Hi all
As said in title , I just sold my LG G4 after repairing it (its screen got damaged by water )
Now I'm confused between buying the Z5 / S6 . My budget is quite limited so I can't go for the Z5 premium or s6 edge+
In my country the Xperia Z5 costs arround 120$ more than the Galaxy S6 .
Note that what really matters for me is the Camera quality , Perfomance and the battey .
I really like the design of Z5 , besides it's waterproof . But the S6 has a much sharper and better display .
and the exynos CPU of S6 is much better than SD810 which has a bad reputation because of heating issues .
What do you guys suggest to me ?
And what are the the avaliable models of the Z5 , because where I live I found some have the E6633 Model which is I think Dual sim
and what are the diffrences between those models ?
I had first the S6 for 4 months and now the Z5.
The camera quality of the S6 is definetly better in my eyes if were talking about taking pictures.
With videos i would say the Z5 is better because the videos are not shacking that much.
So the Z5 camera is not really bad but since most people are usually taking more pictures i would prefer the S6 if that's your most important feature.
With the latest .200 firmware update i think the Z5 doesn't heat up that much anymore.
It's still waterproofed and has a nice design without an outstanding camera module.
In my eyes the battery life of the S6 and the Z5 are pretty equal. That's at least what i noticed.
And about differences of the models... yes there exists a dual sim Z5 but i'm not sure if it exists in every country.
I guess the differences are not spectacular besides the second sim tray hehe
hope i could help you a little
Save yourself some money and just get the S6.
Thats what I plan to do, Z5 isnt worth its price tag imo.
Please do not listen to the typical the galaxy s6 has a better camera talk because this simply is not true!
I have owned both and i will tell you right now why the Xperia Z5 is the better phone for you.
1) Camera Resolution, Xperia Z5 can take 20.7mp pictures in 16:9 mode, Galaxy S6 can only take 15.9mp pictures in 16:9 mode
2.A)Camera Quality, Xperia Z5 takes photos with incredible color fidelity and much sharper photos, by comparison the galaxy s6 photos look a bit blurry
2.B) With Xperia Z5 you get the same camera experience as all other costumers that bought the Xperia Z5, with Galaxy S6 you are in a lottery to get a worse or a better camera, Some Galaxy S6 has IsoCell Camera Sensor which is the Old Gen Galaxy S5 Camera Sensor or if youre lucky you get the Sony IMX 240 Camera Sensor, both are good, but sony_imx_240 is better.
2.C) Has dedicated camera button allowing you to focus and take the picture.
2.D) Oh and i forgot something very important, Camera API 2 in galaxy s6 is very buggy even with android 5.1.1, Its so buggy infact that it is currently useless and unusuable.
3) Sony Xperia Z5 may have a cpu that is a bit weaker, but its noway "much" slower as people think, the phone does not suffer from overheating because Sony installed a special cooling system to keep the phone cool all the times, therefor throttling in general scenario cases (gaming, playing videos, etc...) does not occur in this phone.
4)The Xperia Z5 has a GPU that is a bit more powerfull than the Galaxy S6, it also supports special directX11 instructions set that the Galaxy S6 doesnt, for example Xperia Z5 can process hardware tesselation (yes by that i mean the thing you find in games like Grid or Colin Mcrae Dirt 2,3 etc...)
5)With the Xperia Z5 you have Radio, with Galaxy S6 you dont
6)With Xperia Z5 you have SD Card Support up to 200GB, Galaxy S6 has no SD Card Support.
7) Xperia Z5 has a better battery than Galaxy S6 (Galaxy S6 battery is only 2550mah)
8)With Galaxy S6 screen quality you are in a lottery to get a bad screen (screen with pink tint on it) and probably not all stores will allow you to return your phone because of the pink tint, Samsung will not swap it either because they consider it "normal" when it clearly isnt.
9) If you have a defective lens and you need to send it to samsung for repairs, Samsung may ignore your defective lens and pretend its normal and within "quality standards", which is not the case as some users complained in the galaxy s6 section of this forum.
Pros of Galaxy S6
1)You get a Remote Controled IR blaster which will allow you to control your TV, DVD and PowerBox.
