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Better Batt: One S or Nexus 4?

What the subject says... thanks.

Well considering the Nexus 4 runs on stock Android and the battery is 2100 maH; the One S is only 1650mAh and running Sense I'm pretty sure the Nexus 4's battery life is going to be way better.

You can't judge yet because the 4.2 version on the nexus phones is buggy as anything, not performing as well as it could.
In theory it should be the best there is (apart from the likes of the note II, MAXX etc.), S4/adreno 320 + very power efficient IPS display and a next gen 2100mAh battery with very well optimised software = great battery life.
Currently going by reviews the one S battery sounds way better at the minute, even the optimus G (with LG's software) is better!
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sense V4 is very well optimised with the S4 chipset etc. it shouldn't make much difference if any at all compared to the S running on stock android when it comes to battery life. Plus we don't need a huge battery as we only have a 4.3" qHD display, not a 720P 4.7"+ display like the nexus 4 etc. plus we have the most power efficient chipset there is, so there really is no need for the bigger battery especially when the battery life is already the best there is (4-5 hours spread across 1-3 days with heavy usage) aside from the likes of the note II, MAXX etc.
Although I wouldn't have minded sacrificing a few mm for a bigger battery.
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Actually do stock based android ROMs like CM 10 etc. not have worst battery life compared to sense based ROMs?

I love the One S but I'm considering the N4 if batt is better, bigger screen, and jb. If batt is worse, then I probably will just keep my One S.

Legaleye3000 said:
I love the One S but I'm considering the N4 if batt is better, bigger screen, and jb. If batt is worse, then I probably will just keep my One S.
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You'll have jb before the middle of December...so that's not really a good reason to switch. Battery on the other hand is
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Vandam500 said:
Well considering the Nexus 4 runs on stock Android and the battery is 2100 maH; the One S is only 1650mAh and running Sense I'm pretty sure the Nexus 4's battery life is going to be way better.
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I don't know about that. I read a review that said the battery life was considerably worse than the LG Optimus G although it is a variation of the phone and that they were sort of disappointed with that. But I mean wireless charging is pretty cool and I hope it becomes standard. hehe
I believe the battery life trumps the HOX and the S3 though, not sure in comparison with the HOS though. I'm assuming the Nexus get about 12 hours with moderate use...

AndrewAmazed said:
I don't know about that. I read a review that said the battery life was considerably worse than the LG Optimus G although it is a variation of the phone and that they were sort of disappointed with that. But I mean wireless charging is pretty cool and I hope it becomes standard. hehe
I believe the battery life trumps the HOX and the S3 though, not sure in comparison with the HOS though. I'm assuming the Nexus get about 12 hours with moderate use...
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That was most likely due to software problems... I mean several reviews said the phone was overheating. Also, Google is constantly working on it, pushing out updates and such. By the time they release it, or shortly after (I hope not) they'll have it all fixed.
Software can have a HUGE impact on battery life, especially when they're porting it to a new cpu and everything. Having to write new drivers and all.
It'll have batter battery life than the One S, or at least the same.

i have few question for z3 users

hello mates right now i have a htc one x and i really want to make it retired and leave it to my sister.
in my country iphone 6 is very expensive and with that specs for me its an waste of money, 6+ is very big , 6 is perfect for me but have something like 1800 mah or 1900 mah battery my hox already have 1800 mah and its a pain.
im stuck between z3, g3, and m8. z3 have superior specs than rivals and epic battery life which is very important for me. if you ask why? im using my htc one x nearly 2 years. with this months 21. day it will be complete 2 year. i never used my phone without power saving. getting into clash of clans and collecting the resources drains %10 of my battery.
right now i wanna ask you guys how is the z3? still it didnt released in my country (im from turkey,the land of great taxes) so i dont have any idea about phone. i just saw some pictures, watch reviews and read some specs thats it
my hox have a wifi problem which is a design fault edit: also i send my phone to the guarantee like 4th time because of wifi problem
did z3 have any problems? i heard about glass cracking problem but it only showed up 0.6% of the z3's
my head little bit mixed between this amiral ships.
for the m8 im really scaring about battery which is 2600 mah
but i really love its design. also im really get used to sense ui after sense z3's ui looks bit ugly
anyway if you guys can guide me i will be very happy

