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Hi All,
Having owned a Galaxy Nexus, and getting Jelly Bean some time ago, I was expecting a lot more from Jelly Bean on the Infinity when it came to interface fluidity. My Galaxy Nexus was a lot smoother - transitions and the notification menu especially.
But then I started to notice - in apps - the notification menu is actually very smooth, but not at the home screen. All transitions were still very slow however.
I had quite a bit of a play around and nothing seemed to improve the performance. Then I think I found something, and I want some people to sanity check me. I use Apex launcher (performance was still just as slow with the default launcher). In it's options, you can disable wallpaper completely (which you cannot do on the default launcher).
When I do this...I finally get the greatly improved fluidity I was expecting. It's not perfect, but the difference is huge.
Is anyone else able to confirm this? It seems strange. I was not using live wallpapers...just a static wallpaper. How much difference can a wallpaper make?
High resolution wallpaper can slow down performances due to pictures taking space on the RAM. Thus high definition pictures can take quite a bit of data ~10MB. Though that doesn't seem to be a lot...
Well I have tried using a smaller image, but I expect Android is up-scaling it to full resolution. The anmation was much less smooth. Once I disabled the wallpaper again, animations were smooth again.
Does anyone else use Apex, or a launcher that can disable the wallpaper to test this?
I just use a 1x1 pixel of black, pretty much "removes" the need to draw the wallpaper.
androidxen said:
I just use a 1x1 pixel of black, pretty much "removes" the need to draw the wallpaper.
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Did you notice a perceivable improvement in performance as a result of using that wallpaper? It seems likely that Android will stretch that 1x1 pixel out to fill a large canvas of black, which may not give any performance increase so I would be interested to know.
I would also like to know if I am the only one noticing this difference? Maybe no one else really cares about it except for me!
I use Apex Launcher Pro. I notice no difference whether I'm using wallpaper or not. Everything seems nice and smooth to me.
I would say you shouldn't expect to much from the Infinity. The Nexus 7, being a Nexus device, will always be faster than any other devices out there. The Infinity with it lousy flash storage and a full HD screen will never be able to catch up with the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 in terms of speed and fluidity.
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I would say you shouldn't expect to much from the Infinity. The Nexus 7, being a Nexus device, will always be faster than any other devices out there. The Infinity with it lousy flash storage and a full HD screen will never be able to catch up with the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7 in terms of speed and fluidity.
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I somewhat agree...it is certainly pushing a lot of pixels. So my expectations have not been too high. In fact, I have really been pleasantly surprised. However - for the most part - I don't believe the I/O limitations should be affecting this tablet that much. Obviously there will be some effect...the same issues I was seeing before are still present...but I still do expect some improvement from JB.
That said...I am actually seeing it...but only with the wallpaper disabled. This is what strikes me as odd...it is just a static background image...and it feels like a bug.
Maybe I should just keep it off and wait until Key Lime Pie?
Disabling unused apps and clearing their data helps a lot. If you cannot disable see if you can "uninstall updates" first after that you should be able to. If you're rooted like me you can disable even more stuff using Titanium BU.
The difference? Everything is loaded immediately on startup (i.e. no calender widget that takes 5 sec to show). Balanced mode feels like performance mode, I can go on.
rikc said:
Disabling unused apps and clearing their data helps a lot. If you cannot disable see if you can "uninstall updates" first after that you should be able to. If you're rooted like me you can disable even more stuff using Titanium BU.
The difference? Everything is loaded immediately on startup (i.e. no calender widget that takes 5 sec to show). Balanced mode feels like performance mode, I can go on.
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What benefit is clearing a disabled app's data? My typical method for disabling something is to "freeze" it with TiBU and skip the OS menus altogether. Is there some additional benefit I could gain by clearing the frozen app's data too?