2)You get an amazing OLED Screen instead of an LCD IPS Screen by Xperia Z5, there are drawbacks to oled screen, for example the OLED Screen can produce the best contrast ratio you can possibly think of, but the 2560*1440 resolution is not an RGB Matrix, its an interpolated color matrix, so the resolution is actually lower than the 2560*1440, if you are not carefull and you leave your phone screen on for a long time showing the same picture over and over again you can burn the screen and youll end up with shadow pixels that are no longer there, theres no way to fix this issue as its a natural degradation issue caused by CRT and OLEDs, LCD do not have this issue, still, overall the image quality of an OLED screen is unrivaled by any LCD screen no matter how much it costs, no matter who makes it, LCD screens are limited by their own technology when it comes to color fidelity, pixel response time and contrast ratio, things that OLED surpass by an unmeasurable margin Example: a good LCD screen has a contrast ratio of 1250:1, an OLED screen has unmeasurable contrast ratio (Over 1.000.000:1), an LCD screen (TFT screen which is worse image quality than an IPS screen) has around 2ms response time, a proper OLED screen has 0.01ms response time, resulting in less blurriness when playing fps games where camera moves alot.
3)You can set a lower screen resolution for any game you want to increase fps performance of said game, Xperia Z5 does not have this ability, altough the 1080p beying a lower resolution is a more or less good balance so it only needs said ability for like 2 or 3 games
4)You have heart rate sensor, oxigen blood level sensor and walking footstep sensor, frankly i dont use them much but they are an addition and a great bonus to some.
5)Galaxy S6 has a very good post processing resulting in little noise across the entire picture, but this makes all photos loose sharpness, something that the Xperia Z5 avoids by ignoring luminance noise and only post processing the chroma noise, so its a subjective taste, no camera is better than the other as galaxy s6 has its strengths and weakness and xperia z5 camera has its strengths and weakness.
6)Has OIS which works decently enough, altough in video mode Xperia Z5 has a much better video stabilization than Galaxy S6, Xperia Z5 has no OIS, so photos will have to be taken with a more steady hand.
So if you really want an impressive camera, i would go for the Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6 has an excelent camera but it doesnt really stand out as innovative or simply awesome with nothing to match it, LG G4 is a very good competitor (camera wise) to the Galaxy S6, Xperia Z5 camera is unique, its Wide angle lens is excelent and no other phone comes close to it because of its unique specifications, ill tell you right now im more impressed with the Xperia Z5 camera than with the Galaxy S6 camera.
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The 810 simply put cannot be tamed by just putting in a heat pipe. The phone does throttle and hence why they've done other things to combat how quickly it heats up. Every phone will throttle, some faster than others and the Z5 does throttle. And thus the GPU might be more "powerful" but your likely to get better performance on the S6 because it doesn't throttle as quickly or aggressively as many 810 phones. Qualcomm **** the bed this year and they know it and so does everyone else.
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The 810 simply put cannot be tamed by just putting in a heat pipe. The phone does throttle and hence why they've done other things to combat how quickly it heats up. Every phone will throttle, some faster than others and the Z5 does throttle. And thus the GPU might be more "powerful" but your likely to get better performance on the S6 because it doesn't throttle as quickly or aggressively as many 810 phones. Qualcomm **** the bed this year and they know it and so does everyone else.
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The Xperia Z5 810 snapdragon chipset is a second generation chipset, it is not the same like in HTC One M9, it doesnt have a heat pipe it has 2 joint heat pipes and it does NOT throttle, ive played it with all graphics on max on dead effect 2 and even nova, and never ive seen it throttle or raise absurd temperatures.
Only Xperia Z5 Compact throttles because it has a weaker cooling system.
Me too I hesitated between the Z5, the S6 and the Moto X Pure (Quickly ditched it because of the SD808). In the end I picked the Z5 for a simple but very good reason: Its firmware is almost stock. I remembered my Note 3 and Note 4, and I decided I didn't want to deal with Touchwiz anymore.
But in the end, the Z5 and the S6 are both excellent flagship phones. You can't go wrong.
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The Xperia Z5 810 snapdragon chipset is a second generation chipset, it is not the same like in HTC One M9, it doesnt have a heat pipe it has 2 joint heat pipes and it does NOT throttle, ive played it with all graphics on max on dead effect 2 and even nova, and never ive seen it throttle or raise absurd temperatures.
Only Xperia Z5 Compact throttles because it has a weaker cooling system.
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ALL snapdragon 810 phones use the v2.1 as per qualcomm have basically said 2.1 was an update to the chip driver's.
Furthermore it has 2 heat pipes I'm fully aware and yes it does and will throttle, as ALL phone's do especially the 810. Even the S6 will throttle and just not as quickly.
