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[Q] What is the best GPU? (between today's dual core droids only)

I finally have enough money to buy a new dual-core droid and I have a few units on my list. I already made some research on other aspects and I'm left with just another question: What is the best GPU in today's dual-cores?
Please take note that I'm not interested in quad-cores simply because I can't afford them! And I'm not into tablets too. Please limit the answers based on dual-cores only.
The GPUs I'm comparing are the ff:
-MALI-400
-Adreno 220
-PowerVR SGX540
As I said, I already did some research but the threads I saw are all outdated. Also, we have a lot of phones that came out last year having the above mentioned GPUs so I'm guessing we have more accurate info now.
I need help. I'm not a rich guy, I'll be buying a phone with my savings and I really want to be satisfied with the device I'll be getting 'cause I'll probably be stuck with it for the next 3 to 4 years.
Your help will be really appreciated!
*Again just a reminder, I'm only interested in the GPU performance. Nothing else.

a galaxy s2 gt-i9100 its very fast it has a 1.2ghz processor Samsung exynos dual core 1 gigabyte of ram

no doubt, the powerVR SGX540, with the Adreno coming second (not a close second however lol, a far one).

icenight89 said:
no doubt, the powerVR SGX540, with the Adreno coming second (not a close second however lol, a far one).
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no!!
I say the Mali is first
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See. That's why I was getting confused. In dual-cores, some say the MALI is the best, some say it's the Adreno 220, and some claims it's the PowerVR SGX540.
Is there any way to determine the best overall? I know they have strenghts and weaknesses but what I want is the overall best. If you can provide facts or links to support your claims that would really be appreciated.

dirtbikerr450 said:
a galaxy s2 gt-i9100 its very fast it has a 1.2ghz processor Samsung exynos dual core 1 gigabyte of ram
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I know it's fast. It's bigger brother, the Note, is actually on my list. But what I'm interested in is the GPU. How does MALI-400 stack up against Adreno 220 and PowerVR SGX540.
Thanks for taking time to reply though

cepcamba said:
I know it's fast. It's bigger brother, the Note, is actually on my list. But what I'm interested in is the GPU. How does MALI-400 stack up against Adreno 220 and PowerVR SGX540.
Thanks for taking time to reply though
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They did some benchmark tests and the Mali destroyed the competition. I think it was on anandtech. sorry no links but Google is ur friend
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scuzzbag87 said:
They did some benchmark tests and the Mali destroyed the competition. I think it was on anandtech. sorry no links but Google is ur friend
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Yeah,I saw this benchmark too. Definitely, Mali is the best
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There's been a lot of discussion about it on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968

Google is your friend but to save you time its the mali. The following article details the benchmarks for each gpu what surprised me is my phones chip can play 1080p 3D video yet the mali beat it :what:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
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mistermentality said:
Google is your friend but to save you time its the mali. The following article details the benchmarks for each gpu what surprised me is my phones chip can play 1080p 3D video yet the mali beat it :what:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for the link, but I actually came across it while I was doing my research. I got some points from it but not what entirely what I was looking for.
Moon2 said:
There's been a lot of discussion about it on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
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I also saw this one, which actually made me more confused! lol Got a lot of points from here though.
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They did some benchmark tests and the Mali destroyed the competition. I think it was on anandtech. sorry no links but Google is ur friend
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Actually, google is my best friend. I already tried googling for what I was looking for but I can't find the exact answer. I'm getting mixed reviews.
Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it. I guess what I'm looking for is real life performance. Of course a MALI-400 on a 800x480 screen have a performance advantage over a qHD/720p screen Adreno 220/PowerVR SGX540 though you might have to sacrifice image quality.
Soooooo I came to this conclusion: All the these GPUs are good enough for running almost every, if not all, apps on the Play Store. I was actually contemplating on whether to buy a Samsung Galaxy Note (5.3"), Xperia S, LG Nitro HD, and Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
These phones are all dual-cores with HD screens which I consider a must for my multimedia needs/wants. I ruled out the Galaxy Nexus first because of it's 5MP camera and non-expandable capacity. Next I ruled out the Nitro HD. It's a good phone but the around 3hours of talk time is a big no-no for me (I make a lot of calls). So I got down to the Note and Xperia S.
I now choose the Xperia S! Hooray! Reason: I believe the 1.5GHZ dual-core, 1GB RAM, Adreno 220, will be good enough to run almost everything smoothly for the next one or two years. Bonus: I get a 32GB internal storage, digicam quality 12MP shooter with excellent 720p/1080p vids, marvelous HD screen (though the SuperAMOLED is luring me towards the Note), and Sony's reputation of giving out updates even to their old devices (the x10 came from Donut land and got as far as Gingerbread country).
So there it is. I'll just probably save up again once there are Apps that my Xperia S can't run! Thanks for the help again.

