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Coming from the Nexus 5x and there are many Oreo roms..so i was wondering why there ist noch Oreo Rom for the Pixel..? And dont get me wrong..i have no problem with that..Just wonderering
With Kind regards
Ah..OK..after some reading..the first step is not really good finished yet..custom Recovery and root.
Wow..never was thinking that root and other stuff will be so complicated as on an iPhone to get it Jailbreaked
Are we in the point that google want that we just use our phones..?
Then we dont need sources and others...
..sorry..but i must write it down here..and hope to get some answers..
.. because the way to get all things done..from the HTC desire (bravo with Android 1-2) till the Nexus 5x and Samsung s6 was always the same..and now this..
I have for sure some Experience to look behind some curtain..but atm i am a bit frustrated
Root is no problem, fastboot boot to TWRP and install it.
This phone is much more challenging than other handsets due to the fact Google has implemented dual booting partitions. It also seems they aren't as interested in the developer community now that they are making their own phones and not just putting out an OS for Android. So, this handset isn't as friendly for devs, except for those who are really into masochistic behavior (self punishment). If you're looking for a really robust developer community you probably should stick to Samsung or a few other manufacturers and avoid Google for the foreseeable future.
Just my thoughts.
Really unbelievable that there are no ROMs due to those issues.
Will sell my Pixel and keep my Nexus 6P
I'm thinking of selling my pixel and getting a oneplus 5, or waiting to see how the modding scene evolves for the razor phone.
Truly disappointed the pixel line didn't follow on from nexus devices.
I will do so.
Got my pixel used and defective, Google will replace it for free so I will be able to sell it as new.
Would it be possible to install substratum and xposed framework?
Thought of getting nexus 6p,but bought the pixel thinking that it would get more development..
now I'm regretting that decision..?
I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
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I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
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for that ..S-off is needed..but a great idea through
Really funny how things have changed. It wasn't that long ago that if you wanted a phone that was easy to root, and had tons of developers, with tons of ROM options, you got a Nexus. Now that the Pixels are here, it's just the opposite.
The only saving grace is Google will continue supporting the pixel until October 2019 so I'm not going to be stranded with a phone I can't update.
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
y2grae said:
Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
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Quite a few devices are getting both official and unofficial 8.0 updates. As far as 8.1 I'm pretty sure it's still in beta so it's only available for the Google family of devices as there is no way to look into the source of the beta and try to compile it for other phones.
There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
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There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
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Can you share a link where I can find the OMNIROM you are actually runningp please ?
Thank you !
vlucchetti said:
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
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How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
Sui77 said:
How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
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I miss my 6P, thought it was an awesome phone but the battery issue SOT of 2 hours after 2 years was killing me. Got the XL as a warranty replacement for virtually nothing, so it was a win-win.
Once the custom roms roll out, it will rival or exceed the 6P, I have no doubt.
Hello,
Which one of these phones would be the better one to buy in terms of rooting, modding, customizing etc. ?
Does one support more mods than the other or they pretty much the same? Also would like support for Xposed framework.
Thanks
kaotik123 said:
Hello,
Which one of these phones would be the better one to buy in terms of rooting, modding, customizing etc. ?
Does one support more mods than the other or they pretty much the same? Also would like support for Xposed framework.
Thanks
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5T currently has more support for this. There is not much difference in their price. But 6 will eventually get more support later by time(Like custom roms but it already has many custom kernels available).
Ok yeah that's what I thought. But if I was to get OnePlus 6 and roll it back to nougat, would it be just as good as the 5T for customization or is it the hardware in the 6 that limits it?
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Ok yeah that's what I thought. But if I was to get OnePlus 6 and roll it back to nougat, would it be just as good as the 5T for customization or is it the hardware in the 6 that limits it?
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Oneplus 6 is released with oreo, u cannot put nougat on it.
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Oneplus 6 is released with oreo, u cannot put nougat on it.
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Oh it isn't possible to flash a Nougat firmware on the 6?
Also, is xposed worth installing or can you find the same or similar modules as an apk these days? Xposed will also break safetynet too yeah?
I didn't installed xposed, I am running no limits rom.
No it is not possible maby u can build it but I have no idea.
Its all different because treble partitions, also qualcomm did not release the sources for the 845 processor. So aosp development is not active only on treble based roms are available but I have no experience with it.
But it will come with the time, the device is just 5 weeks ago released.
When qualcomm decide to release the sources the rom development will come.
Seems the new a-b slots made it much more difficult for devs, only omni as an custom rom today. Much worse than for 5t after same time span.
Seems Lineage is picking put the 5T, that can change the custom rom scene.
Treble has been an disappointment until now, no real benefit for op6
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Seems the new a-b slots made it much more difficult for devs, only omni as an custom rom today. Much worse than for 5t after same time span.