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ALL snapdragon 810 phones use the v2.1 as per qualcomm have basically said 2.1 was an update to the chip driver's.
Furthermore it has 2 heat pipes I'm fully aware and yes it does and will throttle, as ALL phone's do especially the 810. Even the S6 will throttle and just not as quickly.
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Ok, now you are confusing driver version with hardware revision version, the drivers are different in those SoCs in order to accomodate the chip newer revision regardless if the drivers have the same version number.
Furthermore the v2.1 has slightly improved performance compared to v2.0.
Heres more info regarding this chip: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9388/comparing-snapdragon-810-v2-and-v21
Even they state that the chip throttling is improved, and as ive said, playing Dead Trigger 2 with all on max and Nova, AND Relic Run Tomb Raider resulted in no throttling.
Now about the throttling system, you can throttle pretty much anything if you push it that way, you can even throttle a watercooled intel i7-3820 or a gfx card like HD7970 if you push it hard enough with some silly benchmark tests. Infact some AMD Cards had throttle implemented because of the some exagerated burn gfx benchmark applications in order to save various components like VRM from such stupid tests.
All in all, nor Galaxy S6 nor Xperia Z5 throttle when gaming under normal conditions even with the hardest games out there, Xperia Z5 S810 V2.1 is well tamed and temperature are not that hot.
If it is ok with you, i would like to not hijack this thread for such a silly matter when Sony clearly did a great job taming the S810 perfectly in balance, we can further discuss this in PM as this will be my last post about this specific debate in this thread.
Cheers.
You can search for my post history regarding S6 vs. Z5. I moved to the Z5 from the S6 as soon as I could get it. Zero regrets. I absolutely hated the S6. Most frustrating phone I've ever owned.
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Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
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Samsung Galaxy Note 4, has an incredible camera, crystal clear photo's
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Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
Have a look at the Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
Alternatively, the Note 4 has a good sensor, too. And it is the most powerful phone available on the market. You can keep using that without any headaches for at least 3-4 years as high-end, and mid-end for another 2-4 after that.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
The best camera phone are the Nokia Lumia, if you want Microsoft OS, or the Xperia z3 if you want android; the latest has pretty performance and battery life, but I'm sorry I don't know nothing about Nokia because I don't like the OS let me know what will you buy :thumbup:
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Note 4 is HUGE, i don't call those things phones tbh! and it is very expensive.
What about Xperia Z3 and Galaxy S5? Any opinions on those?
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Galaxy K Zoom. It's designed as a camera that you can also use as a phone, not the 'phone with a camera'.
The most important thing to look at for camera quality is the sensor size. The bigger the sensor, the better the photographs.
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Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
flywheels said:
Galaxy S5 is great too. 16MP stills and 1080p/30fps video. GSM Arena ranked it second and first for stills and video respectively. Also a good all around phone, if you don't care about using the stock Android UI!
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Well we don't mind the current UI we have now, is there anything that annoying about S5's UI that I should worry about?
goldendye said:
Great advise! How can I find the sensor size for a phone? Cuz I didn't see such a thing on GSM Arena Phone Specs.
K Zoom seems a fine phone, but low CPU and lots of complaints about dust getting into the phone and other issues by its users.
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Right, I'd forgotten that the K Zoom only comes in the Exynos variant. Sorry about that.
Sometimes GSMArena does list the sensor size, It's under Camera > Features if they do. (For instance on the HTC M8 (1/3'' sensor size).) In some cases they list the sensor size in the review of the phone.
Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
HTC M8 and iPhone 5S are 1/3".
With sensors under 1", the lower the number behind the /, the better. (So 2.6 is better than 3). Admittedly sensor size isn't everything, but it's the deciding factor when it comes to sharpness, particularly in less than full-light conditions.
I have an explanation on sensor importance *somewhere*, let me dig around for it.. Edit: Ah, here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50953511&postcount=6
I remember one Lumia had a very good camera
honestly i always think iphone cam is not bad. but if if its android htc definitely have a decent cam
best detailing in note 4
best color reproduction and dynamic range in iphone 6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/best-camera-smartphone-comparisons-t2901826
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Sadly, it mostly comes down to Googling " [phone name] Sensor size".
The one in the Note 4 and S5 are 1/2.6”. The Note 4 also has Optical Image Stabilisation, which adds a clear advantage in terms of image quality.