bullx said:
hello mates right now i have a htc one x and i really want to make it retired and leave it to my sister.
in my country iphone 6 is very expensive and with that specs for me its an waste of money, 6+ is very big , 6 is perfect for me but have something like 1800 mah or 1900 mah battery my hox already have 1800 mah and its a pain.
im stuck between z3, g3, and m8. z3 have superior specs than rivals and epic battery life which is very important for me. if you ask why? im using my htc one x nearly 2 years. with this months 21. day it will be complete 2 year. i never used my phone without power saving. getting into clash of clans and collecting the resources drains %10 of my battery.
right now i wanna ask you guys how is the z3? still it didnt released in my country (im from turkey,the land of great taxes) so i dont have any idea about phone. i just saw some pictures, watch reviews and read some specs thats it
my hox have a wifi problem which is a design fault edit: also i send my phone to the guarantee like 4th time because of wifi problem
did z3 have any problems? i heard about glass cracking problem but it only showed up 0.6% of the z3's
my head little bit mixed between this amiral ships.
for the m8 im really scaring about battery which is 2600 mah
but i really love its design. also im really get used to sense ui after sense z3's ui looks bit ugly
anyway if you guys can guide me i will be very happy
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Depends on what you want really.
One M8 is huge and has a smaller screen than both Z3 and G3.
Z3 and M8 have much better speakers than the G3.
Z3 and M8 are more premium design than G3.
G3 has higher res screen, but there's no point in having 1440p screens on a smartphone.
Z3 has far brighter screen than M8 or G3.
Z3 has far better battery life than M8 or G3.
G3 feels much better in the hand compared to M8 or Z3.
M8 has the better software compared to G3 and Z3. HTC are very good with updates as well.
One thing I will say, all three phones are very easy to drop. Z3 is slippery glass, G3 slippery plastic, M8 slippery metal. G3 and Z3 are much easier to hold though due to them being much smaller than the M8.

I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.

istrikerx said:
Depends on what you want really.
One M8 is huge and has a smaller screen than both Z3 and G3.
Z3 and M8 have much better speakers than the G3.
Z3 and M8 are more premium design than G3.
G3 has higher res screen, but there's no point in having 1440p screens on a smartphone.
Z3 has far brighter screen than M8 or G3.
Z3 has far better battery life than M8 or G3.
G3 feels much better in the hand compared to M8 or Z3.
M8 has the better software compared to G3 and Z3. HTC are very good with updates as well.
One thing I will say, all three phones are very easy to drop. Z3 is slippery glass, G3 slippery plastic, M8 slippery metal. G3 and Z3 are much easier to hold though due to them being much smaller than the M8.
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dragonfet said:
I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.
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thx for answers. i really liked the m8 i will look for it one more time so its still in list. how is the z3's durability? i always use my phones with case and screen protection.
is z3 and z3c's cpu better than m8, g3 and s5?
and did z3 have heat problem like at the z2?

bullx said:
thx for answers. i really liked the m8 i will look for it one more time so its still in list. how is the z3s durability? i always use my phones with case and screen protection.
is z3 and z3cs cpu better than m8, g3 and s5?
and did z3 have heat problem like at the z2?
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Doesnt the M8 only have 2gb if RAM?

jonshipman said:
Doesnt the M8 only have 2gb if RAM?
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i never notices it have 2gb ram. i just check it you're right m8 have 2gb ram
so z3 have superior ram, camera, battery on m8 but what about cpu?
edit: also did z3 have heat problem like z2 have?

I own 2 G3's (F460S, D850) currently and here's my take:
The G3 has the best camera (OIS and laser for fast auto focusing , faster than any phone I've used)
The 2k screen is noticeably better (I had a Note 3 before this and you can tell the difference in resolution)
The speaker on the G3 is louder/better sounding than the Note 3 and S5 (I haven't tested it against the m8)
The G3 UI is very clean and simple without being too heavy.
The G3 is the size of the Z3 maybe a little smaller with a bigger screen.
I love my G3's but I'll probably get a Z3 as a backup phone however I don't think I'd use it as a primary.

