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Galaxy S just a label?

i was wondering. what exactly makes a Galaxy S device a Galaxy s device? i hope i made sense there...
because on twitter GalaxySsupport replied to a question i had originally asked to Samsungsupport about the infuse.

more or less. there are many phones named galaxy from samsung. then the galaxy s line came out, then the galaxy s conntinuum. then the galaxy indulge on metro pcs. then the i9003. galaxy s had a narrow line of hardware at first then they played with screens now the whole hardware profile can vary. the infuse is more galaxy s than the galaxy indulge, or the i9003. now they have the galaxy s 2 and will soon have the galaxy s 2 mini and galaxy s+ which will supposedly be based on a quallcom cpu.. so although the infuse has different gps hardware and mhl the radio is likely the same as the t959v sgs4g and is otherwise a galaxy s. samsung said it doesnt have the hardware requirements to be called a galaxy s when asked but it only seems to have hardware improvements. the audio chip is the same, the processor is the same, other phones called galaxy dont meet those requirements, and the phone is also capable of running gps and the camera while making phone calls, the sgs cant do either. im not really sure what game samsung is playing here but it seems galaxy s has been demoted to a label and att maybe didnt want that label because of the bugs and lack of support people think it had.

It seems to be a just a label. I mean this is way batter than any galaxy device out there. Poeple all up on dual core (I was one of them), what exactly do you need so much power for? How fast are you typing that you need a phone to keep up with you. The only phone that does require it would he the atrix because of its lapdock. But even then dual core seems to be a way to drain your battery if you don't know how to set up the phone correctly. And Samsung directed my question to the Galaxy S twitter account. I still think this phone meets and exceeds the requirements for a Galaxy S device.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.

multi core is hard to utilize fully(has to do with the way things are processed and applications are written) but the step from one to two can feel like a big difference in some situations. any lag caused by background services can disappear because there is a non busy processor core ready to go. the lag difference can give the perception of performance even if the actual speed something is processed at is not much faster. if a dual core comes out that has great battery life and no heat issues im sure it will be great. dual core doesnt throw me off that much, what gets me however is they are already talking about 4 core chips for phones! please figure out a way to make the architecture smaller or make 3d architecture like they have been talking about for years so we can get more hz and less power usage. it cant be easy to parallelize applications with simple functions that are written in java.
multi core is great for benchmarking but beyond 2 cores i dont see the point on a small screen and one is perfectly acceptable.

Atrix dual core. Lag and heat central on that phone.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

My atrix got very hot as well. I haven't noticed any speed difference between my atrix and the infuse. I think overall the infuse is a far superior device.

i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.

I think I'm pretty much set with the Infuse.
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.

Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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h8rift said:
The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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OMG LOL. Epic fail. I knew something was up with that phone. LOL
Sent from my Infuse 4G.

Transformer27 said:
Even then with Dual core, blur should be able to run really snappy.
but it doesn't. only real thing that i see dual core has to provide are better graphics in games.
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the infuse gpu can keep up with some kernel tweaks and api support for tegra based games. the sgs renders some things better(not sure if that's true in a technical sense but certain benchmarks look more natueral) and in most cases can run similar frame rates, some overclocking and the sgx power vr540 gpu is a beast. dual core helps in games that are written for dual core especially if it uses tegra2 specific APIs, chainfire's chainfire 3d may help with that situation.
and well dual core would only help with lag caused by multi tasking. a laggy launcher on a single core may be just as laggy on a dual core(unless it is multi threaded), but a snappy launcher may lag if there is a background service running on a single core but is not likely lag to on a dual core even with background services. i guess i wasnt specific enough.
i guess im only reinforcing the idea that dual core is marketing nonsense because unless you are a multi tasking junkie you wont notice a bit of difference 90% of the time.

h8rift said:
The best part is that kholk found while working on the bootloader that the Atrix kernel only loads one core on boot....lol....
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a large portion of the boot process is probably in one large thread making dual core useless untill the ui starts. though having the core ready would mean you could start playing with things while the ui is still loading making the wait for everything to load less annoying.

Dani897 said:
i was speaking in theory about the lag. blur is a piece of crap. that and locked bootloaders are why i wont buy it. i dont mind limited development as long as i can get things the way i want them, lack of ability to flash roms seems like too much of a hinderance in getting the phone setup the way i want it. i will look at the attain, but with the audio issues im may wait for a while before i buy another phone.
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What are the audio issues on the attain?

nstong said:
What are the audio issues on the attain?
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well the attain isnt tested yet, maybe i should have said sgs2. if the attain is the same as the sgs2 international supercurio wasnt very happy with the audio, and audio is important to me. it has a yamaha chip not a wolfson. not that yamaha is bad but it appears that the chip may be faulty or something. also wolfson was very cooperative in providing drivers and sources for supercurio's voodoo project. im sure it actually sounds good with the exception of the noise level. there are some clicking or popping issues from what i understand. i use in ear headphones and im sure id be able t to hear it.

