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[Q] What is the best GPU? (between today's dual core droids only)

I finally have enough money to buy a new dual-core droid and I have a few units on my list. I already made some research on other aspects and I'm left with just another question: What is the best GPU in today's dual-cores?
Please take note that I'm not interested in quad-cores simply because I can't afford them! And I'm not into tablets too. Please limit the answers based on dual-cores only.
The GPUs I'm comparing are the ff:
-MALI-400
-Adreno 220
-PowerVR SGX540
As I said, I already did some research but the threads I saw are all outdated. Also, we have a lot of phones that came out last year having the above mentioned GPUs so I'm guessing we have more accurate info now.
I need help. I'm not a rich guy, I'll be buying a phone with my savings and I really want to be satisfied with the device I'll be getting 'cause I'll probably be stuck with it for the next 3 to 4 years.
Your help will be really appreciated!
*Again just a reminder, I'm only interested in the GPU performance. Nothing else.

a galaxy s2 gt-i9100 its very fast it has a 1.2ghz processor Samsung exynos dual core 1 gigabyte of ram

no doubt, the powerVR SGX540, with the Adreno coming second (not a close second however lol, a far one).

icenight89 said:
no doubt, the powerVR SGX540, with the Adreno coming second (not a close second however lol, a far one).
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no!!
I say the Mali is first
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See. That's why I was getting confused. In dual-cores, some say the MALI is the best, some say it's the Adreno 220, and some claims it's the PowerVR SGX540.
Is there any way to determine the best overall? I know they have strenghts and weaknesses but what I want is the overall best. If you can provide facts or links to support your claims that would really be appreciated.

dirtbikerr450 said:
a galaxy s2 gt-i9100 its very fast it has a 1.2ghz processor Samsung exynos dual core 1 gigabyte of ram
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I know it's fast. It's bigger brother, the Note, is actually on my list. But what I'm interested in is the GPU. How does MALI-400 stack up against Adreno 220 and PowerVR SGX540.
Thanks for taking time to reply though

cepcamba said:
I know it's fast. It's bigger brother, the Note, is actually on my list. But what I'm interested in is the GPU. How does MALI-400 stack up against Adreno 220 and PowerVR SGX540.
Thanks for taking time to reply though
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They did some benchmark tests and the Mali destroyed the competition. I think it was on anandtech. sorry no links but Google is ur friend
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scuzzbag87 said:
They did some benchmark tests and the Mali destroyed the competition. I think it was on anandtech. sorry no links but Google is ur friend
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Yeah,I saw this benchmark too. Definitely, Mali is the best
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There's been a lot of discussion about it on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968

Google is your friend but to save you time its the mali. The following article details the benchmarks for each gpu what surprised me is my phones chip can play 1080p 3D video yet the mali beat it :what:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
Dave
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mistermentality said:
Google is your friend but to save you time its the mali. The following article details the benchmarks for each gpu what surprised me is my phones chip can play 1080p 3D video yet the mali beat it :what:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for the link, but I actually came across it while I was doing my research. I got some points from it but not what entirely what I was looking for.
Moon2 said:
There's been a lot of discussion about it on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050968
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I also saw this one, which actually made me more confused! lol Got a lot of points from here though.
scuzzbag87 said:
They did some benchmark tests and the Mali destroyed the competition. I think it was on anandtech. sorry no links but Google is ur friend
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Actually, google is my best friend. I already tried googling for what I was looking for but I can't find the exact answer. I'm getting mixed reviews.
Thank you guys for sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it. I guess what I'm looking for is real life performance. Of course a MALI-400 on a 800x480 screen have a performance advantage over a qHD/720p screen Adreno 220/PowerVR SGX540 though you might have to sacrifice image quality.
Soooooo I came to this conclusion: All the these GPUs are good enough for running almost every, if not all, apps on the Play Store. I was actually contemplating on whether to buy a Samsung Galaxy Note (5.3"), Xperia S, LG Nitro HD, and Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
These phones are all dual-cores with HD screens which I consider a must for my multimedia needs/wants. I ruled out the Galaxy Nexus first because of it's 5MP camera and non-expandable capacity. Next I ruled out the Nitro HD. It's a good phone but the around 3hours of talk time is a big no-no for me (I make a lot of calls). So I got down to the Note and Xperia S.
I now choose the Xperia S! Hooray! Reason: I believe the 1.5GHZ dual-core, 1GB RAM, Adreno 220, will be good enough to run almost everything smoothly for the next one or two years. Bonus: I get a 32GB internal storage, digicam quality 12MP shooter with excellent 720p/1080p vids, marvelous HD screen (though the SuperAMOLED is luring me towards the Note), and Sony's reputation of giving out updates even to their old devices (the x10 came from Donut land and got as far as Gingerbread country).
So there it is. I'll just probably save up again once there are Apps that my Xperia S can't run! Thanks for the help again.