I have had the d850 "ATT Brand" G3 for awhile now. Having had an HTC for my last 3 phones I was hesitant, but I've grown very fond of the G3. It is very simple u.I. great screen and battery life as well. Most features stock on G3 are what people were wanting on an AOSP ROM after rooting. I thought this was awesome! I'm coming from the HTC One and while the Boomsound speakers sounded great at first they deteriorated over time. The G3s speaker is excellent and with good quality tones or music the hi-fi shines and sounds great. Everyone will have different opinions or problems, likes/dislikes with any product. Actually they're all great devices I'd pick the one which best suits you. Good luck!
Is that an iPhone 6 ?......."LMFAO!!!!"… said my G3

I would say go for the M8 or the Z3. Both are excellent.
The M8 handles gaming better on the battery, the speakers on the M8 are far better than the Z3, so is headphone volume.
Screens are comparable, but Z3 is brighter, M8 is better quality (White balance etc) in my opinion.
Can't go far wrong with either. Z3 if you aren't gaming too much, M8 if speaker quality and gaming are important.
Camera is probably a little better on Z3 except with moving targets.

Jonathan-H said:
I would say go for the M8 or the Z3. Both are excellent.
The M8 handles gaming better on the battery, the speakers on the M8 are far better than the Z3, so is headphone volume.
Screens are comparable, but Z3 is brighter, M8 is better quality (White balance etc) in my opinion.
Can't go far wrong with either. Z3 if you aren't gaming too much, M8 if speaker quality and gaming are important.
Camera is probably a little better on Z3 except with moving targets.
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i didnt get the "m8 handles gaming better on battery" part. i love gaming but m8 have 2600 mah battery, z3 have 3100 mah battery also got 2 power saver modes (stamina, ultra stamina)
i read on websites they said m8 have the worst camera compared to its rivals. z3 have solid 20.7 mp but m8 have 4mp with a ultrapixel sensor.
also i heard boomsound is worse than beats?
anyway its an old smartphone compared to its rivals. first i was waiting for m9 but it will released at 2015 first quarter.its a long time and i cant continue with hox anymore

wolf0491 said:
Got my Z3 on Friday. Been loving it so far. Battery seems very promising. I used to be at work and looking for a charger before I would leave. Now at that same point I have 50% battery....lol
I do play some game and that is what mainly makes my battery time less than most people on here but I still am very impressed by the amount I have left after like 14 hours.
Performance so far has been lag free for me. screens all seem to open and close right when I click.
looks are my favorite. It is just a sexy phone IMO
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thanks for the information mate. did you have any heat problem? in gaming or video recording? and how is the speaker
dragonfet said:
I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.
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well i mosty use whatapp, 3G Mobile Data is nearly always online, and play some games after the htc one x experience im thinking twice for htc
Pilz said:
I own 2 G3's (F460S, D850) currently and here's my take:
The G3 has the best camera (OIS and laser for fast auto focusing , faster than any phone I've used)
The 2k screen is noticeably better (I had a Note 3 before this and you can tell the difference in resolution)
The speaker on the G3 is louder/better sounding than the Note 3 and S5 (I haven't tested it against the m8)
The G3 UI is very clean and simple without being too heavy.
The G3 is the size of the Z3 maybe a little smaller with a bigger screen.
I love my G3's but I'll probably get a Z3 as a backup phone however I don't think I'd use it as a primary.
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traesnaidensdad said:
I have had the d850 "ATT Brand" G3 for awhile now. Having had an HTC for my last 3 phones I was hesitant, but I've grown very fond of the G3. It is very simple u.I. great screen and battery life as well. Most features stock on G3 are what people were wanting on an AOSP ROM after rooting. I thought this was awesome! I'm coming from the HTC One and while the Boomsound speakers sounded great at first they deteriorated over time. The G3s speaker is excellent and with good quality tones or music the hi-fi shines and sounds great. Everyone will have different opinions or problems, likes/dislikes with any product. Actually they're all great devices I'd pick the one which best suits you. Good luck!
Is that an iPhone 6 ?......."LMFAO!!!!"… said my G3
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well my friend is using a g2. i was recommend it to him when he was a bit confused between samsung and lg and he was a samsung fan.
he just love it, also he says "you must get g3, i test it and after the g2 experience i totally recommend it to you, you must be insane if you not think to buy g3"
also i loved the laser focusing but some users says in turkish forums they having issues with laser focusing.
well in my country these phones are bit expensive. i mean im pretty sure i will use it min 1 year so im just trying to do the right choice for myself.

