Coming from the Nexus 5x and there are many Oreo roms..so i was wondering why there ist noch Oreo Rom for the Pixel..? And dont get me wrong..i have no problem with that..Just wonderering
With Kind regards
Ah..OK..after some reading..the first step is not really good finished yet..custom Recovery and root.
Wow..never was thinking that root and other stuff will be so complicated as on an iPhone to get it Jailbreaked
Are we in the point that google want that we just use our phones..?
Then we dont need sources and others...
..sorry..but i must write it down here..and hope to get some answers..
.. because the way to get all things done..from the HTC desire (bravo with Android 1-2) till the Nexus 5x and Samsung s6 was always the same..and now this..
I have for sure some Experience to look behind some curtain..but atm i am a bit frustrated
Root is no problem, fastboot boot to TWRP and install it.
This phone is much more challenging than other handsets due to the fact Google has implemented dual booting partitions. It also seems they aren't as interested in the developer community now that they are making their own phones and not just putting out an OS for Android. So, this handset isn't as friendly for devs, except for those who are really into masochistic behavior (self punishment). If you're looking for a really robust developer community you probably should stick to Samsung or a few other manufacturers and avoid Google for the foreseeable future.
Just my thoughts.
Really unbelievable that there are no ROMs due to those issues.
Will sell my Pixel and keep my Nexus 6P
I'm thinking of selling my pixel and getting a oneplus 5, or waiting to see how the modding scene evolves for the razor phone.
Truly disappointed the pixel line didn't follow on from nexus devices.
I will do so.
Got my pixel used and defective, Google will replace it for free so I will be able to sell it as new.
Would it be possible to install substratum and xposed framework?
Thought of getting nexus 6p,but bought the pixel thinking that it would get more development..
now I'm regretting that decision..?
I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
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I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
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for that ..S-off is needed..but a great idea through
Really funny how things have changed. It wasn't that long ago that if you wanted a phone that was easy to root, and had tons of developers, with tons of ROM options, you got a Nexus. Now that the Pixels are here, it's just the opposite.
The only saving grace is Google will continue supporting the pixel until October 2019 so I'm not going to be stranded with a phone I can't update.
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
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Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
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Quite a few devices are getting both official and unofficial 8.0 updates. As far as 8.1 I'm pretty sure it's still in beta so it's only available for the Google family of devices as there is no way to look into the source of the beta and try to compile it for other phones.
There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
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There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
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Can you share a link where I can find the OMNIROM you are actually runningp please ?
Thank you !
vlucchetti said:
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
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How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
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How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
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I miss my 6P, thought it was an awesome phone but the battery issue SOT of 2 hours after 2 years was killing me. Got the XL as a warranty replacement for virtually nothing, so it was a win-win.
Once the custom roms roll out, it will rival or exceed the 6P, I have no doubt.
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Why is this forum for the G4 so dead? Because it's new and not able to root yet?
Yeah, it was a little early to split the forums. Things'll liven up when root is available.
Plus it seems the bootloader is still locked.
not dead, am hoping it just hasn't come to life yet.
o/
lol not dead
Who knows, but #10!
I'd say pretty dead. Might we be about to miss our "window" for having a heavily supported device?
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I'd say pretty dead. Might we be about to miss our "window" for having a heavily supported device?
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Possibly. There's still a chance if the pro or nexus 5 is somewhat compatible.
I think I'm giving up on anything but nexus devices in the future. It's obvious the carriers don't care about security or usability.
With the recent security issues I need a phone that I own completely.
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Possibly. There's still a chance if the pro or nexus 5 is somewhat compatible.
I think I'm giving up on anything but nexus devices in the future. It's obvious the carriers don't care about security or usability.
With the recent security issues I need a phone that I own completely.
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You said it bub. I really didn't care whether I bought the M9, S6 or G4 and bought the G4 due reading that the Snapdragon was easier to dev on (so, no S6) and the 810 ran too hot (so, no M9). I pre-ordered at the first possible opportunity with the expectation of seeing a mass amount of custom ROMs and kernels in a couple months.
