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Slightly different point of view here: I don't need a phone. I need an Android device.
What I currently have is a Galaxy S2 GT-i9100 and a Nexus 7 (2013). What I use them both for is games (80% of the usage), music, internet, pictures, and pretty much everything that is not calling people.
I've been looking at videos of the Nexus 5 but all worthwhile ones are of the 4.4 release version, which I already know was quite terrible, so I wanted to ask - after so many updates, are the camera autofocus, battery and other major flaws fixed? What current weak points does it have (anything you think sucks)?
My budget is not that high so Nexus 6 and 9 are out of the question.
IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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I've never had the chance to check out a Nexus phone, but on the N7 2013, the camera's autofocus is (my own opinion) pretty terrible even compared to phones from 2010 when it comes to video...how is there any constant focusing (or lack of focusing) issues on the N5? Or frame-lag when recording in 1080p?
A year later the N5 is still one of the best phones on the market. It is still blazing fast, smooth as silk, and gaming on it is awesome. I go through Android phones like they are disposable, usually selling them to offset the cost of the new one. Every so often a phone comes around that I just can't bear to part with even though I've since upgraded. The N5 is one of those phones. I'm currently using a 2014 Moto X and an iPhone 6 as my primary devices, but there's just something about the N5 that is preventing me from selling it and I will likely keep it forever. And like JayR_L said, it's easily the best Android experience for the money.
TL;DR- Yes, it is absolutely worth buying.
You should try the Nexus5 and see what you have been missing!
The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this
KingUsman said:
The battery will drain fast when playing games also the phone heats up, don't know if anyone else is experiencing this
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The same can be said about any phone.
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The same can be said about any phone.
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It drains faster than any other phone
KingUsman said:
It drains faster than any other phone
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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.
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That's hardly the case. Sure, there are phones with better battery life, but the N5 is certainly not the worst.
That said, any phone will drain faster and get pretty warm when playing games. You said that like it's a downside to the N5 but it's a fact of life for every smartphone on the planet.
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Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.
I would like to say the same, the nexus 5 is the best experiencie u can get from a android, Excep for the battery and about the heat playing games u guys should see the xperia z2, I'm sure that the battery will last a less twice but that if u aren't afraid of your phone became a fire ball.. I like @_MetalHead_ still having my nexus 5 even when I got the xperia z2, its just hard to sell a phone which have been so amazing and for that long.
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Well for me, it is one of the worst battery life compared to other phones that I have used.
My nexus 5 heats up quickly when playing games, not all phones heat up this fast, my moto g doesn't heat up at all.
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You cant compare the Moto G to the N5. It has a much weaker processor than the N5 and as a result it won't get nearly as hot. More power generally means more heat. I've used all the major FLAGSHIPS this year and all of them heat up. The OnePlus One gets so hot you can almost boil an egg on it. Even my 2014 Moto X gets pretty warm with extended gaming sessions.
And again, everyone knows that battery life is not one of the N5's strong suits. Compromises had to be made to offer such a powerful phone at such an affordable price point. Just like compromises had to be made with the Moto G in order to sell it so cheap. If you want raw power, and just ok battery life, go with the N5. If you want a budget phone with great battery life and don't care about processing power, RAM, or screen resolution then save a little money and get the Moto G. Both are great devices for their targeted markets.
I switch from S4 and my wife switch from Note 2, both didn't look back at all.
If you compare to other phone release at that time frame N5 is just perfect, the battery does a little bit weak if compare to current generation (2300ma vs 3000ma+), but you also got OIS, which is really useful and I will say that is a must have.
Talk about heat, N5 got the snapdragon 800, you can expect it generate the same amount of heat with other phone using it, if you found other phone running cool and not as hot as N5 (such as G2, or even G3 but new cpu) that just because they clock down the CPU speed and limit it, LG G2 was known for this, and the G3 my mother using will lock the max cpu speed even when just charging using wireless charge and do nothing.
Just make sure you get the 32GB version, as the system reserve a pretty larger amount of storage.