bullx said:
thanks for the information mate. did you have any heat problem? in gaming or video recording? and how is the speaker
well i mosty use whatapp, 3G Mobile Data is nearly always online, and play some games after the htc one x experience im thinking twice for htc
well my friend is using a g2. i was recommend it to him when he was a bit confused between samsung and lg and he was a samsung fan.
he just love it, also he says "you must get g3, i test it and after the g2 experience i totally recommend it to you, you must be insane if you not think to buy g3"
also i loved the laser focusing but some users says in turkish forums they having issues with laser focusing.
well in my country these phones are bit expensive. i mean im pretty sure i will use it min 1 year so im just trying to do the right choice for myself.
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I have never had an issue with the laser focusing and I have had a G3 since it launched in Korea back in late may/early June. The G3 is a good phone I do like the Sony as well but it has too many issues currently for me to buy it.

wolf0491 said:
@bullx compared to xperia Z this phone doesn't seem to get hot while gaming. I do feel some warmth of course but nothing close to my old phone. This may of course be dependent on what games and what length you play at
Sent from my Xperia Z3
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thanks for the info mate, i think it will be cooler than my hox when gaming
did you try 4k video recording? here is the reason why im asking :
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2014/09/sony_xperia_z3_sony_improves_overheating_problems_advises_short_term_recording_only/
did you test 4k video recording yet?
Pilz said:
I have never had an issue with the laser focusing and I have had a G3 since it launched in Korea back in late may/early June. The G3 is a good phone I do like the Sony as well but it has too many issues currently for me to buy it.
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well im just worried about camera(13mp s5 have 16, z3 have 20.7), battery and if i read correctly there is a little lag at the ui (mainscreen, menu etc) because of the high resolution screen
also issues like what? i only know about glass crack and overheating when recording 4k. i dont wanna buy a phone with issue anymore. my hox still in guarantee because of wifi. this is the 4th time i send them.i requested device change this time
here is the battery test i copy from phonearena.com
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bullx said:
thanks for the info mate, i think it will be cooler than my hox when gaming
did you try 4k video recording? here is the reason why im asking :
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...g_problems_advises_short_term_recording_only/
did you test 4k video recording yet?
well im just worried about camera(13mp s5 have 16, z3 have 20.7), battery and if i read correctly there is a little lag at the ui (mainscreen, menu etc) because of the high resolution screen
also issues like what? i only know about glass crack and overheating when recording 4k. i dont wanna buy a phone with issue anymore. my hox still in guarantee because of wifi. this is the 4th time i send them.i requested device change this time
here is the battery test i copy from phonearena.com
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I have used 4k recording and my phone doesn't get hot. Keep in mind I had the SD805 version of the G3. Also while battery life isn't as good as Sony (I get 5hours SOT on a good day ) I can replace the battery in less than 20 seconds. I have 2 batteries since my phone is the Korean version and it comes with a spare battery and charger. This is why the battery life isn't a big deal. The biggest thing I want is a waterproof phone, I love my G3 and I plan to keep it but the waterproofing is what I like about Sony. My wife has a s5 and I hate the physical home button so I thought Sony would be a good choice.
My phone has 0 lag I uploaded a short video of the onscreen nav of my phone I'll post the link down below. Its very smooth (~48k on antutu is pretty good) and I'm running the stock ROM rooted with no performance mods. If I ran AOSP it would certainly be faster and get better battery life. Each has their own advantage I will eventually get Sony or another as a backup, I just don't want to go through the hassle of getting s lemon.
Here is the video (I use Nova launcher in case you were wondering):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/apmizdhkbx100f8/2014-10-01 23.12.23.mp4?dl=0

Moto X Play performance

Hi everyone!
There are debates about Qualcom 615 (adreno 405) performance. Could share your empressions about speed, lugs and else.
How smooth it works with browsers, heavy apps and games.
Thanks)