Samsung Galaxy S3 on AnTuTu

Anyone else have Galaxy S3 specs on AnTuTu benchmark? I was running some tests and saw this...
Sorry for the quality, took with my Focus Flash.

All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?

Hmmm.....it seems there will be really a 1.4Ghz processor within. They are considering to improve the OS before they go for more hardware......
I hoped for little more juce.....

Red5 said:
All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?
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yeah, that was the one they announced back in september, people thought it would be in the gnex I think

Red5 said:
All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?
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Red5, didn't expect to see you here.
But yeah, you're right. Even though it's dual core, it seems to have better battery consumption than the Galaxy S II chip and "50% better GPU performance."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4900/samsung-talks-about-32nm-15ghz-exynos-soc
Edit: Just submitted this thread to Engadget. Let's see if they bite...
Edit2: Yup, found it through AnTuTu as well. It says "Certified Configuration" if that means anything.

Previous leaks have been of a quad-core phone, how does this being a dual core chip make any sense?
Edit: also the 4212 is clocked at 1.5 ghz, why is this reporting it at 1.4?

tehh4ck3r said:
Previous leaks have been of a quad-core phone, how does this being a dual core chip make any sense?
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Not at all! Or it's again dust in the wind? Soon we'll know

I think this is fake, i don't believe that Samsung could launch the Galaxy S3 with a dual-core A9 at this time... the previous leaks points to a quad-core processor - Exynos 4414.
This also could be one of the samples used for tests...

I it's true it sucks and won't really be able to compete with the IP5. Or are they aiming to smoke the now old IP4s? ... Not that impressive at all.

If it's true i think i would buy the HTC ONE X (Tegra3)

So if I overclocked my GNote's gpu I would get similar performance? If so then it looks like I'll be keeping my Note for another year.
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According to the bar graphs in antutu, the S3 would be just a bit under twice as powerful as the Note - which runs dual A9s at 1.4GHz also. The 32nm Mali-400s have been clocked 50% higher, which is the main performance difference - and that wouldn't go anywhere near explaining the massive overall performance gap. However that combined with an additional two A9 cores seems fairly realistic.
Either it's a complete fake, or it's just mislabeled - and is actually a 4412. Since this is reality, I'd lean towards the former.

Sjael said:
According to the bar graphs in antutu, the S3 would be just a bit under twice as powerful as the Note - which runs dual A9s at 1.4GHz also. The 32nm Mali-400s have been clocked 50% higher, which is the main performance difference - and that wouldn't go anywhere near explaining the massive overall performance gap. However that combined with an additional two A9 cores seems fairly realistic.
Either it's a complete fake, or it's just mislabeled - and is actually a 4412. Since this is reality, I'd lean towards the former.
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You can overclock an S2 or Note's GPU to 400mhz with Tegrak OC Ultimate, which is double the stock 266mhz.
EDIT:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2975835/samsung-14gz-exynos-4-quad-processor-next-galaxy?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
So it's quad core but still Mali-400 at 400mhz.
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Yep. Seems like AnTuTu didn't know what chip it was so they reported it as a 4212.

tehh4ck3r said:
Yep. Seems like AnTuTu didn't know what chip it was so they reported it as a 4212.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtvyTPIx3Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
In the video they compare Exynos 4 dual vs quad and the quad is labeled as Exynos 4212 so it seems Antutu was correct.
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It seems that Samsung change the name of the chips, see this http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_new_quadcore_exynos_4_quad_processor-news-4160.php.
4212 - Quad-Core
4210 - Dual-Core
Now the name on the Antutu makes sense.

Which processor is better?

Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?

RUSSIAN787 said:
Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?
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Better for what? Performance, energy saving, games on mobile phone? Quad-Core vs Dual-Core?
I'd prefer Quad-Core, but have never find a good test or benchmark for it.
Best regards
TT

RUSSIAN787 said:
Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?
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Is your question in regards to the sgs3? The Mali has a better gpu but processing power they are about equal with all the bench marks. Quad core is nice for aaving battery power (more cores work less as hard as a dual or single core so it it uses less battery) but I think its a a9 architecture but the s4 is a a15 architecture which is much more optimized then a a9 so its a little bit better for battery.
And the s4 allows for 4g lte where as Mali does not.
And the s4 pro is coming out soon and the lg optimus g will have that which will probably destroy both of them out of the water.
S4 pro is a a15 quad core with adreno 320 gpu and will be the first quad to support 4g lte.
The optimus g has all the same specs as sgs3 expect it has the better cpu/gpu. Ram, screen size, resolution as well as internal memory are all the same and I think its SD card slot allows for a 64gb card as well. If it comes out for Verizon then I will be torn between that and the sgs3. Depends on dev support if It comes out on Verizon.
But for the Mali its one up is it gpu. S4 one up is 4g lte. Every thing else is marginal and as an end user you will not see the difference.
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Yes I to sgs3. In terms of what the processor is better? in games for example? In general, whether with MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 go to Exynos?