OP, make your own decision, don't ask random people over the internet, because what you want is different to what we want.
i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.
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i just bought nexus 5 and thinkimg to get nexus 6....then i watch speed comp on youtube. nexus 5 won with 6-1 check it out.
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That's just because data encryption is enabled by default on the N6... The latest Nexus flagship is overall better than its "predecessor" (a word that doesn't fit perfectly the N5), hardware-wise. The only weaker point is, in my opinion, its screen, with its insane resolution but disappointing brightness and color accuracy (even compared to other AMOLED screens).
BTW, our N5 is a great phone indeed. I have been using one as my daily driver for more than one year now, and still I wouldn't like to replace it with any other phone.
Display is great, all apps and the o.s. run fast and smoothly, camera is very good, partly because of the OIS, partly because the software optimizations improved its performance and speed a lot. The only flaw of this phone is its battery, which isn't terrible but just "average". What I really miss is the possibility to replace it when it gets old.
I'm thinking of replacing my N5. Is One plus one, any good? I like the slow motion camera on it.
Thinking of geting the HTC M8 (if S-Off can be achieved) or the Note 4.
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IMHO the Nexus 5 is the best possible Android experience for the money. Its butter smooth. On optipop the battery isn't amazing but its definitely reasonable. (I get 5 hours of SoT)
I've never had any issues with the camera to be honest. All things aside, no device is perfect and while the n5 has flaws, it is truly a work of art.
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5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!
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5 hours!?!??! How?? Tell me your ways!
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4-5 hours is average.
I currently have a m7 and I'm looking for my next new phone. I want to know anyone's cons against the s6 that they're using now. Especially anyone who came from m7/m8 etc. I want to know about camera, battery, performance, any lag with touchwiz, etc. I'm finding it a hard decision between nexus 6, S6, (and i would say m9...but the camera looks pretty awful). I need as much feedback as possible. I just want to know any cons before buying this phone that a rep (Verizon) isn't going to tell me.
I came from a launch day m7 myself, and I've had the s6 for about 2 weeks now. I think it was a solid upgrade, and I have no regrets. My only problems with it are the little annoyances, like the volume warning, and the things that I used to use xposed for, since there's no exposed for the s6 yet (and probably won't be for a while, if at all).
But the screen and camera are amazing. The battery and memory issues haven't bothered me because I haven't noticed them - all I know is that they're better than the m7.
One thing though - for the first time ever I'm using a third party launcher (Nova Prime). I don't really have any issues with touchwiz, and I've actually grown to like it a lot once I threw the flat candy theme on top of it, but the touchwiz launcher is a mess.
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I came from a launch day m7 myself, and I've had the s6 for about 2 weeks now. I think it was a solid upgrade, and I have no regrets. My only problems with it are the little annoyances, like the volume warning, and the things that I used to use xposed for, since there's no exposed for the s6 yet (and probably won't be for a while, if at all).
But the screen and camera are amazing. The battery and memory issues haven't bothered me because I haven't noticed them - all I know is that they're better than the m7.
One thing though - for the first time ever I'm using a third party launcher (Nova Prime). I don't really have any issues with touchwiz, and I've actually grown to like it a lot once I threw the flat candy theme on top of it, but the touchwiz launcher is a mess.
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This will probably never ever happen... but a sense 7 port, maybe just launcher.... well that would be pretty sweet.
Do you use any 3rd party camera apps such as camera fv-5 ? or do you really like stock app?
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This will probably never ever happen... but a sense 7 port, maybe just launcher.... well that would be pretty sweet.
Do you use any 3rd party camera apps such as camera fv-5 ? or do you really like stock app?
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Actually, check out this thread and do a search for s6 - I think people have gotten it to work. I haven't tested it - I've been pretty happy with touchwiz (surprisingly).
Same with the camera - haven't found any reason to try another, stock works great and the photos are awesome.
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Actually, check out this thread and do a search for s6 - I think people have gotten it to work. I haven't tested it - I've been pretty happy with touchwiz (surprisingly).
