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So I just got back from our local mall and took a test drive of the New Z5 Premium. I'm stoked. From the fingerprint unlock to the Camera Test, amazing. Its fast too. I was trying to stress the device by multitasking really fast, flawless. I'm now having a dilemma if I'll sell my S6 and go Z5P. Oooorrrr, wait for Marshmallow then decide whether to throw in the towel. No bashing please. Thanks!
I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
I think maybe wait till marshmallow drops. Many beta users have reported that the fingerprint sensor speed and recognition has improved in the marshmallow update.
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I have S6 and am having trouble with my cell reception. Keep losing network pretty randomly now in dodgy network areas where my sony Z3 holds on pretty well! Ive used my friend's Z5P and it is a good phone with solid network and better battery. But I think camera and screen are debatable between S6 and Z5P. I'm also looking to replace my S6 due to the network issue and sony Z5/Z5P are my top choices at present. But I might wait for S7 for a couple of months.
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I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
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I didn't had the chance to compare the ZP5's camera with my S6. But from what I can say is when I took a little bit of mixed shots and the zoomed it, there are minimal noise. It feels detailed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64808179&postcount=1013
I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
I would give MM a chance on the S6
Like M...N said there are reports of more effective and usable fingerprint sensor support.
- Renolz
I actually sold my 8months old S6 (64gb) and got myself a new Xperia Z5 (dual) black. As stated earlier my S6 had a lot of network connectivity issues which got worse with time, got repaired but to no use. I was bit unsure about how good the camera would be on Z5 as there are mixed reviews.
My quick review of Z5 compared to S6 (after 2 days use):
- Better battery backup: my Z5 is at 67% after a full days use (charged fully at 10 am), while my S6 used to be at 4-5% by this time and had to charge it at least once daily (sometimes twice daily). 3g data on all the time with some voice calls, chrome browsing, whatsapp etc. Only using one sim in Z5.
- Camera: IMO the daylight pics on Z5 (23mp manual mode) are better overall than S6 (sony sensor). The pics are sharper overall with vibrant colors but slightly noisier compared to softer (less noisier) dull looking pics on the S6. The night pics are comparable on both but S6 auto mode does way better job than sony's. You actually need to know the manual mode on the Xperia very well as to get good results in poor light (which are comparable to or sometimes even better than S6). Also the camera app is faster and easier to use on the S6 compared to Z5. But, to me (a long time sony user) its a non issue. Mind it there are faulty units with lots of lens blurring and all (as apparent from reviews online) with Z5 in particular, so you need to keep that in mind. Mine doesn't have any such issue.
- Screen and touch response: Samoled vs Ips lcd. Both have their pros and cons. I like the touch response on the Z5 better though. Auto brightness works better on Z5.
- Network connectivity: Much better on the Z5 IMO.
- UI: Z5 has cleaner UI which is seamless. Samsung UI felt a bit laggy at times but both phones are pretty snappy.
P.S - I'm really happy with my purchase overall! Sony's camera app needs work for sure, which I'm confident will be done in coming updates. Samsung needs to improve upon its battery backup and UI IMO.
As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
If you need people to convince you to stay with galaxy s6, you've already made up your mind. Go with Z5, because you're always going to find a flaw with galaxy series.
Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
In reality, it is impossible to run the 28nm octa-core SD810 Z5 with a full day usage and still got 67% battery left. I think it will need a Z3c with KitKat rom to do that.
If you just trying to get best SOT out with super light use and tune the screen to real dark, it is achievable though. Indeed, I'm a S6 light user mostly and my S6 always got 6~7hrs SOT as well. Such a campaign doesn't reflect real world performance for most people. There are many complaints from medium to heavy users from Z5/Z5c/Z5p on XDA and talk sonymobile forum about battery life.
I always prefer color reproduction from Sony. S6 used a heavy noise reduction and a bit dull but there are just too much noises on Sony. Speaking to the details, both of my IMX240 and ISOCell performs better than my Z5c day and night. It is strange that your S6 IMX240 photo not as sharp as Z5, in my experiences the IMX240 is just too sharp and I even want it to be lower. Me any my friend got a Z5c, mine is absolutely perfect without blur while my friend one got slightly blur so clearly no problem on my camera.
Both got pros and cons on auto brightness and touch responsive. Z5 auto brightness is too bright while S6 is a bit dark but overall I prefer S6. S6 got faster touch responsive while power saving disabled and some lag when power saving on. Z5 is more consistency on this part with or without Stamina on.
