So I have noticed that when I film 120 fps video with the camera, there is only an option for 720 and it looks all pixelated. Is this a physical limitation of the camera, or is it just to avoid massive files. If it is not a physical limitation, does anyone know of an app that will let you film 120fps in 1080 or 4K? If there are many apps that do this, which are your favorite and why?
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So I have noticed that when I film 120 fps video with the camera, there is only an option for 720 and it looks all pixelated. Is this a physical limitation of the camera, or is it just to avoid massive files. If it is not a physical limitation, does anyone know of an app that will let you film 120fps in 1080 or 4K? If there are many apps that do this, which are your favorite and why?
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as far as i know, it's a physical limitation. And the reason it looks pixelated is cause it's actually less than 720p and upscaled.
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as far as i know, it's a physical limitation. And the reason it looks pixelated is cause it's actually less than 720p and upscaled.
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Is there a way to get videos to play at 120fps on other devices?
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Is there a way to get videos to play at 120fps on other devices?
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They'll always play at 120 fps. You need to use a video editing software to slow it down though.
So the camera doesn't actually record in 4k or 1080p?
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It does, just not at 120 fps. 1080p goes at 60, and 4k goes at 30.
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So the camera doesn't actually record in 4k or 1080p?
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It can do both. I recommend not using 4k though because as the user above said, it's only 30 fps. 30 fps is not bad but you'll notice the FPS more than you'll notice the extra resolution which you probabaly only have one device (your g3, which is 2k) that can actually show close to that resolution.
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They'll always play at 120 fps. You need to use a video editing software to slow it down though.
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May I ask which one you use to do that on a PC?
Thanks.
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They'll always play at 120 fps. You need to use a video editing software to slow it down though.
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You only need a player that can slow the video playback, on a PC most players can. I haven't looked into any on android but I'm sure they exist
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May I ask which one you use to do that on a PC?
Thanks.
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i use a mac so i couldn't tell you a specific one. really anything should work.
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You only need a player that can slow the video playback, on a PC most players can. I haven't looked into any on android but I'm sure they exist
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yes true, but if you slow it down with software beforehand it will play slow everywhere automatically and then you can upload it to youtube or similar services.
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It can do both. I recommend not using 4k though because as the user above said, it's only 30 fps. 30 fps is not bad but you'll notice the FPS more than you'll notice the extra resolution which you probabaly only have one device (your g3, which is 2k) that can actually show close to that resolution.
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'Cinema Motion' on Samsung plasma tv's plays back at 24fps for smooth movie like motion. I love it compared to the nasty 60/120/240 hz refresh of LCD monitors. If you go to a warehouse club like sam's or costco, you can compare side by side... IF you can find any plasmsas for sale anymore. YMMV.
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Hey guys, I've been enjoying using the Shield for both Android and PC games, but being a spoiled PC gamer has left me with a desire for 60fps when streaming PC games. With my Shield connected to my wireless N router over the 5GHz band at 300mbps and excellent signal strength, would that not be enough bandwidth to stream 720p 60fps video? Is there a way to increase the framerate manually?
According to a lot of reviews I've been reading, you aren't going to get 60 FPS. I've heard 30-45 range is what is expected, depending on your connection. Since you have a great connection don't expect anything higher than 45....
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According to a lot of reviews I've been reading, you aren't going to get 60 FPS. I've heard 30-45 range is what is expected, depending on your connection. Since you have a great connection don't expect anything higher than 45....
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I think this depends on your graphics card. I tested Tomb Raider with a Titan card and i got 100FPS without vsync... :silly:
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I think this depends on your graphics card. I tested Tomb Raider with a Titan card and i got 100FPS without vsync... :silly:
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We're talking about framerate on the Shield when streaming pc games to it. You might be getting that framerate on your PC, but not on the Shield
I'm pretty sure this streams in a constant 24fps h.264 video at all times. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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You can try setting the game to 720p using the in game settings.
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I'm pretty sure this streams in a constant 24fps h.264 video at all times. Correct me if I'm mistaken.
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that sounds right. If you had 2 different framerates i imagine you would get flashing or stuttering,
like when you adjust the frame rate on monitors it gets weird if its not set the same as GPU
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You can try setting the game to 720p using the in game settings.
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But they are at 2 different framerates. If you've got a decent computer, start streaming a game at Shield while looking at the game running on your computer. They are both definitely not at the same framerate
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But they are at 2 different framerates. If you've got a decent computer, start streaming a game at Shield while looking at the game running on your computer. They are both definitely not at the same framerate
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I do have a decent computer
ASUS P9X79 LE
Intel i7-3820
64GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 x2
Don't see the need to list more then that.
As far as streaming goes you can't use the same methods for framerate that you would use on your desktop. I tried setting the resolution to 1280x720 in the game setting, had it at 1920x1080 and I noticed the framerate on the shield go up at 1280x720.