Seems Lineage is picking put the 5T, that can change the custom rom scene.
Treble has been an disappointment until now, no real benefit for op6
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The point of project treble isn't for custom ROM support but for being able to be on the developer previews of unreleased, upcoming Android versions which will enable the OEM (our case OnePlus) to be able to update our phones much much faster.
That's the benefit.
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OT5 is simple life (old partition system) and no notch, but an old model already. OT6 has a notch and the damned A/B partitions, but brand new, with OIS, a bit better cameras tho the secondary camera on the back is just to help the main one...
The problem is that the 5T price isn't going down.
I've had almost every Nexus phone and the Pixel 2 XL and 3 XL, I've also owned the OnePlus One and 3T.
The Nexus phones, and those older OnePlus's were easy as cake to root, and very simple to flash ROM's and maintain. But something changed a couple years ago with the Pixel phones, rooting became a bit more complicated and ROM'ing them seemed vastly different, and not so fast and straightforward as a Nexus or OnePlus . The Pixel phones need the Vendor .img, and had partitions, etc...I am not a fan, and miss the old Nexus ROM'ing.
Question is the OnePlus 7 Pro more like the old Nexus and OnePlus One, ease of rooting and ROM'ing, or is it like the newer Pixel's and more complicated?
Zorachus said:
I've had almost every Nexus phone and the Pixel 2 XL and 3 XL, I've also owned the OnePlus One and 3T.
The Nexus phones, and those older OnePlus's were easy as cake to root, and very simple to flash ROM's and maintain. But something changed a couple years ago with the Pixel phones, rooting became a bit more complicated and ROM'ing them seemed vastly different, and not so fast and straightforward as a Nexus or OnePlus . The Pixel phones need the Vendor .img, and had partitions, etc...I am not a fan, and miss the old Nexus ROM'ing.
Question is the OnePlus 7 Pro more like the old Nexus and OnePlus One, ease of rooting and ROM'ing, or is it like the newer Pixel's and more complicated?
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We are just now starting to get AOSP ROMs I think the only thing is is people are having Trouble with the pop-up camera other than that I think that's it it should be the same as the OnePlus 6t
Closer to the Pixel. Closest modern phone like the Nexus might be the v30 in terms of flashing, or anything without dual slot.
You have to remain mindful when dealing with A/B devices, though the steps aren't difficult. Sure some convey them in a convoluted sense, but it's fairly simple to deal with otherwise: just read the directions carefully and nothing bad should happen!
Thanks, so it seems all Android phones have changed in recent years to have these A and B partitions now? And we need the vendor .img when flashing ROM's, and have these extra steps now, etc...?
So the old days of easy fast ROM flashing like the original OnePlus One, or Nexus 5 are over?
Hello,
my last rooted phone was the s3 many years ago. That aside, tomorrow marks the 3rd day I've had my Oneplus 8 5G. I seen a post where a guy will unlock your bootloader (which I will message him about). I was looking around to see what roms exist and it looks like there isn't many if any at all. There used to be tons for the s3. what happened? is the oneplus 8 not popular for rooting or something.
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Hello,
my last rooted phone was the s3 many years ago. That aside, tomorrow marks the 3rd day I've had my Oneplus 8 5G. I seen a post where a guy will unlock your bootloader (which I will message him about). I was looking around to see what roms exist and it looks like there isn't many if any at all. There used to be tons for the s3. what happened? is the oneplus 8 not popular for rooting or something.
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No, it's just the time for users to enjoy 3 years of oxygenOS update. Android 11 will come sooner for OEM, ROMs are a bit slower.
Plus it's special with OnePlus devices. We could call OOS a custom ROM with all the customizations features it offers. And trust me, it's not funny to flash a ROM on your device right away, take the time to be fed up with the UI/UX, then flash something.
To answer your question, ROMs are coming, but later. We already have unofficial LOS and official Paranoid Android (one if the best ROM out there to me). And we have a lot of kernel (proof that what we need for now isn't to modify the ROM, only maybe the kernel). But it'll sure come !
most likely after android 11 is released. currently in my opinion android 10 is quite stable.
In actuality it is because of the way that android 10 changes file systems and the ways you can interact with them. For a huge example, most phones that shipped with Android 9 or before can install twrp (if available). Phones that ship with Android 10 (and presumably 11 in the future) cannot, because for now, twrp is in a semi functional state, but many important things are broken. Like the ability to modify the system partition. Which is essential to installing a custom rom.
I am currently on an iPhone and I want to jump back to Android, and I've been following the Pixel 7 Pro. It looks pretty promising and the fact I can get a free watch seems pretty good!
