Better Batt: One S or Nexus 4? - HTC One S

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Well considering the Nexus 4 runs on stock Android and the battery is 2100 maH; the One S is only 1650mAh and running Sense I'm pretty sure the Nexus 4's battery life is going to be way better.

You can't judge yet because the 4.2 version on the nexus phones is buggy as anything, not performing as well as it could.
In theory it should be the best there is (apart from the likes of the note II, MAXX etc.), S4/adreno 320 + very power efficient IPS display and a next gen 2100mAh battery with very well optimised software = great battery life.
Currently going by reviews the one S battery sounds way better at the minute, even the optimus G (with LG's software) is better!
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sense V4 is very well optimised with the S4 chipset etc. it shouldn't make much difference if any at all compared to the S running on stock android when it comes to battery life. Plus we don't need a huge battery as we only have a 4.3" qHD display, not a 720P 4.7"+ display like the nexus 4 etc. plus we have the most power efficient chipset there is, so there really is no need for the bigger battery especially when the battery life is already the best there is (4-5 hours spread across 1-3 days with heavy usage) aside from the likes of the note II, MAXX etc.
Although I wouldn't have minded sacrificing a few mm for a bigger battery.
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Actually do stock based android ROMs like CM 10 etc. not have worst battery life compared to sense based ROMs?

I love the One S but I'm considering the N4 if batt is better, bigger screen, and jb. If batt is worse, then I probably will just keep my One S.

Legaleye3000 said:
I love the One S but I'm considering the N4 if batt is better, bigger screen, and jb. If batt is worse, then I probably will just keep my One S.
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You'll have jb before the middle of December...so that's not really a good reason to switch. Battery on the other hand is
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Vandam500 said:
Well considering the Nexus 4 runs on stock Android and the battery is 2100 maH; the One S is only 1650mAh and running Sense I'm pretty sure the Nexus 4's battery life is going to be way better.
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I don't know about that. I read a review that said the battery life was considerably worse than the LG Optimus G although it is a variation of the phone and that they were sort of disappointed with that. But I mean wireless charging is pretty cool and I hope it becomes standard. hehe
I believe the battery life trumps the HOX and the S3 though, not sure in comparison with the HOS though. I'm assuming the Nexus get about 12 hours with moderate use...

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I don't know about that. I read a review that said the battery life was considerably worse than the LG Optimus G although it is a variation of the phone and that they were sort of disappointed with that. But I mean wireless charging is pretty cool and I hope it becomes standard. hehe
I believe the battery life trumps the HOX and the S3 though, not sure in comparison with the HOS though. I'm assuming the Nexus get about 12 hours with moderate use...
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That was most likely due to software problems... I mean several reviews said the phone was overheating. Also, Google is constantly working on it, pushing out updates and such. By the time they release it, or shortly after (I hope not) they'll have it all fixed.
Software can have a HUGE impact on battery life, especially when they're porting it to a new cpu and everything. Having to write new drivers and all.
It'll have batter battery life than the One S, or at least the same.