Same with the camera - haven't found any reason to try another, stock works great and the photos are awesome.
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What about video? I was semi ok with the m9 pics but the video is horrid without OIS.
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What about video? I was semi ok with the m9 pics but the video is horrid without OIS.
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I haven't had any issues with it, but I don't shoot much video. The still pics from the camera blow the htc out of the water though.
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What about video? I was semi ok with the m9 pics but the video is horrid without OIS.
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samsung started the 4K video in smartphones....and it's the best video out there...the stabilization is very good.....it's miles better than the M9...
Is video stereo mic or mono? Not a deal breaker, but something I like.
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What about video? I was semi ok with the m9 pics but the video is horrid without OIS.
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I didn't believe you... so I put it on my nexus 7... wow it actually works... the pictures for blinkfeed didn't scale well... but still.... wow... even themes
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Is video stereo mic or mono? Not a deal breaker, but something I like.
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if you mean recording videos audio is in mono or stereo...it's in stereo....
So I played with this phone yesterday at Verizon.... I'm sold. What is battery life compared to m7? I know the battery is slightly larger, but this is samsung and it also has QHD display and super amoled vs m7's htc and lcd 1080p display.
The battery life is my main gripe about the S6.. I bought and returned my LG G4 for the S6 and the Samsung is built much better yet the G4 got full day battery life. I charge my S6 about twice a day.
Also, the camera is definitely subpar on the S6 in comparison to the LG G4, especially in low lighting. The iPhone performs much better in low light compared to the S6 also. Day time pics are better than iPhone but nowhere near the G4 quality.
Once someone releases a higher capacity battery for the S6, I'd gladly tear mine apart to replace it.
Keep in mind I work for AT&T and I use my phone a LOT throughout the day.. Roughly 20gb /month data usage on my line alone and I don't tether.
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The battery life is my main gripe about the S6.. I bought and returned my LG G4 for the S6 and the Samsung is built much better yet the G4 got full day battery life. I charge my S6 about twice a day.
Also, the camera is definitely subpar on the S6 in comparison to the LG G4, especially in low lighting. The iPhone performs much better in low light compared to the S6 also. Day time pics are better than iPhone but nowhere near the G4 quality.
Once someone releases a higher capacity battery for the S6, I'd gladly tear mine apart to replace it.
Keep in mind I work for AT&T and I use my phone a LOT throughout the day.. Roughly 20gb /month data usage on my line alone and I don't tether.
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What about video? And since you use your phone so much, what is your battery life?
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What about video? And since you use your phone so much, what is your battery life?
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My iPhone 6 records 60fps 1080p much smoother than the GS6. But I don't record much video anyways.
Off the charger at 7am and I get the battery 15% warning around noon. Quick charge to 45% during lunch then get the warning again around 5pm.
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The battery life is my main gripe about the S6.. I bought and returned my LG G4 for the S6 and the Samsung is built much better yet the G4 got full day battery life. I charge my S6 about twice a day.
Also, the camera is definitely subpar on the S6 in comparison to the LG G4, especially in low lighting. The iPhone performs much better in low light compared to the S6 also. Day time pics are better than iPhone but nowhere near the G4 quality.
Once someone releases a higher capacity battery for the S6, I'd gladly tear mine apart to replace it.
Keep in mind I work for AT&T and I use my phone a LOT throughout the day.. Roughly 20gb /month data usage on my line alone and I don't tether.
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in low light the G4 is a bit better but other than that the S6 is better....in daylight and video it's better....and the s6 is better in every way than the iphone 6...maybe the 6 plus is a bit better in low light but not the 6....
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My iPhone 6 records 60fps 1080p much smoother than the GS6. But I don't record much video anyways.
Off the charger at 7am and I get the battery 15% warning around noon. Quick charge to 45% during lunch then get the warning again around 5pm.
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how is it smoother?? it's 60 fps on both phones so it should be the same....and it's known that samsung phones takes the best videos in all smartphones....
