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Does it worth it? (AMOLED, ROM Development...)

Hi,
I've been saving to get a Mi 9T pro for quite some time... and of course now it isn't available at a reasonable price, so my eyes are on a Poco F2 Pro (i live in Europe right now).
My only requirements would be:
mandatory:
- headphone jack (check)
- Super AMOLED without bloody hole (who would do that??) (can you confirm it is a super amoled screen like mi 9T pro and Mi 9 lite, not just amoled (like Mi 9T) please?) (check i guess)
slightly less important:
- stereo speakers (not checked, i live w/o it i guess! cause in that price range i can't find anything, specially with the 2 first requirements)
- microSD slot (ok i'll plug it more often then...)
and last but not least:
- good community regarding development, tweaks, custom roms and so on => will this one be checked one day ? What do you think ? I see sources are out but missing a lot of parts... are people gonna get some enthusiasm on that phone at one point ? (so, yeah, if somebody could tell me the future ^^ and the next lottery numbers while you're at it...)
So, well, maybe I'm too demanding, what do you guys think, and is there a way to be happy with stock MIUI (debloating?) to begin with ?
Sorry if all of that was already address, I take my chances asking my concern to the community before I buy anything as it is a big expense for me.
THANKS A LOT for your time and your help
Cheers !

I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)

Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice

XpLoDWilD said:
Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice
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OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !

reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !

LaMarMôt said:
OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !
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What? No, the f2 has better screen. Well as long as you don't care about Refresh rate. But touch sampling is better 120 Vs 180 on the f2
Camera is better on the f2 even with ois

LaMarMôt said:
How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !
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I can not say for Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro as I have the Zoom edition (different hardware) but the Zoom has slightly brighter screen than K20 Pro. I had for the short time Oneplus 7T pro. it had better color accuracy and 90 Hz
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reliot said:
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
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why? I think poco f2pro is a good cheap and balance phone.

reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.

Suraj Pandey said:
It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.
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Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !

LaMarMôt said:
Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !
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13th August

dex2grigg said:
13th August
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Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!

Amazing phone, but MIUI with zero custom rom development is a no-go for me.

I have the poco f2 pro and owned 2 mi9t pro before as well. The phone is not bad but not great. Have it over a month now, miui 12 was a nice improvement but I see some bugs since the update. The screen sometimes go dark and take a good few seconds to recover. Happened when using chrome or various other apps. I had to even reboot at one point because it didn't recover. I know a wipe could resolve the issue just too lazy to do it and I only see the above bug a few times.
Comparing to the mi9t pro it has much nicer features such as the harptic feedback is nicer. Camera and touch response is also better, not even mention the longer battery life. However due to the size and weight I did find the mi9t pro much more usable. I have small hand and for me does require 2 hands to operate cause I cannot reach much with one hand.
Custom rom does exist check xiaomi.eu but its very limited compare how the mi9t pro\k20 pro was. I'm not planning to mess around with roms just wanted a device which works, this doesn't really bothers me.
Is it worth it? Hmm the market is fludded with good devices, if you want a full screen display there isn't much option available, the cut out or teardrop style is more common then anything else. The answer is subjective but owning the device I may look around and chose a different one.

Since this phone will 100% sure get Android 11 , I think most logical way forward (from dev perspective) is wait for that release before doing any custom ROM. Doing it now with current release base (its buggy too) is probably waste of time.
This is not the first phone with the same situation happened before.

I own both mi9t pro 128gb and k30 pro 256gb (zoom edition) and I can certainly says it surely an upgrade especially when you do gaming often.
Im not sure about everybody else, but in my experience, mi9t pro do stutter in games from time to time which I suspect comes from thermal throttling. On the other hand, my k30 pro did not have such issue at all. Mind you, it was both on miui 12 latest stable rom.
Oh yes, plus the added benefit of getting UFS 3.1, LPDDR5, bigger battery, IR blaster, faster charging, bigger battery, latest chipset, 5G (future-proofing), and most importantly for me, the OIS on both telephoto and main camera lens enable me to take long exposure and night shot without those blurry image. 3x telephoto lens not just better in zooming but also double as macro lens with AF! I can zoom up to 30x and have a decent moon-shot, albeit not so great but still good enough. All in all, its well worth to be considered as an upgrade.
Before i forgot, yes the screen is definitely super amoled, which comes with good factory-calibration on "Standard" or "Original" mode. P3 and sRGB mode as preset are great option to have which mi9t pro really missing.

