Hello,
I hope this is good subforum for this post.
So I have this brand new Huawei P40 Lite and I want to use google services. Of course these doesn't work. But I have access to an older Huawei mobile phone which has google services all working perfectly and legally. Can I just copy this data from old device to P40 Lite? Official software allow to do that once you start it for the first time, but will google services work? I just want google store with all apps working and certified, maps, chrome, yt. I don't need google pay.
Hi you wont be able to run google play store, u can use a alternative Auora Store for apps. Then Youtube you can use youtube Vanced. Then if you need maps download Waze from Auora Store
any tutorial for instal google service ?? some apps tell me if you want use this apps you need google servie.
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Hi,
I have just bought a p40 lite running Build 10.1.0.301, Modell JNY-LX1
I have been trying to get google stuff on the phone for a while.
Dualspace seems to work ( download from web https://dualspace.en.uptodown.com/android) but is a little sketchy, need to clear the cache / restart phone often
VMOS pro (https://www.vmos.com/) also works but for some reason location doesn't work, so apps like strava are useless.
but it seems fairly stable
Using clone phone I got google maps working and some other things, so guess some of these you can download the apk off the web.
But so far no golden bullet.
I tried "chat partner" but get the no network error--- is there a fix for this, does this work?
I also tried bender007 's googlefier but so far I can't get through the first step of installing the alternative back up software. I guess the next step is to downgrade to another flash, but I'm afraid of bricking the phone.
Can anyone share some experience with this, it has to work as I am pretty sure my wife will kill me if I break this phone!
Another_NotReallyBob said:
Hi,
I have just bought a p40 lite running Build 10.1.0.301, Modell JNY-LX1
I have been trying to get google stuff on the phone for a while.
Dualspace seems to work ( download from web https://dualspace.en.uptodown.com/android) but is a little sketchy, need to clear the cache / restart phone often
VMOS pro (https://www.vmos.com/) also works but for some reason location doesn't work, so apps like strava are useless.
but it seems fairly stable
Using clone phone I got google maps working and some other things, so guess some of these you can download the apk off the web.
But so far no golden bullet.
I tried "chat partner" but get the no network error--- is there a fix for this, does this work?
I also tried bender007 's googlefier but so far I can't get through the first step of installing the alternative back up software. I guess the next step is to downgrade to another flash, but I'm afraid of bricking the phone.
Can anyone share some experience with this, it has to work as I am pretty sure my wife will kill me if I break this phone!
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Well look The p40 lite sucks without GMS. There is sadly like no way to get Google services working.. My experience is okay I use an app called Aurora store to get most of the Google play store apps.
AuroraOSS
I think the moment someone can root this phone that will be awesome. Then it means we can load a custom ROMand flash GMS.
Billabomb75 said:
Well look The p40 lite sucks without GMS. There is sadly like no way to get Google services working.. My experience is okay I use an app called Aurora store to get most of the Google play store apps.
AuroraOSS
I think the moment someone can root this phone that will be awesome. Then it means we can load a custom ROMand flash GMS.
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I haven't tried the Aurora store yet, but at least VMOS Pro and and dualspace are doing something.
Seems like the possibility to Brick the phone whilst downgrading is high having now read a couple of posts. I must admit I don't really understand the problem. I would have thought that it's more like installing linux on your computer in so far as you can screw up the installation of linux, but not the computer its self.
Is this something to do with the root access or a locked bootloader ?
Another_NotReallyBob said:
I haven't tried the Aurora store yet, but at least VMOS Pro and and dualspace are doing something.
Seems like the possibility to Brick the phone whilst downgrading is high having now read a couple of posts. I must admit I don't really understand the problem. I would have thought that it's more like installing linux on your computer in so far as you can screw up the installation of linux, but not the computer its self.
Is this something to do with the root access or a locked bootloader ?
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Yeah... Its to do with a locked bootloader. People try to root the phone with a locked bootloader then the phone bricks...
Billabomb75 said:
Yeah... Its to do with a locked bootloader. People try to root the phone with a locked bootloader then the phone bricks...
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But I don't want to root it, just downgrade it to see if the googlefier hack works. So why should it brick the phone? In my mind if I don't screw up the bootloader then I should always be able to flash back a good working version of android?
Another_NotReallyBob said:
But I don't want to root it, just downgrade it to see if the googlefier hack works. So why should it brick the phone? In my mind if I don't screw up the bootloader then I should always be able to flash back a good working version of android?
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Oh if you downgrade that is no problem.
Just make sure your Model number is correct and the C Varient. F.E C432
So quick update:
Dualspace works a bit, but after a few hours despite my best efforts of restarting and clearing the cache gmail stopped working.
So I downloaded HI suite and downgraded with the option they gave me, easy no probs, can't imagine how you could screw up your phone.
