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First I wanna start by saying that I love what this phone represents. I actually love Xiaomi as a company for a while now... I love what they’re doing, I love their hardware, and I really love their innovations (in regards especially, to the Mi Mix series). I’m not bashing Xiaomi here, but just trying to share my experience and have an open discussion.
Gonna be upfront, I’m writing this post on the iPhone 8 Plus. Long story short, it’s a gift and I’ve actually had the iPhone X in the past (before I got the Redmi Note 5).
As a general package, the Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 is very impressive. It does everything fairly okay. And I think that’s my main problem with it. I’m the type of person that needs a phone to do only a few things, but do them VERY well. And this phone just doesn’t, unfortunately...
It has a big edge to edge screen, but it’s just not bright enough for using in the summer and its viewing angles are not good. I don’t know if the Canadian sun is acting up this year, but I can’t see much when the sun is out. It was so frustrating during my recent long road trips.
The battery is absolutely amazing. I’ve never used a phone with battery this good. If the only thing you need in a phone is battery life, please get this phone without even thinking twice. FYI, I’ve had the iPhone X, Galaxy Note 8, LG V20, Redmi Note 3, Galaxy Note 5, and many more...
The speaker is... okay. I don’t use the headphone jack or the IR blaster. The Bluetooth is not good. My headphones cut off all the time when I turn my head (Jaybird X3). This doesn’t happen with other phones. The camera is very decent.
My main issue with the phone, however, is that it lags. Stock Rom, custom rom, it just lags. All the reviews praised the Snapdragon 636, but I got what I paid for here. On top of that, if you try to use the phone when it’s charging you’re in for a frustrating experience. It REALLY lags. Now, this may be my unit, ok. But I have no way of knowing that. Coming from the iPhone X, I was excited to use MIUI overall and the navigation gestures specifically in MIUI 9.5 or 10 beta. They suck. You can’t use it. I mean, it lags beyond anything acceptable with the gestures. If they can’t make it work properly, why release it? I don’t get it... Is this the fault of android? Probably. But customers shouldn’t care. I don’t think it’s the processor or the RAM. Because from what I’ve seen, similar lag behaviour happens on the Mi 8. It also happens on their new tablet? Just to be clear, every android phone I’ve owned in the past had some lag issues, even the Galaxy Note 8. I’m starting to think that no matter how much you pay and what phone you get, android is just a lag factory after one week... I’m a bit confused as to why the reviews of this device don’t mention the problems I’ve raised.
Does the iPhone 8 Plus/X lags? Yes. But only like a few times a day, maybe. You forget about it. I wish iOS had Picture in Picture with YouTube and all the customizations of android, but at least it’s a joy to use overall. And YouTube Red plays in the background, even with the screen off, which definitely helps. But god damn it, why can I only have four apps in the dock?! That’s just plain dumb...
All I’m basically saying here is that after using a budget device, I was willing to pay more than twice the amount just in order to get a better experience on the phone itself. Was about to pull the trigger and get a OnePlus 6, but got the iPhone 8 Plus as a gift instead. I’m not saying the iPhone should be compared here, obviously. Was also contemplating on getting the Xiaomi Mi 8, but after my experience I was a bit scared that many issues I had are MIUI related... Like, you can’t even change the lock screen to be a live wallpaper. Even on iOS you can do that. Come on... The camera is actually cute. But the official MIUI ROM that came with the phone, it took about 5 seconds to open the camera app. Are they for real? This was official firmware, I don’t understand this.
If you survived this long post please tell me, (1) did you have the same experience as I did? Should I give this phone another chance? (2) What about the Mi 8? Care to share if you own one? (3) Should I have gone with the OnePlus 6 to have a corrective experience?
In terms of lagging there is something wrong with your phone. I have 240 apps and it is superspeedy. I am on 9.5.17.
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juvjunior said:
In terms of lagging there is something wrong with your phone. I have 240 apps and it is superspeedy. I am on 9.5.17.
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I'm with the same setup. Even more apps, like 300+ and no lag at all! Love my RN5 Global! Such a great device and outstanding battery life!
No lags here as well. Sometimes Facebook messager "chat bubbles" tend to lag when opening (but never when closing for some reason). Phone is fast and fluid, holds battery very well and even PUBG on HD wasn't able to make it hot (it was barely warm)
Camera is decent but its a budget device. C"Mon
Viewing angles aren't great but it doesn't bother me at all. Speaker is very good and loud . I"m very happy with my whyred
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I experience lag navigating on MIUI aswell, just update to the lastest version. About lags I feel none! Also the screen seems way too bright for me, brighter than any other device I've been in contact with and also the darkest. Speaker, well, it's a cheap phone, they had to cut somewhere. About bluetooth I don't have an opinion, I'm still a 3.5 jack man.
Seriously, you are comparing it to the Iphone 8 / X ?
Wow, there is a huge price difference, I am using Redmi note 5 Global, doesn't experience any lag
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Seriously, you are comparing it to the Iphone 8 / X ?
Wow, there is a huge price difference, I am using Redmi note 5 Global, doesn't experience any lag
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Wasn’t really making a direct comparison, there is none of course. More of making the point that ANY android phone I’ve had (and this includes Custom Roma and Kernels) has some lag issues. And this doesn’t trickle down well to the budget range at all. And it’s strange that I’m noticing this on any phone I’ve had, including the iPhones. But people say they have zero? It’s just strange... maybe we’re defining lag differently?
My old screen guard lowered my max brightness, I got a better one and now I have better sunlight legibility...
Don't know about miui, but I've never had lag issues except when I underclock the cpu and GPU while playing heavy games...
using Redmi Note 5 AI (China）here with MIUI 10 8.7.5 Beta and no lags. Was previously on MIUI 9.5 nd had no lags or problems with it
either.