Actually, S6 got way more custom roms and kernels but sure no AOSP/CM. S6 got knox trip but Sony also has DRM key and TA partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/samsung-galaxy-s-6--s-6-edge-unified-development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s6-t3269984
EDIT: I just found that CM13 is available now on S6
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As this question is in your mind, I'm pretty sure you'll not be satisfied with the S6 again! Why wait? Sell it and get yourself a new Z5, but make sure you'll accept its minor deficiencies.
No offence, but if you're not satisfied with your phone, get another which will make you happier
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the most accurate reply for this question :good:
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Z5 pros: Custom roms, better battery life, better camera, micro SD slot, better sound quality, more open for devs (unlocking/relocking bootloader, releasing source codes etc.)
S6 cons: no stable custom roms due to Exynos + Knox tripping = no guarantee outside EU and quite bad battery life compared to G4/Z5 or any other comparable high-end phone released in 2015.
The s6 is only acceptable because of its design, no other stuff makes this phone worth it. An iPhone would probably even be a better choice than the S6. But if you especially dont care about custom roms and just look at hardware specs than just go with that Z5 premium or wait for the Galaxy S7.
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the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
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the camera on the S6 is better.....better screen, design....and TW is miles ahead and better than sony's UI...it looks outdated....so you're wrong....the only reason to get the Z5 over the s6 are water proofing, and battery, some people would like an sd card also.....but still the S6 is better...can't deny that....and an iphone 6 is better? give me one thing the iphone does better....
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How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Regarding iPhone 6s:
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/681054354153971712
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/680299853801365504
https://mobile.twitter.com/arter97_dev/status/641752688728764416
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
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How are these statements you are giving supposed to be contra-arguments when I havent mentioned anything about it. I did say that the S6 design is better. Also I havent mentioned anything about stock roms, I was referring to custom roms, i.e. Cynogenmod, slimroms etc. Also screen is debatable, the Z5 premium has a 4k screen with alot more ppi and sharpness,while the s6 qhd could be more colorful.
Here we can see that the iPhone 6s A9 chip beats the Exynos 7420 in single core performance, which is most noticeable in real world comparison. Also iOS will always will be more in harmony with its own device than android and X brand phone. Ofcourse I wouldnt pick an iPhone because I like using cynogenmod etc. myself, therefore the z5 premium is a better choice than the galaxy s6. But id choose an iPhone above an exynos device any day..
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first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
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first of all, in your comment you said iphone 6 and not 6s...second...CPU isn't everything, screen, camera, battery....so even if the 6s is a bit faster it falls in all other aspects.....
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check http://www.anandtech.com/show/9686/the-apple-iphone-6s-and-iphone-6s-plus-review/8
According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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I didnt mention the iPhone 6, you should know this since you quoted me. Anyway doesnt matter. Battery wise the iPhone is quite good compared to android phones, because iOS is harmonized to the hardware used (something android lacks). Check According to this test it beats the s6 battery usage, but not charging time.
Also a reason why the lower MaH battery lasts longer is because it isn't packed with an unecessary qhd screen (nowdays gimmicks sell better than innovation). Retina, 4k etc screens are good enough and yes you see a difference if you put it next to the s6, but in real world you dont compare screens all day.
And camera wise id pick the s6.
All with all, I am not here to promote the iPhone, but I just want to make a statement how bad the exynos s6 device is compared to other (android) phones. The only things that matter nowday are battery life, performance, camera,functionality (this aspect is taken less in consideration by non xda users ) and design. All screens on high end phones look quite good.
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it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
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it's a bit confusing, you saying that the S6 with exynos is bad compared to other androids!...and you're wrong, it's the best cpu for androids, and in multi core it's the best in the world...my s6 is 9 months old and it doesn't lag....so if you're getting lag then it's either you have a defect phone or i don't know....the S6 fly through anything i do....and it and the NOTE 5 are the fastest android devices.....the ram management is bad but the speed is just great...it's faster than the nexus 6p....just so you know....
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No I yet again need to say this but I didnt mention lag. And yes the exynos chip is the best for android, but the sacrifice you need to make (no stable custom roms) is quite high. Anyway enjoy your phone, take care.
I sold a Z5 to come back to this phone. The premium is simply an oversized and ugly version of the Z5.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Real world use, the Z5 camera is absolutely awful, daylight and low light is blown away by S6, it distorts pictures, and has no stabilisation in low light so motion blur even when you keep very still. Battery life is awful (4hrs SOT), the screen is not sharp enough, the phone is laggy, runs very very hot, and is NOT water resistant, speakers get wrecked after any contact with water, permanently.
