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Slightly different point of view here: I don't need a phone. I need an Android device.
What I currently have is a Galaxy S2 GT-i9100 and a Nexus 7 (2013). What I use them both for is games (80% of the usage), music, internet, pictures, and pretty much everything that is not calling people.
I've been looking at videos of the Nexus 5 but all worthwhile ones are of the 4.4 release version, which I already know was quite terrible, so I wanted to ask - after so many updates, are the camera autofocus, battery and other major flaws fixed? What current weak points does it have (anything you think sucks)?
My budget is not that high so Nexus 6 and 9 are out of the question.
IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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I've never had the chance to check out a Nexus phone, but on the N7 2013, the camera's autofocus is (my own opinion) pretty terrible even compared to phones from 2010 when it comes to video...how is there any constant focusing (or lack of focusing) issues on the N5? Or frame-lag when recording in 1080p?
A year later the N5 is still one of the best phones on the market. It is still blazing fast, smooth as silk, and gaming on it is awesome. I go through Android phones like they are disposable, usually selling them to offset the cost of the new one. Every so often a phone comes around that I just can't bear to part with even though I've since upgraded. The N5 is one of those phones. I'm currently using a 2014 Moto X and an iPhone 6 as my primary devices, but there's just something about the N5 that is preventing me from selling it and I will likely keep it forever. And like JayR_L said, it's easily the best Android experience for the money.
TL;DR- Yes, it is absolutely worth buying.
You should try the Nexus5 and see what you have been missing!
The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this
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The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this
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The same can be said about any phone.
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The same can be said about any phone.
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It drains faster than any other phone
KingUsman said:
It drains faster than any other phone
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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.
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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.
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Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.
I would like to say the same, the nexus 5 is the best experiencie u can get from a android, Excep for the battery and about the heat playing games u guys should see the xperia z2, I'm sure that the battery will last a less twice but that if u aren't afraid of your phone became a fire ball.. I like @_MetalHead_ still having my nexus 5 even when I got the xperia z2, its just hard to sell a phone which have been so amazing and for that long.
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Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.
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You cant compare the Moto G to the N5. It has a much weaker processor than the N5 and as a result it won't get nearly as hot. More power generally means more heat. I've used all the major FLAGSHIPS this year and all of them heat up. The OnePlus One gets so hot you can almost boil an egg on it. Even my 2014 Moto X gets pretty warm with extended gaming sessions.
And again, everyone knows that battery life is not one of the N5's strong suits. Compromises had to be made to offer such a powerful phone at such an affordable price point. Just like compromises had to be made with the Moto G in order to sell it so cheap. If you want raw power, and just ok battery life, go with the N5. If you want a budget phone with great battery life and don't care about processing power, RAM, or screen resolution then save a little money and get the Moto G. Both are great devices for their targeted markets.
I switch from S4 and my wife switch from Note 2, both didn't look back at all.
If you compare to other phone release at that time frame N5 is just perfect, the battery does a little bit weak if compare to current generation (2300ma vs 3000ma+), but you also got OIS, which is really useful and I will say that is a must have.
Talk about heat, N5 got the snapdragon 800, you can expect it generate the same amount of heat with other phone using it, if you found other phone running cool and not as hot as N5 (such as G2, or even G3 but new cpu) that just because they clock down the CPU speed and limit it, LG G2 was known for this, and the G3 my mother using will lock the max cpu speed even when just charging using wireless charge and do nothing.
Just make sure you get the 32GB version, as the system reserve a pretty larger amount of storage.
OP, make your own decision, don't ask random people over the internet, because what you want is different to what we want.
i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.
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i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.
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That's just because data encryption is enabled by default on the N6... The latest Nexus flagship is overall better than its "predecessor" (a word that doesn't fit perfectly the N5), hardware-wise. The only weaker point is, in my opinion, its screen, with its insane resolution but disappointing brightness and color accuracy (even compared to other AMOLED screens).
BTW, our N5 is a great phone indeed. I have been using one as my daily driver for more than one year now, and still I wouldn't like to replace it with any other phone.
Display is great, all apps and the o.s. run fast and smoothly, camera is very good, partly because of the OIS, partly because the software optimizations improved its performance and speed a lot. The only flaw of this phone is its battery, which isn't terrible but just "average". What I really miss is the possibility to replace it when it gets old.
