Has anyone found 120fps to work on anything? Even in games that could run at 120fps on S20 Ultra, they seem to be capped at 60fps on the Fold 2. CPU/GPU / temperature stats all seem low so i don't think they're throttled.
Zell Dinch said:
Has anyone found 120fps to work on anything? Even in games that could run at 120fps on S20 Ultra, they seem to be capped at 60fps on the Fold 2. CPU/GPU / temperature stats all seem low so i don't think they're throttled.
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You might have already checked, under settings, display, motion smoothness, it needs to be set to adaptive. My unlocked was on adaptive out of the box. I have seen vids of carrier versions being set on standard out of the box.
I'm having the same experience. I've had a few phones with 120hz and the games that are supposedly able to run at 120fps don't seem to actually be running at that rate. the s20 ultra had certain games that ran and some that didn't. even fewer with my note 20 ultra and fold 2. I wonder what the trick to get the to work is. I've tried all the recommendations from people on these forums but nothing works. Some games will go 120fps, but they seem to be few are far between. And i'm not going to play a game just cause of the 120fps possibility but it would be nice that the ones that I do play that advertise that rate, would actually play at that rate.
Go to battery and pick high performance mode.insted of the balance
120fps here... You can see it at top of my screen shoits
i went to a random site that tests refresh rate and im running 120. screenshot...
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120fps here... You can see it at top of my screen shoits
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What game is that?
xavierxxx2p said:
What game is that?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.idreams.SkyForceReloaded2016
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120fps here... You can see it at top of my screen shoits
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Ahhh, Skyforce, do you play with your finger or a soft stylus?
Skyforce I can get to play at 120fps. But not subway surfer or brawl stars (90 fps). Wish there was a solution to the inconsistency.
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Ahhh, Skyforce, do you play with your finger or a soft stylus?
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I play with both fingers and stylus... All depends on my mood
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Skyforce I can get to play at 120fps. But not subway surfer or brawl stars (90 fps). Wish there was a solution to the inconsistency.
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Got 60fps for both games
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Got 60fps for both games
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When I had my s20 I could get subway surfers to 120 fps and it was glorious, lol. It really does help with gameplay. But my Note 20 ultra and fold sit at 60. Oh, and my OnePlus 8 pro plays surfers at 120 fps too.
I'm confused. Aren't FPS and refresh rate in MHz different things?
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I'm confused. Aren't FPS and refresh rate in MHz different things?
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Theoretically yes. Number of frames displayed per second depends on multiple different factor e.g processing / rendering speed and refresh rate of the screen. Bottleneck doesn't seem to be gpu/cpu so its capped by software and can't utilise the full processing power / refresh rate of the screen.
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Hey guys, I've been enjoying using the Shield for both Android and PC games, but being a spoiled PC gamer has left me with a desire for 60fps when streaming PC games. With my Shield connected to my wireless N router over the 5GHz band at 300mbps and excellent signal strength, would that not be enough bandwidth to stream 720p 60fps video? Is there a way to increase the framerate manually?
According to a lot of reviews I've been reading, you aren't going to get 60 FPS. I've heard 30-45 range is what is expected, depending on your connection. Since you have a great connection don't expect anything higher than 45....
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jadengore said:
According to a lot of reviews I've been reading, you aren't going to get 60 FPS. I've heard 30-45 range is what is expected, depending on your connection. Since you have a great connection don't expect anything higher than 45....
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I think this depends on your graphics card. I tested Tomb Raider with a Titan card and i got 100FPS without vsync... :silly:
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I think this depends on your graphics card. I tested Tomb Raider with a Titan card and i got 100FPS without vsync... :silly:
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We're talking about framerate on the Shield when streaming pc games to it. You might be getting that framerate on your PC, but not on the Shield
I'm pretty sure this streams in a constant 24fps h.264 video at all times. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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You can try setting the game to 720p using the in game settings.
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I'm pretty sure this streams in a constant 24fps h.264 video at all times. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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that sounds right. If you had 2 different framerates i imagine you would get flashing or stuttering,
like when you adjust the frame rate on monitors it gets weird if its not set the same as GPU
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You can try setting the game to 720p using the in game settings.
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But they are at 2 different framerates. If you've got a decent computer, start streaming a game at Shield while looking at the game running on your computer. They are both definitely not at the same framerate
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But they are at 2 different framerates. If you've got a decent computer, start streaming a game at Shield while looking at the game running on your computer. They are both definitely not at the same framerate
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I do have a decent computer
ASUS P9X79 LE
Intel i7-3820
64GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 x2
Don't see the need to list more then that.
