i use the cpu-z it say i have snapdragon 865 but not show the +
can you help me?
bubu23 said:
i use the cpu-z it say i have snapdragon 865 but not show the +
can you help me?
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The 865 and 865+ are the same processor but the + is clocked 10% higher.
Mine too I wouldnt worry, its the Plus
shollywood said:
Mine too I wouldnt worry, its the Plus
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How do we KNOW it's the plus? I can't find any diagnostic app that says 865+
StormCell said:
How do we KNOW it's the plus? I can't find any diagnostic app that says 865+
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Install DevCheck by flar2 from the Play Store and look at the clock speed of the first core. If it's ~2.8GHz it's the 865, if it's ~3.1GHz it's the 865+
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Install DevCheck by flar2 from the Play Store and look at the clock speed of the first core. If it's ~2.8GHz it's the 865, if it's ~3.1GHz it's the 865+
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I can't find measurements for any cores.
On CoreX app Core 1 is maxed at 1.8ghz.
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I can't find measurements for any cores.
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its so funny no app say if we have snapdragon 865+ so how do we know maybe its ascam ?
and nobody here knows too wtf?
LOL, paranoia will destroy ya! How do we KNOW that the 865+ even exists? Apply the same logic here
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LOL, paranoia will destroy ya! How do we KNOW that the 865+ even exists? Apply the same logic here
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Well, I guess we could test the phone...which would provide empirical facts. I dunno....
To put the 865+ to bed ........? here it is definitely the 865+........?
False reports happen all the time and from the very beginning with these apps... just be glad it said Snapdragon.
Samsung may substitute smaller chipsets/components as needed but certainly not the processor as it's speced out specifically.
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After running a Quadrant Standard benchmark test, I looked at the "System Information" tab. Under the "CPU" heading it reads "Cores: 1." (See attached screenshot)
Is my phone firing on all cylinders or is it only using one core? Does a dual core chip only register one core at a time when it is not running a process that uses both of its cores? Are any of you noticing a similar thing?
FYI: I am rooted running the stock ROM. I'm getting awesome battery life and quadrant scores 2400-2600. It certainly "feels" dual core.
you are using 2.
Quadrant isnt setup for MultiCore phones yet.
Hence... we have a A9 cpu.... your screen shot shows a A7
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you are using 2.
Quadrant isnt setup for MultiCore phones yet.
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Does this mean the scores are not/less accurate comparisons?
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Does this mean the scores are not/less accurate comparisons?
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bingo! bingo!
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yep. AFAIK, we are getting very little out of the dual core nature right now. I haven't really seen anything indicating that it isn't used at all, but I'm not sure. It feels a hell of a lot faster than my Evo, but maybe the 1 core + GPU is just that much faster. My guess is the dual core is at least being used by seperate apps, or by system and app processes.
At any rate, as the OS and apps build in more support the phone should work even better.
Smartbench 2011 is the only bench app configured for Multi-Core's right now.
Hi, anyone can tell me if HDC S4 EXYNOS (Galaxy S4 Clone) is true. It is to sold in FastCardTech
Quad Core Exynos and 2 Gb. RAM,
Does it true?
Anybody have one of this ?
Some Forum write that is Fake, that is Dual Core with 512Mb, that is flashed for show wrong values.
maybe.
Qualcomm will never provide chips to little or unknown manufacture.
but Nvida will..
some people say samsung will provide chips for them. so i think maybe it's true.
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Hi, anyone can tell me if HDC S4 EXYNOS (Galaxy S4 Clone) is true. It is to sold in FastCardTech
Quad Core Exynos and 2 Gb. RAM,
Does it true?
Anybody have one of this ?
Some Forum write that is Fake, that is Dual Core with 512Mb, that is flashed for show wrong values.
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It is a fake. It has been shown a few times in the forums these device only have the hardware they say they do about 1% of the time and they all have modded apps to support the false readings.
Apparently this phone has a MTK quad core 1.2 with 1gb of ram.
