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Confused between Xperia Z5 & Galaxy S6

Hi all
As said in title , I just sold my LG G4 after repairing it (its screen got damaged by water )
Now I'm confused between buying the Z5 / S6 . My budget is quite limited so I can't go for the Z5 premium or s6 edge+
In my country the Xperia Z5 costs arround 120$ more than the Galaxy S6 .
Note that what really matters for me is the Camera quality , Perfomance and the battey .
I really like the design of Z5 , besides it's waterproof . But the S6 has a much sharper and better display .
and the exynos CPU of S6 is much better than SD810 which has a bad reputation because of heating issues .
What do you guys suggest to me ?
And what are the the avaliable models of the Z5 , because where I live I found some have the E6633 Model which is I think Dual sim
and what are the diffrences between those models ?

I had first the S6 for 4 months and now the Z5.
The camera quality of the S6 is definetly better in my eyes if were talking about taking pictures.
With videos i would say the Z5 is better because the videos are not shacking that much.
So the Z5 camera is not really bad but since most people are usually taking more pictures i would prefer the S6 if that's your most important feature.
With the latest .200 firmware update i think the Z5 doesn't heat up that much anymore.
It's still waterproofed and has a nice design without an outstanding camera module.
In my eyes the battery life of the S6 and the Z5 are pretty equal. That's at least what i noticed.
And about differences of the models... yes there exists a dual sim Z5 but i'm not sure if it exists in every country.
I guess the differences are not spectacular besides the second sim tray hehe
hope i could help you a little

Save yourself some money and just get the S6.
Thats what I plan to do, Z5 isnt worth its price tag imo.

Please do not listen to the typical the galaxy s6 has a better camera talk because this simply is not true!
I have owned both and i will tell you right now why the Xperia Z5 is the better phone for you.
1) Camera Resolution, Xperia Z5 can take 20.7mp pictures in 16:9 mode, Galaxy S6 can only take 15.9mp pictures in 16:9 mode
2.A)Camera Quality, Xperia Z5 takes photos with incredible color fidelity and much sharper photos, by comparison the galaxy s6 photos look a bit blurry
2.B) With Xperia Z5 you get the same camera experience as all other costumers that bought the Xperia Z5, with Galaxy S6 you are in a lottery to get a worse or a better camera, Some Galaxy S6 has IsoCell Camera Sensor which is the Old Gen Galaxy S5 Camera Sensor or if youre lucky you get the Sony IMX 240 Camera Sensor, both are good, but sony_imx_240 is better.
2.C) Has dedicated camera button allowing you to focus and take the picture.
2.D) Oh and i forgot something very important, Camera API 2 in galaxy s6 is very buggy even with android 5.1.1, Its so buggy infact that it is currently useless and unusuable.
3) Sony Xperia Z5 may have a cpu that is a bit weaker, but its noway "much" slower as people think, the phone does not suffer from overheating because Sony installed a special cooling system to keep the phone cool all the times, therefor throttling in general scenario cases (gaming, playing videos, etc...) does not occur in this phone.
4)The Xperia Z5 has a GPU that is a bit more powerfull than the Galaxy S6, it also supports special directX11 instructions set that the Galaxy S6 doesnt, for example Xperia Z5 can process hardware tesselation (yes by that i mean the thing you find in games like Grid or Colin Mcrae Dirt 2,3 etc...)
5)With the Xperia Z5 you have Radio, with Galaxy S6 you dont
6)With Xperia Z5 you have SD Card Support up to 200GB, Galaxy S6 has no SD Card Support.
7) Xperia Z5 has a better battery than Galaxy S6 (Galaxy S6 battery is only 2550mah)
8)With Galaxy S6 screen quality you are in a lottery to get a bad screen (screen with pink tint on it) and probably not all stores will allow you to return your phone because of the pink tint, Samsung will not swap it either because they consider it "normal" when it clearly isnt.
9) If you have a defective lens and you need to send it to samsung for repairs, Samsung may ignore your defective lens and pretend its normal and within "quality standards", which is not the case as some users complained in the galaxy s6 section of this forum.
Pros of Galaxy S6
1)You get a Remote Controled IR blaster which will allow you to control your TV, DVD and PowerBox.
2)You get an amazing OLED Screen instead of an LCD IPS Screen by Xperia Z5, there are drawbacks to oled screen, for example the OLED Screen can produce the best contrast ratio you can possibly think of, but the 2560*1440 resolution is not an RGB Matrix, its an interpolated color matrix, so the resolution is actually lower than the 2560*1440, if you are not carefull and you leave your phone screen on for a long time showing the same picture over and over again you can burn the screen and youll end up with shadow pixels that are no longer there, theres no way to fix this issue as its a natural degradation issue caused by CRT and OLEDs, LCD do not have this issue, still, overall the image quality of an OLED screen is unrivaled by any LCD screen no matter how much it costs, no matter who makes it, LCD screens are limited by their own technology when it comes to color fidelity, pixel response time and contrast ratio, things that OLED surpass by an unmeasurable margin Example: a good LCD screen has a contrast ratio of 1250:1, an OLED screen has unmeasurable contrast ratio (Over 1.000.000:1), an LCD screen (TFT screen which is worse image quality than an IPS screen) has around 2ms response time, a proper OLED screen has 0.01ms response time, resulting in less blurriness when playing fps games where camera moves alot.
3)You can set a lower screen resolution for any game you want to increase fps performance of said game, Xperia Z5 does not have this ability, altough the 1080p beying a lower resolution is a more or less good balance so it only needs said ability for like 2 or 3 games
4)You have heart rate sensor, oxigen blood level sensor and walking footstep sensor, frankly i dont use them much but they are an addition and a great bonus to some.
5)Galaxy S6 has a very good post processing resulting in little noise across the entire picture, but this makes all photos loose sharpness, something that the Xperia Z5 avoids by ignoring luminance noise and only post processing the chroma noise, so its a subjective taste, no camera is better than the other as galaxy s6 has its strengths and weakness and xperia z5 camera has its strengths and weakness.
6)Has OIS which works decently enough, altough in video mode Xperia Z5 has a much better video stabilization than Galaxy S6, Xperia Z5 has no OIS, so photos will have to be taken with a more steady hand.
So if you really want an impressive camera, i would go for the Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6 has an excelent camera but it doesnt really stand out as innovative or simply awesome with nothing to match it, LG G4 is a very good competitor (camera wise) to the Galaxy S6, Xperia Z5 camera is unique, its Wide angle lens is excelent and no other phone comes close to it because of its unique specifications, ill tell you right now im more impressed with the Xperia Z5 camera than with the Galaxy S6 camera.