LordWurstbrot said:
Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!
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Yup. Poco f2 pro won't launch in India. They'll launch it as K30 Pro. It is because of this Covid situation that launch has been delayed. Also Xiaomi India is trying to clear their existing stocks of K20 pro before launching K30 Pro

I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?

wait for pixel 5 4a with 765 processor is uber trash

androideas said:
I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?
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Now POCO F2 Pro is about 300,00€ in Italy. That is a so low price for these specs (Snapdragon 865), if there are two big lack:
1. no slot card at all and
2. no development due to the fact that the source code tree is partially hidden in order to block the development.
It seems like there's a collusion between the phone house to give a price to the possibility of development.
Actually google pixel it costs much more than the value of the money suggests for its specs.
Like "future development of the phone" must be paid by the costumers. That is my paranoia. :confuso:

Question Your thoughts about the poco x3 pro

Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?

Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/

ollie2012 said:
Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/
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Please go here for what you need.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/camera-sensor-id.4265251/post-84879149

rafa_apmm said:
Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.

1375965485501144093271341 said:
Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Yeah, the very notable difference for this phone is it's cheap price for it's spec.
For some people, 3.5mm jack together with microSD is better.
And something different from the Redmi Note 7 Pro that you didn't told is the UFS 3.1 internal storage. This makes read/write very fast. So for photos and games, it's faster. That's also the reason other than the SOC that makes it very smooth and snappy.

I had a Nokia 7 Plus for about two years before and the X3 Pro is a rocket by comparison. I also thought about getting the Note 10 Pro for a while, but the "bad" SoC put me off. OLED is of course nice to have, but without a real always-on display it is of little use in my opinion. In any case, I am more than satisfied with the X3 Pro in all respects. MIUI and all the bloatware is an evil abomination if you were only used to Vanilla Android before, but thanks to ADB you can fix a lot.

I switched from Moto G5 Plus and I find this phone much better in almost every aspect, except size
I don't care much about photo quality, they are good enough for me.
Screen seems to be dimmer than on my old Moto. Colors are ok, I like that it supports reading mode without relying on third party apps. I don't need smooth animations so 60Hz is enough for me.
Storage - I had to buy model with bigger storage as I need dual sim active all the time.
Audio quality on headphones (cable and BT) is very good.
Battery (after playing with location settings to stop drain) life is satisfying. Charging is super fast.
Performance - I don't play games that requires all that power so for every day use I find it outstanding.
Ocassionally I need to calibrate location (?) sensors in some apps, might need to find more permanent solution.

Question SAMMY A52 5G OR POCO X3 PRO !! help!!

I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?

1q3er5 said:
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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Poco x3 pro is far better than A52 5G in terms of performance , the LCD screen is better than some amoleds but not that bright 450nits, poco has a better procesor snap860,also a good battery but A52 have a greater battery life because the amoled ,but if you use it at 120hz its probably the same , about custom rooms on my poco x3 pro i use pixel plus ui and is working excelent (battery life also improved) , but this is your decision A52 5G is for mostly easy task and not for gaiming or editing , poco x3 pro is for performance ,gaiming etc ,the only things probably A52 is better is the cameras and IP67 because poco x3 pro has IP53 and the cameras are how they are ,with Gcam probably some improvments , also poco has ufs 3.1 than 2.1 on a52 ,if you dont like playing games go for A52 5G but if need performance go for Poco X3 Pro is a great option also cheaper .

1q3er5 said:
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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A52 camera will be light years ahead out of box, especially at low light with the optical stabilization.. you actually dont need custom ROM's or Gcam to improve it. Personally i prefer good AMOLED screens over fast refresh LCD (Always on Display, amazing brightness, color reproduction etc..) plus the Xiaomi screen is riddled with ghost touch issues, personally i didn't encounter it but there is a ton of people which have this problem.
One more thing to consider - A52 5G will receive 3 major Android updates and security updates for few more years, and since it released on Android 11 it will end up with Android 14.. X3 Pro will officially receive only Android 12. So yeah lack of custom ROM's with that long official updates from Samsung is not really a big deal.
Personally between the two i would go for A52 without much thinking, i'd consider X3 Pro only if you heavily play games on phone and want best possible SoC for the money.