I'm thinking of replacing my N5. Is One plus one, any good? I like the slow motion camera on it.
Thinking of geting the HTC M8 (if S-Off can be achieved) or the Note 4.
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IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!
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5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!
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4-5 hours is average.
I don't mean to rag on the Pixel 3, I have the 3 XL and am pretty happy with it. But compared to my 2 XL, it's really not that much better. I was very happy with my Pixel 2 XL, and I'm so so on my Pixel 3 XL so far.
It's funny how OnePlus have taken the lead on better performing stock Android phones.
Clearly the 6T will be a smoother more fluid operating phone compared to the Pixel 3. Yet this is Google's thing, they created Android, they make vanilla Android. And they charge a much higher price for their Pixel vs a OnePlus, yet somehow OnePlus is besting them on developing a smoother better performing phone.
It's not rocket science what OPO is doing, Google can easily match and beat them in development of the Pixel OS, I just don't know why they aren't ?
Basically the OnePlus phones have taken over the old Nexus spot, and doing better at then Google did. And now Google can't even make their $900 flagship as smooth and fast as a $550 phone.
I'm thinking and hoping the Pixel 4 line will be a major jump for them. I think that will be the full HTC design team and also Android Q will be better and the Snapdragon 855 is supposed to be a major new processor. Plus all the criticism Google's getting on the Pixel 3, I expect next year's phones to be night and day better.
Yeah no. They arent. I have the OP6 and while it is really FAST it is not as smooth as the pixel xl 3 and nor will the 6T be smoother. I do think it will be faster! Not smoother through. There are still dropped frames on the OP6. Not many but there are more often the pixel devices
Don't the One+'s only have HD screens, delayed updates, and ****ty camera's? Last I heard, yes to all. Those three are HUGE dealbreakers for me. And also why they can charge less. I don't think One+ wins at all versus the Pixel 2's or 3's. If the Pixel's used cheaper panels and such, they would probably be a lot cheaper too. And I highly doubt they will out perform the 2's or 3's. In my experience, the only phone's that get any with these are the newer iPhone's.
Just my $0.02
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I don't mean to rag on the Pixel 3, I have the 3 XL and am pretty happy with it. But compared to my 2 XL, it's really not that much better. I was very happy with my Pixel 2 XL, and I'm so so on my Pixel 3 XL so far.
It's funny how OnePlus have taken the lead on better performing stock Android phones.
Clearly the 6T will be a smoother more fluid operating phone compared to the Pixel 3. Yet this is Google's thing, they created Android, they make vanilla Android. And they charge a much higher price for their Pixel vs a OnePlus, yet somehow OnePlus is besting them on developing a smoother better performing phone.
It's not rocket science what OPO is doing, Google can easily match and beat them in development of the Pixel OS, I just don't know why they aren't ?
Basically the OnePlus phones have taken over the old Nexus spot, and doing better at then Google did. And now Google can't even make their $900 flagship as smooth and fast as a $550 phone.
I'm thinking and hoping the Pixel 4 line will be a major jump for them. I think that will be the full HTC design team and also Android Q will be better and the Snapdragon 855 is supposed to be a major new processor. Plus all the criticism Google's getting on the Pixel 3, I expect next year's phones to be night and day better.
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I agree with most of this, I'm buying the OnePlus 6T when it's available and it will become my daily. My Pixel 3 XL will be my backup just like I did with the OnePlus 5T and my Pixel 2 XL.
I'll take my Pixel when I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures but for the most part I'll be using the OnePlus.
When I had my Pixel 2 XL and bought the OnePlus 5T it was just way to easy to put the pixel on the back burner.
The 6 upped the camera game quite a bit, enough so that it will probably satisfy any person I know real life who doesn't see the camera as a primary use of the device. I also think update frequency as a feature is somewhat overrated in general but particularly when compared to someone like Oneplus who have been reasonably timely as of late. IMO a lot of the grief this phone gets in terms of the GUI cludge come from it's rather horrid gesture navigation, poor app switching, and drawer access, all of course related. It's been called out in a number of reviews for those things and I think it's fair comment. They gestures themselves are not ergonomic, lack cohesion, and fail to take advantage of the space lost to the nav area by not removing it all together. That's a lot of fail right where you can't miss it. I'm here but I wouldn't put down OnePlus, their stuff is pretty darn good, not just good for the price.