Hi dude! both processors are good! And dont forget about A6(Iphone5). Sry for iphone 5 but that processor is ammazing!

RUSSIAN787 said:
Yes I to sgs3. In terms of what the processor is better? in games for example? In general, whether with MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 go to Exynos?
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The exynos is better for hardcore 3d gaming, but otherwise you won't notice the difference in day to day and casual gaming.
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FEXTEZI said:
Hi dude! both processors are good! And dont forget about A6(Iphone5). Sry for iphone 5 but that processor is ammazing!
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Doesn't matter because since its an iPhone its scaled back to "improve stability" so you will never get its full potential just like iphone 4s is.
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qualcomm did not much inferior to Exynos?

In most of the reviews of US and international S3, Exynos scored more than snapdragon. But I believe, normal user will not feel much difference.

I had one with Exynos in hand. Pretty good.

i think the Exynos is very good

Octa in the N3 Supports HMP (use of all 8 cores)

There was a bit of a scandal with the Octa SGS4 because it was discovered that Exynos 5410 only supported one of the two big.LITTLE operating modes. There are two: migration mode (1-4 A7 cores or 1-4 A15 cores running at the same time) and heterogeneous multi processing mode (HMP) where 1-8 cores can be running at the same time. The new Exynos 5420 chip in the N3 now supports HMP which should really improve high-end performance. We'll have to see what it does to battery life.
This is a good explanation of what was wrong in 5410 (SGS4) and what's new in 5420 (N3)...
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...ta-can-use-eight-cores-simultaneously-267316/

I have a feeling it will end up being a success. It might even being what's put into the S5. I'm sure it might be an upgraded version of it but it will mainly be the same chip.
Right now the most powerful chip is the S800. I'm not sure about the new Octa-Core as far as being more powerful but it could definitely be more efficient. That's soon going to be what people want as you only need so much power for a phone. I'm sure Samsung will implement there own envelope tracker down the road but from what I've read. There new Octa-Core going in the Note 3 doesn't have one. The S800 version of the Note 3 is the only phone to date to have one. If it works as well as they say. It will be great.
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So its running 4 A7s+ 4 A15s at one go? 4 express and 4 normal lanes?
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Are you sure intl Note 3 is going to get 5420? Samsung says end of Q4 and Note 3 is coming this 25th.
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Are you sure intl Note 3 is going to get 5420? Samsung says end of Q4 and Note 3 is coming this 25th.
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That's like 5 days from Q4!
The main issue with 5410 is certain hardware constraint. For 5420, it's just a matter of software upgrade. Exynos Dev AndreiLux has mentioned it a few times.
It will never have HMP.
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The only thing needed from Samsung is a working MCPM backend which we already have on the 5420. Getting HMP working is a matter of upstreaming the kernel core to 3.11 and that's it. I'm talking about the 5420 here as that's just a matter of software, not 5410 where it's physically not possible.
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[Discussion] GalaxyNoteIII -Exynos vs. Qualcomm

Hi
Discuss and Compare Note III Exynos vs. Qualcomm
General Performance
- Performance of Gaming
- Performance of (using another apps)
Battery Life
& etc.
Note III N9000 will brings real Octa-Core /Exynos 5 Octa 5420 (N9000)
It means u have 4+4 cores to work with true 3GB of RAM; it seems best thing for multi-taskers...
and it might get best cpu performance (highest benchmark) even with bad hardware calibration!
Adreno 330 N9005 (Snapdragon) & Mali-T628 MP6 N9000 (Exynos) are almost similar
both have OpenCL, OpenGL ES 3.0, Renderscript Compute and etc.
infact thr s no technical reasons to get which one is better
so in my opinion in depend on ROM how to use GPU
S-Lag
the famous lag in launcher of galaxy device (touch wiz) > not found anything about it yet
But it s depend on time when do heavy using. so nothing to compare
Battery and charge
both Snapdragon 800 & Exynos 5420 (little.BIG) have energy efficient feature but there s better energy usage in N9005 (Snapdragon800) related to this video, Watch and some another report.
(will update with more choice and result)
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Qualcomm version wins hands down...maybe not in benchmarks but it will get cm for shure

These threads are pretty useless,we don't even have any information about real life performance of Exynos Note 3 and since it is certainly first soc of its own type ,we will have to see.
No offence to OP or any one
Edit:There are 2-3 threads discussing the same thing.
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i9100g user said:
These threads are pretty useless,we don't even have any information about real life performance of Exynos Note 3 and since it is certainly first soc of its own type ,we will have to see.
No offence to OP or any one
Edit:There are 2-3 threads discussing the same thing.
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this thread will update with more info
this means it s not just for 1-2 days
it will work months after releasing the phone
and we have info about phone from preview version of note3 (~80% of performance and etc)
we have lots of benchmark and performance report
display quality, sound quality
So if u didn't check them search it NOW and then discuss here
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which version do you think it will have the most dev support?