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Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
goldendye said:
Aha, so according to his:
Z3: 1/2.3 and , 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
s5: 1/2.6 and, 5312 x 2988 pixels, 16 MP
K Zoom (as the ideal camera): 1/2.3, 5248 х 3936 pixels, 20.7 MP
Clearly, Z3 is the best of three. Its camera is better than S5, and the same as K Zoom. it is smaller in size, less weight (16 grams), 0.7 inch smaller Screen (which is actually a positive feature for me), better Androind version, also will upgrade to 5.0, has radio, fast charging, none of the nonsense apps of Samsung which i really hate, better performance rate
But S5 has a one third better screen quality, Corning Gorilla Glass (I'm not sure if this is better than IPS), microUSB 3.0 (I don't think that's really important), dual video recording (maybe an app can compensate for this), better battery, and it seems it is much more efficient (21 hrs talk time compared to 12 on z3!!), better contrast ratio (i dont care)
Same chipset, same CPU, same GPU, but the endurance rate on z3 is 101h compared to 72h on S5, I don't know what that is.
I think I have chosen my phone , except the battery worries me.
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Are you looking at the Z3 or the Z3 Compact? From the specs i'd say the Compact, correct?
The reason the S5 has a better batterylife is because of the AMOLED screen. AMOLED has the advantage that black pixels are off as opposed to dark grey, meaning they don't drain power. (AMOLED is also more colour intensive and crisper.)
Contrast ratio is simply because of the darkest grey vs turned off pixels. AMOLED is the only type of screen capable of true black. Oh and it has a higher readability in direct sunlight.
IPS is a type of display, not a type of glass. Corning Gorrila Glass (3) is very tough, but I don't know what's on the Z3 or how it holds out in tests. You can always look up droptests on Youtube.
MicroUSB3 isn't important, as the MTP protocol slows down transfer speed right down to the USB2 values anyway. Samsung dropped USB3 on newer devices.
The S5 doesn't have a radio, no. That bothers a great many of us, myself included.
The Snapdragon 801 is the part that has the fast charging. All S801 devices have it.
Touchwiz is a waste of time and space, on that I fully agree. (They laughed at me when I told them so, though.) Fortunately they've changed the principle a bit so that it doesn't come with 100 bloatware anymore, but there's still some of it installed. Mainly, Touchwiz. (ugh!)
The S5 has KNOX, which you can't not trip whilst flashing custom roms. It voids your warranty.
In terms of security the S5 has a fingerprint scanner.
There's one other thing to the S5 I should mention, and that's the disgustingly ugly UI colour scheme. Which you can't change.
the tl:dr version:
- The S5 screen is AMOLED, which turns black pixels off. That doubles the battery life.
- IPS is a type of LCD display, (The S5 has AMOLED) Gorrilla Glass is a type of treated scratch resistent glass.
- All Snapdragon 801 devices have Fast Charging.
- USB3 is a waste, MTP doesn't allow USB3 speed.
- The Z3 has a radio.
- S5 has KNOX.(negative thing.)
Simply put the S5 has a better, brighter and crisper screen with better battery life; the Z3 is more compact, has a better camera and an FM radio.
You can also read these two and compare the photo's for a decent camera comparison.
Z3 Compact: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-review-1135p8.php
S5: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1064p9.php
Is the fact that Z3 Compact has non-removable battery a fact to worry about?
Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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Obviously, Lumia has better camera. But if you want it with better performance and battery life. Z3 would be a better choice.
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I don't think it does, because it's a 10 MP camera with 1/3.4" sensor size. Although yes, it is Carl Zeiss.
goldendye said:
Hey there,
I am looking for a new phone, kinda fed up with my previous Galaxy Wonder which was bought considering budget limits, but now I'm on to buying a new phone, for myself and for my mother.
For me, performance is the most important thing, a phone that I can keep for a couple of years without headaches, and for my mother Camera is the most important thing- she wants quality pictures with sharp images. I guess a phone which has both would be the better choice. I have come to the conclusion that just looking at MP doesn't tell you how good the camera really is (my 5 MP Carl Zeiss Nokia was way better than my friends 8 MP Sony Ericsson at the time, or it seems iPhones take very sharp pictures). So what phones do you recommend we buy (Do you guys consider iPhones and Microsoft phones like Nokia as well?)