As far as streaming goes you can't use the same methods for framerate that you would use on your desktop. I tried setting the resolution to 1280x720 in the game setting, had it at 1920x1080 and I noticed the framerate on the shield go up at 1280x720.
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Yes, for "NVIDIA Supported" games, the resolution change is automatic. But for other games, you'll get a lot better results if you change the resolution to 720p, since that's the native panel resolution (higher res means higher bandwidth)
I've said in another thread, thinking of an idea to get controller support to work better. Stay tuned.
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I do have a decent computer
ASUS P9X79 LE
Intel i7-3820
64GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 x2
Don't see the need to list more then that.
As far as streaming goes you can't use the same methods for framerate that you would use on your desktop. I tried setting the resolution to 1280x720 in the game setting, had it at 1920x1080 and I noticed the framerate on the shield go up at 1280x720.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. You measure framerate the same way on any LCD. I'm aware that it is best to stream games at 720p, but I was asking if the stream could be sent to the Shield at 60 frames per second, instead of the ~30 frames per second that it currently does.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. You measure framerate the same way on any LCD.
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Yes that true if the LCD is connected to the computer rendering the video you see.
You can improve FPS and streamed FPS by simply changing the game settings to display at 1280x720.
Here is a simple way to find out try it for your self.
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Yes that true if the LCD is connected to the computer rendering the video you see.
You can improve FPS and streamed FPS by simply changing the game settings to display at 1280x720.
Here is a simple way to find out try it for your self.
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I already know changing the resolution to 720p will increase the framerate, but it does not increase the framerate that Shield is streaming at above ~30fps. Every game, no matter what framerate I get on the computer that is actually playing the game (for example, Bioshock Infinite. My pc will play that game at over 120fps on medium settings at 720p resolution), the Shield is still streaming at 30fps. What I'm asking is not if I can get better performance from my PC, I'm asking if the streaming video from my pc to Shield can be increased from 30fps to 60fps.
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I already know changing the resolution to 720p will increase the framerate, but it does not increase the framerate that Shield is streaming at above ~30fps. Every game, no matter what framerate I get on the computer that is actually playing the game (for example, Bioshock Infinite. My pc will play that game at over 120fps on medium settings at 720p resolution), the Shield is still streaming at 30fps. What I'm asking is not if I can get better performance from my PC, I'm asking if the streaming video from my pc to Shield can be increased from 30fps to 60fps.
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How do you know what the shield is playing for fps? do you have some fps counter that runs on your shield?
maybe you should look up
Video Scaling
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How do you know what the shield is playing for fps? do you have some fps counter that runs on your shield?
maybe you should look up
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Bandwitdh for HD Streaming
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I can tell that the Shield is at around 30fps just by looking at it, the same way I can tell the difference between 24fps for movies, and 30, 60, 120fps for video games.
Video scaling has nothing to do with this, since the source is in 720p in the first place, and I guarantee that 720p at 60fps does not use more than 50mb/s
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I can tell that the Shield is at around 30fps just by looking at it, the same way I can tell the difference between 24fps for movies, and 30, 60, 120fps for video games.
Video scaling has nothing to do with this, since the source is in 720p in the first place, and I guarantee that 720p at 60fps does not use more than 50mb/s
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Just to correct you... 1280 * 720 * 60 * 4 = 211MB/s (uncompressed) So the real question becomes what is the compression level.
(Add the breakdown 720p = 1280 x 720 resolution, 4 bytes per pixel (32-bit color), 60fps)
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Just to correct you... 1280 * 720 * 60 * 4 = 211MB/s (uncompressed) So the real question becomes what is the compression level.
(Add the breakdown 720p = 1280 x 720 resolution, 4 bytes per pixel (32-bit color), 60fps)
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Consider me corrected. What are your thoughts on the framerate?
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Consider me corrected. What are your thoughts on the framerate?
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Honestly, got no idea. I don't know if they're throttled on the PC or not. I actually imagine they would be to reduce the traffic... I can't think of a way to detect that you're getting behind on packets until it's too late and you've got game lag. It's better to error on the side of low latency... But that's just my own thoughts on trying to implement a feature like this.
Streaming Dolphin emulator I noticed that i cant run at max resolution (2560x2112) it gets laggy.(too much to stream? or low bandwith router?) when i go to 1280x1056 it streams just fine.