Then I did the googlefier I followed this video
It's useful because there are errors that pop up , and what bender007 writes, is not always exactly what happens. So any little doubts you might have that you are doing it wrong disappear.
Still took a couple of goes as I had to stop halfway to deal with some other stuff.... don't do that !
Do the whole thing in one go.
Now it is working, and as yet I have no errors , so let's see if it is still working tomorrow!
Another_NotReallyBob said:
So quick update:
Dualspace works a bit, but after a few hours despite my best efforts of restarting and clearing the cache gmail stopped working.
So I downloaded HI suite and downgraded with the option they gave me, easy no probs, can't imagine how you could screw up your phone.
Then I did the googlefier I followed this video
It's useful because there are errors that pop up , and what bender007 writes, is not always exactly what happens. So any little doubts you might have that you are doing it wrong disappear.
Still took a couple of goes as I had to stop halfway to deal with some other stuff.... don't do that !
Do the whole thing in one go.
Now it is working, and as yet I have no errors , so let's see if it is still working tomorrow!
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Welp i can't downgrade my phone........
It sucks.
Another_NotReallyBob said:
So quick update:
Dualspace works a bit, but after a few hours despite my best efforts of restarting and clearing the cache gmail stopped working.
So I downloaded HI suite and downgraded with the option they gave me, easy no probs, can't imagine how you could screw up your phone.
Then I did the googlefier I followed this video
It's useful because there are errors that pop up , and what bender007 writes, is not always exactly what happens. So any little doubts you might have that you are doing it wrong disappear.
Still took a couple of goes as I had to stop halfway to deal with some other stuff.... don't do that !
Do the whole thing in one go.
Now it is working, and as yet I have no errors , so let's see if it is still working tomorrow!
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I did everithing bi benders instructions downgrade, instalation by googlefire step by step and everithing works.
Upgraded to a newer Version of emui and everithing is OK except the notification on some apps. Hope someone has the solution for that!
just look for gsmzambia on youtube. They will help you without stressing too much about hisuite and bricking your device
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i wanted to paste the guide here but xda is not accepting my doc formatting please see the guide here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13X_ZZELINL5jIJZTcpPDRsmIGQ7cYMy6nuahJQJ5DzE/
Nice guide - albeit I couldn't overlook the irony of using Google Docs here!
Nice document. For me though it's not really the Google apps that I can't substitue, I hardly use any anyway. It's mainly apps that don't work because of GMS.
i have to say that having had this phone for a few days and trying to use it without play services it was becoming a struggle for me.
I downloaded as many of my apps i use from the app store and 3rd party sites but its just not the same. I forgot how much information i had stored with google like passwords and login details etc.
I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.
hpsauce37 said:
I managed to install the play services yesterday and so far everything seems fine, no errors and everything i used on other android devices available and working. Dont think i would have kept it otherwise even though the build quality and specs are amazing.
For those of you in doubt who have been a long time android user its really worth the effort with the installation.
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Which guide did you follow? I see one on XDA and other ones floating around the web. Did you run into any issues or did the guide works step by step?
I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.
Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS
rambits said:
Search an app called 'MoreAPP' in AppGalary, it has the apps you are missing.
there is one called 'Youtube Vanced' which doesn't require GMS
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But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced
ptlsajan said:
But you won't be able to sign in without gms in YouTube vanced
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You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.
steveli92 said:
You can sign into YouTube Vanced without GMS. You just need to install MicroG. Not root required too.
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I tried that with OGyoutube and login in with microg service wasnt possible for me
hpsauce37 said:
I followed the one on here which does not use a usb you plug in the phone. The video is in German and a but hard to follow at times and did face a few issues but I think that was because I had missed a step. I then found a similar video on YouTube that had some English on it and managed to figure it out.
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I followed the same guide and everything but the notifications works. Only notifications from a few apps work. All apps that require the Google services to get the notifications (about 85% for me) do not seem to work.
I too didn't managed to login with MicroG and without GMS...
Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?
arsenal74 said:
Think it would be useful to update the list to include apps e.g. works 100% (Facebook) works ok but no notifications (BBC News) or does not work at all (eBay, The Athletic).
The more digging that I do the more it seems that other than getting some of the core Google apps to work the difference between using a P40 Pro with and without the GPS hack is actually quite minimal as I understand that the hack may help you say get Photos working but it will not help you get all of the notifications that still rely on GPS?
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It's funny that you mentioned eBay and The Athletic as they are two apps that I use quite regularly and am having the same issue - is there any way around this without installing GMS?
My P40 Pro only arrived a couple of days ago and I really like the look and feel of it but the notifications thing is already bugging me. Currently, I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...
Tmel14 said:
I'm only HMS (no micro-G or GMS) but not being able to get notifications from the stock email app (my account is Gmail) or news notifications from BBC etc. is a real flag for me...