Antonio7489 said:
Poco x3 pro is far better than A52 5G , the LCD screen is better than some amoleds but not that bright 450nits, poco has a better procesor snap860,also a good battery but A52 have a greater battery life because the amoled ,but if you use it at 120hz its probably the same , about custom rooms on my poco x3 pro i use pixel plus ui and is working excelent (battery life also improved) , but this is your decision A52 5G is for mostly easy task and not for gaiming or editing , poco x3 pro is for performance ,gaiming etc ,the only things probably A52 is better is the cameras and IP67 because poco x3 pro has IP53 and the cameras are how they are ,with Gcam probably some improvments , also poco has ufs 3.1 than 2.1 on a52 ,if you dont like playing games go for A52 5G but if need performance go for Poco X3 Pro is a great option also cheaper .
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My Poco X3 Pro battery isn't better even compared to my K20 Pro, Poco X3 Pro battery only lasts a full 12 hours if I set it on battery saver mode. I watch/listen to podcasts the whole day or listen to music. I can't even turn off the battery saver and set the refresh rate to 120hz without the phone dying in 3 hours max of continuous gaming.

plskillme said:
My Poco X3 Pro battery isn't better even compared to my K20 Pro, Poco X3 Pro battery only lasts a full 12 hours if I set it on battery saver mode. I watch/listen to podcasts the whole day or listen to music. I can't even turn off the battery saver and set the refresh rate to 120hz without the phone dying in 3 hours max of continuous gaming.
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i dont know how it last you 3 hours of gaiming , on mine i watched youtube 3-4 hours with additonal 2 hours PUBGM +3hours of hostpot ,and it survived with 33% battery , also i have an EU model ,idk if is better ,im using custom room ,but also on MIUI it did grate.

Antonio7489 said:
i dont know how it last you 3 hours of gaiming , on mine i watched youtube 3-4 hours with additonal 2 hours PUBGM +3hours of hostpot ,and it survived with 33% battery , also i have an EU model ,idk if is better ,im using custom room ,but also on MIUI it did grate.
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Some games and apps don't fully support 60+hz refresh rate, you might wanna check your games and apps again.

I'm a bit confused for battery life - one of you did 3-4 hours of youtube, 2 hours of pubg and 3 hour hotspot - Isn't that good lol? I should have mentioned I'm not picky about camera (as long as it's not terrible) OR gaming. mostly surfing web/youtube, movies etc.a

k3lcior said:
A52 camera will be light years ahead out of box, especially at low light with the optical stabilization.. you actually dont need custom ROM's or Gcam to improve it. Personally i prefer good AMOLED screens over fast refresh LCD (Always on Display, amazing brightness, color reproduction etc..) plus the Xiaomi screen is riddled with ghost touch issues, personally i didn't encounter it but there is a ton of people which have this problem.
One more thing to consider - A52 5G will receive 3 major Android updates and security updates for few more years, and since it released on Android 11 it will end up with Android 14.. X3 Pro will officially receive only Android 12. So yeah lack of custom ROM's with that long official updates from Samsung is not really a big deal.
Personally between the two i would go for A52 without much thinking, i'd consider X3 Pro only if you heavily play games on phone and want best possible SoC for the money.
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The Poco would probably receive Android 13 in the future. It's a phone with high end specs and Xiaomi usually supports them if they are on the higher end of the spectrum. For Android 14, it's kinda blurry but atleast there are plenty of custom roms to go around when that time comes

JSGuangco said:
The Poco would probably receive Android 13 in the future. It's a phone with high end specs and Xiaomi usually supports them if they are on the higher end of the spectrum. For Android 14, it's kinda blurry but atleast there are plenty of custom roms to go around when that time comes
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Specs doesn't matter, midrange Xiaomi phones receive 1 major update and flagships 2 major updates end of story.

1q3er5 said:
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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I'm genuinely happy with my Poco X3 Pro but it depends on you on what your preferences are for the device you want to buy.
I personally go with phones with high end specs. I'm not really a camera-focused guy. As long as it takes decent photos and videos, it would be fine by me.
Maybe you want a phone with 5g capability and with amoled screen, then go for the A52 5G.
Buy the phone that suits your needs
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Specs doesn't matter, midrange Xiaomi phones receive 1 major update and flagships 2 major updates end of story.
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Hmmmm mmkay