The only good thing on the Z5 is the fingerprint sensor.
Aside from some very small skips (not lag) in settings menu, the S6 runs smooth and fast and battery life is 5hours SOT, camera is unbeatable. Very glad I got an S6 again.
On a side note, I have an Iphone 6 for work, unfortunately, and its far from lag free and smooth. It is buggy and battery life is mediocre at best although it does charge fast. Camera is useless.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64808179&postcount=1013
I got both S6 and Z5c(the cam on Z5/Z5c/Z5P is same). The only good from Z5 camera is more accurate WB and auto exposure. The Z5 focus much improved over Z1~Z3 but I'll call it still slightly worse than IP5s, not as good as advertised while S6 focus is decent to the level near my friend's IP6(I've friends who own IP5s and IP6). The S6 OIS is unbeatable, I could take 100/200iso at low-light/indoor easy but on Z5 I've to pick 400iso to reduce handshake.
Z5 got good software video stabilization but it hurts so much the FOV and degraded the video quality. With software video stabilization enabled you hardly record a long video bcoz it will push the cpu to limit and overheat easy. S6 video stabilization may not as well as Sony but you can record video in long length with full FOV, the FHD/4K quality on S6 is also much better.
Battery on SD810 is quite power draining no doubt worse than Exynos 7420. Mine Z5c got best battery life in entire Z5 line but it looks like no better than S6 in my experiences, might be a bit better but not very noticeable. If you think S6 is power hungry, the fact is Z5P will just more worse. One reason is Z5P screen is dark, max brightness is like half of Z5/Z5c/S6 so you always need to tune up a bit the brightness and wasted extra power. The 4K panel isn't mature yet.
The fingerprint sensor faster than S6 but once the power button gets dirty the recognition speed become slower than S6. So, the S6 isn't fastest but more stable overall.
All and All. It's hard to make a conclusion bcoz all I can feel is the current Sony build are still beta, gonna wait 6.0 to release the camera power on Z5. Expected major upgrade of camera API and improved battery when 6.0 hits Z5. I'll say wait 6.0 to arrive on S6 and Z5P and check the result clearly. If you have free time, waiting for S7 is a even better choice.
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The question I have for you is, none of my third party apps can auto focus the s6 rear camera. Only the official camera app and HwTest app can. Do you have any experience with this?
I have the OP6 since 2 days, and I also still have my S8+ here which I'm about to sell.
In terms of speed this is hands down the fastest smartphone I have ever used. I was always happy about my S8+ but after using it again after being 2 days on the OP6 the S8+ literally feels slow and laggy. OxygenOS combined with the SD845 and 8GB of ram is really pushing the speed of android to the moon, it's simply amazing. Multitasking, heavy apps like games etc, you can't drain the power and speed of this phone, it stays so snappy, wow.
Build quality ? First impression in my early days of ownership is very good. Slick and solid design, I don't mind the notch personally, this is going to be the trend of smartphones in 2018 and maybe onwards I guess, until they find a solution for the FF camera. I'm also not too bothered with the back camera's bulging out as I'm using the nylon bumpercase. Let's see how it holds up after a few months of using.
The screen is good for a 1080p Amoled, although I do think the S8/S9 (even on 1080p mode) still are looking sharper. But you need to put them next to each other and really look close for that. It's not a dealbreaker but not gonna lie, I guess those 150'ish higher ppi density on the Samsung displays are noticeable, even on 1080p. Then again Samsung has the best screens in the smartphone game right now.
Wireless charging ? Never used it on my S8+, so I personally don't care, especially with the dash charging on the OP6 being this fast.
The camera is good, not S9+/Google Pixel 2 XL good, but good. I would say similar quality to the S8+ pictures (although the colours are a bit different and this will be subjective whichever you prefer. I personally do like the software of the picture processing of the S8) but the FF camera on the OP6 is better. More detail and better in low light. The cons on the camera right now are mainly software things which I hope they will fix in the next OxygenOS software update. Taking a snap goes slower than on my S8+ for example, and the autofocus problem is present most of the times especially if you try to take a picture up close of something.
The speaker is actually alright I think in terms of volume. However the placement is kind of bad as you can accidentally cover it up with your hand.
Vibrations could have been a bit better too, but it's not as bad as I thought having gone off from the first few reviews.
IP67/68 rating would actually have been nice if they finally added this too, but for me not a reason to not buy this phone. It will handle a casual splash of water or accidental drop in the bath tub if you get it out right after. And even with my S8+ when I was on vacation with my girlfriend last time I still used one of those pockets you can put your phone in to film while being in the pool. Better safe than sorry and works perfectly fine.