MTK6577 phones?

Hi All,
Been seeing a lot of china phones running the MTK6577 + SGX531 and was wondering if anyone had any real performance figures on any of these devices, particularly those with screen resolutions greater than 800x480.
There are a lot of knock-off phones running this however there are some china-branded phones sporting them as well.
Ive seen some threads surrounding haipai devices that are running this SoC, however they only seem to have 512MB RAM and WVGA screens (albeit the screens are quite large physically).
I was wondering if there were any phones running MTK6577 with 1GB RAM and a 960x540 or better yet a 1280x720 screen?
I understand that they are cheap and would like to know if they represent 'bang-for-buck' at all?

Well depends who makes it ...xiaomi is great got the mi-1 going to get the two ... look at fastcardtech.com for xiaomi mi-2
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I have the Haipai x710d MTK6577, And so far i love it, Rooted with a custom rom, Super fast and lots of features 2gb of usable space, With the custom rom it fixes the SD card problem so you are able to save all your data and app on it now. very speedy, great screen color yeah its not a super amoled or anything but it looks great to me, It depends on opinion about the screen resolution and the way it looks. Games play great. Battery life is awesome. Camera is awesome. ICS 4.0.9, For me and this is my first second Chinese phone, And so far i love it. recommend to anyone.
Chris

hyperqwest said:
I have the Haipai x710d MTK6577, And so far i love it, Rooted with a custom rom, Super fast and lots of features 2gb of usable space, With the custom rom it fixes the SD card problem so you are able to save all your data and app on it now. very speedy, great screen color yeah its not a super amoled or anything but it looks great to me, It depends on opinion about the screen resolution and the way it looks. Games play great. Battery life is awesome. Camera is awesome. ICS 4.0.9, For me and this is my first second Chinese phone, And so far i love it. recommend to anyone.
Chris
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I am interested in knowing the basics:
How is the phone signal, volume and clarity?
How is the GPS lock? Is it fast enough (under 10 seconds)? Is it usable for google navigation?
How is the camera? Fast enough with good pictures?
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I have been looking at the HaiPai however the low screen resolution is a bit unfortunate.
Was wondering if you had run Antutu on it at all?

tr1p1ea said:
I have been looking at the HaiPai however the low screen resolution is a bit unfortunate.
Was wondering if you had run Antutu on it at all?
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we need an a chinese phone section.
Just got my Amoi n820, trying to figure out how to root it.
Anyway Antutu score is about 5400+ ? its actually a pretty decent performer

It appears that there is an S3 knock-off that has a 1GB RAM and a 1280x720 screen which is pretty decent.
I have also found a "Hero H9500+" which is essentially a Zopo ZP900 but with only 512MB RAM and a 5.0MP camera (8.0MP would be better but ahh well).
Still for less than $200 it has a 5.3" QHD 960x540 screen. Havent been able to find any video demonstrations of it however.
It would be awesome to have a 5"+ phone with 1GB RAM and a 1280x720 screen. I think we will see them soonish.
I understand that MediaTek are bringing out a quad-core (i think its MTK6585?) later this year which should see quad-core china phones boom. The GPU is supposed to be the SGX544 which is used in TI OMAP 4 amongst other things.