1q3er5 said:
I can't make up my mind between this and a sammy a52 5g. are you guys happy with the quality of the custom ROMS? are you guys OK with the LCD screen? I don't really game much, but even with that point the x3 still has a couple of extra goodies like the ir blaster and fm radio. I just wanna know - ARE YOU GUYS HAPPY with the X3?
What do you despise about the x3 pro? Anyone had experience with both phones?
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Thats sooooooooooo simple and easy...take a Dollar and set one of the Devices to numbers side and the other Device to the second side of the Dolar. Now trow the dollar it in the air and wait for dollar hit the ground. Now you have a choice^^

speedson said:
Thats sooooooooooo simple and easy...take a Dollar and set one of the Devices to numbers side and the other Device to the second side of the Dolar. Now trow the dollar it in the air and wait for dollar hit the ground. Now you have a choice^^
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my last phone was the sammy note 4 - yup I've had it for 6 years and used custom roms. The screen is getting dimmer now and i have connectivity issues. I think the ROM's reallly help extend the useful life of phones which is why i'm leaning toward the poco more

1q3er5 said:
my last phone was the sammy note 4 - yup I've had it for 6 years and used custom roms. The screen is getting dimmer now and i have connectivity issues. I think the ROM's reallly help extend the useful life of phones which is why i'm leaning toward the poco more
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It boils down to this - would you have a Volkswagen or a Skoda? Both will drive you to the same place and back. Both will last some years - ie, little to choose between them in terms of functionality. So what does the decision boil down to? Basically, branding and price. You are the only one who can determine which is more important to you personally.

1q3er5 said:
my last phone was the sammy note 4 - yup I've had it for 6 years and used custom roms. The screen is getting dimmer now and i have connectivity issues. I think the ROM's reallly help extend the useful life of phones which is why i'm leaning toward the poco more
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Pretty much what it is to my Note 2 back in the days, it lasted me 4 years before the charging time basically went from 2 hours to 3+ hours of charging because of the deteriorating usb port of the phone.

Question [CLOSED] Serious Poco x4 pro problems even after latest update ?

I saw this video focusing on various Poco X4 Pro problems including problems with display, camera, fingerprint scanner, microphone and lagging problem on the phone.
<Moderator Edit>: Self-promoting video link deleted.
Can someone explain the Poco X4 Pro Display problem in the video where we can see backlight bleeding on black images under low brightness in dark rooms, Poco X4 Pro camera problem and microphone problem where the camera lags when choosing between various camera modes and how the microphone problem is present whereby the quality of audio recorded by video camera is very poor.
The only problem that I've experienced so far is the Poco x4 pro lagging problem and Poco x4 pro heating problem is also present when playing games like Call Of Duty or PUBG.
I want to check my phone for these problems and get a refund before it is too late if I'm having these.
So my question is where the problems mentioned in the video can be solved by software updates or not ?
Also are these problems present on all Poco X4 Pro phones ?

Sounds like you're having to thoroughly test a phone in strange conditions to look for a problem that doesn't effect you... Can't say I've got any issues with my phone. Fast enough and fluid - use my phone alot at night time and haven't noticed screen bleeding on a pure black image etc but I've not gone out of the way to look either. No lags swapping between camera modes, not a phone gamer so don't care about overheating either.

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Mrajhacker0 said:
I saw this video focusing on various Poco X4 Pro problems including problems with display, camera, fingerprint scanner, microphone and lagging problem on the phone.
Can someone explain the Poco X4 Pro Display problem in the video where we can see backlight bleeding on black images under low brightness in dark rooms, Poco X4 Pro camera problem and microphone problem where the camera lags when choosing between various camera modes and how the microphone problem is present whereby the quality of audio recorded by video camera is very poor.
The only problem that I've experienced so far is the Poco x4 pro lagging problem and Poco x4 pro heating problem is also present when playing games like Call Of Duty or PUBG.
I want to check my phone for these problems and get a refund before it is too late if I'm having these.
So my question is where the problems mentioned in the video can be solved by software updates or not ?
Also are these problems present on all Poco X4 Pro phones ?
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Display Issues - Yes indeed black is not true black under the circumstances mentioned in the video however this is because of just Miui stuff that enhances colors and tries to make stuff look better haven't found it on the (unofficial) Pixel Experience Plus rom
Camera Lag - yes have noticed camera lags and stutters and overall being not so smooth of an experience but i recommend you to use a Gcam as it has none of those problems and even lets you record videos at 1080p 60fps unlike Miui camera
Quality of audio recorded - Okay seriously? That was just dumb his phone might be 2 years old but the price is still more than twice than that of Poco X4 Pro so obviously it would be ahead
Gaming - Unfortunately this is not a gaming device they call it the "All around ace" but i don't see where is the all around ace in the phone?
The branding of this phone is so bad...
People will think since Poco X3 Pro was a beast of a gaming device the X4 Pro would be even better but no not in the slightest
Refund - if you want to you can... there really are better devices for this price segment
remember a good processor can make a lot of stuff good like camera quality, audio processing etc
Can these issues be fixed with a software update
Cough Poco X2, X3, F2 cameras just dying after a software update with no fix even after so long
Cough Cough Poco X3 Pro hard bricking due to system updates and no fix even after so long
Don't you worry mate Miui will come to your rescue to fix every problem you have!