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The 810 simply put cannot be tamed by just putting in a heat pipe. The phone does throttle and hence why they've done other things to combat how quickly it heats up. Every phone will throttle, some faster than others and the Z5 does throttle. And thus the GPU might be more "powerful" but your likely to get better performance on the S6 because it doesn't throttle as quickly or aggressively as many 810 phones. Qualcomm **** the bed this year and they know it and so does everyone else.

King p1n said:
The 810 simply put cannot be tamed by just putting in a heat pipe. The phone does throttle and hence why they've done other things to combat how quickly it heats up. Every phone will throttle, some faster than others and the Z5 does throttle. And thus the GPU might be more "powerful" but your likely to get better performance on the S6 because it doesn't throttle as quickly or aggressively as many 810 phones. Qualcomm **** the bed this year and they know it and so does everyone else.
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The Xperia Z5 810 snapdragon chipset is a second generation chipset, it is not the same like in HTC One M9, it doesnt have a heat pipe it has 2 joint heat pipes and it does NOT throttle, ive played it with all graphics on max on dead effect 2 and even nova, and never ive seen it throttle or raise absurd temperatures.
Only Xperia Z5 Compact throttles because it has a weaker cooling system.

Me too I hesitated between the Z5, the S6 and the Moto X Pure (Quickly ditched it because of the SD808). In the end I picked the Z5 for a simple but very good reason: Its firmware is almost stock. I remembered my Note 3 and Note 4, and I decided I didn't want to deal with Touchwiz anymore.
But in the end, the Z5 and the S6 are both excellent flagship phones. You can't go wrong.

TheWarKeeper said:
The Xperia Z5 810 snapdragon chipset is a second generation chipset, it is not the same like in HTC One M9, it doesnt have a heat pipe it has 2 joint heat pipes and it does NOT throttle, ive played it with all graphics on max on dead effect 2 and even nova, and never ive seen it throttle or raise absurd temperatures.
Only Xperia Z5 Compact throttles because it has a weaker cooling system.
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ALL snapdragon 810 phones use the v2.1 as per qualcomm have basically said 2.1 was an update to the chip driver's.
Furthermore it has 2 heat pipes I'm fully aware and yes it does and will throttle, as ALL phone's do especially the 810. Even the S6 will throttle and just not as quickly.