Tbh, I don't see much difference with a Moto X 2013 updated to 5.1. Snappy, browsing is cool as usual, you can switch from one app to another quite fast and well, everyday tasks are "Motorola as usual", y'know?
I feel like the keyboard swipping tray is at a low fps though. and it's quite annoying, anyone else have that problem?
Specs wise... Well, the clockspeed is the same as the 2013, but it has double the cores. My Antutu score with the X Play is 33k and 28k with the 5.1 2013.
I'm not really demanding performance-wise (no 3D games, etc.) but I definitely notice it when my music lags when I open another app (started doing that on my 2013 with the 5.1 update :/), and the X Play doesn't do that, yay!

alenym said:
Tbh, I don't see much difference with a Moto X 2013 updated to 5.1. Snappy, browsing is cool as usual, you can switch from one app to another quite fast and well, everyday tasks are "Motorola as usual", y'know?
I feel like the keyboard swipping tray is at a low fps though. and it's quite annoying, anyone else have that problem?
Specs wise... Well, the clockspeed is the same as the 2013, but it has double the cores. My Antutu score with the X Play is 33k and 28k with the 5.1 2013.
I'm not really demanding performance-wise (no 3D games, etc.) but I definitely notice it when my music lags when I open another app (started doing that on my 2013 with the 5.1 update :/), and the X Play doesn't do that, yay!
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Thanks for your comment. As I understood there is no any critical issues whith performance, it's smooth and fast?

I'm considering upgrading from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a drop in a performance. Anyone upgraded from a 800 series snapdragon mobile?

simacca said:
I'm considering upgrading from my Galaxy s5 mainly for the extra battery life, but am worried about a drop in a performance. Anyone upgraded from a 800 series snapdragon mobile?
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I'm coming from a few devices. I mostly used the Nexus 6 and I can tell this phone isn't as fast as the N6. There are way more micro lags on the X Play. But, the flip side is the camera is much better and the battery actually lasts all day, so I can deal with some lag here and there.

^Pretty much echoes my opinions compared to my Zenfone 2

I do feel those micro lags, and sometimes it pisses me off , i'm looking forward to get Moto X style , it's not that X play is bad, still kept my LG g4 and Galaxy S6 in the drawer so you get the point . When i get the X Style i might switch back to X play because of the battery is very good.

I'm curios why they didn't just put in a last gen 800 series cpu-gpu. I get they are trying to save money but I really don't think this is the solution. Due to initial benchmarks, the 615 is slower than a SD 800 in almost every category and even the multi-core is slower. I'm much rather have a faster quad-core than a slower octa-core. Does anyone else agree or am I missing something in the octa-core debate?

Battery life and cost are my guesses.

Yeah I think it's exactly what Devhux said. Well battery life could be less of a concern on a big.LITTLE architecture, but Motorola isn't exactly known for putting cutting edge technology in its phone!
I really think it's the cost, to keep it under the 400$ (cad) mark.

I've turned my animation scales down to .5x in the developer settings. It's definitely making a difference. I don't mind the 615. I really want to get the Style but I can't imagine battery life will be very good. Too much screen.

alenym said:
Yeah I think it's exactly what Devhux said. Well battery life could be less of a concern on a big.LITTLE architecture, but Motorola isn't exactly known for putting cutting edge technology in its phone!
I really think it's the cost, to keep it under the 400$ (cad) mark.
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Of course, it's also entirely possible that Motorola is being very conservative with the CPU Governor as well. Given that the phone barely even gets warm to the touch (unless maybe playing games), there's a good chance custom kernels could unlock a bit more performance for us. We've got the battery capacity to allow for some tweaking, and I can't wait to see what happens.
My main point of comparison is the Asus Zenfone 2, which I've always enjoyed considered "smooth." Of course, battery life and the camera are absolutely destroyed by the Moto X Play. Display is also better (and brighter) on the Moto.

Coming from the S6 Edge this phone feels auch faster. I'm very happy...also the battery lasts like twice as long

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I've turned my animation scales down to .5x in the developer settings. It's definitely making a difference. I don't mind the 615. I really want to get the Style but I can't imagine battery life will be very good. Too much screen.
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Did you turn down all three animation scales options to 0.5x?