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in low light the G4 is a bit better but other than that the S6 is better....in daylight and video it's better....and the s6 is better in every way than the iphone 6...maybe the 6 plus is a bit better in low light but not the 6....
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I own a GS6 after returning my G4. My iPhone 6 is my secondary device and its sitting next to me. I'm giving a legitimate comparison with no bias. You saying the GS6 is better than iPhone in "every way" is ignorance at its best. I'm not a fan boy of either. There are strengths and weaknesses to both. The GS6 camera doesn't come anywhere near the quality of the G4 photos when you put them side by side and view them on the same calibrated monitor. The GS6 struggles with iso levels in low light. The iPhone is better at iso adjustment in low light. That is absolute in my real world usage.
Day light photos on the GS6 are leaps and bounds over the iPhone, however.
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I own a GS6 after returning my G4. My iPhone 6 is my secondary device and its sitting next to me. I'm giving a legitimate comparison with no bias. You saying the GS6 is better than iPhone in "every way" is ignorance at its best. I'm not a fan boy of either. There are strengths and weaknesses to both. The GS6 camera doesn't come anywhere near the quality of the G4 photos when you put them side by side and view them on the same calibrated monitor. The GS6 struggles with iso levels in low light. The iPhone is better at iso adjustment in low light. That is absolute in my real world usage.
Day light photos on the GS6 are leaps and bounds over the iPhone, however.
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i don't know if you are a fan of either but i own the S6 and its photos are great...i don't own the G4...but ....in all comparisons the S6 was better or on par with the G4 in daylight....in low light the G4 is better.......so saying it's nowhere as the G4 is not right at all...
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i don't know if you are a fan of either but i own the S6 and its photos are great...i don't own the G4...but ....in all comparisons the S6 was better or on par with the G4 in daylight....in low light the G4 is better.......so saying it's nowhere as the G4 is not right at all...
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Buy a G4 and compare them in real world photos yourself and you'll see what I'm talking about. Photo clarity and color accuracy is noticeably better with the G4.
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Buy a G4 and compare them in real world photos yourself and you'll see what I'm talking about. Photo clarity and color accuracy is noticeably better with the G4.
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every one has an opinion.....it seems all the reviewers has the same opinion and you have another....it's an opinion.....and i can't afford as many phones as you i guess....if you had a G4 now an S6 and iphone 6....
My mother has a 6+ and the pictures are still better on my S6, lowlights and video recording. 60fps is smooth on both so I don't know what the guy above is talking about.
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Well i know there's a lots of reviews about this already and since these devices came out very early already. since i watched a lot of reviews in youtube and comparisons between those two devices. As i see microphone is pretty bad compared to the S6. OIS On some videos , G4 sports better than the S6 but for the most part the S6 does a better job than the G4. i'm really confused which one to buy actually because this is going to be my phone for at least 2-3 years or so. And battery life matters a lot also to me. They say S6 lasts longer than the G4 even though it has bigger battery. and i know
main questions that need to be answered.
- Can i tweak the microphone quality through apps?
- Is OIS Really better on the S6?
- Is battery better on the G4?
- How much SOT do you get in daily usage ? / In photography?
- Is manual mode better on the G4?
I'm also asking these because i am mostly going to use it as photography and videography. hope you guys help me out which one to buy.
Thanks
-xDroidZz
no fanboying please as i like both companies.
I want to know this too
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Easy Voice Recorder is a great app for audio recording. But tweaking the microphone individually I don't know!
Manual mode better on G4, but camera quality better on S6 for both pics and videos!
Both have s#itty battery life. S6 maybe 15-30mins more sot. 5hrs sot is common for most s6 users here.
I prefer S6 camera because zooming doesn't reveal noises, but that's my preference. Go for Z5. Heard it's top notch camera.
But I bought the S6 back in May since I knew it'd stay untouched in 2015!
