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[OFFTOPIC] NVIDIA Tegra 2 OR Samsung Mali-400?

Wanted your expert opinion on whether NVIDIA Tegra 2 is better OR Samsung Mali-400 GPU?
As much information you can provide would be very helpful.
Thanks!
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I was wondering this today too. In all probability the iPhone 5 will be running the same CPU/GPU as the iPad 2, which will probably be the dual core A5 chip with a PowerVR SGX543 (perhaps in dual configuration). Last year the Samsung used the same chip as the iPhone 4 but a PowerVR SGX540 instead of the iPhone 4's SGX535 so it was a bit more powerful.
This year it's a bit different since Samsung has decided to go with the ARM Mali (in some sort of multicore setup) which no one has any experience with really. Maybe apple has bought so much of samsung's chip that it left none for samsung themselves to actually use in their galaxy 2 lol.

Just my opinion.
Probably NVIDIA due to their expertise in the graphics sector.

From the preliminary data I've seen, Tegra 2 is a bit faster, significantly so with Flash vector rendering (though that's likely just because Flash hasn't been optimized for the Mali-400). It's looking like the Mali-400 is 10%-25% slower than Tegra 2, assuming the test data I've seen is based on a dual-core Mali-400 setup, which I'm reasonably certain it is.

There was even a blog where they ran a Quadrant and FPS test on LG Optimux 2x, Motorola Atrix and Samsung Galaxy S 2 - The overall winner was LG as its bearing the Tegra 2 along with Gingerbread; whereas Motorola Atrix is Tegra 2 with Froyo.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked

Confirmed: Tegra 2-equipped Samsung Galaxy S II is coming http://engt.co/gEVbgv

Wow... that's interesting. It's kind of a bummer knowing that the iPad2/iPhone5 hardware will be better than the Tegra2 phone/tablets...
Edit: Also just saw this on Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/imagination-technologies-powervr-sgx543mp2-really-is-faster-be/
With the SGX543 being 4x faster than the Nexus's SGX540, and the SGX540 being on par with Tegra 2's GeForce ULV GPU, all these Tegra 2 devices will be getting outdated quite fast =\
robstunner said:
Confirmed: Tegra 2-equipped Samsung Galaxy S II is coming http://engt.co/gEVbgv
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dinan said:
Wow... that's interesting. It's kind of a bummer knowing that the iPad2/iPhone5 hardware will be better than the Tegra2 phone/tablets...
Edit: Also just saw this on Engadget - http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/imagination-technologies-powervr-sgx543mp2-really-is-faster-be/
With the SGX543 being 4x faster than the Nexus's SGX540, and the SGX540 being on par with Tegra 2's GeForce ULV GPU, all these Tegra 2 devices will be getting outdated quite fast =\
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That just killed my enthusiasm for Galaxy S 2

Jibreil said:
That just killed my enthusiasm for Galaxy S 2
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Actually a Tegra 2 Galaxy S II pretty much has piqued my enthusiasm for it. I know in raw numbers a Quad Core Mali 400 looks to run circles around a Tegra 2. But Tegra 2 is the reference platform for Android 3.0 (and possibly 2.4 which looks to combine the tablet and phone platforms). In all probability, Android will be optimized for Tegra II and Mali 400 might not outperform it at all. PLaying the same game on a HTC Desire HD with the ADreno 205 and a Galaxy S with the PowerVR SGX 540 shows no discernable difference at all. So the extra horsepower is pretty much not utilized unless the app is optimized for it.