For this money, this is indeed the best package you could possibly get if you're looking for something which is 90% a flagship phone for 70% of the price of one.
I sold my 7 months old Galaxy s8 plus for Oneplus 6 and no regrets
Ordered my 8/128 and looking to sell my S8+. Samsung phones are nice, but too locked down for me and too much crap on them. I love the speed and simplicity of the OP6. It's funny cus I'm usually the "bells & whistels" kinda guy. Give me everything...which is why i've had Samsung phones for quite some time. Always good "features" thrown in. But after a while they just become "gimmicky" and not that practical.
I really wanted a simple "minimalistic" phone experience as close to Stock Android as possible (without the hefty price tag of the Pixel 2XL). This is a perfect phone for me. A few gripes here and there, but nothing that can't be addressed in software updates in the future.
Same here, sold my S8+ still under warranty for op6. No regrets. Just to be fair, I would say though S8+ does have better finish and sharper screen. But no match for OP6 when it comes down to the speed and no bloatware. I am satisfied with OP6 purchase
I switched from the S8+ to the OP6 as well and I actually feel the screen on my OP6 looks sharper than the one on my S8+. The white is also more white instead of that greenish hue on the S8+ and it's also a tad brighter. The OP6 is definitely faster and the build quality is just as good. I don't have any issues with the vibration motor as it's kind of low but not annoyingly low just like the speaker. I'll be selling the S8+ soon as well as I'm glad I'm able to unlock the bootloader and root once again. The only thing I hate is they could have found a way to get rid of the bottom chin and maybe put in a larger battery.
I sold my 11 month old S8 to get the OP6. The only thing I miss from the S8 is Samsung Pay and the sharper QHD display.
I sold my 7 month old s8+ for a one plus 6. Much happier!
I sold my S8+ too for the OP6. Software for the camera is my biggest gripe!
Anyone notice the Bluetooth's 100% louder on the OP6?
on 5t strong vibration was unable to understand..if i sit and keep the phone besides i sometimes missed many calls...but Samsung's vibration motor is very good...i thought they would improve in 6 ,did they?
Not really. Vibrations on my S8+ still better than on my OP6.
I have actually been thinking about replacing the S8+ with the OP6, what is the battery life in comparison? is the OP6 any better?
Switched from my Note 8 (Exynos) to the OnePlus 6 256GB variant. I really love my Note 8, but it never felt like it was really built for me. The camera is excellent, the pen was barely used but useful sometimes. The screen is perfect, the speaker normal and overall it should have been a perfect phone... for another person. You know... you hold your phone and know: This feels right? Never thought, it could be the OP6, because I simply was bored and ordered it.
I missed flashing. I missed some flaws to fix by myself. I miss LineageOS so much, I can't even tell. Never had a phone, that lasted on stock as long as my Note 8. Simply, because Samsung locks down everything and annoys every AOSP-dev that much, so development is rather stuck than alive. I also miss kernels and playing around to tweak the phone to my needs.
The OP6 is far from perfect, but will give some peace to my addiction. Also, it really feels good in my hands. Fingerprint is usable again (bad placement on the Note 8), unlocking via my face is blazing fast, the camera isn't that far away from the Note 8 (I know, it sounds crazy, but I don't see that much differences anymore), OxygenOS is blazing fast, vibration is decent and don't feel rugged. Overall I can say, that I never should have bought a Note 8. For me and even if I tried to hate OnePlus for several things in the past... The package I got is more than alright.
@MajorCombover: Don't have my device that long to do a perfect comparison, but compared to my Note 8: Yes, it's like day and night. OP6 wins without any doubts.
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I have actually been thinking about replacing the S8+ with the OP6, what is the battery life in comparison? is the OP6 any better?
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For me battery life is pretty comparable (that is: comparing S8+ with Renovate Ice ROM and TGP Kernel, so an optimized setup) with stock OOS (only Magisk added) on the OP6. It seems that the S8+ has slightly better standby drain (~1.2%/h vs ~1.9%/h on the OP6) whereas the OP6 has slightly better (lower) drain during usage of the phone.
I put high hopes in this fine community to come up with great custom kernels, at least those helped a lot on my previous OP devices.
I sold my s8 after using whole 1 year n 12 days.. n yeah i got this beast so happy with op6...
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I have actually been thinking about replacing the S8+ with the OP6, what is the battery life in comparison? is the OP6 any better?
