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Hi there guys, i want to ask if somebody can create a template for Nokia 3 without using a launcher. Or if possible, to create a modified ROM that is able to slide the apps from menu horizontally and not vertically, if it possible to remove the apps border from the home menu, if it possible to remove the white background in menu with an wallpaper, and to show the rounded icons.
Here is my idea:
prntscr.com/gx9tf9
prntscr.com/gx9tnd
Any help is appreciated by entire Nokia 3 community.
Why not use a launcher?
PreetyFlash said:
Hi there guys, i want to ask if somebody can create a template for Nokia 3 without using a launcher. Or if possible, to create a modified ROM that is able to slide the apps from menu horizontally and not vertically, if it possible to remove the apps border from the home menu, if it possible to remove the white background in menu with an wallpaper, and to show the rounded icons.
Here is my idea:
prntscr.com/gx9tf9
prntscr.com/gx9tnd
Any help is appreciated by entire Nokia 3 community.
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Hey, Friend, I have Desktop for ROM building, i know how to build, but, on Google i can't find any source code of this phone, i have Nokia 3 too, and I don't think it is possible to mod or Modify ROM! Any Ideas?
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Just thinking out loud....MIUI ROM development would be very much appreciated. I've always imagined nokia with miui running it.
Rudroid00 said:
Just thinking out loud....MIUI ROM development would be very much appreciated. I've always imagined nokia with miui running it.
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miui is very hard to port, lineageos/rr/aosp is easier to port. We need to find ROM with same specs (same CPU, same GPU, same RAM) or similar specs. Just port ROM need to have same kernel version as stock ROM (3.18.35+ for Nougat or 3.18.60+ for Oreo).
I think because of the regularity of updates, people are less concerned about custom roms. At last I am less concerned about them. It says something when i'll rather stick with the stock recovery than with a custom one
Nokia 3 (TA-1032) Turn on recover mode and unlock Bootloader
I have Android Oreo on My Nokia Phone.
Anyone Help me to unlock my bootloader and turn on recovery mode to my Nokia 3 (TA-1032)
redweaver said:
I think because of the regularity of updates, people are less concerned about custom roms. At last I am less concerned about them. It says something when i'll rather stick with the stock recovery than with a custom one
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i only care about custom roms because nokia stock roms are bad in performance because of a lot of system apps (deleting some system apps helped but still it's not that good) and a lot of RAM usage.
RootingPro-18 said:
Hey, Friend, I have Desktop for ROM building, i know how to build, but, on Google i can't find any source code of this phone, i have Nokia 3 too, and I don't think it is possible to mod or Modify ROM! Any Ideas?
Sent from my HUAWEI ALE-L21 using XDA Labs
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It's out now
Thank you
Nikola Jovanovic said:
It's out now
Thank you
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I do not own Nokia 3!
RootingPro-18 said:
I do not own Nokia 3!
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Yeah I remember you said you sold the one you had
Need nokia to share some Source of Kernel or it official rom , and then someone could work it out
Invantion261 said:
Need nokia to share some Source of Kernel or it official rom , and then someone could work it out
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It's mentioned in another Nokia 3 thread here on XDA that the kernel and source codes ect are already available......
Here's the thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-3/how-to/nokia-3-kernel-source-availble-t3791637
Kernel source is out for nokia 3
why there is no development on Nokia 3
even when the kernel source is released and bootloader is unlockable now
tech2update said:
why there is no development on Nokia 3
even when the kernel source is released and bootloader is unlockable now
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Probably because there is no development on other Nokia devices either?
Someone has asked for MIUI on the Nokia 3.
Why?
MIUI is absolutely terrible and not something I want to see or use.
I really think because of Nokia's almost stock android no one can really be bothered to develop them right now.
I might be wrong and would love to see a lineage or AOSP ROM but why bother if we are getting android P eventually? (As announced by Nokia / HMD a few weeks ago)
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Probably because there is no development on other Nokia devices either?
Someone has asked for MIUI on the Nokia 3.
Why?
MIUI is absolutely terrible and not something I want to see or use.
I really think because of Nokia's almost stock android no one can really be bothered to develop them right now.
I might be wrong and would love to see a lineage or AOSP ROM but why bother if we are getting android P eventually? (As announced by Nokia / HMD a few weeks ago)
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There Are Many Unwanted Apps And Blots In Nokia Stock Ui And Battery Performance Is Very Poor.
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There Are Many Unwanted Apps And Blots In Nokia Stock Ui And Battery Performance Is Very Poor.
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Unwanted apps? Name them? I don't have any unwanted or unnecessary apps, I have what I want and need and no bloat.
The stock UI is the best I've ever used, and battery is much better since the Oreo update.
I'll admit it was very poor running nougat.
Name me another cheap android device that getting updated to android P and gets regular Google security updates guaranteed for two years?
There isn't many......