Google makes the OS and your saying OnePlus makes a better OS. That's silly.
They may tweak or add skins but they don't make crap. So, If you compare apples to apples for hardware and then evaluate stock Android vs OOS, l would be surprised if it were significantly faster.
Doesn't Google downclock the 845? Yes 2500mhz and OP 6 clocks at 2800. With only 3300 mAh battery, that may equal worse battery life, I dunno. But the P3 XL and OP6 are not equal hardware to evaluate the OS.
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Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
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Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
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That is EXACTLY what I did. I'm now really liking it now.
Agreed, starting to feel the love now.
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Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
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i used the oneplus gestures on my 6 (just to get a feel, i enabled nav buttons then hid them and downloaded the op gestures)
the swipe area at the bottom of the screen is almost un-selectable, when my keyboard comes up i cant select anything where the swipe gesture recognises a swipe, does this happen on the Pixel? i thought maybe its just how its implemented on the oneplus 6
It's been fine, I just tried both keyboards without anyt problems. You do have a brief return window to play with if you want to verify it yourself. I ran into that on an AOSP ROM and never did find an answer.
I came from OP6 to P3XL
I miss some of the features of my OP6..
Like screenshot editing options in terms of cropping (not finding it on PX3L)
Using OnePlus Gestures app from playstore definitely makes things SO MUCH BETTER.
But i am noticing stuttering and such on P3XL , but then again with 8GB of ram on my OP6 i noticed stuttering and a lot of visual hiccups that literally should never happen.
What else? I'm not missing else much from the Op6....
I am also moving from the OnePlus6 to the Pixel 3 XL which should be in my hands on the 01/11 (for you americans thats 1st Nov lol) and the OnePlus gestures is the frst thing I will be putting on as well as hiding the nav bar to get the same sort of experience.
And to reiterate what others have said the UI on the OnePlus 6 is fast but definitely not that smooth, camera is now pretty poor too.
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I am also moving from the OnePlus6 to the Pixel 3 XL which should be in my hands on the 01/11 (for you americans thats 1st Nov lol) and the OnePlus gestures is the frst thing I will be putting on as well as hiding the nav bar to get the same sort of experience.
And to reiterate what others have said the UI on the OnePlus 6 is fast but definitely not that smooth, camera is now pretty poor too.
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OP6 is clocked slightly more than 10% higher than P3, thus faster.
"Just like it did last year, Google has underclocked the CPU of the Snapdragon 845 chipset that powers the Pixel 3 phones. The big Kryo 385 Gold cores are at 2.5GHz (0.2GHz down) and the smaller Silver cores are at 1.6GHz (0.1GHz down). This is done to improve battery life and should only impact peak performance, no CPU today can hit its max clocks under a sustained workload." gsmarena
Little ones too...
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The feature i miss the most from OP6 is the app locker and the quick gestures that you use to draw while your screen is off. The applocker IMO is excellent since when you go into recents it will block the thumbnail for privacy before you put your PIN/fingerprint. Any of you found any 3rd party apps as good as these for the P3XL?
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I came from OP6 to P3XL
I miss some of the features of my OP6..
Like screenshot editing options in terms of cropping (not finding it on PX3L)
Using OnePlus Gestures app from playstore definitely makes things SO MUCH BETTER.
But i am noticing stuttering and such on P3XL , but then again with 8GB of ram on my OP6 i noticed stuttering and a lot of visual hiccups that literally should never happen.
What else? I'm not missing else much from the Op6....
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Cropping is there, along with a plethora of other options. Just got to take time to learn how to use the editor
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Every year I upgrade to the latest S series device. But I end up getting bored and honestly want something different in between. I'm highly considering getting the one plus 7 pro because of the new 90hz 6.7 display . Anyone make the switch from the S10+ and regret it? I used to love the idea of rooting and custom roms so that might be a nice touch to keep me interested in the device. Just wanted some opinions, the note 10+ also has my attention because of ufs3.1 and the slightly tweaked cameras. Price isn't really a factor
I did and haven't looked back...