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My OP6 has better battery life than my S8+ Exynos (stock samsung Oreo firmware).
With the same usage pattern, same apps etc.
S8+ SOT: 4 to 5h
OP6 SOT: 6 to 7h
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Not really. Vibrations on my S8+ still better than on my OP6.
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I would say the opposite for me
wtr_dhd said:
My OP6 has better battery life than my S8+ Exynos (stock samsung Oreo firmware).
With the same usage pattern, same apps etc.
S8+ SOT: 4 to 5h
OP6 SOT: 6 to 7h
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and total overnight drain?
Muntasir Mahmud Saif said:
and total overnight drain?
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Can't tell so far. I've the habit to leave my phone in the charger overnight.
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Can't tell so far. I've the habit to leave my phone in the charger overnight.
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but when u keep the phone untouched how much it drains? can u tell me please?
Muntasir Mahmud Saif said:
but when u keep the phone untouched how much it drains? can u tell me please?
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Standby drain is good on the OP6. Better than my S8+, but that might be because I used AOD.
Battery life overall is just amazing on the OP6 considering it's "only" 3300mah.
Hi, I'm currently using a S8 plus. I'm thinking off upgrading to the S10e. Has anyone who currently owns this device confirm if the S10e is a good upgrade from the S8 plus? Is battery much better? Is camera significantly better etc etc?
Any help and feedback is appreciated.
Thanks
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Hi, I'm currently using a S8 plus. I'm thinking off upgrading to the S10e. Has anyone who currently owns this device confirm if the S10e is a good upgrade from the S8 plus? Is battery much better? Is camera significantly better etc etc?
Any help and feedback is appreciated.
Thanks
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Did exactly that while also having the S9 for a week. S8->S9 is a slight upgrade. Camera is a bit better, speakers and stereo-sound is a nice upgrade and it is slightly snappier. The One UI 2 Upgrade also brings much better RAM Management and Apps in the background close less often and the new Fingerprint location is easier to reach. Battery seemed slightly better but the S8 was also older and so might not have had its full capacity in comparison.
S8/S9->S10e is a much bigger upgrade. Camera is leagues ahead and the extra wide angle gives you so much more room to play with. Snappiness again increased and you absolutely feel the 2GB more RAM throughout the day (No closed Apps in the background). Battery seems the same in my use case to the S9. The speakers feels to be a downgrade from the S9 tho as they start crackling when on (near) full volume while the S9 speaker seemed better tuned. The new fingerprint sensor in the power button is also nice to have as i often want to take a glance while the phone is lying on the table. Missed the function to unlock without having to pick the phone up since i left my S7 behind.
All in all the S10e is a distinct upgrade over the S8. If anyone reading this got an S9, then its mostly the camera and maybe the extra RAM depending on your use case. It won't feel as a big upgrade if your already running One UI 2 and don't have Apps closing on you or want the latest camera tech.
With GCAM (look for Zexynos) the S8 and S9 look the same btw and easily crush the S10(e) in many cases.
All the above is for the Exynos variants. With Snapdragon speed increases could be bigger but battery differences could be lower.
Sorry but my opinion after upgrading from an S8 to S10 is don't do it.
I have found the camera on the 10e to be worse in every way from the S8.
My wife usually takes my old phone each time i upgrade but she has already told me she does not want this one when i change and i may decide to get rid of it early even though i only got it in September 19.
In daylight, the camera is fine but as soon as you move in doors to artificial or low light, it is woeful.
If you zoom in the pictures are full of noise and they look fake, i have pictures where skin has large chunks looking waxy or plastic, way too over processed.
If you look at Samsungs own forum for S10/S10E you will find loads of posts all around the same issues.
What makes it more annoying is the adverts and initial reviews stated the camera was professional quality yet a recent write up i seen about the soon to be released S11 was that it aimed to improve on the S10 camera which was inferior to the Pixel 3.
Other features of phone are decent but the S8 is also a very capable phone.
My own intention for the future is to move away from Samsung despite being with them since the S2 as it is the first time i have felt the new phone is inferior to the previous one.
Good luck with whatever you decide to go with.
Thanks for the replies. In all honesty I'd prefer to get the S10+ but it seems to be quite expensive still. I was thinking towards the S10e instead since it's cheaper but might hold out for something else.
I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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Battery life could be better, but if your UI is slow and stuttery it usually means some background task is running at high priority constantly. That would also explain your terrible battery life.
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Battery life could be better, but if your UI is slow and stuttery it usually means some background task is running at high priority constantly. That would also explain your terrible battery life.