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Change your unit. (And/or) Upgrade it to miui 9.5.17
Its fluid...Maybe you have a different definition of lag.
Most probably you got ripped off or some shiet.
Overall device performance is buttery smooth and can give you ATLEAST 24-30 fps animation.
Screen can get hella bright (even for indian standards) and very dark aswell.
Good luck to you.
Everything you experienced is completely opposite to what I experience in my rn5p. It works great, brightness is good enough, lags? Nope. Nope. Nope.
Something might be wrong with your device..
No issue on my device as well. Something wrong with your device or one of the all you use is malware.
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lt's Pretty Clear To Me...
You Just Prefer An iPhone...
It's As Simple As That For You. :angel:
When I Can Buy FOUR Redmi 5 Pro's For The Price of ONE i8 Or X That Can Perform At The Level A Redmi 5 Pro Can....
It's A "No-Brainer"
It's As Simple As That For Me.
I have issues with the bluetooth audio as well. Any solution? Lags? Nope. Experienced app crashes sometimes and minor bugs that's it.
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Using RN5 Pro AI here in Saudi Arabia with none of these issues. Bluetooth is working fine , decent range and sound quality with my Sennheiser HD 4.40 headphones. Had to root to enable AptX streaming though.
Everything you're saying is true.
I feel the phone is laggy as ****. Every xiaomi i've owned (RN4 and RN5 and a Mi5) have lagged. Comparing, even the Mi5, to my last non-xioami phone(Huawei P9), RN5 is laggy as fu*k. They are using bad screens that tend to ghost a little and makes everything seems laggy. But that isn't the only problem, the main problem is the software. I can't understand how Xiaomi is one of the best phone company(money-wise) but their software is garbage. They somehow tend to just break everything for no reason. Qualcomm gives them everything to make a good phone and they fu*k everything with their *****y software/drivers/blobs/everything.
my old nexus 5 feels smoother.
I agree on the brightness part but lag? I don't have noticable lag at all and the navigation gestures are fluent. but I experienced horrible lag on the xiaomi.eu rom but not global.
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Everything you're saying is true.
I feel the phone is laggy as ****. Every xiaomi i've owned (RN4 and RN5 and a Mi5) have lagged. Comparing, even the Mi5, to my last non-xioami phone(Huawei P9), RN5 is laggy as fu*k. They are using bad screens that tend to ghost a little and makes everything seems laggy. But that isn't the only problem, the main problem is the software. I can't understand how Xiaomi is one of the best phone company(money-wise) but their software is garbage. They somehow tend to just break everything for no reason. Qualcomm gives them everything to make a good phone and they fu*k everything with their *****y software/drivers/blobs/everything.
my old nexus 5 feels smoother.
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U have defect phone or you cant use it wright - you do not know how to use it (every xiaomi phone u owned)....
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U have defect phone or you cant use it wright - you do not know how to use it (every xiaomi phone u owned)....
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Sure, blame me.
You indians (because i can bet 1000$ you are indian) owned ****ty 50$ samsungs and think that Xiaomi is the holy grail. Well, it's not. My old nexus 5 is smoother than this garbage.
Hi everyone! I want to buy a new phone and I'm in for these 3. I'm a moderate user, focused mostly on YouTube and Netflix, some games (arena of valor mostly), and general Web use. I want a good screen, good battery life and decent performance. Mi8 don't have a headphone jack, but have a AMOLED display. I don't know about the quality of pocophone screen, and the Mi9T screen seems to be so gorgeus. Anyway, what you can tell about this three, especially for videos and games?
Get the poco add me on aov my name is GRAZED
Mate, go to a store, look at the phones your interested in and make a decision...
Each persons view is unique and what sells me a phone may be unimportant to you... You will probably find people here are a little biased towards the Pocophone. If you go to those other phone forums you will probably get most people saying to get their phone as they will be biased there, and most people won't downtalk their product (unless it's REALLY bad) due to the fact we like to think our product/advice is best...
There is a myriad of videos on youtube extolling the virtues/problems with each phone...
In the end it comes down to you...
lets reverse the analysis
why you should not buy Mi8 (over Pocof1)
- it has similar soc
- no 3.5mm jack
- no expandable storage
- lower battery
- same big notch like pocof1
why you should not buy mi9
- where its SD855 & larger Screen to Pocoft & Mi8.... the battery is even smaller than Mi8
- No 3.5mm jack &
-no expandable storage
- the chipset has broken in to more complex setup where 2.4ghz x1 single and rest stays on lower end unless required, perhaps this way mi9 is saving batter
- poco f1 &mi8 chips set is gold/sliver plated but mi9 specs on gsmarena doesn't mention any such
now why you should buy POCO f1 in 2019..?
- other MI successors are usually missing headfone jack and expandable storage (this is v imp for me / i don't know about u )
- with a few niptuck differences on mi8 / mi9 you will pay more on these devices where Poco f1 is relatively cheaper now.
- soon 5g devices will be out THEN it makes more sense to upgrade and if you buy Mi8/mi9 .. they both are 4g devices only then you will left with no choice to force upgrade yourself! , so its better to buy Poco f1 on cheaper prices NOW so that by next 6-9 months when market is saturated with 5g devices you can easily upgrade.
another angle for pocof1
- local shops have many accessories and you will able to find covers/wallets/protectors etc (poco f1 screen protector is same as Iphone XR ) ( my poco has Iphone XR 9h strong screen protector, fits 99% accurately!