Is it worth getting the Poco X4 Pro?

Mohammad Rafath said:
Is it worth getting the Poco X4 Pro?
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Depends really
If you're living in the Asian countries there's several manufacturers providing you a better buck for your money e.g Iqoo
but if you wanna definitely buy a Xiaomi product then going for the Mi 11X which costs just a tiny bit more than the X4 Pro
Even the 6gb ram variant is far better due to the snapdragon 870 being a beast
In my opinion go for any device that has a snapdragon 8 series processor or the 778G
A processor matters a lot in a device
A good processor can accomplish several tasks with ease
E.g camera quality will be better and you'll most likely have 4k recording
Audio processing better
Rendering is better
Everything will look better since a better GPU
Overall better performance
But if you've already bought the device and thinking if it was worth your buck
imo not really... It lacks several features devices have in this price range even though people coping that this is a great deal
Never trust in the 5g gimmicks people will keep on telling u that the snap 480 5g or the 695 5g processors are amazing but that is a heck of a lie those are old processors overclocked but still way behind the league

BR4UTAL said:
Depends really
If you're living in the Asian countries there's several manufacturers providing you a better buck for your money e.g Iqoo
but if you wanna definitely buy a Xiaomi product then going for the Mi 11X which costs just a tiny bit more than the X4 Pro
Even the 6gb ram variant is far better due to the snapdragon 870 being a beast
In my opinion go for any device that has a snapdragon 8 series processor or the 778G
A processor matters a lot in a device
A good processor can accomplish several tasks with ease
E.g camera quality will be better and you'll most likely have 4k recording
Audio processing better
Rendering is better
Everything will look better since a better GPU
Overall better performance
But if you've already bought the device and thinking if it was worth your buck
imo not really... It lacks several features devices have in this price range even though people coping that this is a great deal
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Thank you for this detailed information, I was still planning to get this phone but as you said iQoo new phones are good too for this price range and Mi 11X is expensive for my budget Also for me display to matters because I hate the LCD in budget phones, AMOLED is good for eyes! I'm going to see the best budget phone with good specs and with snapdragon 8 processors as you said.

Mohammad Rafath said:
Thank you for this detailed information, I was still planning to get this phone but as you said iQoo new phones are good too for this price range and Mi 11X is expensive for my budget Also for me display to matters because I hate the LCD in budget phones, AMOLED is good for eyes! I'm going to see the best budget phone with good specs and with snapdragon 8 processors as you said.
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No problem mate!
I recommend you to stay away from Poco in general though
Their specifications might look very appealing but almost every single phone of theirs has had a major flaw without any explanation provided by Poco
E.g X2, X3, F2 cameras just dying after a system update no fix even after almost 2-3 years
Poco X3 Pro which I'd say is the most appealing phone ever made...
Hard bricking after system update due to low end PMIC's
No fix after almost 2 years
side note: i was a Poco X3 Pro user until about 4-5 months ago when my Poco X3 Pro died after getting Miui 13 update
Luckily still 2 months of warranty was still left but it took almost 2 months to get a replacement and i got the X4 Pro
They were gonna give me the Redmi Note 9 which was absolutely disgusting compared to the X3 Pro so after a few fights here and there and paying about 50$ i got the X4 Pro...