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Yes, for "NVIDIA Supported" games, the resolution change is automatic. But for other games, you'll get a lot better results if you change the resolution to 720p, since that's the native panel resolution (higher res means higher bandwidth)
I've said in another thread, thinking of an idea to get controller support to work better. Stay tuned.
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I do have a decent computer
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Intel i7-3820
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 x2
Don't see the need to list more then that.
As far as streaming goes you can't use the same methods for framerate that you would use on your desktop. I tried setting the resolution to 1280x720 in the game setting, had it at 1920x1080 and I noticed the framerate on the shield go up at 1280x720.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. You measure framerate the same way on any LCD. I'm aware that it is best to stream games at 720p, but I was asking if the stream could be sent to the Shield at 60 frames per second, instead of the ~30 frames per second that it currently does.
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I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. You measure framerate the same way on any LCD.
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Yes that true if the LCD is connected to the computer rendering the video you see.
You can improve FPS and streamed FPS by simply changing the game settings to display at 1280x720.
Here is a simple way to find out try it for your self.
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Yes that true if the LCD is connected to the computer rendering the video you see.
You can improve FPS and streamed FPS by simply changing the game settings to display at 1280x720.
Here is a simple way to find out try it for your self.
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I already know changing the resolution to 720p will increase the framerate, but it does not increase the framerate that Shield is streaming at above ~30fps. Every game, no matter what framerate I get on the computer that is actually playing the game (for example, Bioshock Infinite. My pc will play that game at over 120fps on medium settings at 720p resolution), the Shield is still streaming at 30fps. What I'm asking is not if I can get better performance from my PC, I'm asking if the streaming video from my pc to Shield can be increased from 30fps to 60fps.
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I already know changing the resolution to 720p will increase the framerate, but it does not increase the framerate that Shield is streaming at above ~30fps. Every game, no matter what framerate I get on the computer that is actually playing the game (for example, Bioshock Infinite. My pc will play that game at over 120fps on medium settings at 720p resolution), the Shield is still streaming at 30fps. What I'm asking is not if I can get better performance from my PC, I'm asking if the streaming video from my pc to Shield can be increased from 30fps to 60fps.
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How do you know what the shield is playing for fps? do you have some fps counter that runs on your shield?
maybe you should look up
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How do you know what the shield is playing for fps? do you have some fps counter that runs on your shield?
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I can tell that the Shield is at around 30fps just by looking at it, the same way I can tell the difference between 24fps for movies, and 30, 60, 120fps for video games.
Video scaling has nothing to do with this, since the source is in 720p in the first place, and I guarantee that 720p at 60fps does not use more than 50mb/s
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I can tell that the Shield is at around 30fps just by looking at it, the same way I can tell the difference between 24fps for movies, and 30, 60, 120fps for video games.
Video scaling has nothing to do with this, since the source is in 720p in the first place, and I guarantee that 720p at 60fps does not use more than 50mb/s
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Just to correct you... 1280 * 720 * 60 * 4 = 211MB/s (uncompressed) So the real question becomes what is the compression level.
(Add the breakdown 720p = 1280 x 720 resolution, 4 bytes per pixel (32-bit color), 60fps)
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Just to correct you... 1280 * 720 * 60 * 4 = 211MB/s (uncompressed) So the real question becomes what is the compression level.
(Add the breakdown 720p = 1280 x 720 resolution, 4 bytes per pixel (32-bit color), 60fps)
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Consider me corrected. What are your thoughts on the framerate?
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Consider me corrected. What are your thoughts on the framerate?
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Honestly, got no idea. I don't know if they're throttled on the PC or not. I actually imagine they would be to reduce the traffic... I can't think of a way to detect that you're getting behind on packets until it's too late and you've got game lag. It's better to error on the side of low latency... But that's just my own thoughts on trying to implement a feature like this.
Streaming Dolphin emulator I noticed that i cant run at max resolution (2560x2112) it gets laggy.(too much to stream? or low bandwith router?) when i go to 1280x1056 it streams just fine.
Same with Borderlands 2. max everything is laggy. so it must be limited to how much data it has to convert to be able to stream 720
im using 2 660ti
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Streaming Dolphin emulator I noticed that i cant run at max resolution (2560x2112) it gets laggy.(too much to stream? or low bandwith router?) when i go to 1280x1056 it streams just fine.
Same with Borderlands 2. max everything is laggy. so it must be limited to how much data it has to convert to be able to stream 720
im using 2 660ti
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Assuming only 30fps, a resolution of 2560x2112 would require 618MB/s of transfer rate. I believe the stream is actually done at "native" resolution, so if you're PC is playing at 2560x2112, the data stream is 2560x2112 too. You'd need a wired gigabit to even come *close* to maintaining that type of stream.
I was trying to find information whether or not the Nexus 5 shoots 4k video like the note 3??
Neither,Nexus 5 shooting on 1080p HD only!
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http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-5705.php
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Neither,Nexus 5 shooting on 1080p HD only!
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Thanks for the response.... that sucks that nexus 5 cant shoot 4k.