Really... what games specifically? I've tried games on my MT4G and my Vibrant/Nexus S and they ALWAYS ran smoother and faster on the hummingbird. Jet car stunts, asphault 5, dungeon defenders, reckless racing, etc... and in all graphics benchmarks adreno 205 loses to the SGX540.
BTW: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
Looks like samsung's chip might actually be quite capable.
darklordkk said:
Actually a Tegra 2 Galaxy S II pretty much has piqued my enthusiasm for it. I know in raw numbers a Quad Core Mali 400 looks to run circles around a Tegra 2. But Tegra 2 is the reference platform for Android 3.0 (and possibly 2.4 which looks to combine the tablet and phone platforms). In all probability, Android will be optimized for Tegra II and Mali 400 might not outperform it at all. PLaying the same game on a HTC Desire HD with the ADreno 205 and a Galaxy S with the PowerVR SGX 540 shows no discernable difference at all. So the extra horsepower is pretty much not utilized unless the app is optimized for it.
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dinan said:
Really... what games specifically? I've tried games on my MT4G and my Vibrant/Nexus S and they ALWAYS ran smoother and faster on the hummingbird. Jet car stunts, asphault 5, dungeon defenders, reckless racing, etc... and in all graphics benchmarks adreno 205 loses to the SGX540.
BTW: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/samsungs-exynos-4210-flexes-3d-gaming-muscle-at-gdc-2011-video/
Looks like samsung's chip might actually be quite capable.
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Practically the same games. I found hardly any difference. Apart from Hero of Sparta and some scenes in Skies of Glory with many planes, they both are pretty much on par as to what i've seen. Of course the Hummingbird is faster overall that is not in doubt. I just meant the difference is not very "discernable"

Mali for the win
i was getting pretty bummed out mali 400 but them i saw the odroid-a benchmark numbers on gl-benchmark( the odroid-A has the exynos). Since glbenchmark is so dependent on resolution you can scale up the scores to see what it would be at ipad res.
http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?D=Hardkernel+ODROID-A&benchmark=glpro20

Mali 400 trumps tegra 2 do a little research
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Next Nexus = Exynos version of SGS2 with sexy ID. Same as what they did with the SGS and NS. I would be happy with that.

Exynos much better than tegra.
tegra not optimaze for android....
exynos running like a Rambo !
and all benchmarks telling the same

avetny said:
Exynos much better than tegra.
tegra not optimaze for android....
exynos running like a Rambo !
and all benchmarks telling the same
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CMON just compare on GLBenchmark and would be fine...
I do not believe what I see.... Mali400 more powerfull than Tegra2, and TWO times more powerfull???? YOURE KIDDING ME?
Amazing... Nvidia go awai noob...

......1 SEC MAN !
I like sgs2 ! but one think! we "CANT" say WHO is BETTER !!!!! until !!!...until real Gingerbread gonna come for G2X !!!!!!!!
Than we gonna SEE who is faster !
2.2 VS 2.3 ?
morfic kernels 1.5 Ghz on g2x (tegra2) killing by scores results galaxy s2 1.5ghz. But lets wait 2.3 after I will tell u tegra2 or exynos
BEST REGARDS !

yes, i agreed with you, i doesn't clearly fair enough to compete because sgs 2 using gingerbread and o2x still froyo....

darklordkk said:
Actually a Tegra 2 Galaxy S II pretty much has piqued my enthusiasm for it. I know in raw numbers a Quad Core Mali 400 looks to run circles around a Tegra 2. But Tegra 2 is the reference platform for Android 3.0 (and possibly 2.4 which looks to combine the tablet and phone platforms). In all probability, Android will be optimized for Tegra II and Mali 400 might not outperform it at all. PLaying the same game on a HTC Desire HD with the ADreno 205 and a Galaxy S with the PowerVR SGX 540 shows no discernable difference at all. So the extra horsepower is pretty much not utilized unless the app is optimized for it.
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absolutely right m8
arronov said:
yes, i agreed with you, i doesn't clearly fair enough to compete because sgs 2 using gingerbread and o2x still froyo....
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ive been following this thread for a while now and i have to put an end to all this bull**** you lot are saying.
2.3 is not like what 2.2 was to 2.1. 2.2 was a huge speed boost compared to 2.1 with the arrival of jit. but 2.3 is not a HUGE speed boost. I believe there are some improvements in 3d graphics but not that much.
the reason why you havent seem major graphics improvement on existing games on the mali 400 sgs2 is that the games arent OPTIMISED for it. Devs like gameloft havent got around to making games with super high detail to run on the sgs2's new hardware
Tegra 2 however is different. in games like dun def you can clearly see a distinct difference in graphics with tegra 2's version looking like the pc/console version of the game and the non-tegra version (THIS INCLUDES THE MALI 400) looking much worse but still great.
all you lot have been saying that the mali 400 is better because its faster. WRONG. Raw speed isn't everything, you need apps and games to use those resources properly.
so while the tegra 2 gpu is slower than the mali 400, it has far more content made for it. I dont see the mali 400 getting much dev love in the future since the only branded device ive seen using a mali gpu
Ill tell you lot what i tell my friends who thinks sgs2 is king. gaming wise the sgs2 is NOT a dual core beast (i know technically it is dual core). It just runs the single games with no extra eye candy, it just runs it really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really fast.
hope that helps you make up your mind