King p1n said:
ALL snapdragon 810 phones use the v2.1 as per qualcomm have basically said 2.1 was an update to the chip driver's.
Furthermore it has 2 heat pipes I'm fully aware and yes it does and will throttle, as ALL phone's do especially the 810. Even the S6 will throttle and just not as quickly.
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Ok, now you are confusing driver version with hardware revision version, the drivers are different in those SoCs in order to accomodate the chip newer revision regardless if the drivers have the same version number.
Furthermore the v2.1 has slightly improved performance compared to v2.0.
Heres more info regarding this chip: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9388/comparing-snapdragon-810-v2-and-v21
Even they state that the chip throttling is improved, and as ive said, playing Dead Trigger 2 with all on max and Nova, AND Relic Run Tomb Raider resulted in no throttling.
Now about the throttling system, you can throttle pretty much anything if you push it that way, you can even throttle a watercooled intel i7-3820 or a gfx card like HD7970 if you push it hard enough with some silly benchmark tests. Infact some AMD Cards had throttle implemented because of the some exagerated burn gfx benchmark applications in order to save various components like VRM from such stupid tests.
All in all, nor Galaxy S6 nor Xperia Z5 throttle when gaming under normal conditions even with the hardest games out there, Xperia Z5 S810 V2.1 is well tamed and temperature are not that hot.
If it is ok with you, i would like to not hijack this thread for such a silly matter when Sony clearly did a great job taming the S810 perfectly in balance, we can further discuss this in PM as this will be my last post about this specific debate in this thread.
Cheers.

You can search for my post history regarding S6 vs. Z5. I moved to the Z5 from the S6 as soon as I could get it. Zero regrets. I absolutely hated the S6. Most frustrating phone I've ever owned.

Help deciding on what to upgrade (from z5)

Hi there.
Currently owning the z5. I intend to upgrade to a sd820, I know, minor upgrade but I am tired with this phone getting hot. (it gets hot whenever updating apps from play store, syncing my photos to the cloud and even chrome browsing, I won't even mention any camera related activity).
So I am choosing between Sony..again, the xperia x performance and the one plus 3.
I care most about battery performance and as I said the device not getting too hot (which, in turn can negatively affect the previous battery life). Then I'd like to have a useable camera (photos mostly). By the way, z5's photo capabilities are good enough for me, however I hated how the camera overheats and stops sometimes. Finally, audio performance is also important.
From what I can gather, oneplus 3 battery life is only marginally better. I also heard that xperia xp occasionally gets hot? Camera performance seems to not be a deciding factor, however I was only looking at some picture samples I found, I rather prefer the Sony's but it might be just me being used to z5's color/saturation?
Could anyone that had exposure to both these devices help me with deciding between the 2 on these aspects:
Battery life
Photo quality
Audio
Overall performance (as in everyday use)
Thanks
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millicent said:
Hi there.
Currently owning the z5. I intend to upgrade to a sd820, I know, minor upgrade but I am tired with this phone getting hot. (it gets hot whenever updating apps from play store, syncing my photos to the cloud and even chrome browsing, I won't even mention any camera related activity).
So I am choosing between Sony..again, the xperia x performance and the one plus 3.
I care most about battery performance and as I said the device not getting too hot (which, in turn can negatively affect the previous battery life). Then I'd like to have a useable camera (photos mostly). By the way, z5's photo capabilities are good enough for me, however I hated how the camera overheats and stops sometimes. Finally, audio performance is also important.
From what I can gather, oneplus 3 battery life is only marginally better. I also heard that xperia xp occasionally gets hot? Camera performance seems to not be a deciding factor, however I was only looking at some picture samples I found, I rather prefer the Sony's but it might be just me being used to z5's color/saturation?
Could anyone that had exposure to both these devices help me with deciding between the 2 on these aspects:
Battery life
Photo quality
Audio
Overall performance (as in everyday use)
Thanks
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Sorry I can't be of use when choosing between the two phones but I would just wait until Sony bring out their next generation of handsets and you can decide if it's good enough or not.
I'm not impressed with Z5's to be honest (I have a Z5 Compact) but loved the design. It's a bit thick (hard to hold) and a bit heavy though.