More freedom and less bloatware
Don't upgrade from S10+, because it's the same processor. Wait until next year to get a phone with a X55 5G modem (better than this year's X50 5G).
Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
I bit the bullet and ordered one. Yes I realize it had the same basic specs, and I can live with the features I'll be losing. Worse case scenario I keep the S10+ and sell the 7 Pro. I'm praying the display is close to par with the AMOLED screen, and the larger screen size will be a bonus too. I'm expecting the software and the fluentness to impress me. Anyone know if there's a way to disable the volume slider though, not a fan of the physical slider.
90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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90hz IS ABSOLUTELY NOT a gimmick and every other phone to me looks painful after looking at amazing refresh rate of my phone. The 90hz is the real icing on top for this phone which is great in every single way. Great battery life which has been doing nothing but getting better with time due to the phone optimizing itself based on your usage. The screen is big and notch/ hole punch free and the sound is nice and loud while being crisp at the same time. And the camera is not the best but it's not disappointing either. I'm happy with it and I take a decent amount of pictures.
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However, should you move from an S10+ to this
I'm not too sure about that. Unless it's an even trade or you throw in like 50 bucks towards it stay where you are.
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Since your asking in the op7pro forum most will say this is the best what ever there reasons. But I've had the device 2 times and bought times got rid of it... 90hz refresh is a gimmick, not realistic... I've own the s10 plus and it does not have that much bloatware and almost everything is uninstallable. I didn't like the one plus design,you can root but meh more problems the stability, cameras have improved since launch but still not up to par, good battery life, sound is decent. The s10 plus had everything you could want and if you get the exynos you can root if you want. (and don't let yourself be fooled by reviews of exynos not being as good as SD it's not true) I've used it and played the same games on both s10 plus and op7pro. My recent op7pro I traded it for a mate 20 pro 8/256 twilight.... All I can say is this is the best phone I have ever used, yes it does have a notch but I have never mind that sound can come out low but there's an app that fixes thatthing else just insane. It haves a 60hz refresh and it feels smoother that any other Android I've had.
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Just Compare Pes 2019 on high settings on both exynos & sd. You'll know the difference. Regarding 90 hz I can say that after using this Device If I scroll in App Drawer in my Xs Max I can literally see the icons stuttering or dragging.
Screen Doesn't gets as bright but it is comparable to iPhone on natural mode. I would suggest OP if he's using a SD S10 he should stick with it. Also I would suggest to Uninstall the Netflix app pre installed,If You Don't want dark videos
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90hz a gimmick? WTF? Yeh so are 120hz screens and 4k tv . You must be 1/100000 that can't notice the difference.
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Apparently, running at 90Hz slightly decreases graphical performance on the OnePlus 7 Pro.
Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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Don't switch from a S10 - you won't notice enough benefit.
Sure, having a screen with no notches or cutouts is nice; and yes, *some* things look better at 90Hz, but it kills your battery quicker, and actually, I don't really mind about scrolling smoothness in Chrome - I'd far rather like the extra refresh in all games (which you DON'T get right now).
Also, you'll loose wireless charging, IP68, and being honest, a bit of build quality. If you're really thinking of leaving the S10, how about going to the Note 10 instead?
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As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I agree 90Hz refresh is a gimmick. People experience a placebo-type effect, I think. The only worthwhile upgrade would come next year when X55 5G modems get used. The S10+ is fantastic, but I didn't buy it because of no bootloader unlock on US Snapdragon variants.
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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90hz gimmick. Placebo effect lmaoooo.... 90hz 120hz. Is the future. Processors are already fast enought and are limited by the 60hz hardware. What 90hz does is increase os fluidity(smoothness) by 50%. Now when i loom at my iphone xs max which suppost to be the smoothest phone around. It look jerky stuttery and not smooth.... Not because it is, is because of the 60hz limitation. Is the same that your car is really fast. Can beat most car on a race.... Now u demo a much faster car (50% faster). U will be so impress....that When u go back to ur car. U will feel it so slow.... Not because it is. Is because u demo a much faster car. After a few day of driving ur car u will then again see that ur car is fast. Same with 90hz 120hz
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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No it doesnt. There app not optimize for 90hz,. Just like benchmarking apps which even if un have 90hz will run the 3d games a 60hz... Now use the mod of forcing 90hz on everything. By the way. I get 9hour sot forcing 90hz all time and 1440p (qhd). I hear people complaining that it drain ur battery. Like if 90hz u will only get 2 hour sot. .. if 9hour sot with 90hz on is not good enough. I really know no what are people expecting
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You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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This is absolutely correct. Anything else is like saying "Concorde is a faster plane than a spitfire" - they're NOT comparable!