Obviously your opinion is totally respected but I can only tell you I'm happy with my device as it is, no other device I've had recently gives me such a lag free or problematic time as the Nokia does, it's flawless (to me)
I do notice many complaints about the Nokia 3 though, so others must be using their device differently or more heavily than I do.
Anyway, what's that got to do with this discussion?
If no other Nokia devices are being actively developed do you really honestly think someone is going to start just because you think it has alot of unnecessary apps installed or the battery is poor?
No, of course not.
If there was a lineage or AOSP ROM I would use it, definitely.
I have a device on lineage 15.1 and it's very good.....
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If no one is interested in developing this device then it won't happen, whatever you or me think.
bubba1601 said:
The stock UI is the best I've ever used, and battery is much better since the Oreo update.
I'll admit it was very poor running nougat.
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Agree, it's really nice. I compared it to my Axon 7 and of course Axon 7 is faster but surprisingly Nokia 3 kept apps in multitasking same as Axon 7 and battery is much better. Battery is very good with both Oreo and Nougat.
I think the fact that there are regular updates is another reason why people aren't so charged up about custom roms.
I think lineage is still on 7.x, nokia 3 is on 8.x and will probably reach 9.x well before Lineage.
Also, if the source code had been available last year when the phones where still new, custom roms might have been made, but now it has become last year's phone.
Some of us also remember the hoops we had to go through just to unlock the bootloader.
Maybe when they no longer release updates for the phone, if it's still popular enough, people might start to develop again
Coming from the Nexus 5x and there are many Oreo roms..so i was wondering why there ist noch Oreo Rom for the Pixel..? And dont get me wrong..i have no problem with that..Just wonderering
With Kind regards
Ah..OK..after some reading..the first step is not really good finished yet..custom Recovery and root.
Wow..never was thinking that root and other stuff will be so complicated as on an iPhone to get it Jailbreaked
Are we in the point that google want that we just use our phones..?
Then we dont need sources and others...
..sorry..but i must write it down here..and hope to get some answers..
.. because the way to get all things done..from the HTC desire (bravo with Android 1-2) till the Nexus 5x and Samsung s6 was always the same..and now this..
I have for sure some Experience to look behind some curtain..but atm i am a bit frustrated
Root is no problem, fastboot boot to TWRP and install it.
This phone is much more challenging than other handsets due to the fact Google has implemented dual booting partitions. It also seems they aren't as interested in the developer community now that they are making their own phones and not just putting out an OS for Android. So, this handset isn't as friendly for devs, except for those who are really into masochistic behavior (self punishment). If you're looking for a really robust developer community you probably should stick to Samsung or a few other manufacturers and avoid Google for the foreseeable future.
Just my thoughts.
Really unbelievable that there are no ROMs due to those issues.
Will sell my Pixel and keep my Nexus 6P
I'm thinking of selling my pixel and getting a oneplus 5, or waiting to see how the modding scene evolves for the razor phone.
Truly disappointed the pixel line didn't follow on from nexus devices.
I will do so.
Got my pixel used and defective, Google will replace it for free so I will be able to sell it as new.
Would it be possible to install substratum and xposed framework?
Thought of getting nexus 6p,but bought the pixel thinking that it would get more development..
now I'm regretting that decision..?
I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
acidspider said:
I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
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for that ..S-off is needed..but a great idea through
Really funny how things have changed. It wasn't that long ago that if you wanted a phone that was easy to root, and had tons of developers, with tons of ROM options, you got a Nexus. Now that the Pixels are here, it's just the opposite.
The only saving grace is Google will continue supporting the pixel until October 2019 so I'm not going to be stranded with a phone I can't update.
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
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Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
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Quite a few devices are getting both official and unofficial 8.0 updates. As far as 8.1 I'm pretty sure it's still in beta so it's only available for the Google family of devices as there is no way to look into the source of the beta and try to compile it for other phones.
There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
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There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
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Can you share a link where I can find the OMNIROM you are actually runningp please ?
Thank you !
vlucchetti said:
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
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How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
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How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
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I miss my 6P, thought it was an awesome phone but the battery issue SOT of 2 hours after 2 years was killing me. Got the XL as a warranty replacement for virtually nothing, so it was a win-win.
Once the custom roms roll out, it will rival or exceed the 6P, I have no doubt.
It really has been a while since all the major ones got an update. I am just asking, because I don't like the fact, that Honor pushes out phones every 3 months while abandoning older phones such as the Honor 8 and now to me it seems the same for the custom roms here on XDA. Well ok, an OREO custom ROM came out a few weeks ago, but it seems to have the same bugs as the Nougat ones (which are still not fixed?). I dont want to moan or something like that, but can anyone give some clarification on that (like: we are still working on our roms but wont publish updates before everything works 100%)?
this is the way its going to be with huawei. if you want custom rom support look elswhere. at least the new phones will get treble which will help with running custom roms but i would still recommend another brand.