Thankyou
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CAMERA
A $100-200 dedicated camera takes much better pictures than any smartphone ever could (especially with 10x+ optical zoom). Your mum would be better off with such a camera in addition to a smartphone. At any rate, all flagships have "good enough" cameras with not a lot to choose between them. Mid-range and budget models often sacrifice the camera to meet their price points (one reason buying used high-end flagships is an option to consider).
OS
For some people iPhones/WindowsPhones/Blackberry/etc are taken into consideration particularly for the convenience of having the manufacturer control everything so you don't have to. For others, the somewhat open [source] nature of Android is paramount - it permits options that the other platforms actively prevent e.g. custom roms, privacy controls, customizations.
PERFORMANCE
You say performance is the most important thing. What level of performance?. I'll bet that a Samsung Galaxy S2 (yes S2...not S3, S4 or S5) is plenty fast enough for most people today and the Moto G is faster than that. So, is a Moto G performant enough for you? Or is it more like Nexus 5? Perhaps you need Note 4's level of performance? What activities requires the most performance on your phone currently and for the next couple of years?
Personally, I rate water/dust resistance highly (Xperia Acro S, Xperia Z/Z1/Z2/Z3/M2 Aqua, Galaxy S5, HTC Butterfly2). A 720p screen should be minimum now that the 1st gen Moto G exists. I prefer both a microsd slot and a removable battery. I would certainly want both if paying for a high-end device.
The Xperia Z3/Z3C, HTC Butterfly2, Samsung S5, Nexus 5/6 are all contenders if flagship devices are what you want. If you want to pay less, the Moto G and used flagships (Galaxy S3/S3/Note3, Xperia Z1/Z2, Nexus 5) are good options.
My main concern is the gps accuracy and overheating issues. Which is better?
s6 without a doubt if you can get the z5 that would a good phone but overal still not as good as the s6 because it has an amoled screen
there is no comparison...the S6....better screen, camera, UI, cpu, gpu.....the only thing better in the sony is the battery life.....also i don't like sony's phones because they look like a cube...it's like no beauty...just sharp edges....
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My main concern is the gps accuracy and overheating issues. Which is better?
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i have had the z3+ . it HOT like fire. don't purchase.
Just get the S6.
I had the sony z1, z ultra , z3+ . The z3+ was worst . Bad notification light (unlike z1 where you get a bar of light that you can actually seee in daylight) plus it overheats and throttles like hell. I now have LG G3 (same **** with overheating but the speaker is way way louder and the screen much nices and crisper than z3/z3+) and a S6 920F .
What about the z5?
Just get the S6, the Z5 fingerprint scanner is also trashy according to reviews. The screen is not super amoled, and that Exynoss will just crush the Z5 SnapDragon, not to mention the S6 is pretty cool and the Z5 gets hot very usually.
Without a doubt get the S6, if you need water protection get the S6 Active.
Hii Folks!
So I just got back from our local mall and took a test drive of the New Z5 Premium. I'm stoked. From the fingerprint unlock to the Camera Test, amazing. Its fast too. I was trying to stress the device by multitasking really fast, flawless. I'm now having a dilemma if I'll sell my S6 and go Z5P. Oooorrrr, wait for Marshmallow then decide whether to throw in the towel. No bashing please. Thanks!
I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
I think maybe wait till marshmallow drops. Many beta users have reported that the fingerprint sensor speed and recognition has improved in the marshmallow update.
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I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
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I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
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I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64808179&postcount=1013
I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
I would give MM a chance on the S6
Like M...N said there are reports of more effective and usable fingerprint sensor support.
- Renolz
I actually sold my 8months old S6 (64gb) and got myself a new Xperia Z5 (dual) black. As stated earlier my S6 had a lot of network connectivity issues which got worse with time, got repaired but to no use. I was bit unsure about how good the camera would be on Z5 as there are mixed reviews.
My quick review of Z5 compared to S6 (after 2 days use):
- Better battery backup: my Z5 is at 67% after a full days use (charged fully at 10 am), while my S6 used to be at 4-5% by this time and had to charge it at least once daily (sometimes twice daily). 3g data on all the time with some voice calls, chrome browsing, whatsapp etc. Only using one sim in Z5.
- Camera: IMO the daylight pics on Z5 (23mp manual mode) are better overall than S6 (sony sensor). The pics are sharper overall with vibrant colors but slightly noisier compared to softer (less noisier) dull looking pics on the S6. The night pics are comparable on both but S6 auto mode does way better job than sony's. You actually need to know the manual mode on the Xperia very well as to get good results in poor light (which are comparable to or sometimes even better than S6). Also the camera app is faster and easier to use on the S6 compared to Z5. But, to me (a long time sony user) its a non issue. Mind it there are faulty units with lots of lens blurring and all (as apparent from reviews online) with Z5 in particular, so you need to keep that in mind. Mine doesn't have any such issue.