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hyperqwest said:
I have the Haipai x710d MTK6577, And so far i love it, Rooted with a custom rom, Super fast and lots of features 2gb of usable space, With the custom rom it fixes the SD card problem so you are able to save all your data and app on it now. very speedy, great screen color yeah its not a super amoled or anything but it looks great to me, It depends on opinion about the screen resolution and the way it looks. Games play great. Battery life is awesome. Camera is awesome. ICS 4.0.9, For me and this is my first second Chinese phone, And so far i love it. recommend to anyone.
Chris
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Hi,
How to root this phone?
Thx

kasimxp said:
Hi,
How to root this phone?
Thx
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You can root it using TSsparky

Can some one please tell me which is the better processor b/w MTK6575 and MTK6577? Thanks.

MTK6575 - single core
MTK6577 - dual core
The MTK6577 is better.

tr1p1ea said:
It appears that there is an S3 knock-off that has a 1GB RAM and a 1280x720 screen which is pretty decent.
I have also found a "Hero H9500+" which is essentially a Zopo ZP900 but with only 512MB RAM and a 5.0MP camera (8.0MP would be better but ahh well).
Still for less than $200 it has a 5.3" QHD 960x540 screen. Havent been able to find any video demonstrations of it however.
It would be awesome to have a 5"+ phone with 1GB RAM and a 1280x720 screen. I think we will see them soonish.
I understand that MediaTek are bringing out a quad-core (i think its MTK6585?) later this year which should see quad-core china phones boom. The GPU is supposed to be the SGX544 which is used in TI OMAP 4 amongst other things.
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how can i root this Hero H9500+?

Try getting the HDC Galaxy S3 Original, Plus, or Pro. They are almost perfect Samsung Galaxy S3 copies and I believe they have a 1.2ghz dual core processor in there and an 8 megapixel camera. I just don't know if there is a way to root it or install custom ROMs on it.

tr1p1ea said:
MTK6575 - single core
MTK6577 - dual core
The MTK6577 is better.
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Oh I just bought a phone from a chinies seller on ebay
Which said it's a dual core. But it has mtk 6575. It's N9880
With a 6 inch screen, 2gb Rom n 512 mb ram. Any body has that phone here? Looks realy nice in the videos. Should be getting it in a week or 2. Will do a review once I get it. here Is the lInk .... now I cant see dual core wrItten any where In the description, strange...... item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=320959704275&cmd=VIDESC

shri080 said:
Oh I just bought a phone from a chinies seller on ebay
Which said it's a dual core. But it has mtk 6575. It's N9880
With a 6 inch screen, 2gb Rom n 512 mb ram. Any body has that phone here? Looks realy nice in the videos. Should be getting it in a week or 2. Will do a review once I get it. here Is the lInk .... now I cant see dual core wrItten any where In the description, strange...... item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=320959704275&cmd=VIDESC
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Please do the review cuz i was looking at this same phone..

exynos said:
Try getting the HDC Galaxy S3 Original, Plus, or Pro. They are almost perfect Samsung Galaxy S3 copies and I believe they have a 1.2ghz dual core processor in there and an 8 megapixel camera. I just don't know if there is a way to root it or install custom ROMs on it.
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Be very careful. Many shops advertise 1,2 Ghz but they do send you a 1.0 Ghz phone. Afaik there is no 1.2 Ghz variant around.
I own one of the "1.2ghz" MTK 6577 and the fact that they have a sticker with "quadcore CPU" on it should tell you something about how the chinese advertise their products.
That being said i knew that i am buying a 1.0 GHZ dualcore phone and i am very happy with it. It's really fast and powerful enough to do some gaming if one likes to.
It's the Tinji I9300 S3 clone 4,7 inch. It's getting sold under all sorts of names aparrently.