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As someone who has tried both, there is a huge difference. The S10+ is a laughable phone compared to the OP7Pro. Scrolling looks laggy, apps open slower, worse game performance, worse thermals, Terrible standby drain, Ugly front camera, Slow fingerprint, broken Snapchat camera, etc. The list goes on and on
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I was unaware that Snapchat had dedicated cameras on either the S10+ *OR* the OnePlus 7 Pro. I stopped bothering to read after that statement!
I didn't like the s10+ and I switched to Op7 pro.
Another planet imho, I really enjoy this phone and I never miss my s10+, cameras too.
Exynos s10+ is garbage imho, really not such a good device as review tell.
OP7 pro beats/pair s10+ in everything in my daily use, and this is my first OnePlus phone...Never going back to Samsung honestly!
Sreen is so better on op7 pro in my opinion, never liked the s10+ screen because of reduced blue light filter.
Oh, and vibration. Dude, really? The vibration on op7 pro is gorgeous...
Warp charge destroy s10+ exynos charge time, and battery is similar but op7 pro doesn't consume so much on standby and when using camera.
My op7 pro never get hot when I'm using it.
Just some random thoughts...
Love this phone!
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Another positive OnePlus 7Pro review today...
jhofseth said:
You need to compare apples to apples: the only meaningful comparison is the OnePlus 7 Pro to itself. For example, tell a friend to switch it 60Hz or 90Hz and not tell you which one; then, without checking settings, see if you can guess which is which.
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bruh..i mean i get it, some are fanboys and like their brand, but honestly... 90hz is definately noticable if you dont see it you just wont accept that something beats your loved phone somewhere
and the exynos samsung phones are just not worth the price, the processor is just garbage compared to the sd variants (compared a note 9 with exynos with s9 with sd and s9 was better in nearly every way)
anyway back to the topic:
samsung phones have more, if not all features you want or need, like if you already have a samsung device (watch eg) it makes sense to stay with samsung because it seems to function just better, but if you want a clean smooth experience just grab a op7 pro and feel good
So, according to the new store page, in comparison to the pixel 4/xl they cut
- Soli
- Faceunlock
- Pixel Neural Core (WHAT?! Why?!)
- Tele-Lens
- Highend Chipset
- Active Edge
- QHD+ Display (from 537 ppi down to 432 ppi )
- ip68 rating (ty u/kelderic, reddit)
And they 'gave' us
+ bigger battery
+ fingerprint (why not both?!)
+ 5G
+ wide (remember Google from last year? "We don't need wide, tele is good")
- Measly +2 GB Ram, still no storage available beyond 128 GB
What do you guys think 'bout that?
Compared to the Pixel 4/xl this just feels like a downgrade, even to the Pixel 3xl it's no real upgrade. Most people who think budget will not turn to this phone and the highend-spenders will not be pleased by this. I don't see googles angle hear, however they haven't shown any good angle recently anyway. And the heck did they remove the neural core? Plus getting a weaker soc.. just madnes.
Apparently neural core made face unlock work quicker so no loss there.
About the only thing I would prefer is higher ppi but I sure don't want to spend $1000 to get it.
My next phone will be 5G so pixel 4/xl aren't an option.
If it's not enough bang for the buck then just wait for black Friday and/or opt for the 4a 5G.
Google phones have never been the best phone for everyone.
Most likely the machine learning Ai stuff is included in the snapdragon 765 so no more dedicated chip is necessary. I would not worry too much
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Most likely the machine learning Ai stuff is included in the snapdragon 765 so no more dedicated chip is necessary. I would not worry too much
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No it is not included. Where did you get that idea?
darkoroje said:
No it is not included. Where did you get that idea?