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Mrajhacker0 said:
I saw this video focusing on various Poco X4 Pro problems including problems with display, camera, fingerprint scanner, microphone and lagging problem on the phone.
Can someone explain the Poco X4 Pro Display problem in the video where we can see backlight bleeding on black images under low brightness in dark rooms, Poco X4 Pro camera problem and microphone problem where the camera lags when choosing between various camera modes and how the microphone problem is present whereby the quality of audio recorded by video camera is very poor.
The only problem that I've experienced so far is the Poco x4 pro lagging problem and Poco x4 pro heating problem is also present when playing games like Call Of Duty or PUBG.
I want to check my phone for these problems and get a refund before it is too late if I'm having these.
So my question is where the problems mentioned in the video can be solved by software updates or not ?
Also are these problems present on all Poco X4 Pro phones ?
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The dark mode problem is in hardware or software? Because, in recovery mode, fastboot mode and on first boot poco logo, the display shows pure original black... But when it starts up on miui logo, display's upper side bocomes lcd black not amoled black.. so, what the problem basically is? On software or hardware?

@Mrajhacker0 I've closed this thread. Check the PM I've sent you.

Question Should i buy this phone ? Its seem to be alot of people complain about it

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Depends. I bought the Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus 5g and I love it. In this price range no other phone can beat the sheer balance of performance, battery life and camera quality (with gcam ofc) that this device provides. All of that with a headphone jack and sdcard slot(hybrid but whatever). Most people complaining about gimmicky stuff like 4k and being able to play genshin impact at 60fps. If you are looking for a practical device that will serve you well in all areas this is the device to go for. If you want anything else, like a camera phone or a gaming phone look elsewhere.
Edit: I am fortunate to have a proper device but a handful of people seem to have gotten defective units. I don't know how many of them are Redmi and how many poco however.

Pros:
120hz amoled screen
5000mah battery with VERY fast charge
SOT is great
dolby Atmos dual stereo speakers
Rootable/magisk and has MIUiI EU support
SD card or dual SIM
Aux port
Cons:
No 4k camera? Couldn't care less for videos.
I honestly have none.
I'm very happy with my device. Takes good enough pictures (people complaining about 4k = lol. When's the last time you viewed your 4k videos on a 4k capable screen?)
Sound quality is good, speakers are loud enough. WiFi, BT, GPS and data all work great. I've got no complaints and it ticks all my boxes

I don't like it, screen is not good, easy to scratch. A lot of times I type wrong the keyboard keys, so seems like quality of the screen is way worse than my old Xiaomi 9SE. Rom is full of bloatware, hopefully someone will develop Lineage OS based ROMs. Some freezes, probably because I've tweaked the rom.

My biggest complaint is the processor
Since it's built on old architecture it doesn't support stuff like 4k recording, heck the phone is limited to 1080 30 fps by Xiaomi
with Gcam u can record at 1080p 60 fps but after some testing it seems that's it's actually 1080p 45 fps
also camera is probably worser than any other device in this price range (unless that device too is a snapdragon 695 one)
and performance is really bad like for daily usage it's fine but you cannot game on it for hell
screen is half decent but you can probably see like the 5 threads of screen issues
backlight bleeding is very noticable and screen flickering on 120hz mode
battery backup is crazy good though
and you can expect just about no 3rd party development since Mi Code
The GitHub account which used to release kernel source codes for Miui devices has been dead since Late 2021
also this is the guy who used to work on the Mi Code account
I would be so happy if they named the device something like X4, meme4, joke4, xd4 etc
they have disgraced the legendary X3 pro which took the entire smartphone industry by surprise because of its flagship tier processor and camera