I was one of the people having slowness issues with their device but a couple of days later i figured it out. I went into the settings - apps - running and cached apps list. My ram was down to 100MB at some points. The 1GB of ram doesnt seem to be enough but we need to make due with what we got. So i installed Autostarts and disabled all the startup apps and any other apps i dont need when i change wifi state and all that other useless stuff. Google+ would run almost every 2 seconds, Maps aswell. So i disabled those apps from running at bootup and such. Now my available RAM is at 400MB constantly and it is running crazy fast. Opening the recent apps list and clearing those apps is super fast now. Also disabled some of the animation effects that jelly bean puts in. I personally am more concerned with performance then quality.
I noticed every app has notifications turned on by default (settings/apps). I don't know if it matters but I've been turning it off on everything I don't use notifications with.
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I somewhat agree...it is certainly pushing a lot of pixels. So my expectations have not been too high. In fact, I have really been pleasantly surprised. However - for the most part - I don't believe the I/O limitations should be affecting this tablet that much. Obviously there will be some effect...the same issues I was seeing before are still present...but I still do expect some improvement from JB.
That said...I am actually seeing it...but only with the wallpaper disabled. This is what strikes me as odd...it is just a static background image...and it feels like a bug.
Maybe I should just keep it off and wait until Key Lime Pie?
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I kinda laugh when I hear that it is pushing a lot of pixels so that's why it isn't smooth.... take the iPad 3 for example higher resolution, crappier specs and crappy iOS but it runs so smooth that it makes me want to trade in my infinite for it. I will have to jailbrake it to be able to do what I like but the experience will be better.... was just playing around with my friends iPad 3 and **** did I get me tinking.....
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I kinda laugh when I hear that it is pushing a lot of pixels so that's why it isn't smooth.... take the iPad 3 for example higher resolution, crappier specs and crappy iOS but it runs so smooth that it makes me want to trade in my infinite for it. I will have to jailbrake it to be able to do what I like but the experience will be better.... was just playing around with my friends iPad 3 and **** did I get me tinking.....
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Dude, you should seriously do some homework on Anandtech to say that the iPad 3 has crappier specs. In term of SoCs and graphic performance, the A5X chip in the iPad 3 is the most powerful SoC on a tablet right now, even the upcoming Snapdragon S4 Pro is unable to compete with it. I don't have much love for Apple, but we need to consider facts. If you consider raw computing power, Tegra 3 is even behind the iPad 2. In order to drive that many pixels on the iPad 3, Apple had to include a humongous SoC as well as much bigger battery, which explains why the iPad 3 is thicker and takes longer to charge. For your information, Tegra 3 is still stuck with single-channel memory while the rest of the industry have moved on to dual-channel memory early this year (look at Snapdragon S4, Exynos 4, OMAP 4)
As much as I dislike the current situation, there is not much of a competition going on right now with SoC. Currently, on the tablet front, Apple has the most powerful SoC on the market (A5X). On the phone side, the A6 chip is also the most powerful SoC on a phone as well. I am severely disappointed at Qualcomm and nVidia for failing behind Apple so far on this front. Not much is known about Tegra 4, but they'd better bring some Kepler to it, otherwise nVidia will become irrelevant.
Every year I upgrade to the latest S series device. But I end up getting bored and honestly want something different in between. I'm highly considering getting the one plus 7 pro because of the new 90hz 6.7 display . Anyone make the switch from the S10+ and regret it? I used to love the idea of rooting and custom roms so that might be a nice touch to keep me interested in the device. Just wanted some opinions, the note 10+ also has my attention because of ufs3.1 and the slightly tweaked cameras. Price isn't really a factor
I did and haven't looked back...
More freedom and less bloatware
Don't upgrade from S10+, because it's the same processor. Wait until next year to get a phone with a X55 5G modem (better than this year's X50 5G).
Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
I bit the bullet and ordered one. Yes I realize it had the same basic specs, and I can live with the features I'll be losing. Worse case scenario I keep the S10+ and sell the 7 Pro. I'm praying the display is close to par with the AMOLED screen, and the larger screen size will be a bonus too. I'm expecting the software and the fluentness to impress me. Anyone know if there's a way to disable the volume slider though, not a fan of the physical slider.