- Screen and touch response: Samoled vs Ips lcd. Both have their pros and cons. I like the touch response on the Z5 better though. Auto brightness works better on Z5.
- Network connectivity: Much better on the Z5 IMO.
- UI: Z5 has cleaner UI which is seamless. Samsung UI felt a bit laggy at times but both phones are pretty snappy.
P.S - I'm really happy with my purchase overall! Sony's camera app needs work for sure, which I'm confident will be done in coming updates. Samsung needs to improve upon its battery backup and UI IMO.
As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
If you need people to convince you to stay with galaxy s6, you've already made up your mind. Go with Z5, because you're always going to find a flaw with galaxy series.
Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
In reality, it is impossible to run the 28nm octa-core SD810 Z5 with a full day usage and still got 67% battery left. I think it will need a Z3c with KitKat rom to do that.
If you just trying to get best SOT out with super light use and tune the screen to real dark, it is achievable though. Indeed, I'm a S6 light user mostly and my S6 always got 6~7hrs SOT as well. Such a campaign doesn't reflect real world performance for most people. There are many complaints from medium to heavy users from Z5/Z5c/Z5p on XDA and talk sonymobile forum about battery life.
I always prefer color reproduction from Sony. S6 used a heavy noise reduction and a bit dull but there are just too much noises on Sony. Speaking to the details, both of my IMX240 and ISOCell performs better than my Z5c day and night. It is strange that your S6 IMX240 photo not as sharp as Z5, in my experiences the IMX240 is just too sharp and I even want it to be lower. Me any my friend got a Z5c, mine is absolutely perfect without blur while my friend one got slightly blur so clearly no problem on my camera.
Both got pros and cons on auto brightness and touch responsive. Z5 auto brightness is too bright while S6 is a bit dark but overall I prefer S6. S6 got faster touch responsive while power saving disabled and some lag when power saving on. Z5 is more consistency on this part with or without Stamina on.
Actually, S6 got way more custom roms and kernels but sure no AOSP/CM. S6 got knox trip but Sony also has DRM key and TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/samsung-galaxy-s-6--s-6-edge-unified-development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s6-t3269984
EDIT: I just found that CM13 is available now on S6
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As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
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the most accurate reply for this question :good:
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Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
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the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
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the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
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How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Regarding iPhone 6s:
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/681054354153971712
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/680299853801365504
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/641752688728764416
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
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How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
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first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
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first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review/8
According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
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it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
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No I yet again need to say this but I didnt mention lag. And yes the exynos chip is the best for android, but the sacrifice you need to make (no stable custom roms) is quite high. Anyway enjoy your phone, take care.
I sold a Z5 to come back to this phone. The premium is simply an oversized and ugly version of the Z5.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Real world use, the Z5 camera is absolutely awful, daylight and low light is blown away by S6, it distorts pictures, and has no stabilisation in low light so motion blur even when you keep very still. Battery life is awful (4hrs SOT), the screen is not sharp enough, the phone is laggy, runs very very hot, and is NOT water resistant, speakers get wrecked after any contact with water, permanently.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Aside from some very small skips (not lag) in settings menu, the S6 runs smooth and fast and battery life is 5hours SOT, camera is unbeatable. Very glad I got an S6 again.
On a side note, I have an Iphone 6 for work, unfortunately, and its far from lag free and smooth. It is buggy and battery life is mediocre at best although it does charge fast. Camera is useless.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64808179&postcount=1013
I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
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The question I have for you is, none of my third party apps can auto focus the s6 rear camera. Only the official camera app and HwTest app can. Do you have any experience with this?
Hey guys so im buing a new phone and i've stopped on these two the Xperia x performance because of the Snapdragon 820 and the Galaxy S6 because i like samsung phones and touchwiz in general . I can get the GS6 for 380 dollars and the Xperia for 420 dollars both are new not used i don't buy used products .
Go for Galaxy S6 of course! I had Galaxy S6 Edge+ for few months then I switched to Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and it was like hell! Now I'm using Galaxy S6 and it's was better than the Z5P!
Better screen quality (SuperAMOLED QuadHD), better software experience, better camera, better loudspeakers!