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https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-765-specs-1059745/
"Finally, Qualcomm’s fifth-gen AI engine is ported over partially intact, with a Hexagon 696 DSP with a dedicated Tensor Accelerator. The setup sports 5.5TOPS of AI compute."
So still I don't know what Google are using but they wouldn't get rid of it if it impacts performance much. So I don't worry
The Samsung S20FE will be competition at the same MSRP, includes Snapdragon 865, 120hz display, 4500mah battery. Appears to be on sale for $599. Of course it isn't a clean google phone.
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https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-765-specs-1059745/
"Finally, Qualcomm’s fifth-gen AI engine is ported over partially intact, with a Hexagon 696 DSP with a dedicated Tensor Accelerator. The setup sports 5.5TOPS of AI compute."
So still I don't know what Google are using but they wouldn't get rid of it if it impacts performance much. So I don't worry
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Seems to be the case https://m.gsmarena.com/the_new_pixe...nt_mean_they_lack_the_features-news-45589.php
The pro is the camera will be brilliant and it's running stock android.
Pretty much everything else about the pixel 5 sucks
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The pro is the camera will be brilliant and it's running stock android.
Pretty much everything else about the pixel 5 sucks
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Yeah, good battery life, more than enough processing power for non gamers really sucks
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Yeah, good battery life, more than enough processing power for non gamers really sucks
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Good battery life remains to be seen.
I stand by my original statement, however I suppose I could have made it more clear...for a mid ranger it's fine.
For a flagship (which it isnt). It sucks.
Better?
Pros:
A pure Google software experience
Fingerprint sensor is back( no more awful face unlock)
1080p screen
4080mAh battery
Aluminum back (well, mostly)
Cons:
That awful hole punch (that has me considering canceling my order)
Ultra wide camera replacing the telephoto
Too big
Slow processor
Active edge is gone
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Sure, we technically don't know what the battery life will be but just knowing a little bit about phone hardware and some common sense indicates that the battery life should be pretty good.
The biggest battery drain on any phone is the screen mainly due to the screen resolution. So take the Pixel 4 XL for example. The battery life wasn't too bad but not great either. Now increase the size of the battery 10%, decrease the number of pixels by 42%(that alone is huge), decrease the overall screen area by 11%, add in a slightly more power efficient processor, remove Soli and remove face unlock and you basically have the Pixel 5. The only thing really working against the Pixel 5 in terms of battery life is the 5G which I'm going to turn off anyways. I have no concerns about the battery life of the Pixel 5.
The more interesting comparison is to the 4a. A significant price difference but both are a similar size and real world performance would be similar too.
This just leaves wireless charging, IP and maybe 90hz as the tangible differences you would notice day to day. Maybe it will feel more premium in hand too but that is hard to know right now.
I got the 4a with the intention of giving it to one of my parents with the 5 landed, I am now hesitating though as the 4a is terrific and I am not sure the 5 is £250 better.
great battery life great phone.
I have only had my pixel 5 for a week and i am super impressed with the battery life. I have been getting 3 days out of it . At the moment it has 25 % left and it's used 8 hours and 26 minutes of screen use , that's using google to simply surf the net and as I am a distribution driver i use Google Maps daily, I also make multiple calls daily and use Bluetooth all day for my vans multi media unit and my zenwatch 3 all day I am 61 years old so I have had tons of phones and I have to say i think this phone stacks up with the best including the Asus rog 3
Pros: Battery, form factor/weight, software.
Con: Price for what is being offered. The speakers are just OK. The gap issue from production quality. Luckily I was able to get my P5 for net cost of about 461 including tax after stacking a bunch of promos, etc. Also no gap issue on mine.
I'm not an iPhone fanatic so I have nothing to say about the iPhone 12. The only phone that I currently have and would recommend is the S20FE, but not at MSRP AND if it doesn't have these touch screen issues that people are talking about. Only thing with Samsung phones is that you have to spend additional time to customize to your liking and reducing bloat. I was also pleasantly surprised with the camera qualify after making settings adjustments to reduce saturation and softening in photos.
After using mine for about a week, I am kind of regretting trading in my 4XL for one reason....the ear speaker quality. It is literally the worst sounding earpiece and is extremely quiet relative to my 4XL. I was driving on the highway yesterday and could barely hear my client on the other end. Had to plug in my wired headset. Unacceptable. I will probably send in for a new unit to see if its any better, but everyone seems to have the same comment as I.