Even though i live in India where we are going to get the exynos version, I'd prefer the snapdragon version. Im new here, but doesnt 1.3 and 1.9GHz seem less for a high end premium smartphone? Also Snapdragon will get cm for sure,

valentinosael said:
which version do you think it will have the most dev support?
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maybe Quad-Cores version (Snapdragon) like S IV
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XDA HellHound said:
Even though i live in India where we are going to get the exynos version, I'd prefer the snapdragon version. Im new here, but doesnt 1.3 and 1.9GHz seem less for a high end premium smartphone? Also Snapdragon will get cm for sure,
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as u can check benchmarks of Octa version of Galaxy S4 u can realize that Octa-core of course has better performance than quad
the final quad-core antutu of note3 will be ~34,000 and octa will be 35,000 (at least)
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Some of the things I value are stability and low heat. I'm experiencing possible stability issues with Nexus 7 (2013) based on Snapdragon S4 Pro/600 where on level 10 in Modern Combat 3 it's not only heating up the device making it very warm but the game is also exiting consistently when this happens. I don't have that issue with the Exynos based Note II so I'm leaning towards preferring the Exynos 5420 in the Note III. Btw, Exynos is fabbed by Samsung while Snapdragon is fabbed by TSMC. IMHO, Samsung fab is better.

Sammy will include HMP in their octacore processors through a software upgrade .so all samsung octacore devices will become true octacore devices
So guess which will have high performance? Real octacore exynos 5420 or sd800??
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openmatrix said:
Sammy will include HMP in their octacore processors through a software upgrade .so all samsung octacore devices will become true octacore devices
So guess which will have high performance? Real octacore exynos 5420 or sd800??
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i don't think samsung gonna unleash that real octa core or HMP thingy for gn3..they will save it for gs5..

cellfrens said:
i don't think samsung gonna unleash that real octa core or HMP thingy for gn3..they will save it for gs5..
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Nope.. check out sammobile,their samsung insider claimed that sammy will bring HMP for every exynos 5xxx processors (from s4 onwards ) ,so be happy
Also for s5 they are gonna bring 64 bit processing architecture, same like iphone 5s , so they don't wanna save it for s5
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Which one will come with the Octocore version? the Exynos model or the Qualcomm model?

AllGamer said:
Which one will come with the Octocore version? the Exynos model or the Qualcomm model?
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Exynos
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openmatrix said:
Sammy will include HMP in their octacore processors through a software upgrade .so all samsung octacore devices will become true octacore devices
So guess which will have high performance? Real octacore exynos 5420 or sd800??
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While a cool feature, I'm not sure how many CPU bottlenecks are going to be multithreaded to the point that adding the four slower cores will provide a substantial benefit. I also have concerns that with all eight cores running, heat throttling would kick in pretty quickly. My guess would be that, both in benchmarks and in real-world situations, the 800 is usually going to come out on top.

In HMP this is what really gonna happen:
Small processes like texting,calling , etc... low powered A7 cpu's will be switched
Big processes like gaming , Benchmarking , 1080p video capturing etc... both A7 and A15 cores will be combined together and throttle the device upto the max perfomance
So the device will be power efficient and we can clearly see the dominated benchmark scores and RLP over sd 800 (this would be pretty like the perfomance b/w a dual cored device and a quad cored device)
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Exynos
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Ah... that means the Tmo version is most likely going to be the Quadcore version as it uses the Qualcomm version on every iteration of the Galaxy devices.
I was hoping for a little Octocore fun but, it'll be pointless if I can't use the cell radio

AllGamer said:
Ah... that means the Tmo version is most likely going to be the Quadcore version as it uses the Qualcomm version on every iteration of the Galaxy devices.
I was hoping for a little Octocore fun but, it'll be pointless if I can't use the cell radio
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Sd version will be released in countries having lte (like u.s) and octa core in international version (3g version)
Btw what's TMO??
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openmatrix said:
Sd version will be released in countries having lte (like u.s) and octa core in international version (3g version)
Btw what's TMO??
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T-mobile USA, a carrier known for using AWS radio bands

AllGamer said:
T-mobile USA, a carrier known for using AWS radio bands
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OK thanks
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