Go an Android One Device a few weeks ago, sadly my screen broke overnight (dont know why and how) and had to send the phone back, got my money back because i dont wanted to wait till 2018 to get my replacement phone (Xiaomi Mi A1 imported). Looking for a new device right now, seems like except for the google phones, there isnt a brand which supports atleast two major OS updates and then continues to give devs custom rom support. Had my eye on the Nokia ones (they just said, that they want to open the bootloaders), but I dont know if a Snapdragon 430 would make me happy.
I've had Moto's for several years through the Moto G4 and custom rom availability was the best thing about Motorola phones. That said, Lenovo ruined Motorola and the Honor 8 is still better even without custom rom support. I would take my Honor 8 over the rom rich Moto any day.
Yes I read reviews.
I owned a Oneplus One years ago and I gave up waiting for an upgrade and bought something else.
I here that OnePlus is better at upgrading today than they were four years ago. Is this true ?
Like I said I read and I know OnePlus 6 has available an Oxygen Beta (Android Pie) but it has not been officially released ? Is true if I buy a device I may need to wait several months until they Officially release Android Pie.
Now I know you will say just run the Beta it is stable but here is the make of break question I need Android Pay and Wear OS. My experience tells me if I flash a Beta required apps like Android Pay and Wear OS may stop working.
If I buy today I think the safe thing will be to wait for Oxygen OS (Android Pie) to be released. Customer ROMs or Beta OS will break for sure Android Pay.
Other than hating to wait for official releases this device looks fine.
No wireless charging sucks but I can live without it.
The Pixel camera maybe better but I read the OnePlus 6 camera is not bad
The OnePlus 6T will be out in November but ..... THERE IS ALWAYS A NEW DEVICE around the corner. Wait for the OnePlus 6T..... oh but it a few months this will be released.
This device gives better value for the dollar.
Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
Official Pie has been released, you can already download the firmware and flash it.
As for updates and kernel source upload speed, the OP6 gets both the fastest among all devices I had.
As for taking pics, use the gcam port for great picture quality and the oos cam for [email protected] recording.
The Official build for Android pie has been released today which is nice as it took only about 1.5 months after Google released it themselves.
Thanks I jumped on a sale, and ordered one.
I am not even sure at this point I care about the Pixel, it may have a better camera but I am sure ordering the One Plus 6 I saved hundreds of dollars.
The OP 6T is set to be released in the next couple months. Unless you're in need of a headphone jack, I'd wait to get the latest version.
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Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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To each their own indeed. And it's not a ridiculous mantra.just as countless many others, I do prefer to be able to switch over countless amounts of phone but still have the same familiar, debloated and resource friendly UI. Having to learning all the different "UX"s gets pretty dull, as soon as ie Samsung gets settled with one, they change design language. And that, for me, is a deal breaker, I don't feel like having to relearn the same basics over and over, and where I usually have to install another AOSP based ROM on ie my Xperia, HTC or Samsung. Whilst the OnePlus just has the familiarity and non-rubbish feel to it that AOSP has. But don't get me wrong, as you said, to each their own, and if it wasn't for people like you that don't want the stock feel, we wouldn't have custom kernels and/or ROMs. And I've ran all the betas except ob3 and currently run the stable... And I've yet to run into any app not loading, crashing, or features not working as intended. But I would recommend not jumping on the bandwagon as I regret doing so, until there are some more data and user reviews of the stable branch. And I'm not trusting anyone doing a forum post not being previously recognized or a proper reviewer. The stable build is solid, but it's still early to tell.
So far there was plenty of choice between roms with each android version as the years went by. Android 8 got a lot, 9 a bit less but still plenty, 10 a lot again but 11 seems to be largely skipped (at least by the major big roms). As far as i know, there is only Lineage, Graphene, Tugapower, Kali Nethunter and that's it. (there is Havoc-OS too but it's not official and has barely any features)
Of course it's still better than nothing at all to keep the opo working so i'm very thankful to the devs for that. Even android 10 will be useful for a few more years (i'm currently on RR android 8 and no issues so far even now). TWRP had an update in may 2022 which was a nice surprise, so that's pretty cool at least.
Is there any indication at all that someone is working on android 12 for the opo?
Many rom builders nowadays have their own site now. Below i found a site some time ago that has a lot of them in one place to easily keep track if any progress happens:
OnePlus One ROMs Archives
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theunlockr.com
So far no major names like Resurrection Remix, Syberia, MSM-X, Havoc, Posp, among many others..
Correct me if i'm wrong. Maybe i missed something completely. Perhaps you guys have some interesting opinions aswell.
edit: not sure why mod moved it to here(i posted in general on purpose). it's not a technical problem but whatever, i guess knowing context is hard
edit2: even the galaxy s2 and s3 got android 12 now. If those devices can boot it, the opo (which is comparable so an s5) surely has to be capable enough. i hope someone out there is developing someting..