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install microG and move on .. notifications are completely screwed on HMS-naked .. even Huawei App Gallery apps are screwed-up with notifications .. very strange that this is often overlooked in the P40 Pro reviews ... how can you answer a skype call if the app never rings with a notification?
Yeah, so after breaking my head trying to upgrade I finally did it via Dload. Gapps were lost so I decided to give it a try without them.
For YouTube I use Youtube Vanced, just install Micro G from their website and Login, then install YT vanced and you are good to go.
Maps work without login in, Gmail you can access it via the stock email.
So I really don't need any Google services more.
For downloading apps I'm using Aurora Store which is very very good and all apps are there.
I'm now on. 176 Oct security patch with no Gapps. Amd I'm doing incredibly well. Maybe you guys can too.
atrix_noob said:
Yeah, so after breaking my head trying to upgrade I finally did it via Dload. Gapps were lost so I decided to give it a try without them.
For YouTube I use Youtube Vanced, just install Micro G from their website and Login, then install YT vanced and you are good to go.
Maps work without login in, Gmail you can access it via the stock email.
So I really don't need any Google services more.
For downloading apps I'm using Aurora Store which is very very good and all apps are there.
I'm now on. 176 Oct security patch with no Gapps. Amd I'm doing incredibly well. Maybe you guys can too.
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@atrix_noob you are absolutely right I recommend the same because 1- and to install them after a lot of effort something will not work properly and you do not know how much it will work! 2- since everything is done with the above that you mention and 70% of the applications go through and are installed just fine in the system and everything works properly. In fact, there is life without Google play
titanass said:
@atrix_noob you are absolutely right I recommend the same because 1- and to install them after a lot of effort something will not work properly and you do not know how much it will work! 2- since everything is done with the above that you mention and 70% of the applications go through and are installed just fine in the system and everything works properly. In fact, there is life without Google play
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Agree, I'm using my phone the way I use it every day even wihtout gapps so it's very normal.
Im using it that way since day one. If u need some apps that require gms install VMOS Pro.
So, I have not had to do any roms of apks in a few years.... so I have a few questions, please and thank you!!
Is there a rom that already has the playstore installed? So I can have gmail etc much easier with updates etc...
or am I better off installing indivual apk files for the apps I want? If so, where do I get legit apk files, current apk files....
I hope and assume, I can make this bell p40 pro... work like a normal android phone.
Thanks for your patience and please, let me know
I'm with Telus. Googlefier makes it easier to install Play Store, but keep in mind Google Pay will not work. You will also have to 'downgrade' your EMUI to v .131 to install Google services - follow this guide.
Now, to get EMUI updates working again, I had to force the update to .148. The updates kicked in and now I'm on EMUI 11. I'm not sure if Bell will operate the same, but I'm guessing this may be the case for you too.
Overall, things are working very well, but I do miss Google Pay. Android Auto works fine, and I'm able to restore all of my Google Play purchases. 'Hey Google' doesn't work, but Google Assistant does.
Hope that helps to start.
wyred4sound said:
I'm with Telus. Googlefier makes it easier to install Play Store, but keep in mind Google Pay will not work. You will also have to 'downgrade' your EMUI to v .131 to install Google services - follow this guide.
Now, to get EMUI updates working again, I had to force the update to .148. The updates kicked in and now I'm on EMUI 11. I'm not sure if Bell will operate the same, but I'm guessing this may be the case for you too.
Overall, things are working very well, but I do miss Google Pay. Android Auto works fine, and I'm able to restore all of my Google Play purchases. 'Hey Google' doesn't work, but Google Assistant does.
Hope that helps to start.
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ok, thanks for this information.
I did a quick way of installing dual space.... some things work good, some things do not work...
I will try your way!
So I downgraded emui no problem using hisuite...
I tried googlefier... but the playstore never opens or works.... I tried the fix, reboot.... followed the directions... but the store just opens and goes away... I even retired start to finsih. Any suggestions appreciated
Mr.Kakarot said:
So I downgraded emui no problem using hisuite...
I tried googlefier... but the playstore never opens or works.... I tried the fix, reboot.... followed the directions... but the store just opens and goes away... I even retired start to finsih. Any suggestions appreciated
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That sounds like you may have forgotten to open the LZ-Play app (with the Chinese text) an accepted everything. Check that first.
I got a few of questions regarding the current state of using Google services on the P40-series devices to make sure my understanding of the situation is up to date (I'm specifically using P40 Lite but my guess is all this applies to any P40 device):
What did I actually do to the phone currently? - I keep reading about multiple methods to get things working, mentioning freezes and other modifications, so I want to know what exactly I did myself. To get the phone working on my side, I went through a firmware downgrade, then installed Googlefier and went through the steps in it. Is this the freeze-thing that people mention or is it something completely different?