Not sure why these people bother. Paypal will refund everyone who was mis sold. (Eventually!)
Haha I'd but such a phone for my self if it was sold for like 2$ just to showoff to my friends and prank them
zelendel said:
It is a fake. It has been shown a few times in the forums these device only have the hardware they say they do about 1% of the time and they all have modded apps to support the false readings.
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I do lo the idea of a fake fake. If you see what I mean. To be honest I've order one on the basis that 200 dollars is good value even for a 1.2 quad with 1gb of ram.
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I do lo the idea of a fake fake. If you see what I mean. To be honest I've order one on the basis that 200 dollars is good value even for a 1.2 quad with 1gb of ram.
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Oh I know what what you mean. With electronics just remember, you get what you pay for. The 1.2 quadcore with 1gb or ram could very well run like it has specs at half of that. Most of those devices tend to only have like 512mb of ram. This is one of the huge problems with devices out of China. Due to their lack of enforcing Copyright laws and false advertising laws they can say what ever they want really.
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Hi, anyone can tell me if HDC S4 EXYNOS (Galaxy S4 Clone) is true. It is to sold in FastCardTech
Quad Core Exynos and 2 Gb. RAM,
Does it true?
Anybody have one of this ?
Some Forum write that is Fake, that is Dual Core with 512Mb, that is flashed for show wrong values.
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i was buy some fake phone from that website
it a fake mobile, not exynos cpu , it only mtk cpu. and diffent software of s4 original
battery not longtime use. will lost all power in3hours on edge/3G.
if you need buy for fun it ok!
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Oh I know what what you mean. With electronics just remember, you get what you pay for. The 1.2 quadcore with 1gb or ram could very well run like it has specs at half of that. Most of those devices tend to only have like 512mb of ram. This is one of the huge problems with devices out of China. Due to their lack of enforcing Copyright laws and false advertising laws they can say what ever they want really.
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Agree with you but if you buy with a credit card and or PayPal, if they advertise a products Innacurately ten you have insurance against it.
In the uk anyway.
Guys be appropriate and post your benchmarks!!
I'll do mine when I get it!!!
Thanks
as I read on Android Authority, Samsung confirmed that new Exynos 5 Octa will be able to use all eight cores simultaneously after installation of a software patch...
let's wait what this will lead to :laugh:
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as I read on Android Authority, Samsung confirmed that new Exynos 5 Octa will be able to use all eight cores simultaneously after installation of a software patch...
let's wait what this will lead to :laugh:
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I don't think you will see much difference in benchmarks. Maybe bit better as the clocks are higher compared to 5410 1st-gen octa. But the biggest advantage should be batterylife. Now any task can run on any core and GTS can make use of any combination of cores to perform the task. This is lot better compared to cluster-migration technique. I am more interested in batterylife results.
You will still get more results than the SD800, but it comes with a killup of features.. as recording is not possible on exynos at 4K
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I don't think you will see much difference in benchmarks. Maybe bit better as the clocks are higher compared to 5410 1st-gen octa. But the biggest advantage should be batterylife. Now any task can run on any core and GTS can make use of any combination of cores to perform the task. This is lot better compared to cluster-migration technique. I am more interested in batterylife results.
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Even if the clocks are higher on the snapdragon processeor ,the octa have an a15 architecture which is faster than the snapdragon's krait 400.
My main concern is Exynos Octa core overheating & lags/freezes in it . Please do put a remark on the same, while posting Benchmarks for Octa Core .
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You will still get more results than the SD800, but it comes with a killup of features.. as recording is not possible on exynos at 4K
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i dont think 4k really matters to people. i'm pretty sure not many people own a 4k tv/monitor. and if they do they probably would want a real camera to record it with. with OIS.
The sweet thing about the Exynos 5420 is that it uses a Mali T628 MP6 instead of the PowerVR SGX544MP3 like the 5410 used. Also sound quality should be better on the Exynos variant because it should be using a wolfston DAC. Since the Exynos one does not have LTE I will be stuck with the Snapdragon variant.