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Well i know there's a lots of reviews about this already and since these devices came out very early already. since i watched a lot of reviews in youtube and comparisons between those two devices. As i see microphone is pretty bad compared to the S6. OIS On some videos , G4 sports better than the S6 but for the most part the S6 does a better job than the G4. i'm really confused which one to buy actually because this is going to be my phone for at least 2-3 years or so. And battery life matters a lot also to me. They say S6 lasts longer than the G4 even though it has bigger battery. and i know
main questions that need to be answered.
- Can i tweak the microphone quality through apps?
- Is OIS Really better on the S6?
- Is battery better on the G4?
- How much SOT do you get in daily usage ? / In photography?
- Is manual mode better on the G4?
I'm also asking these because i am mostly going to use it as photography and videography. hope you guys help me out which one to buy.
Thanks
-xDroidZz
no fanboying please as i like both companies.
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If you are planning on keeping the phone for 2-3 years you might also want to consider (you probably have, just mentioning it just in case) the expandable storage and replaceable battery. Expandable storage for a normal user might not be necessary but if you plan to take a lot of photos/videos for a few years it might be something important to think about.
As to answer your questions:
Manual mode as of this moment is indeed better on the G4. Marshmallow will bring the note 5 controls to the S6 in January approx, so you might want to check out the note 5 manual controls and compare them to the G4 because if you do prefer it, it will be available for the S6 soon.
SOT: My SOT is the average a normal user gets, you will find users getting 6+ hours, even 7 or 8, some with 2... but that is quite unlikely. For an average user you should be expecting somewhere around 4-5 hours unless you have bad signal. If you use the phone intensely or for more than a day you should be expecting around 3-4 hours, some people get more tho, but that's just not my case.
I can't really compare to the G4 so not much more I can say
I would look into the v10 over the g4 and s6, if the v10 is to big go for the s6, I just feel like the v10 is overall a better phone than both.
- Can i tweak the microphone quality through apps?
The LG V10 can do this while recording, you can select which mic you want to use and adjust levels.
- Is OIS Really better on the S6?
S6 had better OIS than the G4 but I dont think it is better than the V10
- Is battery better on the G4?
Both are horrible, you are very lucky if you get 5+ hours on the s6 with 3hrs being the norm and 4+hrs your getting lucky. I avg around 3.5hrs on thats with it connected to wifi 90% if the time
- How much SOT do you get in daily usage ? / In photography?
- Is manual mode better on the G4?
It is way better on the G4/v10
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I would look into the v10 over the g4 and s6, if the v10 is to big go for the s6, I just feel like the v10 is overall a better phone than both.
- Can i tweak the microphone quality through apps?
The LG V10 can do this while recording, you can select which mic you want to use and adjust levels.
- Is OIS Really better on the S6?
S6 had better OIS than the G4 but I dont think it is better than the V10
- Is battery better on the G4?
Both are horrible, you are very lucky if you get 5+ hours on the s6 with 3hrs being the norm and 4+hrs your getting lucky. I avg around 3.5hrs on thats with it connected to wifi 90% if the time
- How much SOT do you get in daily usage ? / In photography?
- Is manual mode better on the G4?
It is way better on the G4/v10
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If you are planning on keeping the phone for 2-3 years you might also want to consider (you probably have, just mentioning it just in case) the expandable storage and replaceable battery. Expandable storage for a normal user might not be necessary but if you plan to take a lot of photos/videos for a few years it might be something important to think about.
As to answer your questions:
Manual mode as of this moment is indeed better on the G4. Marshmallow will bring the note 5 controls to the S6 in January approx, so you might want to check out the note 5 manual controls and compare them to the G4 because if you do prefer it, it will be available for the S6 soon.
SOT: My SOT is the average a normal user gets, you will find users getting 6+ hours, even 7 or 8, some with 2... but that is quite unlikely. For an average user you should be expecting somewhere around 4-5 hours unless you have bad signal. If you use the phone intensely or for more than a day you should be expecting around 3-4 hours, some people get more tho, but that's just not my case.
I can't really compare to the G4 so not much more I can say
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Easy Voice Recorder is a great app for audio recording. But tweaking the microphone individually I don't know!