Performance has been fine, but obviously, the phone being so locked down is a total buzzkill. I'll never buy another non-Nexus device before it's broken wide open by our awesome dev community.
My beloved N5 has been acting wonky the last couple weeks and I need to consider a replacement, as my new job doesn't leave much time for troubleshooting. Could I get some informed opinions on the best Android phone currently on the market to replace my N5?
My two must-haves are:
1) Must be able to root at least as easily as N5. Again, I'm time-pressed and can't spend hours fussing over it.
2) Must have a removable/user-replaceable battery -- the REGULAR kind, where you don't have to disassemble the phone to replace it. That's my biggest gripe about the Nexus.
Otherwise, N5-level specs or better are fine.
Thanks in advance!
Really depends on how much you want to spend but the LG G3/G4 or Samsung S5 may be a good choice.
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Really depends on how much you want to spend but the LG G3/G4 or Samsung S5 may be a good choice.
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Thanks. I was thinking about the G4, but with the G5 supposedly out in 45 days, I wonder if I can milk my N5 that long? Wonder how long it will take people to develop a rooting mechanism? Seems like a quarter of my apps need root access.
IMO, this phone ran A LOT better on Lolipop than it does on M. Maybe that's my problem...
I like mm better than LP on the n5. I am currently using a stock s4 at the moment. I got it really cheap and want to make sure it functions properly before passing it on to a family member.
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I'm in the same boat. My N5 is about done. Already replaced the charging port thingy but now the mic is going out and it needs a new battery badly.
I was hoping I'd be able to limp along till the new Nexus with an 820 but it doesn't look like I can last another 6 months. The LG G5 looks promising and I'm gonna try to wait till it comes out.
You can really get some good deals on the LG G4 if you shop around right now. Sure it's coming up to a year old, but it's still a fantastic phone with a removable battery. It doesn't feel too sluggish and you can probably find a nice ROM to put on there. The LG G5 is dope. It's much easier to replace the battery on this model and would be nice to have. It's also apparently slightly smaller so I'd enjoy that more. I expect it to be quite expensive though as it launches later this year.
Personally for me, I'm falling in love with the Galaxy S7. I know it doesn't have a removable battery, but it has a Micro SD card slot, sensible size and features Samsung Pay arriving in the UK this year. Ultimately though, there's still nothing wrong with my Nexus 5, so I've no sensible reason as of right now to upgrade.
Choose wisely!
OnePlus X if ASOP is your style.. LG G5 if your wallet permits..
im planning also to replace my nexus 5.
my 1st choice is the Lenovo ZUK Z1 (cyanogen OS) and the other would be 1+2 or LG G4.
I have replaced my nexus 5 with a LG G4 two months ago and I absolutely love it. Awesome camera, great battery life and a really nice screen. Rooting my G4 was simple to, but keep in mind that the non European versions don't have an official bootloader unlock and an unofficial unlock may never come. But if you have the European version like me than you won't have problems with rooting and flashing custom roms. If you like really active development than maybe the G4 won't be the best choice for you due all other versions of the G4 can't be unlocked...
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OnePlus X if ASOP is your style.. LG G5 if your wallet permits..
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Are the One Plus phones easily rooted and bootloader unlocked?
I thought the G4 was locked down tight if you wanted one with a US warranty?
Not really looking at these devices from tweakers' point of view.. Actually ever since after KK, there ain't much more to do with LP or the current MM. Its BETTER NOT to tweak/root them. If you're into Android dev, stay in KK.. I am..???? If you have noticed, much of the popular devs have already long left the Android development scene..
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Not really looking at these devices from tweakers' point of view.. Actually ever since after KK, there ain't much more to do with LP or the current MM. Its BETTER NOT to tweak/root them. If you're into Android dev, stay in KK.. I am..???? If you have noticed, much of the popular devs have already long left the Android development scene..
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I root and unlock the bootloader mostly to use utils like Titanium Backup and TWRP.
Maybe I should just buy a 6P and a spare battery while the latter are still available? Is the 6P easily rooted and bootloader unlocked, or is that screwed down tight?
Not really sure about the 6P.. I'm still using my Nexus 5, 7 (2012) and 10.. Multirom with several 4.4.4s.. With and without GApps. Dalvik is still the best.