Samsung Announces Exynos 5250 SoC, 2GHz A15 Dual-Core

SammyHub said:
Samsung has just unveiled a new System-on-chip (SoC) for future mobile devices. It’s the Exynos 5250 that boasts two Cortex-A15 chips clocked at 2GHz. The dual-core Exynos 5250 is created using a 32nm-low power HKMG process and is said to double the performance when compared to a 1.5GHz dual-core SoC based on Cortex-A9.
In addition to improved processing performance, Exynos 5250 features graphics performance improved by four times compared to Cortex-A9-based Application Processors, supports stereoscopic 3D displays and a display resolution of up to WQXGA (2560×1600).
Samsung says the new Exynos chip will be used in high-end tablets and will be mass produced sometime in the second quarter of next year.
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http://sammyhub.com/2011/11/30/samsung-unveils-cortex-a15-2ghz-exynos-5250-soc/
I have a feeling this will run circles around Tegra 3.

Killer Bee said:
http://sammyhub.com/2011/11/30/samsung-unveils-cortex-a15-2ghz-exynos-5250-soc/
I have a feeling this will run circles around Tegra 3.
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Damn, I just posted it in the Galaxy S3 rumor page.
Yea, you are right. It will run circles and a few squares and rectangles around any A9 SoC.

4x the Mali-400MP eh, I guess that means a new GPU. I wonder which one since the Mali-T604 won't be out until 2013.

Could be S3 material, the timing (Q2) matches.
Perhaps the GPU is the SGX543's successor ?

a strong mobile and i will have a buy ..

Initially this SoC will be available to Galaxy series Tablets and not for Smartphones.....

Killer Bee said:
4x the Mali-400MP eh, I guess that means a new GPU. I wonder which one since the Mali-T604 won't be out until 2013.
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T604 & T658 will arrive next year in devices according to this blog...
http://blogs.arm.com/multimedia/626-launching-mali-t658-“hi-five-eight-welcome-to-the-party”/

Nigma2k said:
T604 & T658 will arrive next year in devices according to this blog...
http://blogs.arm.com/multimedia/626-launching-mali-t658-“hi-five-eight-welcome-to-the-party”/
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I'd like the T604 to be in the Exynos 5250 but that gpu was said to be 10x more powerful than the Mali-400, something Samsung would probably state if that was were the case.
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nice, maybe i will buy it

I'm thinking a Mali T604 in the 4412 and SGX 543 MP4 in the 5520. They recently announced that they have a license for 5 series MP

Killer Bee said:
I'd like the T604 to be in the Exynos 5250 but that gpu was said to be 10x more powerful than the Mali-400, something Samsung would probably state if that was were the case.
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T658 will be 10x Mali 400, so t604 is more inline with what Samsung are saying.

iPad 3 with A5 S? It's been mention it'll have a higher resolution and it's been mentioned that its coming soon.

Put one in a galaxy tab and give me some xda devs making firmware for it and i'll get it.

The Dogan said:
iPad 3 with A5 S? It's been mention it'll have a higher resolution and it's been mentioned that its coming soon.
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Who made the processor ? Samsung ? I don't think so
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thats gonna be a crazy phone

EmoBoiix3 said:
Who made the processor ? Samsung ? I don't think so
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I thought it was based on theirs? Just with some tweaks for iOS and all that.
EDIT: Just checked wikipedia and it says the A5 is manufactured by Samsung. If it's manufactured by sammy then I'd say there's a pretty good chance it's based on their tech.

No its actually apple that designed it and sent the blueprints to SAMSUNG to make.
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Looks really nice, thanks!