Transformer27 said:
I was checking the Samsung Galaxy S website
i have these comparisons
Samsung Galaxy S 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.00" Super AMOLED
Camera: 5.0 MP rear VGA front
Processor: 1.0 Mhz
Samsung Infuse 4G:
Android Platform: 2.2
Display: 4.50" Super AMOLED Plus
Camera: 8.0 MP rear 1.2MP front
Processor: 1.2Ghz
and this device is not capable of being a Galaxy S device?
i think this phone has been ripped from it title.
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Just making sure about this, but you do mean a 1.0 Ghz processor on Galaxy S right? lol

my bad yeah. furious typing at the moment of doing the list. lol

can I have some advice?

Guys ive been reading on net bout android phone ive been wanting to buy sgs3 but when I saw some forum saying quadcore is useless on sgs3 that its better having dual core and now I saw Xperia tx verion that won benchmark test that saying has better performance that sgs3 so guys what is the phone?
For me im into gaming RPG on android phone and net surfing music etc

I'm pretty sure only the international sgs3 has a quad core... but I may be wrong on that.
As far as cpu performance goes, I prefer the tegra processors over the snapdragons. LG optimus hd has one of these in a quad core version available oversees.
This isnt about opinions though, trust the benchmark results.
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Well it really depends on what you feel. Benchmarks are pointless. only real world use matters. I would give up the quad core for the 2gb of ram the US Moslem comes with but for gaming the spores line is your best bet as those are gaming devices
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Eh same could've been said about dual core when it first popped up for us. Its more about taking advantage of the cores that's the situation. Later versions of android are surely to take full capacity of the cores as more and more phones adopt. As for the phone, the gs3 is perfect for gaming, media, browsing ect. Although its plastic, the way its shipped makes it comfortable to hold in the hand
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The best overall performance for a phone has to be the Galaxy S3. It comes with a Snapdragon S4, which is an entirely NEW architecture. That means snapdragon is half a generation ahead of the tegra 3 and exynos 4 in terms of cpu design. The only drawback of the S4 is its gpu, as it only has an adreno 225, which is a slight upgrade from it's old gpu. Otherwise the Galaxy S3 is still a powerhouse.
As for gaming, the Tegra 3 has a slight edge due to NVIDIA forming partnerships with game developers and they optimize some games to run well on the tegra 3.
http://androidandme.com/2012/05/sma...erformance-gpu-battery-life-and-web-browsing/
Overall, real-performance is the almost the same for both phones, One X and GSIII, but with a slight edge to the GSIII for its superior S4.

i think sgs3 dual core version with 2gb ram wont be released in europe i only saw in italy is quadcore with 1gb ram T_T but ithink 1g ram is still good coz my father has sgs2 ^^
so if we will base on experience sgs3 is still the best ill gonna save a bit more for that phone XD

Anything Krait is good, the S4 is a very capable chip. The quad pro version will be a beast.
Exynos is fast as well, Nvidia is better for gaming. But it also depends on how well the manufacturers optimise their software to run on the hardware.
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Xperia TX. Go for it. No TouchWiz, better camera and design. Jelly Bean almost after launch.

it is very important to know if it is quad or dual cored. If it is quad then it will run faster because there is less stress on the cpu, then if it was dual. but, honestly, i ahve been using my droid incredible for a very long time. This is a 1 GHZ single core cpu and i use it heavily. i play n64 games on it without over clocking (the max cpu is like 1134 mhz, but i set it to about 600mhz and i can play with absolutely no lag.) so, what i am saying is that it doesn't matter if it is dual or quad cored because it is fast enough already. but, i know the international version, or at least the one i saw in india when i went there for vacation is quad. i think the USA version is quad as well. and btw, i have played with it. it's a great phone. the display is beautiful. the battery life is amazing. flash a kernel on it and i think you can run for 2-3 days with light/medium use in a single charge. go get that phone!

International galaxy s3 is quad core with 1gb a ram and is 1.4ghz which can be over clocked to 1.7ghz. I have an international galaxy s3 as I am from UK.
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quad core might not be fully usable at the moment but it will get better.
the main thing is the i9300 (international version) will have far more vast support then any carrier specific models us versions.