Manual mode better on G4, but camera quality better on S6 for both pics and videos!
Both have s#itty battery life. S6 maybe 15-30mins more sot. 5hrs sot is common for most s6 users here.
I prefer S6 camera because zooming doesn't reveal noises, but that's my preference. Go for Z5. Heard it's top notch camera.
But I bought the S6 back in May since I knew it'd stay untouched in 2015!
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Thanks guys! i've decided to go with the S6 64GB white version which was on sale ! hope those manual goodies are tasetful! and i hope the 64GB doesnt let me down thanks again.
The lg v10 would be great also but the price like damn..........
I just gotta bring a powerbank with me i guess......
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Thanks guys! i've decided to go with the S6 64GB white version which was on sale ! hope those manual goodies are tasetful! and i hope the 64GB doesnt let me down thanks again.
The lg v10 would be great also but the price like damn..........
I just gotta bring a powerbank with me i guess......
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Wise choice! The S6 64GB is an excellent flagship and its price these days is very affordable! Put a dark/black theme like Weyo, put apps to always optimize in battery settings and get Package disabler pro for bloatware in unrooted s6 if u wish and u should be getting acceptable battery life!
And Ultra Power Saving is always here just in case!
Hii Folks!
So I just got back from our local mall and took a test drive of the New Z5 Premium. I'm stoked. From the fingerprint unlock to the Camera Test, amazing. Its fast too. I was trying to stress the device by multitasking really fast, flawless. I'm now having a dilemma if I'll sell my S6 and go Z5P. Oooorrrr, wait for Marshmallow then decide whether to throw in the towel. No bashing please. Thanks!
I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
I think maybe wait till marshmallow drops. Many beta users have reported that the fingerprint sensor speed and recognition has improved in the marshmallow update.
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I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
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I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
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I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
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I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
I would give MM a chance on the S6
Like M...N said there are reports of more effective and usable fingerprint sensor support.
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I actually sold my 8months old S6 (64gb) and got myself a new Xperia Z5 (dual) black. As stated earlier my S6 had a lot of network connectivity issues which got worse with time, got repaired but to no use. I was bit unsure about how good the camera would be on Z5 as there are mixed reviews.
My quick review of Z5 compared to S6 (after 2 days use):
- Better battery backup: my Z5 is at 67% after a full days use (charged fully at 10 am), while my S6 used to be at 4-5% by this time and had to charge it at least once daily (sometimes twice daily). 3g data on all the time with some voice calls, chrome browsing, whatsapp etc. Only using one sim in Z5.
- Camera: IMO the daylight pics on Z5 (23mp manual mode) are better overall than S6 (sony sensor). The pics are sharper overall with vibrant colors but slightly noisier compared to softer (less noisier) dull looking pics on the S6. The night pics are comparable on both but S6 auto mode does way better job than sony's. You actually need to know the manual mode on the Xperia very well as to get good results in poor light (which are comparable to or sometimes even better than S6). Also the camera app is faster and easier to use on the S6 compared to Z5. But, to me (a long time sony user) its a non issue. Mind it there are faulty units with lots of lens blurring and all (as apparent from reviews online) with Z5 in particular, so you need to keep that in mind. Mine doesn't have any such issue.
- Screen and touch response: Samoled vs Ips lcd. Both have their pros and cons. I like the touch response on the Z5 better though. Auto brightness works better on Z5.
- Network connectivity: Much better on the Z5 IMO.
- UI: Z5 has cleaner UI which is seamless. Samsung UI felt a bit laggy at times but both phones are pretty snappy.
P.S - I'm really happy with my purchase overall! Sony's camera app needs work for sure, which I'm confident will be done in coming updates. Samsung needs to improve upon its battery backup and UI IMO.
As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
If you need people to convince you to stay with galaxy s6, you've already made up your mind. Go with Z5, because you're always going to find a flaw with galaxy series.
Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
In reality, it is impossible to run the 28nm octa-core SD810 Z5 with a full day usage and still got 67% battery left. I think it will need a Z3c with KitKat rom to do that.