BR4UTAL said:
My biggest complaint is the processor
Since it's built on old architecture it doesn't support stuff like 4k recording, heck the phone is limited to 1080 30 fps by Xiaomi
with Gcam u can record at 1080p 60 fps but after some testing it seems that's it's actually 1080p 45 fps
also camera is probably worser than any other device in this price range (unless that device too is a snapdragon 695 one)
and performance is really bad like for daily usage it's fine but you cannot game on it for hell
screen is half decent but you can probably see like the 5 threads of screen issues
backlight bleeding is very noticable and screen flickering on 120hz mode
battery backup is crazy good though
and you can expect just about no 3rd party development since Mi Code
The GitHub account which used to release kernel source codes for Miui devices has been dead since Late 2021
also this is the guy who used to work on the Mi Code account
I would be so happy if they named the device something like X4, meme4, joke4, xd4 etc
they have disgraced the legendary X3 pro which took the entire smartphone industry by surprise because of its flagship tier processor and camera
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I disagree with a lot of these statements. The performance of this device is very close to flagship levels as most of not all android games with high graphics can easily be played maxed out on this device. The games I've had issues with were either unoptimized or limited by kernel trying to maintain temps. The display is crazy good and makes the device an absolute pleasure to use. All this combined with the pretty much all day battery life, like I get 18hrs easy with 120Hz on, some gaming and some social media and photo taking. Not to mention you get a headphone jack and sd card slot. Now brutal here comes from the Poco x3 which was, like the poco f1 a one of a kind device that will never fit into a regular release schedule. I come from Redmi Note 5 Pro. I'm also using the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ not poco version. I've had no issues in the display side of things. Camera at least on the Indian variant is garbage. Global is fine and gcam works very well despite not having an official build for the device. As for kernel sources I say wait at least a year because I have seen sources come out very late and at least the note line is popular enough that xiaomi would have to drop sources. They know why people but their devices. And development does exist in a very limited capacity. We have a few 3 or 4 roms atm. Oh right the dolby atmos support ootb works wonders for both earphone listening and with the dual stereo speakers. Boy they sound good. Also the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ mirage Blue is one sexy looking device.
Now to the bad stuff. First of the display supports hdr but soc does not. That's fine as I don't really have any hdr content to watch. Even the no 1080p60 video is fine since I don't record much video. BUT NO SUPPORT FOR ANY VIDEO THAT'S 1080P+ IS JUST STUPID. My old whyred could play hi res video without any issue yet this one can't. Official xiaomi apps will simply tell you it's unsupported while mx player resorts to software decoding which is somehow slow as hell.
Overall it's a good device for the price as no other device can boast the number of features, performance, battery life and headphone and sdcard support at this price range. Trust me I checked.
If you are looking for a very well rounded device then definitely go for it. Here was my thought process when I bought my device. I wanted a phone that could click good photos and game well and I had planned to get the Redmi Note 10 Pro but then I compared specs and this device specwise is an upgrade in terms of the display and soc performance. Sd695 is far more powerful than the 732g. And both devices have the exact same camera sensor. So I got this one.

Go for Poco F4. The kernel should be the same as F3, so expect the same development as F3 as more people gets their hands on it. Anything missing is audio jack, bigger battery, and dedicated micro sd slot.

KHSH01 said:
I disagree with a lot of these statements. The performance of this device is very close to flagship levels as most of not all android games with high graphics can easily be played maxed out on this device. The games I've had issues with were either unoptimized or limited by kernel trying to maintain temps. The display is crazy good and makes the device an absolute pleasure to use. All this combined with the pretty much all day battery life, like I get 18hrs easy with 120Hz on, some gaming and some social media and photo taking. Not to mention you get a headphone jack and sd card slot. Now brutal here comes from the Poco x3 which was, like the poco f1 a one of a kind device that will never fit into a regular release schedule. I come from Redmi Note 5 Pro. I'm also using the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ not poco version. I've had no issues in the display side of things. Camera at least on the Indian variant is garbage. Global is fine and gcam works very well despite not having an official build for the device. As for kernel sources I say wait at least a year because I have seen sources come out very late and at least the note line is popular enough that xiaomi would have to drop sources. They know why people but their devices. And development does exist in a very limited capacity. We have a few 3 or 4 roms atm. Oh right the dolby atmos support ootb works wonders for both earphone listening and with the dual stereo speakers. Boy they sound good. Also the Redmi Note 11 Pro+ mirage Blue is one sexy looking device.
Now to the bad stuff. First of the display supports hdr but soc does not. That's fine as I don't really have any hdr content to watch. Even the no 1080p60 video is fine since I don't record much video. BUT NO SUPPORT FOR ANY VIDEO THAT'S 1080P+ IS JUST STUPID. My old whyred could play hi res video without any issue yet this one can't. Official xiaomi apps will simply tell you it's unsupported while mx player resorts to software decoding which is somehow slow as hell.
Overall it's a good device for the price as no other device can boast the number of features, performance, battery life and headphone and sdcard support at this price range. Trust me I checked.
If you are looking for a very well rounded device then definitely go for it. Here was my thought process when I bought my device. I wanted a phone that could click good photos and game well and I had planned to get the Redmi Note 10 Pro but then I compared specs and this device specwise is an upgrade in terms of the display and soc performance. Sd695 is far more powerful than the 732g. And both devices have the exact same camera sensor. So I got this one.
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Although I don't know what you said, but you typed so many words that I think you are right.

liwugen said:
Although I don't know what you said, but you typed so many words that I think you are right.
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I'll admit this isn't the right place to post a review but I am tired of people telling others not to get this phone. Depending on the region this might be the best option for you. If you want headphone jack and sdcard slot it is the only option.