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Oh trust me, I checked all of that, and set practically everything to not run in the background.
I've also had the S21U before and didn't have that issue (despite not even bothering to change the background allowances).
Something else that's really strange to me;
I bought a Tab S8 too. Same processor, same RAM as the Ultra, and I've had no issues with the UI. It's great. Completely fluid and smooth.
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I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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Battery life is nothing to write home about...but for my uses it lasts me a the whole day not a problem...but not much more than that. As for the slowness, jerkiness and stuttering, I do not experience that and I have mine set to wqhd+ mode. Performance is one thing I have been very happy with (I have the 12GB/512GB version).
I think it's a masterful device. No issues at all on my end.
What an odd question? If it were a bad phone, how come you bought it?
Call the S22 Ultra bad, disappointing or whatever adjectives fit. Bottom line it has more reported defects than any Samsung device in many years. If you're happy good for you but as we can see many users aren't thrilled with the performance of this very expensive device. It is what it is.
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Call the S22 Ultra bad, disappointing or whatever adjectives fit. Bottom line it has more reported defects than any Samsung device in many years. If you're happy good for you but as we can see many users aren't thrilled with the performance this very expensive device. It is what it is.
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While I tend to agree, do you have any sources for that tidbit? So I can use it in the future
S21 Ultra has come a long way in terms of updates/bug fixes and I strongly feel S22 Ultra needs major updates to be on par with S21 Ultra as far as as UI/smoothness is concerned.
Unless both S21U and S22U are used side by side(with latest firmwares installed), probably one will not be able to feel the difference and might end up saying "no UI/lag issues with S22 Ultra".
As for batterylife, I did several tests using same mobile operators, on same location, over same Wi-Fi network - on similar settings+usage pattern(mostly) and the batterylife of S22 Ultra(Snapdragon) turned out to be way less than S21 Ultra(Exynos). Going further, I did factory reset both, waited for over a week to settle down and ended up having the same experience.
The overall experience with 22U isn't the best yet considering its potential and I hope to see a lot of these issues getting fixed through future updates.
I have had no issues with lag or stutter. I suspect that you may have a defective device perhaps?
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S21 Ultra has come a long way in terms of updates/bug fixes and I strongly feel S22 Ultra needs major updates to be on par with S21 Ultra as far as as UI/smoothness is concerned.
Unless both S21U and S22U are used side by side(with latest firmwares installed), probably one will not be able to feel the difference and might end up saying "no UI/lag issues with S22 Ultra".
As for batterylife, I did several tests using same mobile operators, on same location, over same Wi-Fi network - on similar settings+usage pattern(mostly) and the batterylife of S22 Ultra(Snapdragon) turned out to be way less than S21 Ultra(Exynos). Going further, I did factory reset both, waited for over a week to settle down and ended up having the same experience.
The overall experience with 22U isn't the best yet considering its potential and I hope to see a lot of these issues getting fixed through future updates.
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The s21u (Exynos) wasn't great when I first got it after release. It really improved with the big update it got last August which was supposed to be OneUI 3.1 but wasn't actually called that. I'm hoping the S22u gets a similar update this year. The April update improved the S22u (Exynos) for me but I think it still has a way to go before is can really be called "flagship".
S22 Ultra EXYNOS 512/12GB is the worst Samsung's flagship what I owned and I almost had all of them from S series before.
So poor UI and lagging performance I really starting to hate it. Battery performance I have to charge twice during working day! I'm not a mobile gamer at all. Hopefully Samsung will finally fix it with May update as already delayed as too many problems overall with crappy Exynos this year. On top of it 45W charging it is a joke
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..... On top of it 45W charging it is a joke
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100% agreed.
For better experience i suggest change animation length from x1 for 0,5 in developer option. I do it in every samsung device and i feel a lot of better running UI than before.
But i agree with above users that S22U still need updates for better running.
Comparing side by side my Fold 2 (yes android 11 is the best opton for fold, most stable and fast) to S22U.
Fold 2 with snapdragon 865+ is noticeably faster in opening for example default apps like phone dialer, messages, web browser etc and scrolling same webs fold 2 is smoother than S22U.
At this moment in my opinion S22U is only little better in day performance from Note 20U Exynos but skipping battery life which is a lot of better than Note.