How rootable are Pixels, since I do enjoy certain benefits of rooting such as system-wide AdBlock and just having full control over MY phone (something that is direly lacking in iOS haha).
Previous Pixels were easy to root, and there are several ways to update rooted devices without losing data. I'd suggest to look at a guide from the P6 Pro to make yourself comfortable with the tools and knowledge you require to work with a rooted Pixel.
Here is a great guide from V0latyle that I have used many times, but there are more in the various XDA sub forums:
[GUIDE] Pixel 6 Pro "raven": Unlock Bootloader, Update, Root, Pass SafetyNet
⚠️⚠️⚠️ WARNING! IF YOU ARE UPDATING TO ANDROID 13 FOR THE FIRST TIME, READ THIS FIRST!⚠️⚠️⚠️ If you are looking for my guide on a different Pixel, find it here: Pixel 3 Pixel 3XL Pixel 3a Pixel 3aXL Pixel 4 Pixel 4XL Pixel 4a Pixel 4a (5G)...
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I would say that it's relatively easy to root pixel devices. Bootloader unlock has been on every pixel phone. The pixel 7 has not been rooted yet, so the jury is out on that, but I bet it will be fairly easy.
Saying that, here is the instructions for the pixel 6 pro which are relatively easy to root.
Pixel 6 pro rooting
Yeh, usually really good root guide's!
Thanks for your replies guys, I placed my order now! Free LTE watch as well!
Annie the Eagle said:
Thanks for your replies guys, I placed my order now! Free LTE watch as well!
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Make sure you get the unlocked version from Google and not a carrier phone. Carriers like to lock the bootloader of their phones.
Annie the Eagle said:
I am currently on an iPhone and I want to jump back to Android, and I've been following the Pixel 7 Pro. It looks pretty promising and the fact I can get a free watch seems pretty good!
How rootable are Pixels, since I do enjoy certain benefits of rooting such as system-wide AdBlock and just having full control over MY phone (something that is direly lacking in iOS haha).
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extremely easy, takes less than a few minutes
Annie the Eagle said:
I am currently on an iPhone and I want to jump back to Android, and I've been following the Pixel 7 Pro. It looks pretty promising and the fact I can get a free watch seems pretty good!
How rootable are Pixels, since I do enjoy certain benefits of rooting such as system-wide AdBlock and just having full control over MY phone (something that is direly lacking in iOS haha).
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This is why I went from the iPhone 3gs to Android. System ad blocking and tethering provision bypassing since 2009.
rester555 said:
Make sure you get the unlocked version from Google and not a carrier phone. Carriers like to lock the bootloader of their phones.
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Some more than others. AT&T is unlockable once it's SIM unlocked. T-Mo's requires as server side unlock. On Verizon you're just screwed.
The factory unlocked will be the least hassle if use their financing or are willing to pay up front. Otherwise, you'll have to find other means to unlock AT&T or T-Mo versions.
would we expect to see a similar process for P7P to P6P?
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would we expect to see a similar process for P7P to P6P?
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Yes
You should be somewhat familiar with the manual procedure, but there's a wonderful tool for rooting/flashing/upgrading. Ive only half joked in the past that this tool will keep me a Pixel customer for life!
📳🔥 PixelFlasher, a GUI tool for flashing / updating / rooting / managing Pixel phones.
DESCRIPTION As the name suggests this is an application to flash (update) Pixel™ phones (possibly all Google™ made phones/tablets, YMMV.) PixelFlasher at its core is a UI layer (with bells and whistles) on top of adb / fastboot commands, hence...
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Can't speak for other Pixels as this is the first I've owned, but the 7 Pro is very easy to root. Received mine in the post yesterday around 1230, it was rooted by 1330. I have unrooted and relocked the bootloader now as I decided I'd rather have OTA updates working, but it's one of the easier phones I've rooted.
Annie the Eagle said:
I am currently on an iPhone and I want to jump back to Android, and I've been following the Pixel 7 Pro. It looks pretty promising and the fact I can get a free watch seems pretty good!
How rootable are Pixels, since I do enjoy certain benefits of rooting such as system-wide AdBlock and just having full control over MY phone (something that is direly lacking in iOS haha).
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Super easy. You need a PC, USB cable, and just follow the guide here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...gain-all-relevant-links.4502805/post-87540339
Annie the Eagle said:
I am currently on an iPhone and I want to jump back to Android, and I've been following the Pixel 7 Pro. It looks pretty promising and the fact I can get a free watch seems pretty good!
How rootable are Pixels, since I do enjoy certain benefits of rooting such as system-wide AdBlock and just having full control over MY phone (something that is direly lacking in iOS haha).
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Coming from OnePlus, where I could root with my eyes closed, the process for rooting Pixel looks complicated as ****
Rooting pixels is taking no more than 2 minutes