installed (I don't have the X2 with me at the moment). Play store won't load because of not being able to authenticate with Google servers. Also G+ doesn't work for the same reason and obviously sync doesn't work. So am I right in thinking that one sync adapter will solve all of that? If so I'll sort it tomorrow for him :good:
Thanks again
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I didn't have to do anything on my new X2 other than install the play store and GoogleContactsSyncAdapter. Go into settings---Manage Apps and clear data for the play store and see if it opens. Mine opened no problem and I was able to sign into my Google account from there. When I opened maps it asked me to update Google play services and when I did the play store would no longer open. So I installed the Google play services update, rebooted and everything worked fine after that.

ajsmsg78 said:
I didn't have to do anything on my new X2 other than install the play store and GoogleContactsSyncAdapter. Go into settings---Manage Apps and clear data for the play store and see if it opens. Mine opened no problem and I was able to sign into my Google account from there. When I opened maps it asked me to update Google play services and when I did the play store would no longer open. So I installed the Google play services update, rebooted and everything worked fine after that.
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Excellent... Thanks a lot! I forwarded the link to him and told him to download and install it and he reports everything is working. To say he is grateful is an understatement. I was bombarded with messages at 2am saying how amazing it is
Just need to help him get rid of all of the Chinese bits now. Changing default apps and keyboard, launcher etc. He's not really interested in rooting which is a shame because of all the system apps I'd like to clear out for him but if he's happy I'll let it go. No good for my OCD though. I like a clean ROM myself

matmaneyre said:
Excellent... Thanks a lot! I forwarded the link to him and told him to download and install it and he reports everything is working. To say he is grateful is an understatement. I was bombarded with messages at 2am saying how amazing it is
Just need to help him get rid of all of the Chinese bits now. Changing default apps and keyboard, launcher etc. He's not really interested in rooting which is a shame because of all the system apps I'd like to clear out for him but if he's happy I'll let it go. No good for my OCD though. I like a clean ROM myself
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Have him install Swiftkey, Textra and Apex Launcher. Those are some of my favorite apps.

ajsmsg78 said:
Have him install Swiftkey, Textra and Apex Launcher. Those are some of my favorite apps.
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Swiftkey is standard for me so that's a definite recommendation. And yes something along the lines of Apex or Nova will improve it 1000%. At least then he can have an app drawer and either hide the stock Huawei apps or put them into a folder, never to be opened again
Messaging-wise he's already using WhatsApp but I'll mention Textra anyway

Google Play and Apps on X2
Which model is your friend having ? Mine is the GEM-702L and it comes pre-installed with Google Play and apps.

ajsmsg78 said:
Have him install Swiftkey, Textra and Apex Launcher. Those are some of my favorite apps.
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Textra is the best. I gave up swiftkey for touchPal. Also, love Buzz launcher also. And for emails, I cant give up on CloudMagic.
weather is weatherbug
GPS Navigation is WAZE
add others if you think of some top notch super highly recommended stuff

Android - Life without Gapps

It has just always been my default move to flash Gapps after a custom ROM flash. Reflex just like flashing SuperSU.
Lately I'm annoyed with it, though. There are some apps I don't want to update, ever. Using an app to remove the market link for an app works till you run the Play Store again, so it really doesn't work. Then you have to go through the apps one by one and update them instead of touching "Update All", or just remove the market link every time before you check for updates via Play. I suppose you could write a script that runs before the Play Store to do this automatically, but this is another annoyance rather than a fix IMHO. And you still get Play Services running the BG whenever it feels like it. Also something I don't like.
So, anybody not using Gapps at all on a DD device? And what are you using to get apps instead? I found androiddrawer.com to be pretty good, but any other full on "store" app seems to either not do enough of what Play Store does, or it does exactly what it does, and I don't want that, OR it's the Amazon "app store" which is just really stupid anymore.
So what I want is either an app store that gives me the option to leave an installed app alone forever and keep its stupid mouth shut about updates, OR ?
What do you use?

Seem to have answered my own question. 1mobilemarket does the trick. Gives me the option to ignore app updates. That's all I needed.

None of Gapps work in here so there are always localized alternatives to each Gapps.