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[Q] best battery and camera

Hi,I want to change my sensation.I'd like to buy a new phone with good camera and battery life.
I had to decide betwen 3 device:galaxy sIII (removable battery and good camera),htc one x(better camera but poor battery life)and nexus 4(good device and battery,but with camera I saw different opinion).I'm a fan of HTC from many years,but last battery decision is wrong for me.
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I'd go with the Nexus 4. To be honest, a phone camera, no matter how good, is still a phone camera. Yes, some phones may produce slightly nicer pictures than others, but unless you start comparing them side by side, you're really not going to be disappointed with any of the phones you listed. Setting aside the camera as a major consideration, the Nexus 4 is going to give you the best overall experience. The screen is downright gorgeous, the battery is solid, and not being a third party phone means you will be able to load the latest and greatest builds of android right out of the gate.
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I'd go with the Nexus 4. To be honest, a phone camera, no matter how good, is still a phone camera. Yes, some phones may produce slightly nicer pictures than others, but unless you start comparing them side by side, you're really not going to be disappointed with any of the phones you listed. Setting aside the camera as a major consideration, the Nexus 4 is going to give you the best overall experience. The screen is downright gorgeous, the battery is solid, and not being a third party phone means you will be able to load the latest and greatest builds of android right out of the gate.
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thankyou Vincent. I like very much htc one x for sense too,but battery is a really bug for me .What about n4 battery life with your use?HTC drain battery very quicly when screen on,
If you can, try the One X+. It's the refreshed version with much better battery life and larger internal storage.
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If you can, try the One X+. It's the refreshed version with much better battery life and larger internal storage.
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I saw it,but the price is out of budget
You can prefer Note II also for longer battery life
I like the freedom of a removeable battery and can't see myself going back to a device where it can't be swapped / replaced. I would have loved to get the N4, but this was a dealbreaker along with lack of micro SD card. It depends on what is important to you.
zanfo said:
Hi,I want to change my sensation.I'd like to buy a new phone with good camera and battery life.
I had to decide betwen 3 device:galaxy sIII (removable battery and good camera),htc one x(better camera but poor battery life)and nexus 4(good device and battery,but with camera I saw different opinion).I'm a fan of HTC from many years,but last battery decision is wrong for me.
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Based on your choices, I would suggest you get the Galaxy SIII and get a expendable battery (probably 4200mAh if you don't mind bulky or OEM 3000mAh which is slimier). You get best of both worlds, good camera and good battery life :good:
thanks guys for replyes.Now i'm in troble for g iii or htc one x plus(used).The second have little more battery life and newer,but who have better camera?I don't like samsung,but I think to have to buy it...
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thanks guys for replyes.Now i'm in troble for g iii or htc one x plus(used).The second have little more battery life and newer,but who have better camera?I don't like samsung,but I think to have to buy it...
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Both HTC one plus X and Samsung Galaxy S3 are using 2100mAh battery so there is no which one is longer or shorter battery.
Both camera shots are comparable since after the latest update for S3.
Consider things like removable battery which can be upgradable to higher mAh, expandable SD Card which able to store more photos, music, videos etc....
Its quite clear that Samsung Galaxy S3 do have the edge over HTC one plus X.
Hope this will help you make your choice.
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Both HTC one plus X and Samsung Galaxy S3 are using 2100mAh battery so there is no which one is longer or shorter battery.
Both camera shots are comparable since after the latest update for S3.
Consider things like removable battery which can be upgradable to higher mAh, expandable SD Card which able to store more photos, music, videos etc....
Its quite clear that Samsung Galaxy S3 do have the edge over HTC one plus X.
Hope this will help you make your choice.
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I think 64 gb of htc can be sufficient,for camera I think that it's personal opinion,have to try both to decide,too many different views on that matter.
zanfo said:
I think 64 gb of htc can be sufficient,for camera I think that it's personal opinion,have to try both to decide,too many different views on that matter.
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Finally I buy th htc one x plus.Hope the rigth choise
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The Galaxy S9 Plus is the best camera phone around.

Is Nexus 5 big enough upgrade from SGS3?