Jequan said:
Be very careful. Many shops advertise 1,2 Ghz but they do send you a 1.0 Ghz phone. Afaik there is no 1.2 Ghz variant around.
I own one of the "1.2ghz" MTK 6577 and the fact that they have a sticker with "quadcore CPU" on it should tell you something about how the chinese advertise their products.
That being said i knew that i am buying a 1.0 GHZ dualcore phone and i am very happy with it. It's really fast and powerful enough to do some gaming if one likes to.
It's the Tinji I9300 S3 clone 4,7 inch. It's getting sold under all sorts of names aparrently.
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Out of curiosity what's android like on it? A TW knockoff or AOSP? How was rooting etc?
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R1ptide said:
Out of curiosity what's android like on it? A TW knockoff or AOSP? How was rooting etc?
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Sorry it's my first android phone. Switching over from an iphone 4.
I don't know TW or AOSP.
Rooting went with a nice script and very easy (thanks to a nice thread on here).

Jequan said:
Sorry it's my first android phone. Switching over from an iphone 4.
I don't know TW or AOSP.
Rooting went with a nice script and very easy (thanks to a nice thread on here).
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Could you post some screenshots of the home screen and app drawer?
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TW is TouchWiz (from Samsung Galaxy phones, look a screenshot of the home screen up on Google.) and AOSP is Android Open Source Project, and the design of that is found on the Galaxy Nexus (stock Android, no changes made to any icons.)

[Q] Exynos 4x12 - SMDK4x12 - Exynos 5250 - is it a Dual or a Quad Core CPU?

Hello guys,
I'm kinda confused here.
I'm asking about a CPU I seen some phones and tablets claim that they have it as a Quad Core processor but somehow in other places like in Antutu and other benchmark programs it'll say something else.
now in the Chinese phone Market you'll see a new line of Quad Core Devices, tablets or phones.
they say they have: Samsung Exynos 4412 CPU and as far as I know this is a Quad Core Processor.
but when u launch Antutu for example on some of these new Chinese Devices you'll see it says:
Exynos 4x12
and will show something like this:
CPU Hardware: SMDK4x12
CPU model: Dual-Core ARMv7 Processor (VFPv3, NEON)
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and actually when I read: Exynos 4x12 so the "X" doesn't clear it for me is it: 4212 the dual core one or the 4412 the Quad core one.. u see what I mean?
this is really confusing.
try for yourself searching for Galaxy s3 Clones or knockoff - Galaxy Note 2 Clones or knockoff and u'll see similar things to what I'm asking about.
also the GPU shows in some of these phones claiming to have Quad Core Exynos 4412 that it's: powervr sgx531, while the Samsung Exynos Quad core will have GPU: Mali-T604
lol the whole thing is messed up there..
hope that someone would come and clear it out so we dont get scammed when buying these devices.
thanks

Most Galaxy S2 or S3 clones and knock-offs use an MTK chipset such as the 6575 or the 6577. These would normally be paired with a previous-gen GPU such as the PowerVR SGX 530 or 531.
It is quite easy to modify Android to display a string about the CPU, anything you want really.
A true Exynos CPU will ship with a Mali GPU. The 4x series shipped with the Mali-400, the Exynos 5 in the Chromebook and Nexus 10 ships with the Mali-604, as you stated.
In short, you won't find an Exynos device without a Mali GPU. If it lists anything else - you're probably being misled

thx juzz86 for your reply.
u know what is making this confusion in my opinion?
it's when u read the CPU saying this:
CPU Hardware: SMDK4x12
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SMDK stands for: Samsung Mobile Developers Kit and the 4x12 most people will think it's the Quad Core Exynos 4412 cause in the advertisement of the device(s) the sellers claim it has Quad Core processor.
so I found out that: reading SMDK4x12 or even SMDK4412 doesn't mean that the processor itself is the Exynos 4412 Quad Core.
the funny thing is when I demand from some sellers to go online with me and to turn on the camera so I can see for myself whats going on, only then they get scared when they see me ask alot about the CPU and that I doubt it's the Quad Core.
I also have to confess that some of them (the sellers) honestly didn't know that they have a Dual Core Device and not a Quad Core.
so guys... watch out and pay extra attention to the new Claimed to be Samsung Exynos Quad Core 4412 Processor.
ask for proof and Guarantees, and good luck
thanks again juzz