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Exynos score on antutu
Passmark benchmark anyone?
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CLARiiON said:
I don't think you will see much difference in benchmarks. Maybe bit better as the clocks are higher compared to 5410 1st-gen octa. But the biggest advantage should be batterylife. Now any task can run on any core and GTS can make use of any combination of cores to perform the task. This is lot better compared to cluster-migration technique. I am more interested in batterylife results.
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Bad Exynos 5410 is caused by CCI. It will cause lag and bad battery life. It fixed in Exynos 5420. Good battery life and good performance.
I'm hand-on S800 and Exynos 5420 version and can't find out who better.
S800 is better in graphics? Nope. The same. In benchmark, 3DMark for example, high VGA memory is used to store texture. In S800, 512MB is configurated to VGA. And in Exynos 5420, it just 320MB. (Some ram is used in LTE/HSPA baseband, touchscreen,...). Result is S800 is better in offscreen benchmark due to a lot texture is stored in ram. But in on-screen or free ram, Exynos 5420 are much better. After 3 hours of use, ram used is bumped up to 2,2-2,3GB in Exynos 5420 but i can't see any lag because free ram is 400MB but in S800 (my friend), he feel some lag, free ram only 100-200MB. Clean up ram and it will be ok.
Battery in 2 version is the same. Difference not too much to notice.
But, note 3 is just a note. We use it because we can store and note everything, not simple to benchmark it.
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In benchmark, 3DMark for example, high VGA memory is used to store texture. In S800, 512MB is configurated to VGA. And in Exynos 5420, it just 320MB.
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Just to clear things up since you guys keep mentioning this: Video memory is not part of the reserved memory.
The increased memory buffers on the Snapdragon likely are going to the camera and other such things as 4K recording.
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Just to clear things up since you guys keep mentioning this: Video memory is not part of the reserved memory.
The increased memory buffers on the Snapdragon likely are going to the camera and other such things as 4K recording.
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Hii Andrei am waiting for your wonderful kernel hope u build one perseus like u built for note 2 and s4
bhasg1007 said:
Hii Andrei am waiting for your wonderful kernel hope u build one perseus like u built for note 2 and s4
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I don't have a Note 3 and I won't get one myself.
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I don't have a Note 3 and I won't get one myself.
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Sorry to bother, but is that a confirmation that you won't be able to support Note 3 like you did Note 2? I do understand the hardware is different this time round...
Thanks!
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Verizon LG G2 S800 Antutu score. I don't have my Note3 yet and I wanted to join in.
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Has anyone determined whether or not the S800 is a 8974 or 8974AB?
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Has anyone determined whether or not the S800 is a 8974 or 8974AB?
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This
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Sad News:
Sammy exec confirmed this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_and_note_3_wont_get_true_octacore_update-news-6908.php
No wonder that they released videos of hmp on 5420 instead of note 3.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbeb08W27U&feature=youtu.be&ism=SASep1513Facebook1
This is cheating but still that is not going to affect my descision to buy note3.
What do u guys think?
Yet people are still buying and will be buying samsung devices.
Oh noez, no 8 cores in your phone? How will we survive? Seriously, at some point cores will become ubiquitous, nobody will really care once the OS and software just uses available resources. We're getting closer, but I doubt your phone is doing anything that'd really require 8 cores to do.
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Oh noez, no 8 cores in your phone? How will we survive? Seriously, at some point cores will become ubiquitous, nobody will really care once the OS and software just uses available resources. We're getting closer, but I doubt your phone is doing anything that'd really require 8 cores to do.
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Well HMP/GTS is not jus running all 8 cores at a time its about firing up the required number of cores in any combination of a7's and a15's currently afaik it cluster migration ( the worst implimation of big.littile).
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Well HMP/GTS is not jus running all 8 cores at a time its about firing up the required number of cores in any combination of a7's and a15's currently afaik it cluster migration ( the worst implimation of big.littile).