- POCO F1 is Very popular device (after Redmi Note5 / 5+ / 5pro) and XDA has so much on Pocof1 already, many rom, methods, easy to root tips! where for Mi8/mi9 you will have to wait many weeks for developers to release stable roms! ,,
i always check these things before buying any device(s)
dont buy anything from xiaomi see damn freeze thread and youll see the pain if you got corrupt xiaomi device like ****y poco
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Hi everyone! I want to buy a new phone and I'm in for these 3. I'm a moderate user, focused mostly on YouTube and Netflix, some games (arena of valor mostly), and general Web use. I want a good screen, good battery life and decent performance. Mi8 don't have a headphone jack, but have a AMOLED display. I don't know about the quality of pocophone screen, and the Mi9T screen seems to be so gorgeus. Anyway, what you can tell about this three, especially for videos and games?
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i have used mi 9t, mi8 and poco and i can say mi 9t is the better option overall. Especially with with your use, there are no reasons to buy mi8 or poco, because arena of valor run smoothly on mi 9t and is the better option to play it thanks to the gorgeous display it has
Mi 9T Pro
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Mi 9T Pro
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This
There is no reason buying MI 9T if its not PRO. Poco and MI 8 actually the same but MI8 is a flagship and gives better experience using of it... but at the same time it has lower battery capacity. Im using Poco F1 for 7 months for now and thats the best phone i've ever used just because of SD845. So i definately recommend it.
I have the Pocophone F1 and I would say it is a decent phone.
I'm gonna say between Poco F1, Mi 8 and Mi 9t, there's not much difference. But i'll try to look at the best feature in them.
Mi 8? It has the Super AMOLED, corning glass 5, HDR10 screen, best screen. Great camera (+telephoto, OIS), sufficient enough. SD845 Adreno 630 on par with Poco F1.
Mi 9T? The latest device. AMOLED, corning glass 5 screen. Camera is supposed to be the best. 48MP (+telephoto, ultrawide), under display fingerprint (if you like that, idk for me). Headphone jack. USB OTG is there to compensate for the less expandable storage. 18w 4000 mAh battery.
Poco F1? SD845. Expandable storage, headphone jack, stereo speakers, USB OTG, 18w 4000mAh (QC 3.0) battery. The lowest cost among these three, or probably the same cost as Mi 9T (depends on your country, idk)
Of course there's pros and cons between them. And I saw a lot of pros in Mi 9T that actually makes me eager to get it (if only I hadn't buy Poco) Anyway choose one that fits you.
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dont buy anything from xiaomi see damn freeze thread and youll see the pain if you got corrupt xiaomi device like ****y poco
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my poco works perfect? might be some of your apps making device hang..
you need to explain what's installed and which rom you are using? even Miui10 which build? ( Stable (china/global) / developer (china/global) ) (rooted /nonrooted?) etc
Don't believe any positive comments about poco here. Poco is one of the ****ty device i have ever seen. It has famous touch issue that's still not solved and can't be solved through software updates. Camera is below avg. Phone hits up when its a plastic body. Durability is bad. Software updates are bad. Only battery backup is good because of it's large battery capacity.
Have my poco since it was out, am very pleased with it, no problems what so ever. Will trade it up for mi9t pro once it is released.
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Mate, go to a store, look at the phones your interested in and make a decision...
Each persons view is unique and what sells me a phone may be unimportant to you... You will probably find people here are a little biased towards the Pocophone. If you go to those other phone forums you will probably get most people saying to get their phone as they will be biased there, and most people won't downtalk their product (unless it's REALLY bad) due to the fact we like to think our product/advice is best...
There is a myriad of videos on youtube extolling the virtues/problems with each phone...
In the end it comes down to you...
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Well said. And sound advice.
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Don't believe any positive comments about poco here. Poco is one of the ****ty device i have ever seen. It has famous touch issue that's still not solved and can't be solved through software updates. Camera is below avg. Phone hits up when its a plastic body. Durability is bad. Software updates are bad. Only battery backup is good because of it's large battery capacity.
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I am fine with my POCO so far!
Keep in MIND that POCO is NOT flagship device ! and like any other high mid range android devices it has pros and cons! but you are highlighting CONS only! ?
-POCO is highly managable and xda has many roms/mods! since i am using my Poco on HAVOC I don't have hanging problem but I had used poco on MIUI initialy and It was fine too!
- camera is OK, the highlight of this fone was never camera, infact the camera is better than many midrange Xiaomi Phones
- All phones heats up! but the good part is , on havoc , even the phone feels hot on touch! it never hangs!
- yes i have noticed touch problems BUT on Franco/Twisted loop kernels because they had been changing kernel drivers , and even on franco, the touch problem is rare and if you switch on / off screen, it fixes it self! however if I use any other kernel, it stays just fine!
I have adjusted myself to many devices because of their limitations! but poco is so far best device that i have able to customized according to my wishes
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I am fine with my POCO so far!
Keep in MIND that POCO is NOT flagship device ! and like any other high mid range android devices it has pros and cons! but you are highlighting CONS only! ?
-POCO is highly managable and xda has many roms/mods! since i am using my Poco on HAVOC I don't have hanging problem but I had used poco on MIUI initialy and It was fine too!
- camera is OK, the highlight of this fone was never camera, infact the camera is better than many midrange Xiaomi Phones
- All phones heats up! but the good part is , on havoc , even the phone feels hot on touch! it never hangs!
- yes i have noticed touch problems BUT on Franco/Twisted loop kernels because they had been changing kernel drivers , and even on franco, the touch problem is rare and if you switch on / off screen, it fixes it self! however if I use any other kernel, it stays just fine!