90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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However, should you move from an S10+ to this
I'm not too sure about that. Unless it's an even trade or you throw in like 50 bucks towards it stay where you are.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Just Compare Pes 2019 on high settings on both exynos & sd. You'll know the difference. Regarding 90 hz I can say that after using this Device If I scroll in App Drawer in my Xs Max I can literally see the icons stuttering or dragging.
Screen Doesn't gets as bright but it is comparable to iPhone on natural mode. I would suggest OP if he's using a SD S10 he should stick with it. Also I would suggest to Uninstall the Netflix app pre installed,If You Don't want dark videos
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90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
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Apparently, running at 90Hz slightly decreases graphical performance on the OnePlus 7 Pro.
Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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No it doesnt. There app not optimize for 90hz,. Just like benchmarking apps which even if un have 90hz will run the 3d games a 60hz... Now use the mod of forcing 90hz on everything. By the way. I get 9hour sot forcing 90hz all time and 1440p (qhd). I hear people complaining that it drain ur battery. Like if 90hz u will only get 2 hour sot. .. if 9hour sot with 90hz on is not good enough. I really know no what are people expecting
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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This is absolutely correct. Anything else is like saying "Concorde is a faster plane than a spitfire" - they're NOT comparable!
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As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I was unaware that Snapchat had dedicated cameras on either the S10+ *OR* the OnePlus 7 Pro. I stopped bothering to read after that statement!
I didn't like the s10+ and I switched to Op7 pro.
Another planet imho, I really enjoy this phone and I never miss my s10+, cameras too.
Exynos s10+ is garbage imho, really not such a good device as review tell.
OP7 pro beats/pair s10+ in everything in my daily use, and this is my first OnePlus phone...Never going back to Samsung honestly!
Sreen is so better on op7 pro in my opinion, never liked the s10+ screen because of reduced blue light filter.
Oh, and vibration. Dude, really? The vibration on op7 pro is gorgeous...
Warp charge destroy s10+ exynos charge time, and battery is similar but op7 pro doesn't consume so much on standby and when using camera.
My op7 pro never get hot when I'm using it.
Just some random thoughts...
Love this phone!
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Another positive OnePlus 7Pro review today...
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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bruh..i mean i get it, some are fanboys and like their brand, but honestly... 90hz is definately noticable if you dont see it you just wont accept that something beats your loved phone somewhere
and the exynos samsung phones are just not worth the price, the processor is just garbage compared to the sd variants (compared a note 9 with exynos with s9 with sd and s9 was better in nearly every way)
anyway back to the topic:
samsung phones have more, if not all features you want or need, like if you already have a samsung device (watch eg) it makes sense to stay with samsung because it seems to function just better, but if you want a clean smooth experience just grab a op7 pro and feel good
Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
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Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
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Please go here for what you need.
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Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Yeah, the very notable difference for this phone is it's cheap price for it's spec.
For some people, 3.5mm jack together with microSD is better.
And something different from the Redmi Note 7 Pro that you didn't told is the UFS 3.1 internal storage. This makes read/write very fast. So for photos and games, it's faster. That's also the reason other than the SOC that makes it very smooth and snappy.
I had a Nokia 7 Plus for about two years before and the X3 Pro is a rocket by comparison. I also thought about getting the Note 10 Pro for a while, but the "bad" SoC put me off. OLED is of course nice to have, but without a real always-on display it is of little use in my opinion. In any case, I am more than satisfied with the X3 Pro in all respects. MIUI and all the bloatware is an evil abomination if you were only used to Vanilla Android before, but thanks to ADB you can fix a lot.
I switched from Moto G5 Plus and I find this phone much better in almost every aspect, except size
I don't care much about photo quality, they are good enough for me.
Screen seems to be dimmer than on my old Moto. Colors are ok, I like that it supports reading mode without relying on third party apps. I don't need smooth animations so 60Hz is enough for me.