Kailkti said:
No its actually apple that designed it and sent the blueprints to SAMSUNG to make.
$1 gets you a reply
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Aren't they at war ?
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I wonder how much it will overclock

Samsung Galaxy S3 on AnTuTu

Anyone else have Galaxy S3 specs on AnTuTu benchmark? I was running some tests and saw this...
Sorry for the quality, took with my Focus Flash.

All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?

Hmmm.....it seems there will be really a 1.4Ghz processor within. They are considering to improve the OS before they go for more hardware......
I hoped for little more juce.....

Red5 said:
All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?
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yeah, that was the one they announced back in september, people thought it would be in the gnex I think

Red5 said:
All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?
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Red5, didn't expect to see you here.
But yeah, you're right. Even though it's dual core, it seems to have better battery consumption than the Galaxy S II chip and "50% better GPU performance."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4900/samsung-talks-about-32nm-15ghz-exynos-soc
Edit: Just submitted this thread to Engadget. Let's see if they bite...
Edit2: Yup, found it through AnTuTu as well. It says "Certified Configuration" if that means anything.

Previous leaks have been of a quad-core phone, how does this being a dual core chip make any sense?
Edit: also the 4212 is clocked at 1.5 ghz, why is this reporting it at 1.4?

tehh4ck3r said:
Previous leaks have been of a quad-core phone, how does this being a dual core chip make any sense?
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Not at all! Or it's again dust in the wind? Soon we'll know

I think this is fake, i don't believe that Samsung could launch the Galaxy S3 with a dual-core A9 at this time... the previous leaks points to a quad-core processor - Exynos 4414.
This also could be one of the samples used for tests...

I it's true it sucks and won't really be able to compete with the IP5. Or are they aiming to smoke the now old IP4s? ... Not that impressive at all.

If it's true i think i would buy the HTC ONE X (Tegra3)

So if I overclocked my GNote's gpu I would get similar performance? If so then it looks like I'll be keeping my Note for another year.
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According to the bar graphs in antutu, the S3 would be just a bit under twice as powerful as the Note - which runs dual A9s at 1.4GHz also. The 32nm Mali-400s have been clocked 50% higher, which is the main performance difference - and that wouldn't go anywhere near explaining the massive overall performance gap. However that combined with an additional two A9 cores seems fairly realistic.
Either it's a complete fake, or it's just mislabeled - and is actually a 4412. Since this is reality, I'd lean towards the former.

Sjael said:
According to the bar graphs in antutu, the S3 would be just a bit under twice as powerful as the Note - which runs dual A9s at 1.4GHz also. The 32nm Mali-400s have been clocked 50% higher, which is the main performance difference - and that wouldn't go anywhere near explaining the massive overall performance gap. However that combined with an additional two A9 cores seems fairly realistic.
Either it's a complete fake, or it's just mislabeled - and is actually a 4412. Since this is reality, I'd lean towards the former.
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You can overclock an S2 or Note's GPU to 400mhz with Tegrak OC Ultimate, which is double the stock 266mhz.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2975835/samsung-14gz-exynos-4-quad-processor-next-galaxy?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
So it's quad core but still Mali-400 at 400mhz.
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Yep. Seems like AnTuTu didn't know what chip it was so they reported it as a 4212.

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Yep. Seems like AnTuTu didn't know what chip it was so they reported it as a 4212.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtvyTPIx3Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
In the video they compare Exynos 4 dual vs quad and the quad is labeled as Exynos 4212 so it seems Antutu was correct.
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It seems that Samsung change the name of the chips, see this http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_new_quadcore_exynos_4_quad_processor-news-4160.php.
4212 - Quad-Core
4210 - Dual-Core
Now the name on the Antutu makes sense.

can I have some advice?