I have adjusted myself to many devices because of their limitations! but poco is so far best device that i have able to customized according to my wishes
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you are forgetting the main thing. we have no enough time for unlocking bootloader, flashing rom, modification etc etc. we are giving our hard money to Xiaomi not xda devs. xda devs are best in all way. we want the best in stock like OnePlus did.
all of us don't know how to flash roms and not even interested. we got poor lcd panel and they should admit that. instead of it we are being told to remove screen guard to solve touch issue. this is bulls*** man.
poco isn't flagship but not even close to flagship killer dude.
look because u watch netflix get mi9T global verison because its support widvine L1 and it will support HD playback i am useing pocophone f1 even after they add the widevine support its doesn't play hd so i think it should be on the phone from the factory to work and mi 9 also has the same support with better soc but less battery so choose between thoes 2 forget about pocophone the screen not good with video playback
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you are forgetting the main thing. we have no enough time for unlocking bootloader, flashing rom, modification etc etc. we are giving our hard money to Xiaomi not xda devs. xda devs are best in all way. we want the best in stock like OnePlus did.
all of us don't know how to flash roms and not even interested. we got poor lcd panel and they should admit that. instead of it we are being told to remove screen guard to solve touch issue. this is bulls*** man.
poco isn't flagship but not even close to flagship killer dude.
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who are "WE" who don't have time?
-the fact you bieng on xda/replying/reading and answering makes you expert on this topic already !
-also predominantely if you don't like MIUI then POCO is not your only problem! then you should try ANdroid one devices like oneplus (oxygen is pretymuch stock android) and / or Nokias
- as i said! POCO is NOT flagship and and their lcd panel is SAME same same as Note5pro!! however i never face touch problems! of any kind!!!!!! used miui 10 on my waiting period and it was just perfect! perhaps you got a faulty device ORRRRRR Xaiomi made a Special POCO for me
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TLDR: Buy the Mi 9T, don't even wait for the Pro version. You won't miss anything on the Pro given your declared use-cases, all of those that you mentioned you can do on the 9T + more money for you because it's significantly cheaper.
Here are the things I noticed about the Mi 9T:
1. As we all know, the build and the cooling system of the Mi9T-series were spec'd to deal with SD855 high-performance SoC which is and certainly an overkill for the SD730.
2. As explained in #1, what you would get is significantly higher run-time for the performance cores + GPU on full load (max clocks) when you have a lower TDP SD730 SoC.
3. SD730 also sips power at full load and is overall having lower power consumption (then the Pro) which also converts to longer run time per single full charge.
Remember that you have a phone with passive cooling which could always be saturated especially during summer. The question is that for how long before saturation? Simple, SD730 would take longer time to saturate a cooling system designed for SD855, that's it. I always notice people getting disappointed gaming on a phone with SD845 (for example) and got mad because it could easily throttle at FULL LOAD, where is the liquid cooling? What the cooling system is doing? My answer would be: With great power comes faster passive-cooling saturation.
Forget Mi8, very small battery for gaming, lowest runtime of the 3.
Forget Poco, it's overkill for your use-cases (SoC-wise) and it's camera is dated and offers less utility as compared to the cameras of the Mi9T.
Buy the Mi9T, it's best for the price and the use-cases you have stated. I also has the overall highest battery run-time of the 3.
Oh, the Mi9T Pro? Forget it, just buy a Mi9T with the biggest storage space and call it a day.
I am using a POCO F1 since September 2018. It had its own set of problems like screen touch issues etc.
Right now you should go with Mi9T because:
1. Better Screen. Poco screen is **** literally. If you dont bother about touch issues, even then the poco's display is very average.
2. SD730 is more than enough for a 1080p screen. Although Sd845 is stronger on paper, you wont make out much difference in performance unless you are into heavy gaming.
3. Design.. Poco's design sucks literally.
4. You get better camera, same battery but more power efficient chipset leading to a longer battery life.
5. Mi9T loudspeaker is louder than poco's speaker.( Poco's secondary speaker is barely audible and just for the surround effect)
6. Mi9T will get updates longer.
Poco will have less resale value now.
Unless you are into gaming, avoid poco f1. But beware that none of these will play Netflix in HD.
However if you can wait a bit and willing to spend extra, get the pro version.will be worth it.
I love the P30 but maybe it’s is ruined by the compromises Huawei made. Overall though with others also missing the mark it may be my favourite phone...almost.
Wireless charging is sorely missed as is ois and general specs on the main camera, but then again.....
The OP7 pro is too big and also lacks wireless charging and an always on display.
The S10 and S10+ (in the UK) are crippled with the exynos and the Samsung curved screens have the worst accidental touches of all curved screens. Battery is under par and overall the S10s just fell a hair slower than the competition, probably part exynos, part bloatware.
The S10e is has compromises for lefties
Pixel 3 XL is hideous
Pixel 3 is too small
LG G8 is not available in the UK but the camera looks lacking
So overall I love the flat screen of the P30 and work around the downsides. Hopeful that the pixel 4 will be the one or that OP will eventually figure out how (or actually try) to implement an always on display. In the interim though the P30 is pretty good.
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You can always add wireless charging but you give up accessibility to your USB-C. Though, I doubt you really use it that much other than for charging.
I'm sure the S10+ battery life is much better than the P30. Not sure about the S10.
For me, the s10+ is just too wide. I like to use my phone one handed and I can't reach the other side of the screen without my palm interfering. The P30 and P30+ are narrower.
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You can always add wireless charging but you give up accessibility to your USB-C. Though, I doubt you really use it that much other than for charging.
I'm sure the S10+ battery life is much better than the P30. Not sure about the S10.
For me, the s10+ is just too wide. I like to use my phone one handed and I can't reach the other side of the screen without my palm interfering. The P30 and P30+ are narrower.
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i have both a P30 and the s10. the battery life on the p30 is so much better and the supercharge so fast, that i dont mind not having wireless charging. i bought a wireless charging case for it, but it felt too clunky, i think i had it on the phone just one day.
the p30 is also a better size for me. the s10 is just too tall. the s10 is thinner and lighter which at times feels better in the hands, but it also feels cheaper.
i do have the s10 rooted, which was not easy. i will be getting a bootloader unlock code when they are available again and doing the same for the p30. the process for rooting the p30 will be similar and as difficult as it was for the s10. once i have it rooted, i cant see myself using the s10 very much, in fact i will probably give it away.