If you can get S6 Edge it will be even better experience.
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Go for Galaxy S6 of course! I had Galaxy S6 Edge+ for few months then I switched to Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and it was like hell! Now I'm using Galaxy S6 and it's was better than the Z5P!
Better screen quality (SuperAMOLED QuadHD), better software experience, better camera, better loudspeakers!
If you can get S6 Edge it will be even better experience.
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I can get the S6 Edge for 30 more dollars. The S6 has the Samsung Game Tuner right ? And can the resolution be dropped to 1080 if needed for a game in the future ?
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I can get the S6 Edge for 30 more dollars. The S6 has the Samsung Game Tuner right ? And can the resolution be dropped to 1080 if needed for a game in the future ?
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In fact dropping resolution to 720p for games with Game Tuner app and browser to 1080p with it is optimum and reduces battery usage. But,
X Performance has sd820 and good battery life. Go for it without hesitation as with sd820, you're sure you'll be able to flash newer Android versions when official support is over unlike s6 which has only touchwiz derived roms. S6 never lags and so on, but so is the X Performance with newer cpu. And S6 battery is not enough if you want to game. It's mediocre
I like my s6, but c'mon for $40 more, you get sd820 and the beast Adreno 530!
And the S6 Edge is a scam as the edge is useless and expensive to repair. Should be like only $10 more. And Quad HD screen is useless. Only the camera of the S6 is a great deal!
S6 all the way
I think hardware wise the s6 edges it some aspects. The s6 has a better screen, design, speaker, camera. The sd820 cpu wise has a ln edge over the exynos 7420 but not by a big margin, the adreno gpu is very side and has an advantage over the Mali. Where the Sony probably has another advantage is probably battery life and custom rom access as sd is easier to develop for than exynos. Overall feature wise the s6 does have a few more than the Sony but if you want better battery life, the Sony is your best bet. It all depends on what your preference is and what you value in a device
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I think hardware wise the s6 edges it some aspects. The s6 has a better screen, design, speaker, camera. The sd820 cpu wise has a ln edge over the exynos 7420 but not by a big margin, the adreno gpu is very side and has an advantage over the Mali. Where the Sony probably has another advantage is probably battery life and custom rom access as sd is easier to develop for than exynos. Overall feature wise the s6 does have a few more than the Sony but if you want better battery life, the Sony is your best bet. It all depends on what your preference is and what you value in a device
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I want the phone to have a great display,speaker,headphone output,ok performance because the most demanding games i will play are Asphalt and Fifa mobile. I know that i won't use the power of the SD 820 to its max potential because as i mention i don't play the most demanding games , but a small part of me always says go for the specs even tough i like the GS6 more than the Sony.
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I want the phone to have a great display,speaker,headphone output,ok performance because the most demanding games i will play are Asphalt and Fifa mobile. I know that i won't use the power of the SD 820 to its max potential because as i mention i don't play the most demanding games , but a small part of me always says go for the specs even tough i like the GS6 more than the Sony.
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Tbf I've played some graphically intensive games on the s6 pretty well, the gpu is still a pretty good one, a lot of ports have played great. There's a munches odyssey game not a port on playstore which is very gpu intensive and I got decent framerates. I think if anything maybe battery life could be better on the s6, I mean for me I still manage to get a days use out of it depending on what I'm doing.
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Tbf I've played some graphically intensive games on the s6 pretty well, the gpu is still a pretty good one, a lot of ports have played great. There's a munches odyssey game not a port on playstore which is very gpu intensive and I got decent framerates. I think if anything maybe battery life could be better on the s6, I mean for me I still manage to get a days use out of it depending on what I'm doing.
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Nice ! Battery isn't that much of a concern because i carry a 2700 mAh portable battery with me. I know its an older device but will support continue for it to at least get 7.0 .?
Oneplus 3T
Tarbruh said:
Nice ! Battery isn't that much of a concern because i carry a 2700 mAh portable battery with me. I know its an older device but will support continue for it to at least get 7.0 .?
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The nougat update for the s6 is due in the next couple of weeks. The nougat manual for the s6 and s6 edge has been released so the actual update shouldn't be too far away
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The OP3T is 20 dollars away from the GS7 for me so thats a nope.