Storage - I had to buy model with bigger storage as I need dual sim active all the time.
Audio quality on headphones (cable and BT) is very good.
Battery (after playing with location settings to stop drain) life is satisfying. Charging is super fast.
Performance - I don't play games that requires all that power so for every day use I find it outstanding.
Ocassionally I need to calibrate location (?) sensors in some apps, might need to find more permanent solution.
Hey there, here is a complete comparison of benchmark scores of the Poco X4 Pro
I will be comparing between Stock Miui and an Unofficial Evolution X Rom
Antutu Benchmark
Miui - 355k - 380k
Unofficial AOSP (Evolution X) - 390k - 410k
I think i can say that they didn't bother with cheating Antutu scores as it's supposedly banned by Google?
CPU throttle test
Miui - 91-93%
Unofficial AOSP (Evolution X) - 92-94%
I'll consider the CPU throttle test a tie as it's pretty similiar and the difference may have been caused by temperature changes in my area
Geekbench 5
Miui - Single Core 695, Multi core 2077
Cheated Unofficial AOSP (Evolution X) - Single Core 667, Multi core - 1936
by cheated scores i meant i put my cpu and gpu frequencies to max with performance governors and thermals to extremely less agressive
Don't understand how Miui still took the win
Now for some actual testing
Scores don't really matter, what really matters is overall smoothness
I tried Genshin Impact on the lowest possible settings and here's the average fps for both
Miui - 31.7 fps
Unofficial AOSP (Evolution X) - 43.2 fps
Overall AOSP rom feels much much more smoother in pretty much everything
Here are the 2 images of geekbench scores
First is Stock Miui
Second is Cheated AOSP
Keep in mind it only says ZTE in AOSP because of a Dolby Atmos magisk module I've installed, else it's the same
Idk about cheating but I do see that the x4 pro seems to preform worse than the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g consistently in performance tests. I get around 35 fps in genshin in mondstat area. Liyue lagged a bit but I haven't run around much in it. If I stay still in the heart of Liyue I get around 40fps. This is btw on stock ootb miui. Apex legends is also capped at 40fps. Outside of genshin I haven't seen any game lag whatsoever. Even dragon raja runs well.
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Idk about cheating but I do see that the x4 pro seems to preform worse than the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g consistently in performance tests. I get around 35 fps in genshin in mondstat area. Liyue lagged a bit but I haven't run around much in it. If I stay still in the heart of Liyue I get around 40fps. This is btw on stock ootb miui. Apex legends is also capped at 40fps. Outside of genshin I haven't seen any game lag whatsoever. Even dragon raja runs well.
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i tested the above in the Inazuma city area so yeah the fps difference is reasonable the Inazuma city area has a ton of stuff to load
sadly even after managing to unlock 60 fps in apex the fps dips during gun fights are very noticable
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i tested the above in the Inazuma city area so yeah the fps difference is reasonable the Inazuma city area has a ton of stuff to load
sadly even after managing to unlock 60 fps in apex the fps dips during gun fights are very noticable
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I've never seen a single dip. Constant 40 maintained. Seems whatever liquid cool technology they used in the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g works along with the tuning. Q
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I've never seen a single dip. Constant 40 maintained. Seems whatever liquid cool technology they used in the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g works along with the tuning. Q
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Hmm this is weird
I got another person saying that they don't really see dips in the Redmi Note 11 pro plus 5g but pretty much everyone with poco agrees that everyone has performance dips
there really might be something different in the devices afterall...
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Idk about cheating but I do see that the x4 pro seems to preform worse than the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g consistently in performance tests. I get around 35 fps in genshin in mondstat area. Liyue lagged a bit but I haven't run around much in it. If I stay still in the heart of Liyue I get around 40fps. This is btw on stock ootb miui. Apex legends is also capped at 40fps. Outside of genshin I haven't seen any game lag whatsoever. Even dragon raja runs well.