I have the chance to buy tomorrow the Nexus 5 16GB (no 32GB model available at the local store where I would buy it).
I just don't see it being a huge upgrade from my SG3.
Camera is still 8 megapixel (and probably won't take much better pictures), still 1080P video recording, only 0.2 bigger screen (but 1080P IPS, with cooler colors but much brighter), battery is just 200mah bigger (probably both have same battery life throughout the day. It's not a huge upgrade. G2 battery would be a huge upgrade), speakers are actually worst, no microSD (I have a 32GB microSD inside), etc.
I do prefer stock Android 1000 times more than any other skin, plus updates.
What do you guys think? Should I buy the Nexus 5 or maybe a bigger upgrade like the G2 or wait for next years top smartphones like HTC One 2014 or SGS5?
Thanks.
I came from the S4 and actually am very happy with my choice. The phone has flaws just like all phones do. But it is extremely snappy and smooth. And the camera is actually way better than the S3. Look at the Picture thread here. And battery life is pretty good for me. About 22hrs unplugged and 4-5 screen on time has been achieved. I have even seen better. I would definitely recommend, espically if you love stock Android. The only issue I really have is that the speakers aren't the greatest, but are no where near bad. I love this phone. ?
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Sensamic said:
I have the chance to buy tomorrow the Nexus 5 16GB (no 32GB model available at the local store where I would buy it).
I just don't see it being a huge upgrade from my SG3.
Camera is still 8 megapixel (and probably won't take much better pictures), still 1080P video recording, only 0.2 bigger screen (but 1080P IPS, with cooler colors but much brighter), battery is just 200mah bigger (probably both have same battery life throughout the day. It's not a huge upgrade. G2 battery would be a huge upgrade), speakers are actually worst, no microSD (I have a 32GB microSD inside), etc.
I do prefer stock Android 1000 times more than any other skin, plus updates.
What do you guys think? Should I buy the Nexus 5 or maybe a bigger upgrade like the G2 or wait for next years top smartphones like HTC One 2014 or SGS5?
Thanks.
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I've come from an S3 gt-i9300
Camera is shed loads better (its not about mpx)
Screen is more realistic (although blacks aren't as deep)
Battery is LOADS better (snap dragon is low power)
Graphics capabilities a million times better
Much MUCH faster phone
much better memory management
Depends which S3 you had but so much better than the international version (its ridiculous)
The 16 GB version is really easy to fill though
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What carrier are you on?
rootSU said:
I've come from an S3 gt-i9300
Camera is shed loads better (its not about mpx)
Screen is more realistic (although blacks aren't as deep)
Battery is LOADS better (snap dragon is low power)
Graphics capabilities a million times better
Much MUCH faster phone
much better memory management
Depends which S3 you had but so much better than the international version (its ridiculous)
The 16 GB version is really easy to fill though
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Yeah, I've got the international version, which practically has zero multiasking due to the 1GB RAM and Touchwiz taking 80% of that.
Camera is really much better? I'm actually happy with the SGS3 camera, so if it is similar I would be happy too. I just expected a much bigger improvement whatever phone is next.
I wont game at all with the phone (I do that with my Nexuw 7), so I actually prefer bigger battery and better camera than performance/graphics. That's why I'm also considering the LG G2.
I love stock, but maybe on a phone it's more important to have even bigger battery and camera than stock experience and updates?
coorsleftfield said:
What carrier are you on?
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Vodafone, Europe.
Sensamic said:
I have the chance to buy tomorrow the Nexus 5 16GB (no 32GB model available at the local store where I would buy it).
I just don't see it being a huge upgrade from my SG3.
Camera is still 8 megapixel (and probably won't take much better pictures), still 1080P video recording, only 0.2 bigger screen (but 1080P IPS, with cooler colors but much brighter), battery is just 200mah bigger (probably both have same battery life throughout the day. It's not a huge upgrade. G2 battery would be a huge upgrade), speakers are actually worst, no microSD (I have a 32GB microSD inside), etc.
I do prefer stock Android 1000 times more than any other skin, plus updates.
What do you guys think? Should I buy the Nexus 5 or maybe a bigger upgrade like the G2 or wait for next years top smartphones like HTC One 2014 or SGS5?
Thanks.
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Nexus 5
-pure stock vanilla android 4.4
-Snapdragon 2.3GHz quad-core processor
-2GB of RAM
-Adreno 330 GPU.
-HD IPS 1080 x 1920 (445 ppi)
Galaxy s3 (assuming its the u.s version)
-skinned android 4.0 out of the box (should be on 4.3 now)
- 1.5 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4
dual-core
-HD 720 x 1280
-2GB RAM
(International version same exact thing just quad core exynos I believe and 1gb ram)
I personally would have to say that the nexus 5 is definetly a big upgrade from a galaxy s3,also in my opinion a way much better and more fluid device.if your trying to get something as of now the the nexus 5 is your best bet.
Sensamic said:
Yeah, I've got the international version, which practically has zero multiasking due to the 1GB RAM and Touchwiz taking 80% of that.
Camera is really much better? I'm actually happy with the SGS3 camera, so if it is similar I would be happy too. I just expected a much bigger improvement whatever phone is next.
Vodafone, Europe.
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My wife's GS3 was acting funny..turns out she updated the TMobile Account app, which re-enabled the CarrierIQ spyware crap. As I was troubleshooting her GS3, I found it EXTREMELY laggy, and stuttering on just about every touch event, even after a full ram clear and reboot and freezing TMO CarrierIQ apps (there were 3). After spending a half-hour on it, I could NEVER return to that phone as a daily driver...the Nexus 5 is THAT good. Nix..that GREAT. I already bought her a nice XMas gift, but now I'm thinking of getting her a Nexus 5 just so I don't have to endure the GS3 again.
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Camera is really much better?
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Better in low light
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You should see some big gaines over the G3. I have the LG G2, which is the same CPU/GPU and it blazes. There are plenty of S4 users that moved up to the G2/N5. I'd think going from TouchWiz > AOSP would be big enough gains to switch.
Nexus 5, LG G2, and Note 3 are all basically the same hardware with little obvious perks for each.
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You should see some big gaines over the G3. I have the LG G2, which is the same CPU/GPU and it blazes. There are plenty of S4 users that moved up to the G2/N5. I'd think going from TouchWiz > AOSP would be big enough gains to switch.
Nexus 5, LG G2, and Note 3 are all basically the same hardware with little obvious perks for each.
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Yeah, going to AOSP is the biggest improvement IMO. It would be great, as it will never slow down, not even with future updates.
The only thing holding me back right now is battery. I would love a huge battery, like the ones in LG G2 and Note 3. But then, who knows if software will still be fluid in one or two years... But I would hate having only 2-3 hours screen on time with the Nexus 5.
Very difficult decision.
Not really, since you are buying it from a store just get it and test it out then return it if you don't like it enough. Simple as that.
I upgraded from a Galaxy S3 and I am very pleased.
I did get a 32GB online. Much of my pleasure comes from dumping Sprint and my old contract, and starting with Straight Talk/AT&T. superior LTE data speeds at a savings of around $ 40 a month.
S4 all the way in my opinion
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I found the N5 to be a substantial upgrade over the S4, which in turn was a sizeable upgrade over the S3. When I pick up my wife's S3 and do anything with it, it feels like I'm stepping back in time. The screen in particular is a joke by comparison, and the GPU is pretty weak. She doesn't get impressive battery life either.
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I found the N5 to be a substantial upgrade over the S4, which in turn was a sizeable upgrade over the S3. When I pick up my wife's S3 and do anything with it, it feels like I'm stepping back in time. The screen in particular is a joke by comparison, and the GPU is pretty weak. She doesn't get impressive battery life either.
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agreed.
OP, go for it.
Let me show you guys something.
Been playing for 20 minutes with my SGS3 to check how fast battery drains. Wi-Fi was on for just 4 minutes, 3G off, sync off, brightness at max, BT off, Google now off.
All I did was watch 2 videos (7 minutes in total), visit one website and the rest of the time just going around the UI.
My battery was at 99% and in those 20 minutes it fell down to 90%. Wow. It's worst than I thought. I don't use that much my phone now that I've got my Nexus 7.
I don't want another phone with this crap battery for 2 years. Right now I'm leaning towards the Note 3 or LG G2. I like the Nexus 5 much more. That's obvious. But I also want the biggest battery possible.
At least I got my Nexus 7 to get updates, but on my phone I guess there are other priorities too apart from updates and stock Android.
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Yeah, going to AOSP is the biggest improvement IMO. It would be great, as it will never slow down, not even with future updates.
The only thing holding me back right now is battery. I would love a huge battery, like the ones in LG G2 and Note 3. But then, who knows if software will still be fluid in one or two years... But I would hate having only 2-3 hours screen on time with the Nexus 5.
Very difficult decision.
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Well I suggest the G2. Bigger battery (2300v3000), slightly bigger screen, better DPI (430v480), better cam.
The G2 software is amazing. There is a whole thread on the G2 forums about all the cool little features like Navbar Keyboard Arrows like AOKP roms. The IR Remote app is very cool. I dunno. I can't even flash a custom rom for long without wanting to flash back.
LG is pushing the G2. They already released a 4.4 rom on the Korean model with others filtering through the carriers now. The Verizon version has already had 2 OTA updates with KitKat expected soon.
The Note 3 is locked down tight. No development last time I checked. G2 has CM11 and AOKP and PA. G2 AOKP > N5 AOKP imo.
You lose up to the minute software updates though. My N7 fills that void though.
I have 14 hours on my G2 right now with 2:21 hours of screen on time and 35% left using stock rom.
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Yes, huge. It's even a big upgrade from a GS4. It's also an upgrade from the MotoX. All of which I've had.
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i have few question for z3 users