I wouldn't buy Sony again after my Z5 experience. They've fixed most things now, but given the price I would expect a lot more. One+ looks great

I would suggest you a HTC 10. Bought one for my Mother a few weeks ago. Its really great!

im with EDGN htc 10 upto 50% faster from Z5 and better sound
dont know about picture and battery
and im also not gonna buy SONY anymore... sony X is about same as Z5+-,,, and Sony XP maybe faster but same audio, same lens.. (without the 4K filming, only if rooting)
also lots of bugs not the same service and quality

To be honest, I paid $800CAD for my Z5 when it came out last year and it's finally a phone I can enjoy (took Sony almost 12 months to come up with a decent firmware though, and everything before .224 has been nothing but trouble for me: poor battery life, bluetooth disconnecting, phone freezing, laggy/choppy UI)... the Z5 now has a pretty good stock firmware and is a reliable device, but at this point, I don't feel it was worth all that money. The OnePlus 2 I almost purchased last year instead of the Z5 finally wasn't an inferior phone by any means, but it was a lot cheaper.
The only phone I would maybe be be willing to pay $800+ for at the moment is the Note 7 (because well, like Samsung or hate it, the Note 7 is the ULTIMATE Android phone), but realistically my next phone will most likely be a ~400-500$ phone I'll get next year (OnePlus 4? I liked my OnePlus One a lot, so there's a chance). Flagship specs for the asking price of a mid-range phone is appealing.
Considering flagship Sony phones are well built but are also very expensive (some may say overpriced), my next phone won't be a Xperia. I'm not impressed at all by the new Xperia X series (same old hardware, build quality isn't worthy of Sony and the Z series, same old camera sensor/optics, etc.). From now on, a phone will have to be VERY special to justify a $800+ price tag as far as I'm concerned.
If I were you:
#1: Keep your Z5, it's still a good phone, wait for the OnePlus 4 or next year flagships, at least they will be a worthy upgrade (the 820 isn't THAT faster than the 810. I doubt you can even notice the difference in day to day usage)
or
#2: If you can deal with the Samsung firmware (it's not that bad anymore), absolutely want a new phone and have some cash to spend: Sell your Z5 while it's still worth something, and go get a Note 7 (now that's a significative upgrade from the Z5. The SoC isn't that faster, but more memory, better/bigger display, better battery life, better camera, USB-C + wireless charging, etc.)
I don't see the point of replacing the Z5 for anything else beside the Note 7 at the moment. The current flagship phones (Galaxy S7, HTC10, G5, name them all) aren't enough of an upgrade imo versus the Z5 you're using at the moment
My 2 cents, and sorry for my less than pefect English (Not my primary, and not even my secondary language )

What about one plus 3? I believe it's worth the upgrade since you won't spent much after selling your z5. Full Manual camera settings, 4gb ram, crazy fast charging and the flawless oxygen os.
I'm actually thinking about it but since our z5 is the last z and my emerald green is a jewel I'm having drawbacks. Battery life is the problem on my z5 I never get more than 4 hours SOT.
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Just a follow-up on this..
So I gave up the z5 and bought the note 7 that I am using for 1 week.
In case anyone wanna know about the transition to samsung (my last samsung was the s2 awhile ago).
The reason I gave up the z5 was, I have mentioned before, the overheating issue, especially while operating the camera but there were some other instances.
In spite of this I kinda liked the z5 camera. Also, the battery life, when not overheating, I would get up to 6 hours sot in a full day. I also liked -- still do - some other
features of the z5, such as many elements of its hardware/software design, so normally I would've prefferred to move to a newer xperia iteration.
Anyways, I am on this samsung note 7. The device has been praised quite a bit so although initially I wouldn't consider it (reasons: samsung, touchwiz, edge screen) in the end I pre-ordered it.
So, how this note7 experience compares to z5:
battery: pretty much same battery experience, after having disabled some bloat (but only really a few so far, I think there's still room for improving further); I was hoping for more then 6 hours sot in a day considering the battery size but also, just like in the case of z5, I am using pretty much all the features, bt low power constantly on for my fitness/notification tracker, lte/wifi depending on location, all location scanning on, brightness half-way etc. I think the z5 standby time was better though.
overheating: no overheating so far, it's still warm outside (sometimes up to 30 deg Celsius). Yay!
performance: pretty much on par with z5, can't say the note is much faster as it should be perhaps.
screen: I am using the basic mode, brightness even at halfway is much more brighter than z5. Overall, the screen is fine and it's nice to see the actual deep blacks on it.
camera: I was afraid of this aspect. I am actually impressed by the camera performance, to resume, it seems to be just another generation really. The most impressive thing is how fast is it, even in low-light conditions. The only negative or positive if you will, the lens is less wide.
sound: another important factor, for me at least. Fortunately, samsung delivers here too. The wired or even bt sound compares well to the z5, to my non-audophile ears it sounds
much much better than sony's. The system equalizer actually works and makes a world of difference.
Other things note 7 I like: always on display, blue light filter, fingerprint works now all the time, the led cover view
What I miss from z5: xperia keyboard, fm player, double tap to wake, glove mode
Oh, and I received right away the August 1st security update (when I started it on August 22). Hopefully they keep up the momentum on this apsect.
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From S7 edge to Mate 9??