I have been using a FRD-L14 running EMUI 4.1 (B150) for a few months and while I love having such a long battery life, I am starting to get frustrated with how much of my apps the system automatically kills in the background (alarm apps, text delay send, etc). I am considering trying out a custom ROM but have a few questions before proceeding.
1. If I make a TWRP nandroid backup, can I just reflash that at any time and revert back to my current rom without any hiccups if I have regrets?
2. I remember reading somewhere that I have to first upgrade to EMUI 5.0 before using a custom rom, this will not cause any issue with potential rollback?
3. What is the best currently available custom rom to try if I am looking for longest battery life and fewest bugs? Will the battery life come anywhere close to EMUI 4.1?
Thank you in advance!
Aren't there any official updates for the premium H8s?
Also that's quite the lengthy question and I know it's been asked before somewhere, please use the search function.
(Plus i can't remember the exact details as well)
Also battery life is **** with custom,(won't last me a day so i went back to stock) especially compared to MM (Even stock nougat is a worse) and all of them are somewhat buggy, but it depends on what you use.
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I'm a new user of the Honor 8 with the exact same problem...
Also have the FRD-L14... wondering if any improvements/insights?
Would love to root, remove bloat, and even install a custom ROM, but all I've seen is that it can be a complete clusterf*#@ to do so. I'm just about to return this phone, its quirks are really ruining it for me.
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...... Would love to root, remove bloat, and even install a custom ROM, but all I've seen is that it can be a complete clusterf*#@ to do so. I'm just about to return this phone, its quirks are really ruining it for me.
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i recommend that you return it asap! there are other phones that are way better. the good thing is that most new phones will have oreo and treble by default which is going to be mandatory in android from now on.
at worst, users will get AOSP. at best, custom ROMs that have much better functionality. i recommend saving for either a oneplus, or maybe a nokia.
thanks, I think you're right, just such a headache shopping for a bargain again. do you have any recs for phones that are similarly fast but without the intrusive bloat and which hopefully are easily rooted/support magisk mods etc? I wish the xiomi 5 series worked in the US, they sound great for the money. maybe another Chinese brand (Oppo, Meizu) that has better specs than the going rate here but can also be modded? I don't need to get it back to Amazon until the end of February (thank you, extended holiday returns), so I can wait for shipment from China. Or else a Motorola or even Nokia? need to keep under $350; significantly less would be much better.
appreciate it if you have any ideas.
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i recommend that you return it asap! there are other phones that are way better. the good thing is that most new phones will have oreo and treble by default which is going to be mandatory in android from now on.
at worst, users will get AOSP. at best, custom ROMs that have much better functionality. i recommend saving for either a oneplus, or maybe a nokia.
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sorry, just saw that you HAD recs. kind of intrigued by Nokia because I think they're selling at a discount to get their name out there. is there a specific model?
and is there anywhere you can still buy a OP3?
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............. do you have any recs for phones that are similarly fast but without the intrusive bloat and which hopefully are easily rooted/support magisk mods etc? I wish the xiomi 5 series worked in the US, they sound great for the money. maybe another Chinese brand (Oppo, Meizu) that has better specs than the going rate here but can also be modded?.......... and is there anywhere you can still buy a OP3?
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okay, so now that you informed me about your location (US) it seems that you and i are in the same situation. i was waiting to get a 1+5t after buying a few 1+5s for various family members. they all needed updates. after thinking about it i decided to wait because 1+ lacks the one thing i desperately rely on.... EXPANDABLE STORAGE!
sadly, this is the one area where huawei really excels at. they include expandable storage on most of their phones. after htc decided to skip a US release of the U11+ it seemed that i would be forced to settle for the 1+ but thankfully there have been leaks of many new devices.
the one im looking forward to is the new redesigned sony line. from what i have read they will keep the 16:9 which i love and adopt a rear fingerprint scanner plus small bezels. the huge bezels are the only thing keeping me from buying a sony as they keep their android ROM clean with no horrible UI.