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Did you turn down all three animation scales options to 0.5x?
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Yes I did. There's still a decent amount of lag but it's definitely better.

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Yes I did. There's still a decent amount of lag but it's definitely better.
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Guys, I did the same and my Xplay is a little beter now. But, sometimes I feel that the touch screen is not sensitive. I have a z3 too, and the touch is very sensitive, every little touch in screen, z3 reconize it, but the Xplay, I have to touch with more "force".
Do you also feel that ?!
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Guys, I did the same and my Xplay is a little beter now. But, sometimes I feel that the touch screen is not sensitive. I have a z3 too, and the touch is very sensitive, every little touch in screen, z3 reconize it, but the Xplay, I have to touch with more "force".
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I haven't had an issue with touchscreen sensitivity on my Moto X Play. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and Galaxy S6.

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I haven't had an issue with touchscreen sensitivity on my Moto X Play. I'm coming from a Nexus 6 and Galaxy S6.
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Very strange.
The touch is exactly the same, no differences ?
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I find the touch sensitivity on the Moto X Play is lower than the Galaxy S6, but not by a huge amount. It's not that the S6 felt more sensitive per se, it's that it felt more...consistent.

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I find the touch sensitivity on the Moto X Play is lower than the Galaxy S6, but not by a huge amount. It's not that the S6 felt more sensitive per se, it's that it felt more...consistent.
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Coming from a g3, but this.

This phone has been....one of the best buys I ever had.

I mean, the phones I had before weren't bad, they simply just...couldn't really stand up to the Moto X Play. And they were high end phones too! Can you imagine?
I had the M8 before and then the Nexus 6. (more phones before those 2 but irrelevant)
Sure, the M8 had incredible speakers and a crystal clear display, same with the nexus 6. M8 had a nice build as well. But what always had me a little annoyed is the sense of security they lacked in battery.
Oh suuure, I will be the first to admit the 615 isn't too swell in day to day performance in Android itself, but it plays emulated games perfectly, plays games perfectly, does everything I need it to do, and the performance issues are highly overblown sometimes. 99% of the time it works just as well as any other high end phone.
What you get in return is decent speakers, decent screen, sturdy build, and an AMAZING battery life. This is the first phone where I think: Don't need a powerbank for this monster.
The SD card slot is very useful too, definitely and the camera? It's decent! Not bad, not amazing, just decent, but then we're talking about a midranger here. If Motorola had just put a Snapdragon 800 in here it would be the absolute perfect phone, but it's not a big deal either way. Marshmallow made big improvements in performance too.
Tell me, why do you love this phone?

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I mean, the phones I had before weren't bad, they simply just...couldn't really stand up to the Moto X Play. And they were high end phones too! Can you imagine?
I had the M8 before and then the Nexus 6. (more phones before those 2 but irrelevant)
Sure, the M8 had incredible speakers and a crystal clear display, same with the nexus 6. M8 had a nice build as well. But what always had me a little annoyed is the sense of security they lacked in battery.
Oh suuure, I will be the first to admit the 615 isn't too swell in day to day performance in Android itself, but it plays emulated games perfectly, plays games perfectly, does everything I need it to do, and the performance issues are highly overblown sometimes. 99% of the time it works just as well as any other high end phone.
What you get in return is decent speakers, decent screen, sturdy build, and an AMAZING battery life. This is the first phone where I think: Don't need a powerbank for this monster.
The SD card slot is very useful too, definitely and the camera? It's decent! Not bad, not amazing, just decent, but then we're talking about a midranger here. If Motorola had just put a Snapdragon 800 in here it would be the absolute perfect phone, but it's not a big deal either way. Marshmallow made big improvements in performance too.
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Battery performance for this phone is its core strength. For camera, I won't say it's decent. In daylight, it's amazing for the detail you can get. Yeah in low light noise creeps in but that's mainly due to high resolution of the sensor. The display is very bright at highest point and even at lowest it's much but bright. Yeah its back levels won't match an amoled display but it's an lcd after all. Sound quality on earphones is much much better for me.
The performance is great for me although there are little micro lags but that's nothing to worry about at least for me. The 6.0.1 files have leaked and I am going to flash them today as improvements have been reported.
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Biggest thing motorola could have done to drasticaly improve the phone is to put the Adreno 415 or 420 in the chipset to give it graphics grunt.They probably didnt because it would undercut the Style and Pure editions.
Apart from the somewhat weak graphics this phone is an absolute gem for the money