Hello.
So i have a chance to trade my used s7 edge for a used mate 9. I'm a bit bored with my s7 edge and looking for a new experience.
Will I regret it?? Anyone did this move?! Any recommendations?! Real life experiences?!
Thx.

I'm coming from S7, so I can share a bit of experience. Battery life not much an improvement ~4-6 hours SOT, depending on your usage scenario, games and videos tend to suck more battery than other phones (this is specific to Kirin SOC's). Speed and smoothness are still the same since the beginning , maybe improved through updates, it's not stellar but still one of the bests, in top 5 for speed for sure. Definitely better than S7 for speed matters. Dual camera is a nice feature to have, overall camera is good, but not execellent (much better than Oneplus 3T, which I've experienced). Coming from an S7 the low light will disappoint you a little particularly on moving subjects. One thing that should make you think twice is that updates come-out very slow on Huawei. Other than that everything is fine, maybe less errors and glitches that I've experienced on Samsung and the big screen experience is not matched by any other phone.

XZ owners do you recommend getting this phone now ?

Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know

korom42 said:
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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I don't know about google pixel ,but the camera of xz i notice by myself is superior by the others. Lg g6 have worst camera than g5, in more moments is worst than midrange. But on wide angle cameras panoramas is good. Of course on wideangle distortion can became in some situation very visible (the distortion on sonyies are for wideangle lens but there are not that visible). But xz destroys g6 on camera...day and night photos. Galaxy s7 produces false photos. The photos on his amoled screen seems great but on reality have more defect. Too filters applied. Yellow and reddish photos .. For example a summer photo of a lake , became autumn photo of lake,thanks to samsung filters. On night photos is easy to shoot with this device but with some burned dettails. Xz on day destroys s7, on night depends . Xz produces more dettailed photos than s7. But s7 have ois and some photos on night are easier to shoot. One plus 3t have a mid range camera ....is a phone studied for modding expecially. Talking about xz i think is the most stable phone in my opinion ...probably op3t is on similar level. I reccomand xz expecially for stability and less problems. I have some friends with s7 and g6 and they have a lot of problems . For alternative to xz i reccomand op3t if you find one. Is the one with less problems like xz. Xz use great the snapdragon 820. 821 is the same processor with only better energy use. But sony,thanks to his great optimizzation, make tha 820 less battery drainer, like 821. Every month Sony release security patches there, before of most OEM. Device have very good performance and very good battery. Signal is great there, one of better phones to have best signal (i think better than your alternatieves). Modding is good there but not one of best(but it seems grow). Ram seems doesn't have any problems .Phone is rock stable and very fluid . Sony optimizzation is the best in my opinion. It doesn't have raw ...but post processing is very natural. Raw seems enable only on aosp roms. If you doesn't worry about modding, give a look on xzs. More ram,loops ui, xzp and xz1 camera with all great new features. But no modding. If you want, give me all questions about xz. I'm very happy with my xz.

Hi,
Also consider screen size.. the XZ is rather small compare to G6, OP3t.
Then it's also Amoled vs LCD but maybe more personal?
The only thing I'm not really happy with mine is battery life, was used to more for a Sony phone, you have to tinker around to get something acceptable. Also would have prefer an Amoled screen since I read a lot so once again better for battery
Personally I would pass on the G6, XDA thread seems empty and LG support bad..
Pixel camera would be the best I guess, but you loose waterproofing.
Then it's Sony over Samsung for me for the "media" experience, sound, ldac bT etc
Also camera is actually really good. Auto is OK+ but manual gives really good shot when you know what you do.

Sony need manual settings to take good pic in low light. XZ have the best display in the market now. Super bright red and clear white. Other colors are naturals and clear. Its no juicy like Amoled or washed like other TFTs. I had G5 with screen burn problem. It have too many phones G5 and V10 with this problem. I dont know for G6 but look at it. Pixel have no IP 68 and its no interesting for me.
One Plus - no thanks. So so tricky warranty service.
S7 is stupid. I feel it in hand like a soap. And Samy dont cover under warranty water damages. I have frend in official Samy service here in Bulgaria and he told me that IP 68 nevermind. Its nothing for Samy. Just commercials.