Same with Borderlands 2. max everything is laggy. so it must be limited to how much data it has to convert to be able to stream 720
im using 2 660ti
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Streaming Dolphin emulator I noticed that i cant run at max resolution (2560x2112) it gets laggy.(too much to stream? or low bandwith router?) when i go to 1280x1056 it streams just fine.
Same with Borderlands 2. max everything is laggy. so it must be limited to how much data it has to convert to be able to stream 720
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Assuming only 30fps, a resolution of 2560x2112 would require 618MB/s of transfer rate. I believe the stream is actually done at "native" resolution, so if you're PC is playing at 2560x2112, the data stream is 2560x2112 too. You'd need a wired gigabit to even come *close* to maintaining that type of stream.
So I have noticed that when I film 120 fps video with the camera, there is only an option for 720 and it looks all pixelated. Is this a physical limitation of the camera, or is it just to avoid massive files. If it is not a physical limitation, does anyone know of an app that will let you film 120fps in 1080 or 4K? If there are many apps that do this, which are your favorite and why?
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So I have noticed that when I film 120 fps video with the camera, there is only an option for 720 and it looks all pixelated. Is this a physical limitation of the camera, or is it just to avoid massive files. If it is not a physical limitation, does anyone know of an app that will let you film 120fps in 1080 or 4K? If there are many apps that do this, which are your favorite and why?
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as far as i know, it's a physical limitation. And the reason it looks pixelated is cause it's actually less than 720p and upscaled.
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as far as i know, it's a physical limitation. And the reason it looks pixelated is cause it's actually less than 720p and upscaled.
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Is there a way to get videos to play at 120fps on other devices?
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Is there a way to get videos to play at 120fps on other devices?
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They'll always play at 120 fps. You need to use a video editing software to slow it down though.
So the camera doesn't actually record in 4k or 1080p?
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It does, just not at 120 fps. 1080p goes at 60, and 4k goes at 30.
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So the camera doesn't actually record in 4k or 1080p?
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It can do both. I recommend not using 4k though because as the user above said, it's only 30 fps. 30 fps is not bad but you'll notice the FPS more than you'll notice the extra resolution which you probabaly only have one device (your g3, which is 2k) that can actually show close to that resolution.
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They'll always play at 120 fps. You need to use a video editing software to slow it down though.
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May I ask which one you use to do that on a PC?
Thanks.
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They'll always play at 120 fps. You need to use a video editing software to slow it down though.
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You only need a player that can slow the video playback, on a PC most players can. I haven't looked into any on android but I'm sure they exist
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May I ask which one you use to do that on a PC?
Thanks.
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i use a mac so i couldn't tell you a specific one. really anything should work.
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You only need a player that can slow the video playback, on a PC most players can. I haven't looked into any on android but I'm sure they exist
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yes true, but if you slow it down with software beforehand it will play slow everywhere automatically and then you can upload it to youtube or similar services.
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It can do both. I recommend not using 4k though because as the user above said, it's only 30 fps. 30 fps is not bad but you'll notice the FPS more than you'll notice the extra resolution which you probabaly only have one device (your g3, which is 2k) that can actually show close to that resolution.
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'Cinema Motion' on Samsung plasma tv's plays back at 24fps for smooth movie like motion. I love it compared to the nasty 60/120/240 hz refresh of LCD monitors. If you go to a warehouse club like sam's or costco, you can compare side by side... IF you can find any plasmsas for sale anymore. YMMV.
The reason I want to do this is because Pokémon GO Takes the fps you should have and cuts it in half. Extremely stupid feature. You can try it yourself by capping the fps below 60 through Game Tuner and it will always be half of what it should be.
My theory is that if the frame rate can hit 120fps it will be 60fps.
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The reason I want to do this is because Pokémon GO Takes the fps you should have and cuts it in half. Extremely stupid feature. You can try it yourself by capping the fps below 60 through Game Tuner and it will always be half of what it should be.
My theory is that if the frame rate can hit 120fps it will be 60fps.
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That would indeed be great. Because im getting bored of the 30fps in games
Does the 90hz do any better performance to video watching like motion interpolation. For Axon 10 pro it adds more frames to the actual frames thus make the video less blury and smooth .it will do the same to games ,YouTube , video players ,etc ,does Nubia also has same function?
I wonder how to know the diference, especially in game frame rate? any app to prove it?