But overall i like my S22U like previous Note series except Note 20 U
as _grizzly_ stated, ive not had animations turned on since they were first implemented back in gb days, not only does it save battery it makes the ui faster, we dont need it to look fancy switching between screens, we need it to do it quickly, that wont be a fix to all your issues but all journeys start with a single step
I'm fully updated. No issues at all. It does everything it's supposed to do. Battery life is sh1te though / no getting round that point! But it's really no worse than any other leading Samsung device I've had in the past few years. They all drop at about 10% per hour.
I have the absolutely worst version of the S22U I guess. 8/128gb, Exynos.
No issues whatsoever. Fast, smooth, good battery. No lag or crashes for the two weeks I've had it.
So FWIW I have no complaints.
Camera setup is mindblowingly good for a phone, quite frankly ridiculously good.
The only minor minus would be the lack of proper native 960fps slomo (very niche thing anyway) but that's about it. S22U does some AI interpolation stuff there, and that's okay with me I guess. I'd rather have a better overall sensor there than one tailored for Tiktokers.
I've upgraded from an 8GB/512GB Exynos Note9 to a Snapdragon 12GB/512GB S22Ultra (S9080) and I couldn't be happier. Battery life is quite frankly amazing. The UI is buttery smooth. I don't like the in-display fingerprint sensor as much as the rear one from the Note9 and the form factor is a fair bit bulkier, but on the whole I'm personally very happy. Maybe I've just been very lucky.
A good Android phone has fastboot mode...
Hi everyone, please I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, but most videos or youtubers talk about heating or overheating, advice before buying, exynos or snapdragon or which version, thank you in advance
I don't have any issues with overheating, never have.
Just look for your best deal between Samsung or your carrier with trade-ins.
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I don't have any issues with overheating, never have.
Just look for your best deal between Samsung or your carrier with trade-ins.
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thank you, look at the comments please
First week with this phone.
I don't have any kind of overheating.
On the other hand, battery is sort of dissapointing, it lasts the same as my older phones (mi 10, mi 9, honor 8, nexus 5). Around 6 hours of SOT give or take. And the charging is slower than mi 10/9.
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First week with this phone.
I don't have any kind of overheating.
On the other hand, battery is sort of dissapointing, it lasts the same as my older phones (mi 10, mi 9, honor 8, nexus 5). Around 6 hours of SOT give or take. And the charging is slower than mi 10/9.
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Does that mean other than that everything is fine? I hesitate between honor magic4 pro and realme gt 2 pro because I like samsung but I don't really know
whait for s23 ultra with sd 8 gen 2
Wait for the S23u with 8gen2, the 8gen1 and exy2200 are both inefficient.
I've got around 7 of these phones and out of them 3 had severe lag.
128gb seems to be the worst, higher memory seem to perform better.
Unless you are getting a bargain I'd wait for s23 ultra
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Hi everyone, please I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, but most videos or youtubers talk about heating or overheating, advice before buying, exynos or snapdragon or which version, thank you in advance
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Why? S23 is around the corner. From the leaks it will be much better in power efficiency, specially if you are in EU and stuck with the Exynos chip which i think sucks. I read Snapdragon takes better images and is more efficient (even if i read they get overheated also)....but much of that is fixed in the S23 that uses a updated gen2 chip.
S22U is a great phone but i'm dissapointed with battery and image quality still.
Compared to my iPhone images are a hit and miss. Sometimes they are awesome but sometimes they are grainy or colors are off or just blurry.
And as said battery drain is pretty bad. Like overnight dropping 7-8% compared to 2-3% on iphone.
Same when i use it, i can literally see the battery go down...
1. Notification bar is looking like it is a theme made 10 years ago.
2. Lagging and stutters is very possible, depends on unit to unit.
3. Phone does overheat if you planning to use an app that is a heavy resources consuption or badly optimized.
4. Samsung's devices are overfilled with bloat-ware.
5. Battery efficiency is pretty bad.
6. A lot of S22U were sent back for a replacement due to multiple hardware issues, for example mine is restarting by it self when a phone call starts (not every time) but at least few times a month.
7. Edges are not usefull at all but rather annoying.
8. Stylus has terrible grip, very uncountable to hold.
9. Speaker is terrible too, if you planning to listen to a music at full volume, stop.
10. It has very annoying notifications that are not important at all and unable to deactivate, for example (Messenger is using your mobile data).
11. Fingerprint scanner is ok but could be better, sometimes I have to touch it 3 - 5 times to get it registered (depends on angle).
I've been struggling with stutters, lags as well as audio stutters for several months until a big update came up. Scrolling through UI was extremly jerky.
Personally I would never buy a samsung's device ever again but that is just me and I understand other may be completely satisfied.