Guys ive been reading on net bout android phone ive been wanting to buy sgs3 but when I saw some forum saying quadcore is useless on sgs3 that its better having dual core and now I saw Xperia tx verion that won benchmark test that saying has better performance that sgs3 so guys what is the phone?
For me im into gaming RPG on android phone and net surfing music etc

I'm pretty sure only the international sgs3 has a quad core... but I may be wrong on that.
As far as cpu performance goes, I prefer the tegra processors over the snapdragons. LG optimus hd has one of these in a quad core version available oversees.
This isnt about opinions though, trust the benchmark results.
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Well it really depends on what you feel. Benchmarks are pointless. only real world use matters. I would give up the quad core for the 2gb of ram the US Moslem comes with but for gaming the spores line is your best bet as those are gaming devices
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Eh same could've been said about dual core when it first popped up for us. Its more about taking advantage of the cores that's the situation. Later versions of android are surely to take full capacity of the cores as more and more phones adopt. As for the phone, the gs3 is perfect for gaming, media, browsing ect. Although its plastic, the way its shipped makes it comfortable to hold in the hand
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The best overall performance for a phone has to be the Galaxy S3. It comes with a Snapdragon S4, which is an entirely NEW architecture. That means snapdragon is half a generation ahead of the tegra 3 and exynos 4 in terms of cpu design. The only drawback of the S4 is its gpu, as it only has an adreno 225, which is a slight upgrade from it's old gpu. Otherwise the Galaxy S3 is still a powerhouse.
As for gaming, the Tegra 3 has a slight edge due to NVIDIA forming partnerships with game developers and they optimize some games to run well on the tegra 3.
http://androidandme.com/2012/05/sma...erformance-gpu-battery-life-and-web-browsing/
Overall, real-performance is the almost the same for both phones, One X and GSIII, but with a slight edge to the GSIII for its superior S4.

i think sgs3 dual core version with 2gb ram wont be released in europe i only saw in italy is quadcore with 1gb ram T_T but ithink 1g ram is still good coz my father has sgs2 ^^
so if we will base on experience sgs3 is still the best ill gonna save a bit more for that phone XD

Anything Krait is good, the S4 is a very capable chip. The quad pro version will be a beast.
Exynos is fast as well, Nvidia is better for gaming. But it also depends on how well the manufacturers optimise their software to run on the hardware.
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Xperia TX. Go for it. No TouchWiz, better camera and design. Jelly Bean almost after launch.

it is very important to know if it is quad or dual cored. If it is quad then it will run faster because there is less stress on the cpu, then if it was dual. but, honestly, i ahve been using my droid incredible for a very long time. This is a 1 GHZ single core cpu and i use it heavily. i play n64 games on it without over clocking (the max cpu is like 1134 mhz, but i set it to about 600mhz and i can play with absolutely no lag.) so, what i am saying is that it doesn't matter if it is dual or quad cored because it is fast enough already. but, i know the international version, or at least the one i saw in india when i went there for vacation is quad. i think the USA version is quad as well. and btw, i have played with it. it's a great phone. the display is beautiful. the battery life is amazing. flash a kernel on it and i think you can run for 2-3 days with light/medium use in a single charge. go get that phone!

International galaxy s3 is quad core with 1gb a ram and is 1.4ghz which can be over clocked to 1.7ghz. I have an international galaxy s3 as I am from UK.
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quad core might not be fully usable at the moment but it will get better.
the main thing is the i9300 (international version) will have far more vast support then any carrier specific models us versions.

Benchamrk results are not that important
Get the S3 because its good for gaming with bigger screen and nice comfy shape :good:

carlo242 said:
Guys ive been reading on net bout android phone ive been wanting to buy sgs3 but when I saw some forum saying quadcore is useless on sgs3 that its better having dual core and now I saw Xperia tx verion that won benchmark test that saying has better performance that sgs3 so guys what is the phone?
For me im into gaming RPG on android phone and net surfing music etc
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I am also looking at getting a new phone. I am leaning towards a quadcore because I tend to have phones for a while. (Still rocking my captivate...) I figure that even though applications are not optimized for the quadcore yet, they will be in the future, which means I can make use of the phone for longer without feeling the need that I "have" to upgrade.

Adreno 225 at 720p and mali400?