The panel is great, it's made by a Chinese company, the name escapes me. There's no noticeable defects, the 90hz is noticeable.
Try www.testufo.com
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The panel is great, it's made by a Chinese company, the name escapes me. There's no noticeable defects, the 90hz is noticeable.
Try www.testufo.com
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thank you
the wesbite show 92Hz
txdvil said:
I wonder how to know the diference, especially in game frame rate? any app to prove it?
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The panel is great, it's made by a Chinese company, the name escapes me. There's no noticeable defects, the 90hz is noticeable.
Try www.testufo.com
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the wesbite show 92Hz
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The things you said is different. The feature may not available on video players
.Now Only works on mediatek phones and Axon 9 pro and 10 pro. If you don't know what is that refer below video. What it does is It will add more fake frames to reduce blurry effect. Now most of the Tv Comes with this feature.
Left side you see is the Modified Frame Video and Right side is the Normal Frames video
https://youtu.be/-RqSH4hnvtk
Just play below video you should notice blurry frames
https://youtu.be/yYDZ3vYjcDc
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4k hdr 60 fps full graphics
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It's a SD855 it's expected
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why dones't 120Hz
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why dones't 120Hz
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YouTube Only 60 fps and COD only 60 fps
oomwaa12038 said:
why dones't 120Hz
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Because the phone doesn't support 120hz
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Because the phone doesn't support 120hz
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It does
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It does
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Where the settings to toggle 120hz?
Playing games that support 120hz with game enhancer still doesn't feel any smoother than scrolling through the settings etc
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It does
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This won't suddenly jump to 120hz
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This won't suddenly jump to 120hz
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the screenshot is supposed to show what? there is not even the right resolution it must be the settings of the application and not the screen
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the screenshot is supposed to show what? there is not even the right resolution it must be the settings of the application and not the screen
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It's of the screen refresh rate not the app, go look at the xz prem forums for the 120hz mod for example
Same thing happens year after year and someone says it can do 120hz. Sony won't support this and have said this. Unless someone can prove its 120hz. Especially on 4k screen and small battery.....
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It's of the screen refresh rate not the app, go look at the xz prem forums for the 120hz mod for example
Same thing happens year after year and someone says it can do 120hz. Sony won't support this and have said this. Unless someone can prove its 120hz. Especially on 4k screen and small battery.....
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he had made a tournament with the Xperia 1 before its release to show the advantage of 21: 9 and 120hz for compatible games. I think it is the application settings for example with aida64 I have a resolution of 4k for the screen because the application is in 4k I think for the refraichissement of the screen is the same if the application does not offer 120hz native you will not have it
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It's of the screen refresh rate not the app, go look at the xz prem forums for the 120hz mod for example
Same thing happens year after year and someone says it can do 120hz. Sony won't support this and have said this. Unless someone can prove its 120hz. Especially on 4k screen and small battery.....
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he had made a tournament with the Xperia 1 before its release to show the advantage of 21: 9 and 120hz for compatible games. I think it is the application settings for example with aida64 I have a resolution of 4k for the screen because the application is in 4k I think for the refraichissement of the screen is the same if the application does not offer 120hz native you will not have it.
And I think the 120hz is available in axe and Darkness rises because with the maximum screen frequency my battery really does not last long max 2 -2.30 h vs 6-7h usually in games
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he had made a tournament with the Xperia 1 before its release to show the advantage of 21: 9 and 120hz for compatible games. I think it is the application settings for example with aida64 I have a resolution of 4k for the screen because the application is in 4k I think for the refraichissement of the screen is the same if the application does not offer 120hz native you will not have it
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he had made a tournament with the Xperia 1 before its release to show the advantage of 21: 9 and 120hz for compatible games. I think it is the application settings for example with aida64 I have a resolution of 4k for the screen because the application is in 4k I think for the refraichissement of the screen is the same if the application does not offer 120hz native you will not have it.
And I think the 120hz is available in axe and Darkness rises because with the maximum screen frequency my battery really does not last long max 2 -2.30 h vs 6-7h usually in games
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If you think 120hz based on battery performance then it's not 120hz. You would clearly see the device being smoother.
Sony hasn't said it supports 120hz. You would think 4k at 120hz is better for advertising the phone than just 4k.... I welcome someone to prove this wrong.
As soon as one person says it 120hz others jump on and start spreading it.