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rooting and spoofing device model with GLTools will allow higher fps settings ingame and you can reach 60 in apex legends.
seedlord said:
rooting and spoofing device model with GLTools will allow higher fps settings ingame and you can reach 60 in apex legends.
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I don't mind 40. Its buttery smooth. Especially since I can maintain constant 40 with dips only when loading in assets for the first time in a match.
I've seen that it's relatively low powered compared to the competition, but I also own the iPhone 14 pro Max which has the must powerful mobile chip known to man and my findings are that it feels just as fast, possibly faster sometimes due to snappier animations, at least it seems that way to me personally.
When comparing opening times for graphic intensive games and such, of course the iPhone wins but in day to day use, it feels like commonly used apps open as fast or faster and are generally really smooth, definitely not underpowered.
I haven't really used the cameras too much but it does look like the chip does a great job at processing the photos from the average camera hardware.
I like the autotranslate stuff that it can do.
What are your thoughts and findings?
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Additionally, off topic kinda, as much as apple use super high quality components for ram, having double ram in this phone than the iPhone is very noticeable too! No app reload problems whatsoever on this! They're rare in the iPhone but they happen and often at annoying times.
Additionally (2), iPhone is awesome but the Pixel is winning meo ver in many ways.
It's not Tegra, it's Tensor.
I do agree with your performance rundown though. Coming from a OnePlus 9 with a processor that's superior on paper, I have been quite happy with the Pixel 7 Pro, as it has none of the random lags and frame rate drops that plagued the OnePlus 9. The cameras are MUCH better as well.
Don't get me started on how awful the OnePlus 9 was with RAM management. Sometimes I couldn't even log in to sites because I would switch apps to get my 2FA code and the web page would reload. Thankfully, none of that here. In fact I'm rather amazed sometimes when I leave an app and come back 12 hours later and it's still running despite me doing a ton of stuff inbetween.
EtherealRemnant said:
It's not Tegra, it's Tensor.
I do agree with your performance rundown though. Coming from a OnePlus 9 with a processor that's superior on paper, I have been quite happy with the Pixel 7 Pro, as it has none of the random lags and frame rate drops that plagued the OnePlus 9. The cameras are MUCH better as well.
Don't get me started on how awful the OnePlus 9 was with RAM management. Sometimes I couldn't even log in to sites because I would switch apps to get my 2FA code and the web page would reload. Thankfully, none of that here. In fact I'm rather amazed sometimes when I leave an app and come back 12 hours later and it's still running despite me doing a ton of stuff inbetween.
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RAM management is what I hated the most about the OP9 Pro. Closing a bunch of background stuff to give the illusion of efficiency and battery life drove me crazy.
My Pixel 5 (SD765G) always felt snappy and certainly didnt feel slower than the Oneplus 7T (SD855+) it replaced so Tensor not being top of the heap is no problem whatsoever, in the real world you just wont notice even if benchmarks make it look like a snail.
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RAM management is what I hated the most about the OP9 Pro. Closing a bunch of background stuff to give the illusion of efficiency and battery life drove me crazy.
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Oh yeah it was insanely frustrating, especially because my OnePlus 9 didn't have the most amazing battery despite the heavy RAM management!
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RAM management is what I hated the most about the OP9 Pro. Closing a bunch of background stuff to give the illusion of efficiency and battery life drove me crazy.
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It's called the iPhone philosophy. The multi-tasking of Apple phones is absolute toilet, then people bang on about the battery life that results from the aggressive background app management. Yup, but at what cost?
MrBelter said:
My Pixel 5 (SD765G) always felt snappy and certainly didnt feel slower than the Oneplus 7T (SD855+) it replaced so Tensor not being top of the heap is no problem whatsoever, in the real world you just wont notice even if benchmarks make it look like a snail.
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It's crazy! It feels way faster than my iPhone which has the most powerful mobile chip known to man, the only reason I'm not switching over to have the pixel as my main phone is because the iPhone is linked to all my other devices like Mac and iPad.... But, dang, I'm totally won over by this device!