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I mean, the phones I had before weren't bad, they simply just...couldn't really stand up to the Moto X Play. And they were high end phones too! Can you imagine?
I had the M8 before and then the Nexus 6. (more phones before those 2 but irrelevant)
Sure, the M8 had incredible speakers and a crystal clear display, same with the nexus 6. M8 had a nice build as well. But what always had me a little annoyed is the sense of security they lacked in battery.
Oh suuure, I will be the first to admit the 615 isn't too swell in day to day performance in Android itself, but it plays emulated games perfectly, plays games perfectly, does everything I need it to do, and the performance issues are highly overblown sometimes. 99% of the time it works just as well as any other high end phone.
What you get in return is decent speakers, decent screen, sturdy build, and an AMAZING battery life. This is the first phone where I think: Don't need a powerbank for this monster.
The SD card slot is very useful too, definitely and the camera? It's decent! Not bad, not amazing, just decent, but then we're talking about a midranger here. If Motorola had just put a Snapdragon 800 in here it would be the absolute perfect phone, but it's not a big deal either way. Marshmallow made big improvements in performance too.
Tell me, why do you love this phone?
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I totally agreed! With all my Nexus phone prior this one I was pissed that the battery life was sooo horrible. I am a light user for the screen time (no games or long time videos watching) and I couldn't make it for 2 days without recharging. So I was looking this time for a phone with a really good battery time, a decent camera, a stock or close to stock firmware and something around $400 CDN. This phone is what I was looking for and even better then I expected. I like it so much that I even won a Galaxy 6 Edge+ in December and sold it because I was very satisfied with my Moto X Play. I Also just can't stand Touch Wiz user interface plus that $850 was really welcome in my pocket!

Lol. This is what we were all telling you both in the performance thread. It's a great phone once you know what to expect from it. Very solid performer

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Lol. This is what we were all telling you both in the performance thread. It's a great phone once you know what to expect from it. Very solid performer
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Except maybe I bricked it. See my other thread.

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Except maybe I bricked it. See my other thread.
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Dude you're fine. Soft bricks are always salvageable.

Is battery of pixel 2 good enough?

I do like everything about this phone except battery size. Its sad that google did not upgraded battery and it remain 2700mAh which is rather poor for this price range . Would it give at least 4 hour screen on time with this capacity ? If not then what else phone you will recommend with camera as good as pixel 2 ?

I would expect similar to slightly better than last year's Pixel battery life. My opinion is based on what I've seen from next gen devices from the beginning of Android.

Rajaasim1980 said:
I do like everything about this phone except battery size. Its sad that google did not upgraded battery and it remain 2700mAh which is rather poor for this price range . Would it give at least 4 hour screen on time with this capacity ? If not then what else phone you will recommend with camera as good as pixel 2 ?
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I have the Z2 Force. With my usage between the Z2, S8+, Note8, and my Nexus 5X they get similar numbers with the 5X being the lowest overall time. Z2 Force did a lot better than I expected and people thought the battery was way too small.
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I would expect similar to slightly better than last year's Pixel battery life. My opinion is based on what I've seen from next gen devices from the beginning of Android.
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I have not used normal pixel though pixel XL was great in battery but what was the average screen on time for last year pixel with same battery size?

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I have the Z2 Force. With my usage between the Z2, S8+, Note8, and my Nexus 5X they get similar numbers with the 5X being the lowest overall time. Z2 Force did a lot better than I expected and people thought the battery was way too small.
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Yes I have also used 5X and excellent camera but very poor battery as i was getting maximum 2.30 to 3 hour screen on time so have returned it . 6P has no good reputation about battery either.
we dont have z2 force in here and i assume its camera is not as good as you get from note 8 or pixel..By the way if you have used boht note 8 and s8 plus then which camera is better between these two?

thought because of sd835, amoled display and 3520mAh batterylife will be nice but we will see in reviews.