I deinstall gapps with an app with root access
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sketchman16 said:
It has just always been my default move to flash Gapps after a custom ROM flash. Reflex just like flashing SuperSU.
Lately I'm annoyed with it, though. There are some apps I don't want to update, ever. Using an app to remove the market link for an app works till you run the Play Store again, so it really doesn't work. Then you have to go through the apps one by one and update them instead of touching "Update All", or just remove the market link every time before you check for updates via Play. I suppose you could write a script that runs before the Play Store to do this automatically, but this is another annoyance rather than a fix IMHO. And you still get Play Services running the BG whenever it feels like it. Also something I don't like.
So, anybody not using Gapps at all on a DD device? And what are you using to get apps instead? I found androiddrawer.com to be pretty good, but any other full on "store" app seems to either not do enough of what Play Store does, or it does exactly what it does, and I don't want that, OR it's the Amazon "app store" which is just really stupid anymore.
So what I want is either an app store that gives me the option to leave an installed app alone forever and keep its stupid mouth shut about updates, OR ?
What do you use?
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I never install the gapps in the first place. I have a number of extracted apk files for those essential play store only apps, the rest is coming via the f-droid repository.

aparanoidpenguin said:
I never install the gapps in the first place. I have a number of extracted apk files for those essential play store only apps, the rest is coming via the f-droid repository.
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how to extract apk from Gapps?

I went back to Gapps, unfortunately. F-droid does not have all I normally use, and they really need to have the option to ignore updates. Androiddrawer.com is an OK alternative, but not really ideal.
Think what I'll do it setup a dummy device in an emulator with Gapps installed to keep updated apks on tap and then I can cherry pick what I want with my real devices. Keeps data usage down to a minimum and lets me get rid of Gapps on my real devices. Wish there was a nicer way.

Actually, we here in Indonesia have some alternative app stores, but all of them aren't a replacement of Play Store.
Some of them are carrier-dependent for some features, like Gudang Aplikasi that their IAP only available to XL Axiata users and TemanDev and WePlay where their IAP only available for Telkomsel users.
Another app stores, like web-based JalanTikus and 9Apps, or Baidu Indonesia's MoboMarket.
These app stores' app lists were incomplete and no IAPs like Play Store has. So why Indonesians are using these app stores altogether with Play Store.
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I'd like to get rid of gapps but I have one paid app that require the play store authenticator to run :/

Bliss OS no Google Play Services

How can i download and install app from Google Play Store ?
at this time i use Bliss-v11.4-Stable--OFFICIAL-20181223-2005_x86_64_k-kernel-4.19_m-18.3.1_pie-x86_f-dev-kernel.org for my laptop.

We clearly state in the Bliss OS thread that Google Play Store is not available and that Bliss OS only comes with FDroid & microG.

So how do we install gapps if we have paid apps we need to use? there appears to be no recovery to install it in the usual way.. (or for that matter how can I stop google play services repeatedly crashing on the earlier nougat and oreo releases of BlissOS?)

No gapps. No go.
Without gapps android is not much use to most people (much as we would all love to ditch google). I understand its not available in BlissOS, I guess the question is: are there any plans to incorporate the ability to add it easily, a more prominent and clear explanation on the XDA home page would be useful. I keep revisiting BlissOS to check if its been added I'd like to know if I should give up and just look elsewhere for an android emulator? This project looks great but without the ability to add play store , software many people will have already bought in the play store since the decade or so its been around can't be used. That's a serious deal breaker..

thisweb said:
Without gapps android is not much use to most people (much as we would all love to ditch google). I understand its not available in BlissOS, I guess the question is: are there any plans to incorporate the ability to add it easily, a more prominent and clear explanation on the XDA home page would be useful. I keep revisiting BlissOS to check if its been added I'd like to know if I should give up and just look elsewhere for an android emulator? This project looks great but without the ability to add play store , software many people will have already bought in the play store since the decade or so its been around can't be used. That's a serious deal breaker..
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I totally agree

11.13 gsm has google play as does latest 14/ betas. You have a foss install.

madeiraantonio97 said:
I totally agree
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I'm with you guys until Bliss OS 14 on the the very latest release the Google Play store has worked at least help you guys don't even bundle browser what the hell is up with that I expect this kind of crap out of Circuit City on one of their phones that took to a chain but not that best Android operating system there is out for my system I mean you say after all but PlayStore was installed whenever I downloaded play some rest so I kind of expected it to at least log into my Google account I can't even log into my Google account I've been trying to get Bliss OS to work for ages I finally got a PC tool Boot It Up, all be it flawlessly, now all of a sudden it won't Run Google Play Store all of a sudden I had such a pain in the ass getting into work in the first place everything was all groovy until grub2win so bored my boot up somehow if I hadn't already had Bliss OS installed I would have had to manually try to figure out how to install it because there's no way to install the damn grub startup because when I try to run the installer for grub2win it says something about an autoit error and grub2win. EXE needs to be an object that happens when I try to install it uninstall it anyway that's not what we're talking about here I finally got to work ing setup by the grace of the Cyber gods a little bit of luck a little bit of ingenuity and some 1 0 10 duct tape why even advertise it is a the Google version if it's not going to have Google it'd be one thing if there was a simple way to just flip files onto it from Windows but there's not and even if there is I don't remember all those folders names right when I started Android for the first time on the new system especially when you put it into a blender with all the folders that you got to learn from gearlock either way what I'm saying is I agree and if you're not going to have at least the Google Play Store working it don't put a release out that supports the Google services just go all-out custom and then make an easy import export for the folders so you can sideload stuff easier and for god sakes put a browser in there so that you can at least download something if you don't have any other option. I spent two days trying to log my Google account in anywhere any account and email in the Play Store and I went and spent that much time had I known but every other version of bliss OS I had has been fine with Play Store so news to me if it's so public that you guys don't use Google Play Store you're doing a bad job of letting anybody know and sir I love your operating system so please don't take that too harshly. But I do second the notion that no PlayStore no Bliss it's a deal breaker at least without some other infrastructure in place.