As far as I understand, we have currently only 2 options, would this be a correct way to describe them?:
Googlefier - to allow logging in Google accounts, use of Google apps however with non-working notifications (and notification delays)
MicroG - resolves all/almost all notification issues however no use of Google account/apps is possible
Updating the Google Play Services the normal way through Google Play Store is pretty much not possible, is that correct?
As far as I understand, if a factory reset is performed on a phone that previously had Googlefier installed and working, re-installing it will not require a firmware downgrade (only installing Googlefier and setting it up will be needed, not a whole downgrade again). If that is correct, is there a way to fully restore a stock firmware that would leave the phone in its factory state?
Any information or clarifications would definitely be welcome.
I just wanted to make sure the information I have is up to date since there are so many things floating around and a lot of them appear to be very outdated.
I have the same questions, I just bought a P40 pro, and don't really now what to do, to solve this problem
Gato.evolution said:
I have the same questions, I just bought a P40 pro, and don't really now what to do, to solve this problem
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I didn't ask anything regarding a problem, I just want to know what type of workaround the method I used was along with a few general questions, I'm not actually asking how to get something working (other than notifications in some apps, everything else is fine on my end).
So googlefier was a package of apps that simplified the process of downloading and installing multiple apks manually. The app that it came with is lzplay and it becomes a device admin.
I don't know much past that, but how did you get most notifications to work?
I just bought a P40 pro last week and working on exploring best option going forward too
Googlefier is actually a wrapper work which eventually uses LZPlay to get the job done. B/c of the limitations in LZPlay, people need to get P40 phones downgrade to an old firmware so that LZPlay could work - I find it not really possible as I couldn't find the correct firmware for my P40 pro now (maybe it's b/c of my region ... )
Then recently there is DualSpace, haven't tried it but looks like an easy go
It looks like a method of separating a new user/app space (sounds like a VM on a physical computer sort of concept ?)
Google actually has very similar thing called "work profile" I remember that can setup a personal as well as a work related dual accounts on same phone and the data space are separate also allows diff. security policies
Work profiles | Android Developers
Learn how to make sure your apps operate smoothly in a corporate environment by following some best practices.
developer.android.com
ykjae said:
So googlefier was a package of apps that simplified the process of downloading and installing multiple apks manually. The app that it came with is lzplay and it becomes a device admin.
I don't know much past that, but how did you get most notifications to work?
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No clue, they just work on my side, only did a downgrade followed by the Googlefier process and then update to the latest security patch.
Google Play Services version is highly out of date though (v20.09.13).
Anyway, could still use information on my original questions.
@CrisR82
I can tell you if you factory reset the device it would just wipe it. Which in theory should leave it at its current software firmware version. So no you wouldn't need to downgrade again. (Unless you upgraded after getting Google services to work)
I also got most of everything working perfectly now. But I decided to freeze gsf with icebox so I could get all notifications.
It's actually not bad. I was able to find all apps that I use on Huawei app store and if not I then use apkpure or aurora.
It seems Google maps doesn't work properly ever since I rooted my device I tried magisk hide I tried all kinds of different other methods but Google maps doesn't work ever since I got rude does anybody know why or do you have any suggestions does this happening to anybody else?
Check here
Repair your ASUS ROG Phone 5 with EDL mode
If your phone can only enter EDL mode (9008 mode) this firmware is glad to help you. It can be flashed in through the miflash tool. The firmware is made through the official package...
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chairman011 said:
It seems Google maps doesn't work properly ever since I rooted my device I tried magisk hide I tried all kinds of different other methods but Google maps doesn't work ever since I got rude does anybody know why or do you have any suggestions does this happening to anybody else?
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It works perfectly fine for me?
Maybe describing the issues in detail would help get the answer you need... an older version might work better.
Try uninstalling/reinstalling. Gmaps has been a mess for years now... the Swiss Army knife of maps that does everything, and nothing well.
Given time Google will perfect, then destroy their apps, even their OS.
Gmail reached its zenith 11 years ago.
Gmaps over 7 years ago.
Android, 2 years ago.
Picasso, Yeah... never mind
Use rooted google maps
My solution was I downgraded the Google maps app and it's working good now thank you for the advice guys very much appreciated
chairman011 said:
My solution was I downgraded the Google maps app and it's working good now thank you for the advice guys very much appreciated
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I always use the loaded factory versions of both Gmail and Gmaps. The Playstore updates screw them up. It's been like that for years...
Uninstall the one included with the phone or clear data for it (but don't disable it). Update to the newest one from Google Play, but also make sure Google Services is updated.
The preloaded versions are usually outdated and may have the wrong info (if you actually use it), but newer versions rely on the backend updates. It's been that way since Google Services became the dumping ground to support third-party apps.