I can settle with almost every concession Google took, and I do think the fingerprint is a big welcome back feature. I hate face unlock especially with having to wear masks. Never made sense to me. The hole punch doesnt both me.
As far as Active edge is concerned. I guess, apparently the feature isn't 'official' on the Pixel 5.
Check the apps,mods section here on xda.
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toneneuewin said:
Pros: Battery, form factor/weight, software.
Con: Price for what is being offered. The speakers are just OK. The gap issue from production quality. Luckily I was able to get my P5 for net cost of about 461 including tax after stacking a bunch of promos, etc. Also no gap issue on mine.
I'm not an iPhone fanatic so I have nothing to say about the iPhone 12. The only phone that I currently have and would recommend is the S20FE, but not at MSRP AND if it doesn't have these touch screen issues that people are talking about. Only thing with Samsung phones is that you have to spend additional time to customize to your liking and reducing bloat. I was also pleasantly surprised with the camera qualify after making settings adjustments to reduce saturation and softening in photos.
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I've sold my FE for the Pixel. The screen issues are annoying albeit the last update seems to have sorted it, but I just cannot live with the Samsung nonsense like cannot delete Samsung photos app and playing a dance to get to Google Photos
It's a great phone the FE but not when you are Googled up for home and work and can't be bothered working around 2 of everything
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I've sold my FE for the Pixel. The screen issues are annoying albeit the last update seems to have sorted it, but I just cannot live with the Samsung nonsense like cannot delete Samsung photos app and playing a dance to get to Google Photos
It's a great phone the FE but not when you are Googled up for home and work and can't be bothered working around 2 of everything
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The Pixel 5 is great. It just works out of the box. I'm enjoying mine and it has been a couple of weeks. You can debloat Samsung, but obviously that's additional steps. It's not hard, but quite frankly I just don't want to invest time with custom ROMs, adb commands, etc. Those days are long gone lol.
No me neither, I don't even want to root phones anymore can't be bothered
The FE would be a winner of Samsung ran stock Android
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No me neither, I don't even want to root phones anymore can't be bothered
The FE would be a winner of Samsung ran stock Android
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A bit true..but this would never happen. Htc had 1 model with 2 versions ...one with htc software and one with google only ...
I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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Battery life could be better, but if your UI is slow and stuttery it usually means some background task is running at high priority constantly. That would also explain your terrible battery life.
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Battery life could be better, but if your UI is slow and stuttery it usually means some background task is running at high priority constantly. That would also explain your terrible battery life.
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Oh trust me, I checked all of that, and set practically everything to not run in the background.
I've also had the S21U before and didn't have that issue (despite not even bothering to change the background allowances).
Something else that's really strange to me;
I bought a Tab S8 too. Same processor, same RAM as the Ultra, and I've had no issues with the UI. It's great. Completely fluid and smooth.
CConn882 said:
I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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Battery life is nothing to write home about...but for my uses it lasts me a the whole day not a problem...but not much more than that. As for the slowness, jerkiness and stuttering, I do not experience that and I have mine set to wqhd+ mode. Performance is one thing I have been very happy with (I have the 12GB/512GB version).
I think it's a masterful device. No issues at all on my end.
What an odd question? If it were a bad phone, how come you bought it?
Call the S22 Ultra bad, disappointing or whatever adjectives fit. Bottom line it has more reported defects than any Samsung device in many years. If you're happy good for you but as we can see many users aren't thrilled with the performance of this very expensive device. It is what it is.
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Call the S22 Ultra bad, disappointing or whatever adjectives fit. Bottom line it has more reported defects than any Samsung device in many years. If you're happy good for you but as we can see many users aren't thrilled with the performance this very expensive device. It is what it is.
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While I tend to agree, do you have any sources for that tidbit? So I can use it in the future
S21 Ultra has come a long way in terms of updates/bug fixes and I strongly feel S22 Ultra needs major updates to be on par with S21 Ultra as far as as UI/smoothness is concerned.