Benchamrk results are not that important
Get the S3 because its good for gaming with bigger screen and nice comfy shape :good:

carlo242 said:
Guys ive been reading on net bout android phone ive been wanting to buy sgs3 but when I saw some forum saying quadcore is useless on sgs3 that its better having dual core and now I saw Xperia tx verion that won benchmark test that saying has better performance that sgs3 so guys what is the phone?
For me im into gaming RPG on android phone and net surfing music etc
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I am also looking at getting a new phone. I am leaning towards a quadcore because I tend to have phones for a while. (Still rocking my captivate...) I figure that even though applications are not optimized for the quadcore yet, they will be in the future, which means I can make use of the phone for longer without feeling the need that I "have" to upgrade.

[Q] ZOPO ZP980? Anyone?

Hello everyone.
I was surfing the web yesterday and I discovered pretty weird android phone and wanted to share it with you guy. I don't know if you have heard about the phone ZOPO ZP980. If yes, please can you provide with more info, because i couldn't find any benchmarks or additional info.
So, the phone is 5 inch, Full HD, 13.1MP + 5MP front camera.
It has some kind of 4core CPU: MTK MT65891.2GHz, Cortex-A7 quad-core
GPU: Power VR SGX544
It looks pretty handsome and I kind of like it
It comes with 4/16GB ROM and 1GB RAM + sdCard support.
The best part is that it costs only 250$
So, everything looks like a high end expensive spartphone. But sounds too good to be true, so whats the problem with it?
I don't know what to expect from that phone as it is made in china. But sounds pretty cool.
Here's the official website link: http://www.zopomobileshop.com/en/10...d-13-mp-camera-mt6589-android-smartphone.html
Do you know about this phone? May be anyone owns it? Can you provide more info?

toka1232010 said:
Hello everyone.
I was surfing the web yesterday and I discovered pretty weird android phone and wanted to share it with you guy. I don't know if you have heard about the phone ZOPO ZP980. If yes, please can you provide with more info, because i couldn't find any benchmarks or additional info.
So, the phone is 5 inch, Full HD, 13.1MP + 5MP front camera.
It has some kind of 4core CPU: MTK MT65891.2GHz, Cortex-A7 quad-core
GPU: Power VR SGX544
It looks pretty handsome and I kind of like it
It comes with 4/16GB ROM and 1GB RAM + sdCard support.
The best part is that it costs only 250$
So, everything looks like a high end expensive spartphone. But sounds too good to be true, so whats the problem with it?
I don't know what to expect from that phone as it is made in china. But sounds pretty cool.
Here's the official website link: http://www.zopomobileshop.com/en/10...d-13-mp-camera-mt6589-android-smartphone.html
Do you know about this phone? May be anyone owns it? Can you provide more info?
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It is a cool phone, but there are tons or articles AND youtube hands on reviews of this phone so I can;t believe you didn't find any info.
http://www.gizchina.com/komper.php?target=&kpids=16
Keep in mind its currently available for purchase now, but with 1gb ram, they are releasing a premium version with 2gb/32gb rom ram very soon:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.494882840561689.1073741827.426235970759710&type=3

Zopo is good phone

toka1232010 said:
Hello everyone.
I was surfing the web yesterday and I discovered pretty weird android phone and wanted to share it with you guy. I don't know if you have heard about the phone ZOPO ZP980. If yes, please can you provide with more info, because i couldn't find any benchmarks or additional info.
So, the phone is 5 inch, Full HD, 13.1MP + 5MP front camera.
It has some kind of 4core CPU: MTK MT65891.2GHz, Cortex-A7 quad-core
GPU: Power VR SGX544
It looks pretty handsome and I kind of like it
It comes with 4/16GB ROM and 1GB RAM + sdCard support.
The best part is that it costs only 250$
So, everything looks like a high end expensive spartphone. But sounds too good to be true, so whats the problem with it?
I don't know what to expect from that phone as it is made in china. But sounds pretty cool.
Here's the official website link: http://www.zopomobileshop.com/en/10...d-13-mp-camera-mt6589-android-smartphone.html
Do you know about this phone? May be anyone owns it? Can you provide more info?
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zopo zp980 13mp camera vs iphone 5
http://forum.zopomobileshop.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=188&fromuid=13374
zopo zp980 review gps skype camera sim card 3g review
http://forum.zopomobileshop.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=248&fromuid=13374
I hope it useful

lands rizumm
Zopo 980 is actually a really good device for those looking to switch from iPhone. It's obviously physically similar - making it easier to adjust versus typical phablet type devices.
Try the Official Zopo 980 Product Page for more details.