FreQRiDeR said:
11.13 gsm has google play as does latest 14/ betas. You have a foss install.
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The latest 14.3 that is supposed to have Google Play Store does not. it has Google Play services but you can't log into any accounts so it's pretty much useless other than getting the desktop to come up and it continuously crashes like the Play services not the Bliss

Now that I'm done replying to everybody else's comments I will say that I just installed the 14.3 Alpha it may be a beta now not sure forgive me. It does have Google Play services and it does boo'd up and there are significant changes to the boot script that goes into grub which in a way I really like except for the fact that some of the variables are hidden in two other scripts that I don't know where they are I found some of them cuz I've been digging through those damn folders so much for a year I just happen to know where they are but if you could please come in and some of the grab scripts like where some of the things are that are replaced by variables I noticed you did some like small scrubbing and then referred back to other variable names which I like because all the technical jargon is hidden and it makes it easier to understand but at the same time I had to custom write my grub script because my bootloader or something is screwy in order to reference the Bliss OS install I had to go in and change the Android 64 references from a previous install and I really had some issues trying to find some of the variables that are referenced in the new Bliss OS grub script I think maybe a key might be helpful like where does variable names are put into play like where I can go back and see what they are but if you don't want to do that you know maybe some kind of skeleton index would be very helpful in general though I love what you did with the grub Scripts if it's not you shout out to the guys at gearlock cuz it might have been they're installer that did it. The only reason I updated to 14.3 was because I had an issue when I install 14.2 my bootloader or whatever grub get out and I was on a grub recovery screen no matter what I did once I got Windows to boot I tried to boot Bliss which is where I got all cozy with your grub Scripts and noticed that things such as the start up flags were all underneath one variable Nifty if you can find out where to change them at. But anyways I figured since I messed up the Majestic install on the last update and no matter what I did it would not even reinstall it fix it or update it hey why not just go install the new update of bliss I proceeded to follow the links that I found it online one was an asteroid download and the other was a Play Store download oh how happy I was when it finally booted up then I couldn't figure out damn why won't it sign into my Google account followed by Play Services crashing repeatedly how do you fix it I don't know let's Google it no browser okay but sound like a browser oh put it into gear lock folder back to Windows where's the gear lock folder oh there's the gear lock folder it's been about 10 minutes what was I doing oh yeah oh yeah browser got to f****** find a goddamn APK you know one that's not riddled with viruses and malware okay maybe this will work back to Android in the gear lock folder so it's not there maybe they meant gear load back forth 20 minutes later nope that didn't work either oh after a while I dig and I figure out there's more than one gearload and more than one gearlock two copies of Firefox and an hour later still no browser you see what I'm getting at "FIX the PLAY STORE" it would have been easier to ADB it in I'm sure, the only reason I didn't do that is cuz wait a minute that extra layer of Wi-Fi network and I'm sure it would have have been a pain in the ass just as bad I mean I saw the little tutorial on what the ADB address was but you should just left a little picture of a bomb cuz we know that she would have b e e n a pain in the ass the hay known what I know now that's where I would have started and microG and asteroid that's a freaking joke for somebody that wants their system to work that one little Play services constantly crashing is nothing compared to the 50 that you're going to get with micro G & F Droid.

Google Play Services work perfectly fine on 14.3 if you go to Settings => Apps, locate the Google Play Services app, click it, then click the 3 vertical dot menu and restore Google Play Services to the original version. Then go to Google Play Store and disable auto-updates. I've been there too having Google Play Services constantly crashing every 30 seconds or so with no possibility to log in anywhere. After resetting to the original version this particular problem has been fixed. Play Store works, I can login into my Account.