hello mates right now i have a htc one x and i really want to make it retired and leave it to my sister.
in my country iphone 6 is very expensive and with that specs for me its an waste of money, 6+ is very big , 6 is perfect for me but have something like 1800 mah or 1900 mah battery my hox already have 1800 mah and its a pain.
im stuck between z3, g3, and m8. z3 have superior specs than rivals and epic battery life which is very important for me. if you ask why? im using my htc one x nearly 2 years. with this months 21. day it will be complete 2 year. i never used my phone without power saving. getting into clash of clans and collecting the resources drains %10 of my battery.
right now i wanna ask you guys how is the z3? still it didnt released in my country (im from turkey,the land of great taxes) so i dont have any idea about phone. i just saw some pictures, watch reviews and read some specs thats it
my hox have a wifi problem which is a design fault edit: also i send my phone to the guarantee like 4th time because of wifi problem
did z3 have any problems? i heard about glass cracking problem but it only showed up 0.6% of the z3's
my head little bit mixed between this amiral ships.
for the m8 im really scaring about battery which is 2600 mah
but i really love its design. also im really get used to sense ui after sense z3's ui looks bit ugly
anyway if you guys can guide me i will be very happy
bullx said:
hello mates right now i have a htc one x and i really want to make it retired and leave it to my sister.
in my country iphone 6 is very expensive and with that specs for me its an waste of money, 6+ is very big , 6 is perfect for me but have something like 1800 mah or 1900 mah battery my hox already have 1800 mah and its a pain.
im stuck between z3, g3, and m8. z3 have superior specs than rivals and epic battery life which is very important for me. if you ask why? im using my htc one x nearly 2 years. with this months 21. day it will be complete 2 year. i never used my phone without power saving. getting into clash of clans and collecting the resources drains %10 of my battery.
right now i wanna ask you guys how is the z3? still it didnt released in my country (im from turkey,the land of great taxes) so i dont have any idea about phone. i just saw some pictures, watch reviews and read some specs thats it
my hox have a wifi problem which is a design fault edit: also i send my phone to the guarantee like 4th time because of wifi problem
did z3 have any problems? i heard about glass cracking problem but it only showed up 0.6% of the z3's
my head little bit mixed between this amiral ships.
for the m8 im really scaring about battery which is 2600 mah
but i really love its design. also im really get used to sense ui after sense z3's ui looks bit ugly
anyway if you guys can guide me i will be very happy
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Depends on what you want really.
One M8 is huge and has a smaller screen than both Z3 and G3.
Z3 and M8 have much better speakers than the G3.
Z3 and M8 are more premium design than G3.
G3 has higher res screen, but there's no point in having 1440p screens on a smartphone.
Z3 has far brighter screen than M8 or G3.
Z3 has far better battery life than M8 or G3.
G3 feels much better in the hand compared to M8 or Z3.
M8 has the better software compared to G3 and Z3. HTC are very good with updates as well.
One thing I will say, all three phones are very easy to drop. Z3 is slippery glass, G3 slippery plastic, M8 slippery metal. G3 and Z3 are much easier to hold though due to them being much smaller than the M8.
I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.
istrikerx said:
Depends on what you want really.
One M8 is huge and has a smaller screen than both Z3 and G3.
Z3 and M8 have much better speakers than the G3.
Z3 and M8 are more premium design than G3.
G3 has higher res screen, but there's no point in having 1440p screens on a smartphone.
Z3 has far brighter screen than M8 or G3.
Z3 has far better battery life than M8 or G3.
G3 feels much better in the hand compared to M8 or Z3.
M8 has the better software compared to G3 and Z3. HTC are very good with updates as well.
One thing I will say, all three phones are very easy to drop. Z3 is slippery glass, G3 slippery plastic, M8 slippery metal. G3 and Z3 are much easier to hold though due to them being much smaller than the M8.
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dragonfet said:
I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.
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thx for answers. i really liked the m8 i will look for it one more time so its still in list. how is the z3's durability? i always use my phones with case and screen protection.
is z3 and z3c's cpu better than m8, g3 and s5?
and did z3 have heat problem like at the z2?
bullx said:
thx for answers. i really liked the m8 i will look for it one more time so its still in list. how is the z3s durability? i always use my phones with case and screen protection.
is z3 and z3cs cpu better than m8, g3 and s5?
and did z3 have heat problem like at the z2?
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Doesnt the M8 only have 2gb if RAM?
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Doesnt the M8 only have 2gb if RAM?
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i never notices it have 2gb ram. i just check it you're right m8 have 2gb ram
so z3 have superior ram, camera, battery on m8 but what about cpu?
edit: also did z3 have heat problem like z2 have?
I own 2 G3's (F460S, D850) currently and here's my take:
The G3 has the best camera (OIS and laser for fast auto focusing , faster than any phone I've used)
The 2k screen is noticeably better (I had a Note 3 before this and you can tell the difference in resolution)
The speaker on the G3 is louder/better sounding than the Note 3 and S5 (I haven't tested it against the m8)
The G3 UI is very clean and simple without being too heavy.
The G3 is the size of the Z3 maybe a little smaller with a bigger screen.
I love my G3's but I'll probably get a Z3 as a backup phone however I don't think I'd use it as a primary.