If you just trying to get best SOT out with super light use and tune the screen to real dark, it is achievable though. Indeed, I'm a S6 light user mostly and my S6 always got 6~7hrs SOT as well. Such a campaign doesn't reflect real world performance for most people. There are many complaints from medium to heavy users from Z5/Z5c/Z5p on XDA and talk sonymobile forum about battery life.
I always prefer color reproduction from Sony. S6 used a heavy noise reduction and a bit dull but there are just too much noises on Sony. Speaking to the details, both of my IMX240 and ISOCell performs better than my Z5c day and night. It is strange that your S6 IMX240 photo not as sharp as Z5, in my experiences the IMX240 is just too sharp and I even want it to be lower. Me any my friend got a Z5c, mine is absolutely perfect without blur while my friend one got slightly blur so clearly no problem on my camera.
Both got pros and cons on auto brightness and touch responsive. Z5 auto brightness is too bright while S6 is a bit dark but overall I prefer S6. S6 got faster touch responsive while power saving disabled and some lag when power saving on. Z5 is more consistency on this part with or without Stamina on.
Actually, S6 got way more custom roms and kernels but sure no AOSP/CM. S6 got knox trip but Sony also has DRM key and TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/samsung-galaxy-s-6--s-6-edge-unified-development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s6-t3269984
EDIT: I just found that CM13 is available now on S6
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As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
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Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
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the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
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the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
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How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Regarding iPhone 6s:
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/681054354153971712
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/680299853801365504
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/641752688728764416
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
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How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
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first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
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first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review/8
According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
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it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
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No I yet again need to say this but I didnt mention lag. And yes the exynos chip is the best for android, but the sacrifice you need to make (no stable custom roms) is quite high. Anyway enjoy your phone, take care.
I sold a Z5 to come back to this phone. The premium is simply an oversized and ugly version of the Z5.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Real world use, the Z5 camera is absolutely awful, daylight and low light is blown away by S6, it distorts pictures, and has no stabilisation in low light so motion blur even when you keep very still. Battery life is awful (4hrs SOT), the screen is not sharp enough, the phone is laggy, runs very very hot, and is NOT water resistant, speakers get wrecked after any contact with water, permanently.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Aside from some very small skips (not lag) in settings menu, the S6 runs smooth and fast and battery life is 5hours SOT, camera is unbeatable. Very glad I got an S6 again.
On a side note, I have an Iphone 6 for work, unfortunately, and its far from lag free and smooth. It is buggy and battery life is mediocre at best although it does charge fast. Camera is useless.
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I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
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The question I have for you is, none of my third party apps can auto focus the s6 rear camera. Only the official camera app and HwTest app can. Do you have any experience with this?
Hey guys so im buing a new phone and i've stopped on these two the Xperia x performance because of the Snapdragon 820 and the Galaxy S6 because i like samsung phones and touchwiz in general . I can get the GS6 for 380 dollars and the Xperia for 420 dollars both are new not used i don't buy used products .
Go for Galaxy S6 of course! I had Galaxy S6 Edge+ for few months then I switched to Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and it was like hell! Now I'm using Galaxy S6 and it's was better than the Z5P!
Better screen quality (SuperAMOLED QuadHD), better software experience, better camera, better loudspeakers!
If you can get S6 Edge it will be even better experience.
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Go for Galaxy S6 of course! I had Galaxy S6 Edge+ for few months then I switched to Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and it was like hell! Now I'm using Galaxy S6 and it's was better than the Z5P!
Better screen quality (SuperAMOLED QuadHD), better software experience, better camera, better loudspeakers!
If you can get S6 Edge it will be even better experience.
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I can get the S6 Edge for 30 more dollars. The S6 has the Samsung Game Tuner right ? And can the resolution be dropped to 1080 if needed for a game in the future ?
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I can get the S6 Edge for 30 more dollars. The S6 has the Samsung Game Tuner right ? And can the resolution be dropped to 1080 if needed for a game in the future ?