Rajaasim1980 said:
Yes I have also used 5X and excellent camera but very poor battery as i was getting maximum 2.30 to 3 hour screen on time so have returned it . 6P has no good reputation about battery either.
we dont have z2 force in here and i assume its camera is not as good as you get from note 8 or pixel..By the way if you have used boht note 8 and s8 plus then which camera is better between these two?
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I am not much of a camera guy. They both look better than the Z2. I give the Note8 the edge because of camera tricks you can do cause other than that I can't tell the difference between photos. Personally if you like photos you can't go wrong with either.
The Z2 has those mods going for it. Personally I use 2 mods. The projector and the battery. With the battery I get 3 days of usage between charges. The projector I use it to watch something at night in my bed. Great for my neck lol.
Personally if I can get 6 hours of SoT per day is all good for me.
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I am not much of a camera guy. They both look better than the Z2. I give the Note8 the edge because of camera tricks you can do cause other than that I can't tell the difference between photos. Personally if you like photos you can't go wrong with either.
The Z2 has those mods going for it. Personally I use 2 mods. The projector and the battery. With the battery I get 3 days of usage between charges. The projector I use it to watch something at night in my bed. Great for my neck lol.
Personally if I can get 6 hours of SoT per day is all good for me.
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6 hour screen on time is excellent and few phones can give this SOT with consistency
I had s7 edge before and was happy with battery(5 to 6 hour SOT on 4G) but still photography was not as good as on Pixel or even Nexus 5x/6p .
I don't know why high end phones don't look at battery department because all midrange or low end phones coming up with 4000mAh aand 5000mAh capacity and that also on 720 p screen . I don't mind extra weight as long as battery is excellent

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6 hour screen on time is excellent and few phones can give this SOT with consistency
I had s7 edge before and was happy with battery(5 to 6 hour SOT on 4G) but still photography was not as good as on Pixel or even Nexus 5x/6p .
I don't know why high end phones don't look at battery department because all midrange or low end phones coming up with 4000mAh aand 5000mAh capacity and that also on 720 p screen . I don't mind extra weight as long as battery is excellent
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Sadly that's the problem. There are people want thinner, waterproof, and lighter phones. There has also been no strides is battery for the hardware department. There's some promising projects but the costs currently isn't worth it.
Ironically the only reason why I got the battery mod for my Z2 was because that phone is lighter than the 5X.
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The original pixel would last me a solid day. I don't watch a lot of videos though so... If you're a youtube fanatic you're probably screwed.

yeah, pixel 1 is 2700mah and it seems ok..honestly, i get the same battery life out of this (if not better) than i did my v20 which was like 3200mah

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The original pixel would last me a solid day. I don't watch a lot of videos though so... If you're a youtube fanatic you're probably screwed.
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I don't know too much about YouTube on mobile usage, but generally video playing doesn't requires too much finger input and that's what consumes more battery. And I don't consider YouTube in WiFi to be so battery killer.
What really kills my battery are video calls......I never had a good battery with video calls.

I don't think your statement about YouTube giving you better battery is accurate at all. In fact I think that's completely false. Almost everyone review site uses screen on while running video because streaming , brightness, and video all eat up your battery quicker than say a static e-reader image.
For instance, almost every review site uses video run down tests on the phone. The run down tests usually knock a battery out in half the SOT.

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I don't think your statement about YouTube giving you better battery is accurate at all. In fact I think that's completely false. Almost everyone review site uses screen on while running video because streaming , brightness, and video all eat up your battery quicker than say a static e-reader image.
For instance, almost every review site uses video run down tests on the phone. The run down tests usually knock a battery out in half the SOT.
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You are right, I don't know too much about YouTube because I always use it via WiFi. I should had mentioned "video playing" (and not YouTube), so I don't bring the battery consumption used by LTE modem into this. I'll edit my post.
Now, in my experience browsing (tapatalk, whatsapp, chrome, all the apps that constantly requires you to be touching the display) consumes more battery than a video (at least a local video or movie downloaded in your memory).

It's about the same capacity as last year, and the s835 seems to be rather more efficient than the s820/821 judging by other manufacturers' results, so I expect it will be fine.