I totally agree with you.
After a Mate 10 pro I had a Oneplus 7 and the Pro, a Zenfone 6 and the Xiaomi MI 9t...
Now I'm using the P30 and will stick with it for a while... For me the best device 2019 till now!
It's specs, Cam, the amazing screen and last but not least the SIZE.... A nearly perfect package!
Only thing I miss is the Stereo speaker! Don't understand why Huawei removed it, there's a huge grill at the top...
But overall I'm very happy with this great peace of Hardware!
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I totally agree with you.
After a Mate 10 pro I had a Oneplus 7 and the Pro, a Zenfone 6 and the Xiaomi MI 9t...
Now I'm using the P30 and will stick with it for a while... For me the best device 2019 till now!
It's specs, Cam, the amazing screen and last but not least the SIZE.... A nearly perfect package!
Only thing I miss is the Stereo speaker! Don't understand why Huawei removed it, there's a huge grill at the top...
But overall I'm very happy with this great peace of Hardware!
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that's one thing i forgot to mention, the speaker phone on the s10 is significantly better than the p30's, but i can do without it. and yes, the camera on the p30 is amazing, the s10 may catch up with firmware updates, but no contest out of the box
I also think P30 is the best phone available on the market.... I bought 3 of them for the whole family. Screen, battery, size, headphone jack, flawless call recording, speed, perfect dual sim, camera...... In Poland you pay £400 for an unlocked, new, dual sim Aurora without any contract.
SD card would be good but on the other hand 128 GB does the trick and if you use any cloud (I'd recommend pCloud it's fantastic) you don't really miss SD card slot ( I know it is there but you can't have a dual sim at the same time and also Huawei requires a different sd card)
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I also think P30 is the best phone available on the market.... I bought 3 of them for the whole family. Screen, battery, size, headphone jack, flawless call recording, speed, perfect dual sim, camera...... In Poland you pay £400 for an unlocked, new, dual sim Aurora without any contract.
SD card would be good but on the other hand 128 GB does the trick and if you use any cloud (I'd recommend pCloud it's fantastic) you don't really miss SD card slot ( I know it is there but you can't have a dual sim at the same time and also Huawei requires a different sd card)
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I bought a 256 Nano card, sux that I won't be able to use it for another non huawei device, but I have 120gb music on my phone
I'd go as far as to say that for my uses the P30 has better battery life than an exynos S10+ too. Maybe with some gaming torture tests the S10+ would win out but for me the P30 holds up better.
It really is just the lack of wireless charging and OIS on the main camera where I feel the compromise. also not a fan of the camera app which I do not find intuitive at all (especially the zoom settings) but that is really minor. The biggest negative day to day would be the wireless charging.
I still think the S10 feels the more polished product but the biggest negative on that would be the battery life.
P.S Getting hold of the 256gb card in the UK is tricky, none on amazon so taking a risk on an ebay one (that might not be genuine) is the only option, I have stuck with the 128gb card.
We only need better software and a better EQ. No clue how Dolby Atmos got that popular. It's good for the speaker but utter garbage for headphones. My Koss Porta Pro and my AKG K550 MKIII are completely different headphones but both sound awful with it. Not to mention the volume loss..
If P30 and mate 20 pro same price then which one is better in sound , camera, battery ?
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If P30 and mate 20 pro same price then which one is better in sound , camera, battery ?
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From what i read and saw in the reviews, Mate 20 pro is better on battery and sound, P30 is better on camera.
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Agree with everyone. I posted a similar comment a while ago, with my guide on "debloading". My battery last 4 days (daily: 3-4 phonecalls, several SMS's, an hour or so of browsing, no Facebook or Youtube etc.). As far as the camera goes, it is also one of the best!
I bought Oneplus 8 pro because of mi10 pro was not available in time when I have done purchase. I consider now return my 8 pro and buy mi 10 pro? Is it worth to do that? Does mi10 pro is overall really much better than 8 pro? I have a lot of Xiaomi accessories and I am used to Xiaomi smartphone. My one concern is miui... How mi10 pro keep background task and Have you noticed notification issue one this device? It was always a huge pain on Xiaomi device and only one reason which prevent me from swapping right now.
I love my MI 10 PRO.
I come from Oneplus and for now I don't miss its software at all. Miui 11 is doing very well. And when Miui 12 arrives, it'll be much better.
Stereo speakers are great for music, videos, etc.
Fast charging is fantastic, and the screen makes me 8 hours on!!!!
They are 2 good phones. I did the same thing but I will keep the OnePlus 8 pro. Do not disturb mode is essential to me, I need to be available for many times in a month during night hours. I need to receive calls from anyone and no notification sound and on the Mi 10 / Mi 10 pro do not disturb mode doesn't work (like most xiaomi phones). Even in miui 12 beta.
So... There is anything else I can do....
Have had both of them same time..they are both great phones,1+8 litle bit smoothier but with 1H less screen sot,mi 10 pro better speakers(best in phone i have heard till now) screens almost same in terms of quality/brightness..
But there is a but..many people having issues with 1+8 pro screens so its a big deal for me that..overall i can call it like a tie in terms of what to choose.
Grimm-reaper said:
I bought Oneplus 8 pro because of mi10 pro was not available in time when I have done purchase. I consider now return my 8 pro and buy mi 10 pro? Is it worth to do that? Does mi10 pro is overall really much better than 8 pro? I have a lot of Xiaomi accessories and I am used to Xiaomi smartphone. My one concern is miui... How mi10 pro keep background task and Have you noticed notification issue one this device? It was always a huge pain on Xiaomi device and only one reason which prevent me from swapping right now.