I have had the d850 "ATT Brand" G3 for awhile now. Having had an HTC for my last 3 phones I was hesitant, but I've grown very fond of the G3. It is very simple u.I. great screen and battery life as well. Most features stock on G3 are what people were wanting on an AOSP ROM after rooting. I thought this was awesome! I'm coming from the HTC One and while the Boomsound speakers sounded great at first they deteriorated over time. The G3s speaker is excellent and with good quality tones or music the hi-fi shines and sounds great. Everyone will have different opinions or problems, likes/dislikes with any product. Actually they're all great devices I'd pick the one which best suits you. Good luck!
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I would say go for the M8 or the Z3. Both are excellent.
The M8 handles gaming better on the battery, the speakers on the M8 are far better than the Z3, so is headphone volume.
Screens are comparable, but Z3 is brighter, M8 is better quality (White balance etc) in my opinion.
Can't go far wrong with either. Z3 if you aren't gaming too much, M8 if speaker quality and gaming are important.
Camera is probably a little better on Z3 except with moving targets.
Jonathan-H said:
I would say go for the M8 or the Z3. Both are excellent.
The M8 handles gaming better on the battery, the speakers on the M8 are far better than the Z3, so is headphone volume.
Screens are comparable, but Z3 is brighter, M8 is better quality (White balance etc) in my opinion.
Can't go far wrong with either. Z3 if you aren't gaming too much, M8 if speaker quality and gaming are important.
Camera is probably a little better on Z3 except with moving targets.
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i didnt get the "m8 handles gaming better on battery" part. i love gaming but m8 have 2600 mah battery, z3 have 3100 mah battery also got 2 power saver modes (stamina, ultra stamina)
i read on websites they said m8 have the worst camera compared to its rivals. z3 have solid 20.7 mp but m8 have 4mp with a ultrapixel sensor.
also i heard boomsound is worse than beats?
anyway its an old smartphone compared to its rivals. first i was waiting for m9 but it will released at 2015 first quarter.its a long time and i cant continue with hox anymore
wolf0491 said:
Got my Z3 on Friday. Been loving it so far. Battery seems very promising. I used to be at work and looking for a charger before I would leave. Now at that same point I have 50% battery....lol
I do play some game and that is what mainly makes my battery time less than most people on here but I still am very impressed by the amount I have left after like 14 hours.
Performance so far has been lag free for me. screens all seem to open and close right when I click.
looks are my favorite. It is just a sexy phone IMO
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thanks for the information mate. did you have any heat problem? in gaming or video recording? and how is the speaker
dragonfet said:
I'll try to sum up my personal impression:
The Z3 is a great phone. Playing 3D games, I had like 10% drain in one hour. The screen is very nice, it's slightly cold white balance is only noticable when you have a warm light source nearby and it can easily be corrected with apps or the built-in settings. The speakers are clear and headphone output is great. Performance is awesome too, I haven't noticed any lagging.
If you're interested in technical stuff: Cores 2 and 3 are sleeping most of the time even with the phone in use and all energy saviing disabled, which in my opinion means that low-level CPU control is quite good. Charging speed is 0.5% per minute on the stock 1.5A charger. Call quality is great, though I'm just sending my unit back as people can barely hear me when I use the built-in micropone. On the headset that came with it (Sony MH750, not noise cancelling), sound quality is great.
I like the stock UI, but if you like Sense, it's likely quite a bit different. Unlocking the bootloader means losing a few features at the moment, but if you really want Sense on it, I'm sure there will be a port coming sometime - you're not the only one.
I have had zero problems with WiFi at home and university (eduroam) so far, but there is at least one more thread where someone complains about WiFi-performance, so it's a definitive statement.
I can't say much about fragility. I have never used a phone without a cover / case, though things tend to fall down from my hands. I'll see how the Z3 holds up to that. I also take the phone out of my pocket before I sit down.
Now, about battery size: You seem to worry about the 2600 mAh M8 battery vs. 3100 mAh in the Z3. Let me tell you that the software has a much bigger impact on battery life than the hardware, especially with two devices as similar as the M8 and Z3 (hardware-wise). My old HTC Desire HD drew around 400 mA with the screen on and in use, the Z3 with it's much bigger screen and faster CPU takes around 260 mA. If you can get your hands on an M8, install something like "Battery Monitor" or "3C toolbox" and see if you can get a few readings while using the phone as you would normally (normal brightness etc.). The Sense UI might use more or less power than the Sony one, for example. So while it's true that the M8 has a smaller battery, it doesn't mean that the impact on runtime is the same as the difference in capacity.
I did not compare the Z3 to the M8 before buying it because I don't like Sense since 3.5, and because I really wanted to have a long battery life, so I can't compare it any further, sorry.
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well i mosty use whatapp, 3G Mobile Data is nearly always online, and play some games after the htc one x experience im thinking twice for htc
Pilz said:
I own 2 G3's (F460S, D850) currently and here's my take:
The G3 has the best camera (OIS and laser for fast auto focusing , faster than any phone I've used)
The 2k screen is noticeably better (I had a Note 3 before this and you can tell the difference in resolution)
The speaker on the G3 is louder/better sounding than the Note 3 and S5 (I haven't tested it against the m8)
The G3 UI is very clean and simple without being too heavy.