A disapointment for Me in S6 is touchscreen. Sometimes it is not working as it should (not registering touch) and using it outside in winter is useless. I don't know it is just My device or it is My cold fingers, but this issue is a big one. A lot of people on web have reported this and now I'm testing *#2663# "fix", will see how it will end for Me. If I would have know this I would bought X Compact for the same price. (There was bargain deal on My operator, S6 will cost Me 240eur, X Compact would be around 250eur if I remember correctly)
Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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I don't know about google pixel ,but the camera of xz i notice by myself is superior by the others. Lg g6 have worst camera than g5, in more moments is worst than midrange. But on wide angle cameras panoramas is good. Of course on wideangle distortion can became in some situation very visible (the distortion on sonyies are for wideangle lens but there are not that visible). But xz destroys g6 on camera...day and night photos. Galaxy s7 produces false photos. The photos on his amoled screen seems great but on reality have more defect. Too filters applied. Yellow and reddish photos .. For example a summer photo of a lake , became autumn photo of lake,thanks to samsung filters. On night photos is easy to shoot with this device but with some burned dettails. Xz on day destroys s7, on night depends . Xz produces more dettailed photos than s7. But s7 have ois and some photos on night are easier to shoot. One plus 3t have a mid range camera ....is a phone studied for modding expecially. Talking about xz i think is the most stable phone in my opinion ...probably op3t is on similar level. I reccomand xz expecially for stability and less problems. I have some friends with s7 and g6 and they have a lot of problems . For alternative to xz i reccomand op3t if you find one. Is the one with less problems like xz. Xz use great the snapdragon 820. 821 is the same processor with only better energy use. But sony,thanks to his great optimizzation, make tha 820 less battery drainer, like 821. Every month Sony release security patches there, before of most OEM. Device have very good performance and very good battery. Signal is great there, one of better phones to have best signal (i think better than your alternatieves). Modding is good there but not one of best(but it seems grow). Ram seems doesn't have any problems .Phone is rock stable and very fluid . Sony optimizzation is the best in my opinion. It doesn't have raw ...but post processing is very natural. Raw seems enable only on aosp roms. If you doesn't worry about modding, give a look on xzs. More ram,loops ui, xzp and xz1 camera with all great new features. But no modding. If you want, give me all questions about xz. I'm very happy with my xz.
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Also consider screen size.. the XZ is rather small compare to G6, OP3t.
Then it's also Amoled vs LCD but maybe more personal?
The only thing I'm not really happy with mine is battery life, was used to more for a Sony phone, you have to tinker around to get something acceptable. Also would have prefer an Amoled screen since I read a lot so once again better for battery
Personally I would pass on the G6, XDA thread seems empty and LG support bad..
Pixel camera would be the best I guess, but you loose waterproofing.
Then it's Sony over Samsung for me for the "media" experience, sound, ldac bT etc
Also camera is actually really good. Auto is OK+ but manual gives really good shot when you know what you do.
Sony need manual settings to take good pic in low light. XZ have the best display in the market now. Super bright red and clear white. Other colors are naturals and clear. Its no juicy like Amoled or washed like other TFTs. I had G5 with screen burn problem. It have too many phones G5 and V10 with this problem. I dont know for G6 but look at it. Pixel have no IP 68 and its no interesting for me.
One Plus - no thanks. So so tricky warranty service.
S7 is stupid. I feel it in hand like a soap. And Samy dont cover under warranty water damages. I have frend in official Samy service here in Bulgaria and he told me that IP 68 nevermind. Its nothing for Samy. Just commercials.
For me thats a 100% not recommended, looking at the alternatives you posted above; go for the pixel without hesitation. I've used both, the XZ is inferior in almost every aspect except for waterproofing.
Dont get me started on overheating and battery issues, i just came back from a hot area where the phone was almost unusable just because i was standing in the sun for a little bit; once the phone temperature hits 42, forget about being productive anymore, for me this disadvantage is bigger than all the advantages above (even if it had the best camera, screen, speakers etc...) since i cant actually use the phone.
Just get the forest blue XZ, and forget the others.
I running stock on mine, unmodified, September security patch and battery life is very excellent, no overheating.
And I have to agree Sony optimisation is exceptional, I run my phone once for 20 straight days without reboot or slow down, the phone was still smooth.
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Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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IF you're not chasing for glamour and high end phones these days..e.g. pixel phones, Lg g6, etc.. then XZ still worth to buy. ...Otherwise if you're looking forward for OnePlus, i suggest go for OP 5 instead of OP 3T. Imho
*OnePlus, Pixel phones=Dev enthusiasts+Custom ROMs friendly