aside from sony, xiaomi is said to be releasing a few phones in the us as well. these combined with a redesign of the LG flagships. that makes for many options but, you will need to set aside a bit of money. imho, it will be worth it because all of these phones will come with oreo and treble.
for those devices that have a horrible stock rom, you can just install AOSP or any of the treble based custom ROMs. it will be great since all the latest phones have more longevity thanks to their hardware. the only limitation is software but treble will take care of that.
as far as a 1+3/t, you can find them on swappa. if bought 2 a few weeks back for $215 shipped. both were 64GB models that only needed the screen repaired. the total ended costing me about $170 each. if you have any kind of experience with repair, i recommend taking that route. i hope this helped, if you have any questions, dont hesitate to pm me. we gotta help each other out some way or another. cheers!
https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-drops-support-devices-inactive-maintainers/
TL;DR:
LineageOS drops official support due to inactive maintainers for Moto X Style/Pure alongside other Motorolas (such as Moto Z2 and G4) and other devices as well (most prominently Galaxy Note 3 and 8, HTC 10, Oneplus X, LG G3, Nexus 7 2013, several LG GPads and the recently released Xiaomi Redmi Note 5).
What do you think about this situation? Is support for our Moto X Style officialy dead?
~Aluminium X
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
devsk said:
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
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I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
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That's very interesting. I wonder how it is living with a phone with Copperhead OS and/or F-droid apps only.
Some people say that avoiding Google services and using F-droid instead in a standard ROM like Lineage gives you an extra hour of screen on time and improved idle power consumption, but information online is scarce about that particular subject. Most people use F-droid just to avoid Google for privacy reasons.
Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
Legendary phone stands on its own
Thankfully, the stock Rom on this phone is good enough that there's really no need for these. Still, it's better to have more choices than to have fewer choices, so it will be a bit of a hypothetical bummer to one of the greatest smartphones ever.
Long live the Pure Edition!
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Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
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Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
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Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
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Just go to the Post below for more info. Ifixit is involved with it so I would imagine it is legit. They can sell just the battery or the entire kit.
I personally got mine off ebay and got lucky. 7+ months and still going strong.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...al-oem-battery-replacement-kit-t3857897/page3
So where to download Lineage OS for Moto X Sytle now?
So sad because I wanted to install a custom rom in my moto x pure . Im new to rooting so is there any way to download the rom regardless not having support anymore?
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MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
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lmao, it never was... Very bad cpu with throttling issues, weak battery, no official batteries for replacement, poor official and unoficial support, poor build quality and no fingerprint scaner lol
hello, guys.
I don't have an opportunity to buy a Pixel, since it's really costly in my country, but i do like features they offering like call screen or they showed new assistant on recent I/O.
So right now i can afford either an android one phone(like Nokia 8.1 or wait for Xiaomi mi a3 release) or a OnePlus 6. So my questions are:
0) For Pixel owners: Are those features are worth it at all? Is there such thing called "pixel magic"? Like Pixels working better, no matter the hardware(i never heard about it from US reviewers, only from locals, so i suspect it might be just them feeling so special having a rare Pixel in our parts)
1) In your opinion, would those (as for now) pixel only features will come on other android devices and if so, which of the above would get them first?
2) You opinions on compering Android one and oxygen OS? Which one is better?
Thanks
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hello, guys.
I don't have an opportunity to buy a Pixel, since it's really costly in my country, but i do like features they offering like call screen or they showed new assistant on recent I/O.
So right now i can afford either an android one phone(like Nokia 8.1 or wait for Xiaomi mi a3 release) or a OnePlus 6. So my questions are:
0) For Pixel owners: Are those features are worth it at all? Is there such thing called "pixel magic"? Like Pixels working better, no matter the hardware(i never heard about it from US reviewers, only from locals, so i suspect it might be just them feeling so special having a rare Pixel in our parts)
1) In your opinion, would those (as for now) pixel only features will come on other android devices and if so, which of the above would get them first?
2) You opinions on compering Android one and oxygen OS? Which one is better?
Thanks
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"Better" is a relative term. The real answer is neither are better. One may be better for certain things than the other.
It is more of a matter of which one is better for YOUR purposes and usage.
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