The G3 is the size of the Z3 maybe a little smaller with a bigger screen.
I love my G3's but I'll probably get a Z3 as a backup phone however I don't think I'd use it as a primary.
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I have had the d850 "ATT Brand" G3 for awhile now. Having had an HTC for my last 3 phones I was hesitant, but I've grown very fond of the G3. It is very simple u.I. great screen and battery life as well. Most features stock on G3 are what people were wanting on an AOSP ROM after rooting. I thought this was awesome! I'm coming from the HTC One and while the Boomsound speakers sounded great at first they deteriorated over time. The G3s speaker is excellent and with good quality tones or music the hi-fi shines and sounds great. Everyone will have different opinions or problems, likes/dislikes with any product. Actually they're all great devices I'd pick the one which best suits you. Good luck!
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well my friend is using a g2. i was recommend it to him when he was a bit confused between samsung and lg and he was a samsung fan.
he just love it, also he says "you must get g3, i test it and after the g2 experience i totally recommend it to you, you must be insane if you not think to buy g3"
also i loved the laser focusing but some users says in turkish forums they having issues with laser focusing.
well in my country these phones are bit expensive. i mean im pretty sure i will use it min 1 year so im just trying to do the right choice for myself.
bullx said:
thanks for the information mate. did you have any heat problem? in gaming or video recording? and how is the speaker
well i mosty use whatapp, 3G Mobile Data is nearly always online, and play some games after the htc one x experience im thinking twice for htc
well my friend is using a g2. i was recommend it to him when he was a bit confused between samsung and lg and he was a samsung fan.
he just love it, also he says "you must get g3, i test it and after the g2 experience i totally recommend it to you, you must be insane if you not think to buy g3"
also i loved the laser focusing but some users says in turkish forums they having issues with laser focusing.
well in my country these phones are bit expensive. i mean im pretty sure i will use it min 1 year so im just trying to do the right choice for myself.
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I have never had an issue with the laser focusing and I have had a G3 since it launched in Korea back in late may/early June. The G3 is a good phone I do like the Sony as well but it has too many issues currently for me to buy it.
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@bullx compared to xperia Z this phone doesn't seem to get hot while gaming. I do feel some warmth of course but nothing close to my old phone. This may of course be dependent on what games and what length you play at
Sent from my Xperia Z3
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thanks for the info mate, i think it will be cooler than my hox when gaming
did you try 4k video recording? here is the reason why im asking :
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2014/09/sony_xperia_z3_sony_improves_overheating_problems_advises_short_term_recording_only/
did you test 4k video recording yet?
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I have never had an issue with the laser focusing and I have had a G3 since it launched in Korea back in late may/early June. The G3 is a good phone I do like the Sony as well but it has too many issues currently for me to buy it.
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well im just worried about camera(13mp s5 have 16, z3 have 20.7), battery and if i read correctly there is a little lag at the ui (mainscreen, menu etc) because of the high resolution screen
also issues like what? i only know about glass crack and overheating when recording 4k. i dont wanna buy a phone with issue anymore. my hox still in guarantee because of wifi. this is the 4th time i send them.i requested device change this time
here is the battery test i copy from phonearena.com
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bullx said:
thanks for the info mate, i think it will be cooler than my hox when gaming
did you try 4k video recording? here is the reason why im asking :
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...g_problems_advises_short_term_recording_only/
did you test 4k video recording yet?
well im just worried about camera(13mp s5 have 16, z3 have 20.7), battery and if i read correctly there is a little lag at the ui (mainscreen, menu etc) because of the high resolution screen
also issues like what? i only know about glass crack and overheating when recording 4k. i dont wanna buy a phone with issue anymore. my hox still in guarantee because of wifi. this is the 4th time i send them.i requested device change this time
here is the battery test i copy from phonearena.com
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I have used 4k recording and my phone doesn't get hot. Keep in mind I had the SD805 version of the G3. Also while battery life isn't as good as Sony (I get 5hours SOT on a good day ) I can replace the battery in less than 20 seconds. I have 2 batteries since my phone is the Korean version and it comes with a spare battery and charger. This is why the battery life isn't a big deal. The biggest thing I want is a waterproof phone, I love my G3 and I plan to keep it but the waterproofing is what I like about Sony. My wife has a s5 and I hate the physical home button so I thought Sony would be a good choice.
My phone has 0 lag I uploaded a short video of the onscreen nav of my phone I'll post the link down below. Its very smooth (~48k on antutu is pretty good) and I'm running the stock ROM rooted with no performance mods. If I ran AOSP it would certainly be faster and get better battery life. Each has their own advantage I will eventually get Sony or another as a backup, I just don't want to go through the hassle of getting s lemon.
Here is the video (I use Nova launcher in case you were wondering):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/apmizdhkbx100f8/2014-10-01 23.12.23.mp4?dl=0