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I think Note 3 is running core migration, which is much better than cluster migration.
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I think Note 3 is running core migration, which is much better than cluster migration.
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Wrong.Note 3 came with cluster migration.
The Note 3 is still running cluster migration and I'll doubt this will change anytime soon. Their drivers are still out of date for normal IKS so I won't even bother trying to get that running on a device I don't own. And frankly nobody else is interested in doing the work.
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Just wondering if the 855 plus is just a overclocked version of the standard 855 and if we can overclock the CPU and mainly GPU to match it?
Yeah, coz the standard 855 is not fast enough, right? Not worth the trouble IMO for a few percent extra speed...
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Just wondering if the 855 plus is just a overclocked version of the standard 855 and if we can overclock the CPU and mainly GPU to match it?
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Yes, from what I'm reading 855 and 855+ are the same except for CPU and GPU speeds.
You can use a custom kernel to overclock to the same speeds (if not better).
However, because this phone already runs everything perfectly it might not even be worth it considering unlocking bootloader, wiping data, increased battery drain from the boost, potential issues.
All of my games run at the framerate cap on stock anyway.
Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.
Lol, it's still faster than a speeding bullet!
In my opinion, 6GB of Ram + Snapdragon 835 is still handle everything very good (at least for next 1-2 year)! So 855+ is a P.R trick and quite a waste!
By the way, i think the thread is in wrong section, it should be in "Discussion" !
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Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.
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Well, the first phone with the 855+ AND a software which is efficient like OOS will be very slightly faster than our OP7Pro.
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Yes, from what I'm reading 855 and 855+ are the same except for CPU and GPU speeds.
You can use a custom kernel to overclock to the same speeds (if not better).
However, because this phone already runs everything perfectly it might not even be worth it considering unlocking bootloader, wiping data, increased battery drain from the boost, potential issues.
All of my games run at the framerate cap on stock anyway.
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Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.
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Just wanted to know if we still have the most powerful Android phone in the world lol at least until the 865 comes out next year.
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What does it matter?
Does it do everything you want already that fast? Benchmarks dont make a phone, people need to get out of this mindset fast.
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What does it matter?
Does it do everything you want already that fast? Benchmarks dont make a phone, people need to get out of this mindset fast.
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Most don't need 12gb of ram. 3 is enough for most people. Or 256 gb of storage . But it's nice to have the hp under the hood even if you don't use it.
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Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.
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Maybe for CPU but you can OC the GPU
tech_head said:
Custom kernels will not allow overclock.
They have moved clock control.
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What is "moved clock control"?
I've never seen a custom kernel that can't overclock.
Did Oneplus change it so that it cannot be overclocked?
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Most don't need 12gb of ram. 3 is enough for most people. Or 256 gb of storage . But it's nice to have the hp under the hood even if you don't use it.
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Very true
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What is "moved clock control"?
I've never seen a custom kernel that can't overclock.
Did Oneplus change it so that it cannot be overclocked?
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From what I understand it's not oneplus it's Qualcomm that made it so you can't over clock cpu.
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Maybe for CPU but you can OC the GPU
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Oh that's good to know. I prefer GPU clock access anyways .
The 855+ only has a 3% CPU overclock
The GPU overclock is 15% but SmurfKernel can do more than a 30% overclock on our device
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Very true
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From what I understand it's not oneplus it's Qualcomm that made it so you can't over clock cpu.
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Correct. It's now in a protected area.
Arden144 said:
The 855+ only has a 3% CPU overclock
The GPU overclock is 15% but SmurfKernel can do more than a 30% overclock on our device
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That's unreal. So many possibilities with this phone!
3dMark with the EX 1.12 kernel 675mhz GPU. I haven't tried with gaming mode though. Score was 5932.
Is it possible OC Snapdragon 855 GPU to match the upcoming 865 ?
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Is it possible OC Snapdragon 855 GPU to match the upcoming 865 ?
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Can't tell until we know the benchmark scores of the 865