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Both phones haves pros and cons.
MI 10 PRO
PROS
Better camera quality with zooms from 2x to 10x. With MIUI 12 it will get better with new functions, night mode 3.0 and new interface.
Better stereo speakers
Good battery life (with 90Hz display it goes from 5 to 8 SoT depending on use) - With MIUI 12 it will receive 120Hz option, i must retest battery life
Good screen (FHD+ is good for resolution and save battery instead of WQHD+)
CONS
108MP camera is not "easy" to use. It's big with a la low f. value. Focus point is very small but natural bokeh is amazing. You should take a lot of pictures to understand how it works.
Big and heavy.
ONEPLUS 8 PRO
PROS
Better UI. Oxygen is faster and smoother
Better support. OnePlus beta is a very good program
Better design of the back
CONS
Good camera setup but not yet a top cameraphone
Battery is slighlty under MI 10 pro (with WQHD and 120HZ from 4 to 5 hours of SoT depending on use - with FHD and 120Hz from 4 to 6 hours)
deus_ex_yue said:
Both phones haves pros and cons.
MI 10 PRO
PROS
Better camera quality with zooms from 2x to 10x. With MIUI 12 it will get better with new functions, night mode 3.0 and new interface.
Better stereo speakers
Good battery life (with 90Hz display it goes from 5 to 8 SoT depending on use) - With MIUI 12 it will receive 120Hz option, i must retest battery life
Good screen (FHD+ is good for resolution and save battery instead of WQHD+)
CONS
108MP camera is not "easy" to use. It's big with a la low f. value. Focus point is very small but natural bokeh is amazing. You should take a lot of pictures to understand how it works.
Big and heavy.
ONEPLUS 8 PRO
PROS
Better UI. Oxygen is faster and smoother
Better support. OnePlus beta is a very good program
Better design of the back
CONS
Good camera setup but not yet a top cameraphone
Battery is slighlty under MI 10 pro (with WQHD and 120HZ from 4 to 5 hours of SoT depending on use - with FHD and 120Hz from 4 to 6 hours)
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Hello,about 120HZ on MIUI 12 did you read it somewhere or you just believe that will be?
Thanks in advance.
You missed the wonderful fast charge of the MI 10 PRO. I'm totally impressed.
About the battery life is spectacular. I do 8 hours of screen!!!
About the software, I have to say that my previous mobile was Oneplus and to this day, they don't miss anything.
Miui 11 is a marvel and tomorrow now comes Miui 12 which will be even better.
Jinthegodstyle said:
Hello,about 120HZ on MIUI 12 did you read it somewhere or you just believe that will be?
Thanks in advance.
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MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
deus_ex_yue said:
MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Wow.. that's awesome! Good to have it for try.. not necessary to have it because of battery drain,but to be there for some times it's nice!
deus_ex_yue said:
MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Does it work?
I come from the OP7 Pro, mainly switched to the Mi 10 Pro because of the camera. Also, the OP8 pro looks too similar to my Op7 Pro IMO. These also got rid of the amazing popup camera. The screen on the op8 pro ist way too curvy at the edge IMO. You can unlock the bootloader on both of them. MIUI 11 runs perfect for me, but Oxygen OS is also perfect IMO.
Just pick the one you prefer.
I come from OnePlus 8 pro and I don't get the fuzz about oxygen os which is very poooooor compared to miui !!!
For example.
In xiaomi.eu rom the music player can act exactly like YouTube premium. No ads and can play in the background
With mi browser YouTube with no ads and you can easily download media from Facebook and Instagram.
Actually there is a video tools can make any video app play in the background
Plus battery life and charging speeds
Speakers quality
Camera is better quality and functions
Qhd is nice. But nah.
vodovodo said:
I come from OnePlus 8 pro and I don't get the fuzz about oxygen os which is very poooooor compared to miui !!!
For example.
In xiaomi.eu rom the music player can act exactly like YouTube premium. No ads and can play in the background
With mi browser YouTube with no ads and you can easily download media from Facebook and Instagram.
Actually there is a video tools can make any video app play in the background
Plus battery life and charging speeds
Speakers quality
Camera is better quality and functions
Qhd is nice. But nah.
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Oxygen os is known to be a snappy os. Do you find it snappier than miui?
First of all trust me It is OVERRATED!
Used to be the snappiest yes but not anymore for a long time. Please check phonebuff speed test between the oneplus 7 pro and Samsung note 10 plus... Yes Samsung oneui !!!! and you will be shocked that even Samsung is faster!
It's a poor limited os compared to others! Reviewers is paid to say it's snappy. That's all
MI 10 Pro: 10/10
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MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Thats Not the Mi 10 pro.
Thats the Mi 10pro PLUS which will come Out soon.
DISCLAIMER: I am using the Indian variant of the model and hence some stuff may be different for you
So i was a Poco X3 Pro user until about a month ago when my motherboard died and since they couldn't get a replacement motherboard for my device nor was poco x3 pro available as a replacement, I was being offered the Redmi Note 10 Pro, I was furious as that is a serious downgrade from my Poco X3 Pro and after some bickering I had to pay around 3000 INR extra for a Poco X4 Pro
I am using the 8/128gb variant for about a week now and here is what I have to say
This is a massive, no. HUMONGOUS downgrade from the Poco X3 Pro in probably every way possible
Camera: the global variant comes with a 108 MP main camera, however the Indian variant only gets a 64 MP main camera!