Unless both S21U and S22U are used side by side(with latest firmwares installed), probably one will not be able to feel the difference and might end up saying "no UI/lag issues with S22 Ultra".
As for batterylife, I did several tests using same mobile operators, on same location, over same Wi-Fi network - on similar settings+usage pattern(mostly) and the batterylife of S22 Ultra(Snapdragon) turned out to be way less than S21 Ultra(Exynos). Going further, I did factory reset both, waited for over a week to settle down and ended up having the same experience.
The overall experience with 22U isn't the best yet considering its potential and I hope to see a lot of these issues getting fixed through future updates.
I have had no issues with lag or stutter. I suspect that you may have a defective device perhaps?
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S21 Ultra has come a long way in terms of updates/bug fixes and I strongly feel S22 Ultra needs major updates to be on par with S21 Ultra as far as as UI/smoothness is concerned.
Unless both S21U and S22U are used side by side(with latest firmwares installed), probably one will not be able to feel the difference and might end up saying "no UI/lag issues with S22 Ultra".
As for batterylife, I did several tests using same mobile operators, on same location, over same Wi-Fi network - on similar settings+usage pattern(mostly) and the batterylife of S22 Ultra(Snapdragon) turned out to be way less than S21 Ultra(Exynos). Going further, I did factory reset both, waited for over a week to settle down and ended up having the same experience.
The overall experience with 22U isn't the best yet considering its potential and I hope to see a lot of these issues getting fixed through future updates.
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The s21u (Exynos) wasn't great when I first got it after release. It really improved with the big update it got last August which was supposed to be OneUI 3.1 but wasn't actually called that. I'm hoping the S22u gets a similar update this year. The April update improved the S22u (Exynos) for me but I think it still has a way to go before is can really be called "flagship".
S22 Ultra EXYNOS 512/12GB is the worst Samsung's flagship what I owned and I almost had all of them from S series before.
So poor UI and lagging performance I really starting to hate it. Battery performance I have to charge twice during working day! I'm not a mobile gamer at all. Hopefully Samsung will finally fix it with May update as already delayed as too many problems overall with crappy Exynos this year. On top of it 45W charging it is a joke
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..... On top of it 45W charging it is a joke
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100% agreed.
For better experience i suggest change animation length from x1 for 0,5 in developer option. I do it in every samsung device and i feel a lot of better running UI than before.
But i agree with above users that S22U still need updates for better running.
Comparing side by side my Fold 2 (yes android 11 is the best opton for fold, most stable and fast) to S22U.
Fold 2 with snapdragon 865+ is noticeably faster in opening for example default apps like phone dialer, messages, web browser etc and scrolling same webs fold 2 is smoother than S22U.
At this moment in my opinion S22U is only little better in day performance from Note 20U Exynos but skipping battery life which is a lot of better than Note.
But overall i like my S22U like previous Note series except Note 20 U
as _grizzly_ stated, ive not had animations turned on since they were first implemented back in gb days, not only does it save battery it makes the ui faster, we dont need it to look fancy switching between screens, we need it to do it quickly, that wont be a fix to all your issues but all journeys start with a single step
I'm fully updated. No issues at all. It does everything it's supposed to do. Battery life is sh1te though / no getting round that point! But it's really no worse than any other leading Samsung device I've had in the past few years. They all drop at about 10% per hour.
I have the absolutely worst version of the S22U I guess. 8/128gb, Exynos.
No issues whatsoever. Fast, smooth, good battery. No lag or crashes for the two weeks I've had it.
So FWIW I have no complaints.
Camera setup is mindblowingly good for a phone, quite frankly ridiculously good.
The only minor minus would be the lack of proper native 960fps slomo (very niche thing anyway) but that's about it. S22U does some AI interpolation stuff there, and that's okay with me I guess. I'd rather have a better overall sensor there than one tailored for Tiktokers.
I've upgraded from an 8GB/512GB Exynos Note9 to a Snapdragon 12GB/512GB S22Ultra (S9080) and I couldn't be happier. Battery life is quite frankly amazing. The UI is buttery smooth. I don't like the in-display fingerprint sensor as much as the rear one from the Note9 and the form factor is a fair bit bulkier, but on the whole I'm personally very happy. Maybe I've just been very lucky.
A good Android phone has fastboot mode...