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If you think 120hz based on battery performance then it's not 120hz. You would clearly see the device being smoother.
Sony hasn't said it supports 120hz. You would think 4k at 120hz is better for advertising the phone than just 4k.... I welcome someone to prove this wrong.
As soon as one person says it 120hz others jump on and start spreading it.
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120 Hz is not available in 4k it is Normal that it does not communicate on it, only in 2k and Sony is one of the companies that communicates the least about the features, it's a rpg the difference is not obvious but since the game supports a refresh of 120 Hz it can not be that the other rpg I play does not consume as much and they are all 60fps. when the characteristics is zackbugs who had published an image is still him who shows the photos of smartphones 6 months before their release not the kind of people told anything
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120 Hz is not available in 4k it is Normal that it does not communicate on it, only in 2k and Sony is one of the companies that communicates the least about the features, it's a rpg the difference is not obvious but since the game supports a refresh of 120 Hz it can not be that the other rpg I play does not consume as much and they are all 60fps. when the characteristics is zackbugs who had published an image is still him who shows the photos of smartphones 6 months before their release not the kind of people told anything
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Game supports 120hz but Xperia 1 doesn't. As I said earlier one person says it the rest follow.
RPG or not RPG you would be able to tell the difference between 120hz and 60hz.
Sony would advertise 120hz just as much as they would as 4k as it would be a key selling point. They've also said they went with battery life over 120hz
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Game supports 120hz but Xperia 1 doesn't. As I said earlier one person says it the rest follow.
RPG or not RPG you would be able to tell the difference between 120hz and 60hz.
Sony would advertise 120hz just as much as they would as 4k as it would be a key selling point. They've also said they went with battery life over 120hz
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it is not me who said it was on the site Asian Sony does not ask me which one. it would surprise me strongly that only the Asian versions take into account that, it will not release the top because it would need compatibility only with the game 2k / 120 Hz and 100% compatible with the game optimizer so only a very small minority of titles it has no interest to release the top if it concerns only 3 titles on millions. and all high-end Sony have a screen 120 Hz x1 does not deviate from the rule. we will talk about it in 1 years when the mod will come out. Sony will never offer to change the refresh of the screen just as it does not propose to change the screen resolution. Short end of the debate we'll talk when a mod out and yes on the RPG 60 or 120 FPS hardly change anything, there is too little movement to realize a few things. it is only useful for the game (type of shooting with fast movement that you will see a difference)
120hz with daily use?
Battery life from 6 soc to 3.
Nope.
I dont know maybe it doesnt...
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but yesterday I decided to try CoD Mobile on my Xperia 1 and it runs great except for a slight snag, it doesn't fill the whole screen. There are 3 thin black bars on the bottom and the sides of the image, as if the display resolution is a bit lower than the screen and instead of fitting the image to the screen it just goes top-center.
Anyone else have this experience with CoD Mobile? My Xperia 1 is fully updated to the latest firmware, and from older videos on youtube it seems like the image should fill up the whole screen. Can anyone with experience clarify?
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Sorry for reviving an old thread, but yesterday I decided to try CoD Mobile on my Xperia 1 and it runs great except for a slight snag, it doesn't fill the whole screen. There are 3 thin black bars on the bottom and the sides of the image, as if the display resolution is a bit lower than the screen and instead of fitting the image to the screen it just goes top-center.
Anyone else have this experience with CoD Mobile? My Xperia 1 is fully updated to the latest firmware, and from older videos on youtube it seems like the image should fill up the whole screen. Can anyone with experience clarify?
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Its CoD related, contact the dev of it !! Not all apps/games are optimized for those kind of screens like the Xperia 1.
Sleepy_Buddha said:
Sorry for reviving an old thread, but yesterday I decided to try CoD Mobile on my Xperia 1 and it runs great except for a slight snag, it doesn't fill the whole screen. There are 3 thin black bars on the bottom and the sides of the image, as if the display resolution is a bit lower than the screen and instead of fitting the image to the screen it just goes top-center.
Anyone else have this experience with CoD Mobile? My Xperia 1 is fully updated to the latest firmware, and from older videos on youtube it seems like the image should fill up the whole screen. Can anyone with experience clarify?
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The Android 10 full screen navigation broke the full screen support for some games on 21:9 display. The only way I know to temporarily solve this issue is to change to three buttons home navigation before you launch the game. This will annoy people who has a lot of icons in Home because they will be shifted when you switch in between of both navigation modes.