Obviously the snap 695 doesn't support 4k video recording but I did hear that it supports 1080p 60 fps recording however for some reason xiaomi only allows 1080p 30 fps
So please do not try to record videos on this device
Photos - Since I have a 64mp main camera it might be different for you
Seriously? The quality of photos better on my 4yr old Oppo F9 Pro
Performance: obviously quite a downgrade from Poco X3 Pro, lags and stutters are very noticeable
Poco X3 Pro could run Genshin Impact at Highest graphic settings at around 40-45 fps
Poco X4 Pro, just no don't even try you can literally count the frames on your screen
Thought it would be good as they literally just said during their Poco X4 Pro reveal that the massive sale for their X3 Pro was because of its performance
Display - Although it doesn't support 4k I am satisfied with the 120Hz Amoled display
but I do face a weird problem every now and then
I feel like the display is too sensitive
I hold my phone when using landscape mode with 4 fingers and sometimes when my fingers just get a bit close to the screen but not touching the screen it thinks I am touching the screen and performs tasks according to it
for example while watching yt this happens and the video either gets forwarded by 10s or goes backward by 10s
Battery: Good battery life and the fast charging is pretty nice
Overall
I don't exactly think this is worth your money...
atleast not the Indian variant
Indians are crazy for performance as 90% of them play demanding games
p.s when I got the phone it was running Miui 13.0.2 and like 5-6 hours later I got the miui 13.0.4 update and it's laggier than 13.0.2
atleast for me
also would like to know how the Non Indian variant of the device is
Global version here with 108mp cam. Granted I've never bothered for mobile gaming as I use consoles/pc for that but I've had zero lag and stuttering, screen is awesome, speakers are great, SOT is 2 days with moderate usage, camera pretty good once you use a modified gcam and I've got no interest in taking videos so lack of recording in 4k doesn't worry me.
I think people are quick to complain about a phone that's only just been released and the stock apps/firmware need some work. Just said on a previous thread - after installing MIUI EU, rooted and running multiple magisk mods I'm more than happy... People knew the processor was mid range before purchasing so stating it's slower than a high end SD processor is kind of obvious right? This phone is a decent and it focused on different areas than the previous model which has attacked some people and put off others.
1qazwsx4 said:
Global version here with 108mp cam. Granted I've never bothered for mobile gaming as I use consoles/pc for that but I've had zero lag and stuttering, screen is awesome, speakers are great, SOT is 2 days with moderate usage, camera pretty good once you use a modified gcam and I've got no interest in taking videos so lack of recording in 4k doesn't worry me.
I think people are quick to complain about a phone that's only just been released and the stock apps/firmware need some work. Just said on a previous thread - after installing MIUI EU, rooted and running multiple magisk mods I'm more than happy... People knew the processor was mid range before purchasing so stating it's slower than a high end SD processor is kind of obvious right? This phone is a decent and it focused on different areas than the previous model which has attacked some people and put off others.
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Great to hear that the global variant is better than the Indian one, personally I'm not a heavy gamer too I just put in the part of performance since Poco during their x4 pro reveal just said that the massive sale of their x3 pro was due to its good performance and well then they just took a 360° turn and were like here we do not care
Gcam does make the camera a bit better but the Indian variant has a 64mp camera compared to the 108 on the global one so that's sad
have been able to get rid of a few stutters on the UI by installing Poco launcher 4
about the speakers
Is it just me or is the sound too low?
but the clarity is pretty good
edit: I'm not so interested in 4k recording but hoped a 1080p 60 fps recording would be possible
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Great to hear that the global variant is better than the Indian one, personally I'm not a heavy gamer too I just put in the part of performance since Poco during their x4 pro reveal just said that the massive sale of their x3 pro was due to its good performance and well then they just took a 360° turn and were like here we do not care
Gcam does make the camera a bit better but the Indian variant has a 64mp camera compared to the 108 on the global one so that's sad
have been able to get rid of a few stutters on the UI by installing Poco launcher 4
about the speakers
Is it just me or is the sound too low?
but the clarity is pretty good
edit: I'm not so interested in 4k recording but hoped a 1080p 60 fps recording would be possible
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Hmmm I usually keep my speakers about halfway because they are very loud (and have decent quality imo) I further increased my quality by installed jamesdsp and with the speaker profile I use a viper DDC file called arise-army. I use a custom version for my Bluetooth audio too
1qazwsx4 said:
Hmmm I usually keep my speakers about halfway because they are very loud (and have decent quality imo) I further increased my quality by installed jamesdsp and with the speaker profile I use a viper DDC file called arise-army. I use a custom version for my Bluetooth audio too
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I see, so what I suspected was that Indian variant of miui is reducing the maximum volume of the device so I guess that's the case well anyways I'll get MIUI eu soon I have 3 days left till I can unlock the bootloader
BR4UTAL said:
DISCLAIMER: I am using the Indian variant of the model and hence some stuff may be different for you
So i was a Poco X3 Pro user until about a month ago when my motherboard died and since they couldn't get a replacement motherboard for my device nor was poco x3 pro available as a replacement, I was being offered the Redmi Note 10 Pro, I was furious as that is a serious downgrade from my Poco X3 Pro and after some bickering I had to pay around 3000 INR extra for a Poco X4 Pro
I am using the 8/128gb variant for about a week now and here is what I have to say
This is a massive, no. HUMONGOUS downgrade from the Poco X3 Pro in probably every way possible
Camera: the global variant comes with a 108 MP main camera, however the Indian variant only gets a 64 MP main camera!