There is already a thread @xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234265
I have it, nice phone, but still some bugs even in the newer roms.

amacg said:
Zopo 980 is actually a really good device for those looking to switch from iPhone. It's obviously physically similar - making it easier to adjust versus typical phablet type devices.
Try the Official Zopo 980 Product Page for more details.
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Thanks for responce. I wonder how it actually works in everyday use? I have galaxy S3, can you compare them? How about graphics, benchmarks etc?

toka1232010 said:
Hello everyone.
I was surfing the web yesterday and I discovered pretty weird android phone and wanted to share it with you guy. I don't know if you have heard about the phone ZOPO ZP980. If yes, please can you provide with more info, because i couldn't find any benchmarks or additional info.
So, the phone is 5 inch, Full HD, 13.1MP + 5MP front camera.
It has some kind of 4core CPU: MTK MT65891.2GHz, Cortex-A7 quad-core
GPU: Power VR SGX544
It looks pretty handsome and I kind of like it
It comes with 4/16GB ROM and 1GB RAM + sdCard support.
The best part is that it costs only 250$
So, everything looks like a high end expensive spartphone. But sounds too good to be true, so whats the problem with it?
I don't know what to expect from that phone as it is made in china. But sounds pretty cool.
Here's the official website link: http://www.zopomobileshop.com/en/10...d-13-mp-camera-mt6589-android-smartphone.html
Do you know about this phone? May be anyone owns it? Can you provide more info?
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I was in the market too for this phone, but in the end I decided otherwise. I've ordered the UMi X2T.
Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEzLsxd178 you have some extra info.

Been using the Zopo C2 (1Gb Ram 4Gb ROM) for the last 2 weeks. Frankly love the phone. The display is just amazing. 441 PPI.My colleagues have HTC One n Butterfly n Samsung S4 the display is just as good if not better viewing angles are amazing too. I've been playing Subway surfers n temple run with out any lag. Heavy games like Contract killer2 which gets stuck on my S3, works seamlessly on this. Antutu benchmark is a little under 12k. For the price $220 its much more than worth its price.
Rhut Patel
Zopo 980 C2
HTC HD2
HTC Desire
Samsung S3
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Hello
I am thinking about buying the Zopo 980 2gb ram version.
Is the software stable? Are their OTA updates for ZOPO?
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The thread new zp980 is open again!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2234265&page=94
Many thanks to the moderators!

GOCLEVER FONE 450 - 4,5" HD IPS, 1GHz dual core, 1GB, 5MPx budget Android smartphone

GOCLEVER FONE 450 - 4,5" HD IPS, 1GHz dual core, 1GB, 5MPx budget Android smartphone
GOCLEVER FONE 450 - new super cheap Android phone, 2-3 times cheaper even than the Google Nexus 4, but still offers 4,5 inch HD IPS screen, dual core CPU, GPS and all other features.
4,5" HD IPS-LCD 1280x720 pixels
MediaTek MT6577 1GHz (Dual Core Cortex A9, GPU SGX531)
1GB RAM
Android 4.1
5MPx camera, GPS, Accelerometer.

I bought this phone for my wife instead of Samsung Duo S (which was laggy beyond reasonable) and so far she's very satisfied with it (oh yes, it's white). The display is gorgeous for this price tag, the overall speed is also a nice surprise. I also like the management of the 2 SIM's.
The down sides are:
- the battery capacity
- localization (to Slovak language in my case)
- the tech support told me it should get Android 4.3, but no ETA and honestly I'm quite sceptic about that
- lack of documentation that would enable to root it and install custom recovery
- GPS acts funny - sometimes it takes even 10 minutes to get a fix, sometimes it's matter of a few seconds
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Any way to root this terminal?

Fcinco said:
Any way to root this terminal?
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I'm afraid not. I tried all ways I was able to find for this processor family without luck. I also wrote the official GoClever tech support but they only confirmed me the root is not available for this phone. Shame, this phone phone would deserve it.
Btw. I'm going to send mine for repair - there's something seriously wrong with the phone (gsm?) module. There's around 30% chance that I receive or make a call even if the phone is normally connected to the network. Really annoying.
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How about the warranty?

mapl.ph said:
How about the warranty?
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What about the warranty? If you don't root the phone (which seems impossible at the moment), you cannot impact the warranty.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Srsroot.com should help.

Fcinco said:
Any way to root this terminal?
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Only through the MTK Droid Tools.

krylasov said:
Only through the MTK Droid Tools.
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Framaroot works flawlessly with ALL GoClever devices. Tested on 450Q, 570, Quantum 4, 400, 785 and Insignia 5 & 5X. Custom ROMs also work if you pay attention to the chipset.