Yes mate, always pays to ask a lot of questions before buying one of these. Unfortunately as you say, most sellers don't understand what they are selling, just that it is 'dual-SIM'.
There is a pretty good following behind at least two of the clones here in the 'General' and 'Android Hacking' forums. Doing a quick search should pull up some.root methods as well.
MTK are getting better, and now even have a quad-core CPU in the works. That'll be a compelling option for some knock-offs, for sure!
Happy buying mate!

Quod
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I think I just got scammed. Bought one of ebay couple of days ago and realize its most likely a fake

[Q] a special edition of N8010?

Recently I found a special edition of n8010 called engerneering edition or something,
It differs from the general n8010,it has a exynos 4410 dual-core CPU and only 1g ram.
(general edition has exynos 4412,Quad-core CPU and 2g ram, else are the same)
Now it has a system of android 4.0.3,every ROM for general n8010 dosen't work on this one.(A poor guy has tried this,and,thanks th him~!)
so I wanna know if I'd use android 4.0.4 or higher version,how?
Is it easy for ROM modifing?
Well,plz ignore my poor English~~

Smells like a Fake or Clone to me .

JJEgan said:
Smells like a Fake or Clone to me .
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Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them

erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them
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Well,one of them I know,is reselled electronic waste with a terrible shell.So I think it almost impossible to be a fake one.
The one with perfect shell is about 180 USD,or 1100 rmb.

erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them
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Yes that's it.The seller told me the same thing.He said that They're exactly for test use,and he got them by some ways.
If ROM modifing for specified CPU is easy,maybe I'll consider to get one~

May this pic help you.

erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power
I read it as a bought product .
But yes there have always been test products floating around or Sales Demo models .
The kernel on this one suggests it is one of the test jobs .
Multiple users bought S3 demo model that had no network .
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JJEgan said:
erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power
I read it as a bought product .
But yes there have always been test products floating around or Sales Demo models .
The kernel on this one suggests it is one of the test jobs .
Multiple users bought S3 demo model that had no network .
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I bought a Nexus7 II just now,happying~
I love Google! I love ASUS~~
Well,it's not cheap for that version of N8010,even if it's real.
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HDC Galaxys Note 3 N9000- MTK6589 Quad Core 1.2Ghz 5.7 Inch HD IPS Screen Android 4.3

So what do you guys says about this device
http://www.fastcardtech.com/HDC-Galaxy-Note-3-N9000-quad-core
i am thinking to buy one but confused whether this site is trusted or not and about the device how is it as i know its mtk6589
i dont expect much from this device but according to the price is it a good deal or not ?

i need mtk 6589 samsung gt n 9000 filash file and filasher
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So what do you guys says about this device
http://www.fastcardtech.com/HDC-Galaxy-Note-3-N9000-quad-core
i am thinking to buy one but confused whether this site is trusted or not and about the device how is it as i know its mtk6589
i dont expect much from this device but according to the price is it a good deal or not ?
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i need mtk 6589 samsung gt n 9000 one micro sim card inserted filash file and filasher

Not a good idea
saif kazi said:
So what do you guys says about this device
i am thinking to buy one but confused whether this site is trusted or not and about the device how is it as i know its mtk6589
I dont expect much from this device but according to the price is it a good deal or not ?
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I would like to pay more to get a LG L70/If even more budget then LG L90.Whatever Snapdragon are better than MTK(Whatever about the quality)