For me thats a 100% not recommended, looking at the alternatives you posted above; go for the pixel without hesitation. I've used both, the XZ is inferior in almost every aspect except for waterproofing.
Dont get me started on overheating and battery issues, i just came back from a hot area where the phone was almost unusable just because i was standing in the sun for a little bit; once the phone temperature hits 42, forget about being productive anymore, for me this disadvantage is bigger than all the advantages above (even if it had the best camera, screen, speakers etc...) since i cant actually use the phone.

Just get the forest blue XZ, and forget the others.
I running stock on mine, unmodified, September security patch and battery life is very excellent, no overheating.
And I have to agree Sony optimisation is exceptional, I run my phone once for 20 straight days without reboot or slow down, the phone was still smooth.

korom42 said:
Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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IF you're not chasing for glamour and high end phones these days..e.g. pixel phones, Lg g6, etc.. then XZ still worth to buy. ...Otherwise if you're looking forward for OnePlus, i suggest go for OP 5 instead of OP 3T. Imho
*OnePlus, Pixel phones=Dev enthusiasts+Custom ROMs friendly

S8 to S10e

Hi, I'm currently using a S8 plus. I'm thinking off upgrading to the S10e. Has anyone who currently owns this device confirm if the S10e is a good upgrade from the S8 plus? Is battery much better? Is camera significantly better etc etc?
Any help and feedback is appreciated.
Thanks

smuzza said:
Hi, I'm currently using a S8 plus. I'm thinking off upgrading to the S10e. Has anyone who currently owns this device confirm if the S10e is a good upgrade from the S8 plus? Is battery much better? Is camera significantly better etc etc?
Any help and feedback is appreciated.
Thanks
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Did exactly that while also having the S9 for a week. S8->S9 is a slight upgrade. Camera is a bit better, speakers and stereo-sound is a nice upgrade and it is slightly snappier. The One UI 2 Upgrade also brings much better RAM Management and Apps in the background close less often and the new Fingerprint location is easier to reach. Battery seemed slightly better but the S8 was also older and so might not have had its full capacity in comparison.
S8/S9->S10e is a much bigger upgrade. Camera is leagues ahead and the extra wide angle gives you so much more room to play with. Snappiness again increased and you absolutely feel the 2GB more RAM throughout the day (No closed Apps in the background). Battery seems the same in my use case to the S9. The speakers feels to be a downgrade from the S9 tho as they start crackling when on (near) full volume while the S9 speaker seemed better tuned. The new fingerprint sensor in the power button is also nice to have as i often want to take a glance while the phone is lying on the table. Missed the function to unlock without having to pick the phone up since i left my S7 behind.
All in all the S10e is a distinct upgrade over the S8. If anyone reading this got an S9, then its mostly the camera and maybe the extra RAM depending on your use case. It won't feel as a big upgrade if your already running One UI 2 and don't have Apps closing on you or want the latest camera tech.
With GCAM (look for Zexynos) the S8 and S9 look the same btw and easily crush the S10(e) in many cases.
All the above is for the Exynos variants. With Snapdragon speed increases could be bigger but battery differences could be lower.

Sorry but my opinion after upgrading from an S8 to S10 is don't do it.
I have found the camera on the 10e to be worse in every way from the S8.
My wife usually takes my old phone each time i upgrade but she has already told me she does not want this one when i change and i may decide to get rid of it early even though i only got it in September 19.
In daylight, the camera is fine but as soon as you move in doors to artificial or low light, it is woeful.
If you zoom in the pictures are full of noise and they look fake, i have pictures where skin has large chunks looking waxy or plastic, way too over processed.
If you look at Samsungs own forum for S10/S10E you will find loads of posts all around the same issues.
What makes it more annoying is the adverts and initial reviews stated the camera was professional quality yet a recent write up i seen about the soon to be released S11 was that it aimed to improve on the S10 camera which was inferior to the Pixel 3.
Other features of phone are decent but the S8 is also a very capable phone.
My own intention for the future is to move away from Samsung despite being with them since the S2 as it is the first time i have felt the new phone is inferior to the previous one.
Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.

Thanks for the replies. In all honesty I'd prefer to get the S10+ but it seems to be quite expensive still. I was thinking towards the S10e instead since it's cheaper but might hold out for something else.