[Q] Is the Nexus 5 worth buying?

Slightly different point of view here: I don't need a phone. I need an Android device.
What I currently have is a Galaxy S2 GT-i9100 and a Nexus 7 (2013). What I use them both for is games (80% of the usage), music, internet, pictures, and pretty much everything that is not calling people.
I've been looking at videos of the Nexus 5 but all worthwhile ones are of the 4.4 release version, which I already know was quite terrible, so I wanted to ask - after so many updates, are the camera autofocus, battery and other major flaws fixed? What current weak points does it have (anything you think sucks)?
My budget is not that high so Nexus 6 and 9 are out of the question.
IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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I've never had the chance to check out a Nexus phone, but on the N7 2013, the camera's autofocus is (my own opinion) pretty terrible even compared to phones from 2010 when it comes to video...how is there any constant focusing (or lack of focusing) issues on the N5? Or frame-lag when recording in 1080p?
A year later the N5 is still one of the best phones on the market. It is still blazing fast, smooth as silk, and gaming on it is awesome. I go through Android phones like they are disposable, usually selling them to offset the cost of the new one. Every so often a phone comes around that I just can't bear to part with even though I've since upgraded. The N5 is one of those phones. I'm currently using a 2014 Moto X and an iPhone 6 as my primary devices, but there's just something about the N5 that is preventing me from selling it and I will likely keep it forever. And like JayR_L said, it's easily the best Android experience for the money.
TL;DR- Yes, it is absolutely worth buying.
You should try the Nexus5 and see what you have been missing!
The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this
KingUsman said:
The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this
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The same can be said about any phone.
_MetalHead_ said:
The same can be said about any phone.
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It drains faster than any other phone
KingUsman said:
It drains faster than any other phone
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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.
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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.
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Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.
I would like to say the same, the nexus 5 is the best experiencie u can get from a android, Excep for the battery and about the heat playing games u guys should see the xperia z2, I'm sure that the battery will last a less twice but that if u aren't afraid of your phone became a fire ball.. I like @_MetalHead_ still having my nexus 5 even when I got the xperia z2, its just hard to sell a phone which have been so amazing and for that long.
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Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.
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You cant compare the Moto G to the N5. It has a much weaker processor than the N5 and as a result it won't get nearly as hot. More power generally means more heat. I've used all the major FLAGSHIPS this year and all of them heat up. The OnePlus One gets so hot you can almost boil an egg on it. Even my 2014 Moto X gets pretty warm with extended gaming sessions.
And again, everyone knows that battery life is not one of the N5's strong suits. Compromises had to be made to offer such a powerful phone at such an affordable price point. Just like compromises had to be made with the Moto G in order to sell it so cheap. If you want raw power, and just ok battery life, go with the N5. If you want a budget phone with great battery life and don't care about processing power, RAM, or screen resolution then save a little money and get the Moto G. Both are great devices for their targeted markets.
I switch from S4 and my wife switch from Note 2, both didn't look back at all.
If you compare to other phone release at that time frame N5 is just perfect, the battery does a little bit weak if compare to current generation (2300ma vs 3000ma+), but you also got OIS, which is really useful and I will say that is a must have.
Talk about heat, N5 got the snapdragon 800, you can expect it generate the same amount of heat with other phone using it, if you found other phone running cool and not as hot as N5 (such as G2, or even G3 but new cpu) that just because they clock down the CPU speed and limit it, LG G2 was known for this, and the G3 my mother using will lock the max cpu speed even when just charging using wireless charge and do nothing.
Just make sure you get the 32GB version, as the system reserve a pretty larger amount of storage.
OP, make your own decision, don't ask random people over the internet, because what you want is different to what we want.
i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.
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i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.
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That's just because data encryption is enabled by default on the N6... The latest Nexus flagship is overall better than its "predecessor" (a word that doesn't fit perfectly the N5), hardware-wise. The only weaker point is, in my opinion, its screen, with its insane resolution but disappointing brightness and color accuracy (even compared to other AMOLED screens).
BTW, our N5 is a great phone indeed. I have been using one as my daily driver for more than one year now, and still I wouldn't like to replace it with any other phone.
Display is great, all apps and the o.s. run fast and smoothly, camera is very good, partly because of the OIS, partly because the software optimizations improved its performance and speed a lot. The only flaw of this phone is its battery, which isn't terrible but just "average". What I really miss is the possibility to replace it when it gets old.
I'm thinking of replacing my N5. Is One plus one, any good? I like the slow motion camera on it.
Thinking of geting the HTC M8 (if S-Off can be achieved) or the Note 4.
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IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!
DOBBY0 said:
5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!
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4-5 hours is average.