Originalas said:
GOCLEVER FONE 450 - new super cheap Android phone, 2-3 times cheaper even than the Google Nexus 4, but still offers 4,5 inch HD IPS screen, dual core CPU, GPS and all other features.
4,5" HD IPS-LCD 1280x720 pixels
MediaTek MT6577 1GHz (Dual Core Cortex A9, GPU SGX531)
1GB RAM
Android 4.1
5MPx camera, GPS, Accelerometer.
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I'll have to correct you a bit: it has an 8MPx camera (although it says 5 on it, it's a factory error) and it's a Quad-Core.
GPS is crap, there's a fix for that though.
I can provide original stock Android ROM and flashing tools per request. Used to be Goclever's product manager.

[Resolved] Need input

Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
Sorry guys, there was a device suggestion thread...

Soapy! said:
Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
Sorry guys, there was a device suggestion thread...
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well since the moto g is out of the picture, i think one of the many BLU phones would be good for you, i have heard good and bad reports about the battery, most of them have 1g or higher gigs of RAM, its seems that lots of their devices (even with small screens) have a great cpu clocked at 1.5ghz dual core or bigger, i think most of their phones are 4.2 and up. lots of choices with 4.5" and up. as for development support, i think they only have root.

Trozzul said:
well since the moto g is out of the picture, i think one of the many BLU phones would be good for you, i have heard good and bad reports about the battery, most of them have 1g or higher gigs of RAM, its seems that lots of their devices (even with small screens) have a great cpu clocked at 1.5ghz dual core or bigger, i think most of their phones are 4.2 and up. lots of choices with 4.5" and up. as for development support, i think they only have root.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Though, I have heard of the blu phone series (life, studio, etc.) but there are many negative reviews on them and the ones that are mostly positive are supposedly framed. So, from what I heard was that some of these BLU labelled phones come DOA, other complaints relate to dead pixels, insta-brick (after a week or so of moderate to heavy usage), unresponsive touchscreens, and of course as you stated, battery life.

Soapy! said:
Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
Sorry guys, there was a device suggestion thread...
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I was stuck in the exactly same position. But I also needed a removable battery and an external micro SD card slot. So the moto g was not a good candidate. I ended up going with the optimus f7. It has specs similar to gs3. You should check out the reviews and see what you think.
Sent from my LG-LG870 using xda app-developers app

jmindset said:
I was stuck in the exactly same position. But I also needed a removable battery and an external micro SD card slot. So the moto g was not a good candidate. I ended up going with the optimus f7. It has specs similar to gs3. You should check out the reviews and see what you think.
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Ahhh yes, I forgot to include external microsd expansion capabilities. Oh yes and thanks, the F7 may not have good dev support but I guess root access is all I need. All I'm really planning to install is Su, viperfx, and some closed modules. Also btw is it possible to skip the boost mobile activation process?

Soapy! said:
Ahhh yes, I forgot to include external microsd expansion capabilities. Oh yes and thanks, the F7 may not have good dev support but I guess root access is all I need. All I'm really planning to install is Su, viperfx, and some closed modules. Also btw is it possible to skip the boost mobile activation process?
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Yeah it is, i learned that when i bought the stupidest phone in the world -_- LG Venice.

Soo.. Yeahh.. I do like the F7's colorful notification light, its 4.7 inch display, and its "4G" capabilities for now... There will always be new contenders to take the belt but for now, Thank You for your help!

Soapy! said:
Soo.. Yeahh.. I do like the F7's colorful notification light, its 4.7 inch display, and its "4G" capabilities for now... There will always be new contenders to take the belt but for now, Thank You for your help!
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Enjoy! I to am using an f7. There is an awesome rom that I'm using that I highly recommend. If you got any questions ask me or check out the androidforums f7 threads. Xda doesn't have much f7 support but androidforums has a bunch!
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Soapy! said:
Hey guys, I need some on trying to find an android phone for about $200. I've already looked up the Moto G and unfortunately it didn't meet up to my total expectations. I am looking for a device that has:
A 4.5 - 5 inch Display with about 720p HD Capabilities and maybe around 250 - 330 PPI.
Dual or Quad Core Processor (Starting from 1.2Ghz and please try not to post any mediatek cpus)
512 - 2GB of Ram
Good internal storage for some apps.
Android OS 4.1.2 - 4.4 KitKat
Good battery life (something that would last for about a day or so)
Stable.. Smooth (No Chinese Generics)
At least some support from the dev. community.
Any help would be much appreciated. thanks!
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Try Sony xperia M my frirnd
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