Obviously the snap 695 doesn't support 4k video recording but I did hear that it supports 1080p 60 fps recording however for some reason xiaomi only allows 1080p 30 fps
So please do not try to record videos on this device
Photos - Since I have a 64mp main camera it might be different for you
Seriously? The quality of photos better on my 4yr old Oppo F9 Pro
Performance: obviously quite a downgrade from Poco X3 Pro, lags and stutters are very noticeable
Poco X3 Pro could run Genshin Impact at Highest graphic settings at around 40-45 fps
Poco X4 Pro, just no don't even try you can literally count the frames on your screen
Thought it would be good as they literally just said during their Poco X4 Pro reveal that the massive sale for their X3 Pro was because of its performance
Display - Although it doesn't support 4k I am satisfied with the 120Hz Amoled display
but I do face a weird problem every now and then
I feel like the display is too sensitive
I hold my phone when using landscape mode with 4 fingers and sometimes when my fingers just get a bit close to the screen but not touching the screen it thinks I am touching the screen and performs tasks according to it
for example while watching yt this happens and the video either gets forwarded by 10s or goes backward by 10s
Battery: Good battery life and the fast charging is pretty nice
Overall
I don't exactly think this is worth your money...
atleast not the Indian variant
Indians are crazy for performance as 90% of them play demanding games
p.s when I got the phone it was running Miui 13.0.2 and like 5-6 hours later I got the miui 13.0.4 update and it's laggier than 13.0.2
atleast for me
also would like to know how the Non Indian variant of the device is
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For me it's a great device. I'm not going to lie, I would buy the POCO F3 without fear, IF AND ONLY IF it had a P2 input for headphones
augusto_peres said:
For me it's a great device. I'm not going to lie, I would buy the POCO F3 without fear, IF AND ONLY IF it had a P2 input for headphones
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ah great, hopefully there's more people like you so that this phone can get a new life from all the development
I just realised that this might be one of the only devices that still start at 64gb storage in this price range, good thing it's only In India
however for my Indian friends out there...
There is no 256gb variant of peux
and well if you visit the poco official website there is just absolutely no info about the Indian variant... That's sad
anyways I finally unlocked the bootloader and got miui eu 13.0.10 this def feels better
1qazwsx4 said:
camera pretty good once you use a modified gcam
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I just bought this phone and was wondering how you do this? Do I just install an APK from here? https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
The Poco X4 isn't listed though. I'm a total newbie to this.
Guitarwolves said:
I just bought this phone and was wondering how you do this? Do I just install an APK from here? https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-port-hub/
The Poco X4 isn't listed though. I'm a total newbie to this.
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No worries. Link is below, I prefer the LMC version of the camera - download install and then restore the XML config
GCam Discussion Thread
Hello Here a new GCAM version with pixel binning https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-shamim/f/dl13/ Gcam SHAMIM In this version, you will have several shooting modes, including one with Pixel Binning, to be able to do...
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I got the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus Indian variant because thats the only one available right now unofficially. From what I heard its the only one that will come officially too. From what I've seen the performance is really good. I can play every single high graphics game at good fps. Genshin too runs 40-45 on medium settings. Its a great balanced processor if you're looking for a phone that you can game and take great pictures with. Usually if you go for a gaming device everything is sacrificed for the soc but, at least on the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus, you get a great soc for gaming and emulation (Can emulate PS2 and Wii games with 60fps!!!), a great looking if a bit fragile body and a good main camera sensor (same as previous gen Note 10 Pro Max) and awesome battery life with fast charging to boot.
Coming from the X3 Pro to the X4 is a definite downgrade but coming from Redmi Note 10 Pro Max it is definitely an upgrade.
Coming from a 2019 $100 phone here — the experience has been very good compared to my old daily driver. Everything's smooth and the camera's really comparable to a flagship with some drawbacks of course. However knowing that the hardware is a heavy downgrade from its predecessor, I'm starting to have second thoughts on this one. Sure the AMOLED screen and 5G is great and I don't really do mobile gaming as my iPad does the job for me but no 4K recording and playback? Heck, 1080p60 recording isn't even possible. Genshin Impact runs barely 30 FPS on lowest settings. I'm a bit disappointed. I definitely should've done more research on my part.
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Coming from a 2019 $100 phone here — the experience has been very good compared to my old daily driver. Everything's smooth and the camera's really comparable to a flagship with some drawbacks of course. However knowing that the hardware is a heavy downgrade from its predecessor, I'm starting to have second thoughts on this one. Sure the AMOLED screen and 5G is great and I don't really do mobile gaming as my iPad does the job for me but no 4K recording and playback? Heck, 1080p60 recording isn't even possible. Genshin Impact runs barely 30 FPS on lowest settings. I'm a bit disappointed. I definitely should've done more research on my part.
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from a 2019 $100 this is definitely a massive upgrade
sadly camera is no where close to flagship store infact it's worser than almost all devices in this price range (excluding devices with the snap695 ofc)
It's predecessor was a one of thing
it didn't last long though as it had major flaws like severe ghost touch and hard bricking randomly due to cheap PMIC
but for performance it could easily beat devices tha cost 2x the price
it was a beast in terms of gaming
if you got rid of the perf kernel you're basically looking at a standard laptop
with LYB kernel i managed to always maintain an fps above 50 on the max graphics possible in Genshin Impact
Sadly the 5G aspect is totally useless to me as my country doesn't even provide stable 4g speeds so 5g isn't coming any time soon
Screen is good with a two small (most likely software based) flaws being flickering and backlight bleeding
4k video recording is even available on rather cheaper devices nowadays so yeah that's a bummer
You can actually record at 1080p 60 fps using Gcam but it's actually more of a 1080p 45 fps
Happy with the 1080p amoled display
if it was 4k then it would be an lps display
and people think that amoled 1080p displays are better than 4k lps ones but this controversial so I'd rather just leave it at that
(I personally like 4k lps)
Gaming (like real gaming not just candy crush level stuff) is sadly almost impossible on this device with it even lagging severely in apex legends mobile on the lowest possible graphics
But hey it could be saved by 3rd party development though the chances do seem slim as of now since the account that used to release kernel sources for Xiaomi devices has been inactive for a while now
i kind of feel like the device was a flop
you can disagree and it's totally fine but just look at how poco went back to the performance before everything else standard on the Poco F4