The two browsers that work on 14.3 are Firefox and DuckDuckGo. Chrome and Opera crash on startup.

stepanrumyantsev said:
Google Play Services work perfectly fine on 14.3 if you go to Settings => Apps, locate the Google Play Services app, click it, then click the 3 vertical dot menu and restore Google Play Services to the original version. Then go to Google Play Store and disable auto-updates. I've been there too having Google Play Services constantly crashing every 30 seconds or so with no possibility to log in anywhere. After resetting to the original version this particular problem has been fixed. Play Store works, I can login into my Accounbecat.
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thats not working here 5 seconds after i boot for the first time its not updated and if it is really dragging its ass to log in i dont reall think its gonna let me change any settings and i dont think its gonna let me log in. granted i can revert it but that setting is the very first thing i do on any android because i cant stand it when i had a working device and then google does its bs and f**ks all my apps right off the bat so i dont think thats the issue it never had a chance to update. but in all fairness ill look again and if i find myself here again i will feedback. Thank you for your suggestion.

Walter Bishop said:
thats not working here 5 seconds after i boot for the first time its not updated and if it is really dragging its ass to log in i dont reall think its gonna let me change any settings and i dont think its gonna let me log in. granted i can revert it but that setting is the very first thing i do on any android because i cant stand it when i had a working device and then google does its bs and f**ks all my apps right off the bat so i dont think thats the issue it never had a chance to update. but in all fairness ill look again and if i find myself here again i will feedback. Thank you for your suggestion.
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Well, I forgot one important step - before clicking the three dots and reverting the Google Play Services app to the initial state you have to stop/disable it altogether in the same dialog. You have the options to Disable and Force Stop it. Just disable. A lot of things like Google Play Store, Calendar whatever relies on Google Play Services will start crashing, disable these apps too. Revert the Google Play Services to the original state, enable Google Play Store back and stop auto-updates in Google Play Store.
I had exactly the same problem and this solution has worked perfectly fine for me. As a matter of fact I was able to login to Google Play Store and download many apps. Half of them didn't work but it least I got a Web Browser - Firefox and DuckDuckGo are the only one that functioned - and a book reader.
Thank you!

The problem that I am facing doing your solution is there isnt any 3 dot menu like on other apps

I can't believe they didn't fix Gapps yet? I did the trick of downgrading Google Play Services and it worked but My BlissOS got corrupted and I can't re enable Gapps! Tried reinstalling, downgrading. Even google browser does not work! Totally useless! V14.3 And how do you dl 15? I did correct terminal commands creating logblahhblahh.text on sdacard and no dl link!?! Come on Bliss team. Get it together!

FreQRiDeR said:
I can't believe they didn't fix Gapps yet? I did the trick of downgrading Google Play Services and it worked but My BlissOS got corrupted and I can't re enable Gapps! Tried reinstalling, downgrading. Even google browser does not work! Totally useless! V14.3 And how do you dl 15? I did correct terminal commands creating logblahhblahh.text on sdacard and no dl link!?! Come on Bliss team. Get it together!
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someone still stuck on 14.3 ???

I don't need Google Services.

Yeah, so after breaking my head trying to upgrade I finally did it via Dload. Gapps were lost so I decided to give it a try without them.
For YouTube I use Youtube Vanced, just install Micro G from their website and Login, then install YT vanced and you are good to go.
Maps work without login in, Gmail you can access it via the stock email.
So I really don't need any Google services more.
For downloading apps I'm using Aurora Store which is very very good and all apps are there.
I'm now on. 176 Oct security patch with no Gapps. Amd I'm doing incredibly well. Maybe you guys can too.

atrix_noob said:
Yeah, so after breaking my head trying to upgrade I finally did it via Dload. Gapps were lost so I decided to give it a try without them.
For YouTube I use Youtube Vanced, just install Micro G from their website and Login, then install YT vanced and you are good to go.
Maps work without login in, Gmail you can access it via the stock email.
So I really don't need any Google services more.
For downloading apps I'm using Aurora Store which is very very good and all apps are there.
I'm now on. 176 Oct security patch with no Gapps. Amd I'm doing incredibly well. Maybe you guys can too.
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@atrix_noob you are absolutely right I recommend the same because 1- and to install them after a lot of effort something will not work properly and you do not know how much it will work! 2- since everything is done with the above that you mention and 70% of the applications go through and are installed just fine in the system and everything works properly. In fact, there is life without Google play

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@atrix_noob you are absolutely right I recommend the same because 1- and to install them after a lot of effort something will not work properly and you do not know how much it will work! 2- since everything is done with the above that you mention and 70% of the applications go through and are installed just fine in the system and everything works properly. In fact, there is life without Google play
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Agree, I'm using my phone the way I use it every day even wihtout gapps so it's very normal.

Im using it that way since day one. If u need some apps that require gms install VMOS Pro.