Does S6 worth as an upgrade to LG G2

Hello i am considering getting a S6 in order to replace my 2 years old LG G2 and i am really concerned if it can be considered as a worthy upgrade (can not go to S7 due to its price to be honest).
I am currently pretty happy with G2 (do not care about the camera) due to its battery since i am using the transportation means for more than 2 hours everyday. My needs are music streaming (4g) calls, emails, some games (candycrush at most) etc.
At the moment since i am out of the house at 7 am and back at 10pm, i return with 10-15% of the battery left.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Of course what are you waiting for , it's definitely worth. But to be honest to only thing the LG G2 is better at compared to the S6 is battery life.
Thank you, but the question is to what extend. Assuming that i need 80-85% of LG's battery during MY day, will S6's battery will be able to come through?
differece is not big in performance , i have two mobiels and i know this
but s6 is , except battery more powerfull
change not is necessary , my opinion
If battery is your main concern and don't care about camera at all, I don't suggest to S6. Use your G2 for one more year and get S7 later it got bigger battery, microSD, 4GB ram and waterproof.
Screen is S6 a bit better but to be honest G2 got one of the best screen even better than G3 and G4. Design is S6 better without doubt and camera way better but I don't think you will take it into consideration. S6 also got Gear VR which is fun if you like 3D gaming but again I don't think you need it.
There is a big difference in performance , better camera , fingerprint scanner and all sammy features , Quad HD amoled screen...etc. As i said before the only thing the G2 is better at is battery life.
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There is a big difference in performance , better camera , fingerprint scanner and all sammy features , Quad HD amoled screen...etc. As i said before the only thing the G2 is better at is battery life.
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Indeed he is just a light user(music streaming (4g) calls, emails, some games (candycrush at most)) .... SD800 is enough.
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Indeed he is just a light user(music streaming (4g) calls, emails, some games (candycrush at most)) .... SD800 is enough.
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Yeah if he's a light user S800 will do the job very well.
cdrov said:
Thank you, but the question is to what extend. Assuming that i need 80-85% of LG's battery during MY day, will S6's battery will be able to come through?
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My S6 is still running 5.1.1 but after reading the comments of MM on this board, it seems 6.0.1 deliver good battery, I think it's possible to reach 80% of G2 or at least achievable when you enable power saving mode.
Thank you guys, i'll stick with g2 for some time and i will probably get a galaxy tab s2 that i was wishing for some time now .... Thank you for your suggestions

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