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In fact dropping resolution to 720p for games with Game Tuner app and browser to 1080p with it is optimum and reduces battery usage. But,
X Performance has sd820 and good battery life. Go for it without hesitation as with sd820, you're sure you'll be able to flash newer Android versions when official support is over unlike s6 which has only touchwiz derived roms. S6 never lags and so on, but so is the X Performance with newer cpu. And S6 battery is not enough if you want to game. It's mediocre
I like my s6, but c'mon for $40 more, you get sd820 and the beast Adreno 530!
And the S6 Edge is a scam as the edge is useless and expensive to repair. Should be like only $10 more. And Quad HD screen is useless. Only the camera of the S6 is a great deal!
S6 all the way
I think hardware wise the s6 edges it some aspects. The s6 has a better screen, design, speaker, camera. The sd820 cpu wise has a ln edge over the exynos 7420 but not by a big margin, the adreno gpu is very side and has an advantage over the Mali. Where the Sony probably has another advantage is probably battery life and custom rom access as sd is easier to develop for than exynos. Overall feature wise the s6 does have a few more than the Sony but if you want better battery life, the Sony is your best bet. It all depends on what your preference is and what you value in a device
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I think hardware wise the s6 edges it some aspects. The s6 has a better screen, design, speaker, camera. The sd820 cpu wise has a ln edge over the exynos 7420 but not by a big margin, the adreno gpu is very side and has an advantage over the Mali. Where the Sony probably has another advantage is probably battery life and custom rom access as sd is easier to develop for than exynos. Overall feature wise the s6 does have a few more than the Sony but if you want better battery life, the Sony is your best bet. It all depends on what your preference is and what you value in a device
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I want the phone to have a great display,speaker,headphone output,ok performance because the most demanding games i will play are Asphalt and Fifa mobile. I know that i won't use the power of the SD 820 to its max potential because as i mention i don't play the most demanding games , but a small part of me always says go for the specs even tough i like the GS6 more than the Sony.
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I want the phone to have a great display,speaker,headphone output,ok performance because the most demanding games i will play are Asphalt and Fifa mobile. I know that i won't use the power of the SD 820 to its max potential because as i mention i don't play the most demanding games , but a small part of me always says go for the specs even tough i like the GS6 more than the Sony.
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Tbf I've played some graphically intensive games on the s6 pretty well, the gpu is still a pretty good one, a lot of ports have played great. There's a munches odyssey game not a port on playstore which is very gpu intensive and I got decent framerates. I think if anything maybe battery life could be better on the s6, I mean for me I still manage to get a days use out of it depending on what I'm doing.
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Tbf I've played some graphically intensive games on the s6 pretty well, the gpu is still a pretty good one, a lot of ports have played great. There's a munches odyssey game not a port on playstore which is very gpu intensive and I got decent framerates. I think if anything maybe battery life could be better on the s6, I mean for me I still manage to get a days use out of it depending on what I'm doing.
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Nice ! Battery isn't that much of a concern because i carry a 2700 mAh portable battery with me. I know its an older device but will support continue for it to at least get 7.0 .?
Oneplus 3T
Tarbruh said:
Nice ! Battery isn't that much of a concern because i carry a 2700 mAh portable battery with me. I know its an older device but will support continue for it to at least get 7.0 .?
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The nougat update for the s6 is due in the next couple of weeks. The nougat manual for the s6 and s6 edge has been released so the actual update shouldn't be too far away
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The OP3T is 20 dollars away from the GS7 for me so thats a nope.
A disapointment for Me in S6 is touchscreen. Sometimes it is not working as it should (not registering touch) and using it outside in winter is useless. I don't know it is just My device or it is My cold fingers, but this issue is a big one. A lot of people on web have reported this and now I'm testing *#2663# "fix", will see how it will end for Me. If I would have know this I would bought X Compact for the same price. (There was bargain deal on My operator, S6 will cost Me 240eur, X Compact would be around 250eur if I remember correctly)