Hey guys was hoping you could help me out since I am a big newbie when it comes to the mobile world
I am looking to buy a new phone, and one of the phones I've choosen to buy has adreno 225, 1.5ghz krait and 720p 4.7" screen (its the pantech (or SKY) a830l ).
Was hoping you guys could help me and let me know which games and/or apps (if any) I wont be able to run because of gpu bottle-neck on this resolution, and how future proof the adreno 225 will prove to be..
additionally, my alternative choice is htc One X
One X is almost twice the price of the pantechm , so I want to know whether its really worth it in terms of cpu and gpu power (ignoring the better screen for a bit).
Also, I've noticed that many 'very' powerful cell phones have mali400 (including galaxy note (1) and SIII). I've heard people say that adreno 225 is better than mali400 AND that SIII outperforms in games cell phones with much more powerful graphics card. So now im really confused. Am I missing something?

death_relic0 said:
Hey guys was hoping you could help me out since I am a big newbie when it comes to the mobile world
I am looking to buy a new phone, and one of the phones I've choosen to buy has adreno 225, 1.5ghz krait and 720p 4.7" screen (its the pantech (or SKY) a830l ).
Was hoping you guys could help me and let me know which games and/or apps (if any) I wont be able to run because of gpu bottle-neck on this resolution, and how future proof the adreno 225 will prove to be..
additionally, my alternative choice is htc One X
One X is almost twice the price of the pantechm , so I want to know whether its really worth it in terms of cpu and gpu power (ignoring the better screen for a bit).
Also, I've noticed that many 'very' powerful cell phones have mali400 (including galaxy nexus and SIII). I've heard people say that adreno 225 is better than mali400 AND that SIII outperforms in games cell phones with much more powerful graphics card. So now im really confused. Am I missing something?
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mali 400 easily outperforms adreno 225... that's why it is in galaxy s3
and it has capability upto 4 cores so it is better
more comparable to it would be adreno 320!
the "pantech" one is a good choice if pricing suits you! You'll be able to play many games but i assume 1.5 ghz krait is either dual/quad core!! If yes you are good to go!

js2892 said:
mali 400 easily outperforms adreno 225... that's why it is in galaxy s3
and it has capability upto 4 cores so it is better
more comparable to it would be adreno 320!
the "pantech" one is a good choice if pricing suits you! You'll be able to play many games but i assume 1.5 ghz krait is either dual/quad core!! If yes you are good to go!
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thanks for the reply, really appreciate the clarification.
Ive seen a couple of benchmarks but benchmarks are just benchmarks. Based on current games an apps, how many games and apps are there that wont be able to run because of the gpu? and can you give me some examples? hope I'm not asking too much :angel:
the pantech 830 is Super IPS LCD 720p (4.8"), krait dual core 1.5ghz and adreno 225
Samsung galaxy Note (N7000) is Super Amoled 720p (5.3"), cortex A-9, mali400, about 25% more expensive than the pantech
HTC One X is about twice the price of the pantech (and I really doubt I need the quad core)

death_relic0 said:
thanks for the reply, really appreciate the clarification.
Ive seen a couple of benchmarks but benchmarks are just benchmarks. Based on current games an apps, how many games and apps are there that wont be able to run because of the gpu? and can you give me some examples? hope I'm not asking too much :angel:
the pantech 830 is Super IPS LCD 720p (4.8"), krait dual core 1.5ghz and adreno 225
Samsung galaxy Note (N7000) is Super Amoled 720p (5.3"), cortex A-9, mali400, about 25% more expensive than the pantech
HTC One X is about twice the price of the pantech (and I really doubt I need the quad core)
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Well the pantech phone will run almost all games.. Games which have state of the art graphics like nova3,wild blood and latest nfs, asphalt releases might be a problem.. But those can also be made working by rooting and enabling hardware acceleration
Note and one x will run all games but i understand they are costly
Then again it comes to u, how much u want to pay!
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js2892 said:
Well the pantech phone will run almost all games.. Games which have state of the art graphics like nova3,wild blood and latest nfs, asphalt releases might be a problem.. But those can also be made working by rooting and enabling hardware acceleration
Note and one x will run all games but i understand they are costly
Then again it comes to u, how much u want to pay!
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thanks for the reply..Im willing to spend more but I just dont want spend money on hardware which I wont be utilizing. Id like to game on my mobile, but not dying do and dont mind if a few games dont work. Prefer gaming on my PC in any case.
Just want to confirm that all apps would work and I could run 720p videos on the pantech smoothly.