For older devices Samsung is releasing updates that are slowing the devices down so people have to buy newer products regularly. For me this is just unacceptable. This is a verified info that you can search for too.
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1. Notification bar is looking like it is a theme made 10 years ago.
2. Lagging and stutters is very possible, depends on unit to unit.
3. Phone does overheat if you planning to use an app that is a heavy resources consuption or badly optimized.
4. Samsung's devices are overfilled with bloat-ware.
5. Battery efficiency is pretty bad.
6. A lot of S22U were sent back for a replacement due to multiple hardware issues, for example mine is restarting by it self when a phone call starts (not every time) but at least few times a month.
7. Edges are not usefull at all but rather annoying.
8. Stylus has terrible grip, very uncountable to hold.
9. Speaker is terrible too, if you planning to listen to a music at full volume, stop.
10. It has very annoying notifications that are not important at all and unable to deactivate, for example (Messenger is using your mobile data).
11. Fingerprint scanner is ok but could be better, sometimes I have to touch it 3 - 5 times to get it registered (depends on angle).
I've been struggling with stutters, lags as well as audio stutters for several months until a big update came up. Scrolling through UI was extremly jerky.
Personally I would never buy a samsung's device ever again but that is just me and I understand other may be completely satisfied.
For older devices Samsung is releasing updates that are slowing the devices down so people have to buy newer products regularly. For me this is just unacceptable. This is a verified info that you can search for too.
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I think it's an SOC issue on the s22u both the 8gen1 and Exy2200 are fabbed by Samsung foundries and are poor(Samsung foundries 4nm node was awful with low yields). The zfold4 with TSMC 8+Gen1 is one of the smoothest and fastest phones I've used recently, even much better than the Pixel. I don't think the issue is OneUI. I expect the S23u with the TSMC 8gen2 will be blazing fast and buttery smooth.
Might not be relevant to you, but I by now *regrett* buying the Samsung S22 Ultra.
The reason being that (depending on where you buy your phone) the firmware for your region will disable a lot of features. E.g. for me it is impossible to somehow activate the eSIM support.
And I really tried all the tweaks that are out there.
But you only notice these things after you've purchased the phone, because nothing about this is written in the manuals.
So my advice: Stay away from Samung phones.
Honestly, the s22 Ultra was a trash offering, regardless of the chipset, of course Exynos is worse. I'm trading it in for the s23 Ultra (I'm stuck with Samsung due to the purchase of a Samsung watch) and hopefully it won't be disappointing this time around. But to what I said earlier do be careful of what wearables you buy and from what brand, Samsung has great wearables, but half the features and functions usually get limited to their phones/devices. Unfortunately I didn't realise this when I bought my Galaxy Watch 4, and so now I'm stuck for at least a few years till I swap out the wearable and then the phone brand itself, probably back to Xiaomi.
I have the S22 Ultra snapdragon, great phone but some minor annoyances
. Battery it's not poor but could be better for 5000mah
. Speakers could be a bit louder
. And camera is rubbish at capturing moving subjects it always comes out blurry
I am in the same bought boat as you and bit the bullet and bought the s22 ultra 256GB. It's been 3 days since I bought it and honestly I am really satisfied. I had the z fold4 before but I found it impractical, the s22 ultra has almost the same level of performance with no noticeable downgrade. I have the snapdragon variant and it does not overheat. Battery life is OK, but it's too early to judge as it is still learning my usage patterns.
Overall I recommend buying the s22 ultra even though s23 ultra is right around the corner. Yes, it will have an effecient CPU, but I do not expect much from a single generation leap. A real upgrade would be s24 ultra as it is expected that the entire design will change
Don't plan on upgrading my S22U to the S23U. However if I were in the market for a new phone I'd wait another month and get the S23U. No brainer IMHO.
i agree with most of the reviews here. this device does not worth it.
can't believe it's actually rated as a Ultra/premium device
For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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Yes, year to year I read about unveiled best and a lot of better from year old flagship.
And after few months opinion/ reviews about disadvantages and even features which previous model had better. For example low durability frame S22 series, worse speaker quality compare to S20 series.
cfds said:
For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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Actually yeah, it will solve a lot, the performance will actually be worth the price tag itself, which as a heavy user I actually do need, it'll solve a lot of battery drain thanks to not being an absolute power munching ****show chipset like the current exynos, oh and I'll actually be able to get decent and stable fps with graphics maxed without the phone turning into an oven. Now lets not forget other things like photography and other stuff like that s22 ultra was a flop either way, but exynos took the cherry on the top.