Doesn't really suck that much, we don't have 4K TVs yet. At least most of us. If you can afford a 4K TV then you can afford a device that records 4K.
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Thanks for the response.... that sucks that nexus 5 cant shoot 4k.
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Why on earth would you need to shoot 4k video with a cell phone?
agree....
In a few years it'll be a worthwhile feature, but currently I really can't see the point!
Why record something in a resolution that can't be displayed on the vast, vast majority of screens around!?
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In a few years it'll be a worthwhile feature, but currently I really can't see the point!
Why record something in a resolution that can't be displayed on the vast, vast majority of screens around!?
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umm 4k TV prices are getting reasonable enough that i will be purchasing one within the next year. I just would like to have something to display of my 4k tv
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Why on earth would you need to shoot 4k video with a cell phone?
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to play on a 4k tv
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Doesn't really suck that much, we don't have 4K TVs yet. At least most of us. If you can afford a 4K TV then you can afford a device that records 4K.
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Are you calling everyone that bought a Nexus cheap???????????
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umm 4k TV prices are getting reasonable enough that i will be purchasing one within the next year. I just would like to have something to display of my 4k tv
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Buy a note 3. It's the only phone that can shoot in 4k.
Re: the Note 3, it's kind of stupid for a device that supports 4k video recording not to include OIS. It's the sort of gee-whiz feature with limited utility that Samsung is so fond of, but it won't be genuinely useful until 4k TVs are mainstream.
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Are you calling everyone that bought a Nexus cheap???????????
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No, only you. I mean, you can afford 4K TV. You didn't get a phone that records 4K.
Guys, the shame is not that Nexus 5 doesn't record 4K videos, but that it doesn't record 1080p (or even 720p) videos at 60 FPS.
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No, only you. I mean, you can afford 4K TV. You didn't get a phone that records 4K.
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ok thanks for calling me cheap!
Just saw your signature, you need drop box space. lol Prostitute much
Also with over 600 posts and only 17 thanks, it shows your opinion is worthless in XDA. Thanks anyways
So Nexus 5 has no 4k Recording capability, I wonder what it takes to shoot 4k:
-is it the processor
- optical lens
- software
or something else?
Here, lets not make this anymore "xHD" devices with crappy bitrates please. Anthing can capture in 4K but if the bitrate is crap then the video will look like ****. There's no phone today that can fully utilized 4K bandwidth as their pokey CPUs couldn't keep up. Hell my 2Ghz Core I3 laptop has a tough time playing real 4K and you are gonna try and insinuate that a mobile CPU with slow NAND as a backup can record and process 4K video?
Right right.... :silly:
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Just saw your signature, you need drop box space. lol Prostitute much
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I can't afford more gigs.
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Here, lets not make this anymore "xHD" devices with crappy bitrates please. Anthing can capture in 4K but if the bitrate is crap then the video will look like ****. There's no phone today that can fully utilized 4K bandwidth as their pokey CPUs couldn't keep up. Hell my 2Ghz Core I3 laptop has a tough time playing real 4K and you are gonna try and insinuate that a mobile CPU with slow NAND as a backup can record and process 4K video?
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Note 3 4k video looks better then some 1080p blu ray movies. So 4k on a mobile is still substantially better then 1080p shooting on a mobiel device. Just saying
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Guys, the shame is not that Nexus 5 doesn't record 4K videos, but that it doesn't record 1080p (or even 720p) videos at 60 FPS.
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This. baby steps. 4k is at least 5 years away from becoming mainstream and phones will likely be on the trail end of that adoption. Let's go ahead and hit standard HD video spec before we get all up in arms about a video format that isn't feasibly useful on such limited storage with very few outlets for playback
Which video setting is best?
Stick with 1080 in my opinion. 4k is still being adopted and chances are you don't even have a 4k display. There is no point in recording in a resolution that you don't have a display for due to its larger size in recording 4k
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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I don't think there'll be 4K on phones for awhile, 1440p has yet to be adopted with the exception of G3. Technology is always changing and it seems like you've already made your decision so why ask? Use 4K if u want, its up to you honestly.
By the way you're speaking about technology becoming old, by the time your son grows up 4K will become obsolete and another standard will be the standard. 4K prices are still very expensive and is not as mainstream as 1080p as it'll take time to adopt.
True but 4k would be more future proof than 1080p.
I guess the real question is what is the difference between 4k dci Vs 4k uhd?
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True but 4k would be more future proof than 1080p.
I guess the real question is what is the difference between 4k dci Vs 4k uhd?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions
UHD for Ultra HD
DCI for Digital Cinema Initiative
I could be wrong but I believe uhd is 30fps and DCI is 24fps. So for highest quality, choose uhd.
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4k on 1080p TV's will look sharper (in a sense) as the picture is scaled to 1/4.
If the phone had true 1080p @60fps with sound, then that would be the best recording format..
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Actually, UHD is not real 4K, DCI is real 4K. If you want actual 4K use DCI.
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Actually, UHD is not real 4K, DCI is real 4K. If you want actual 4K use DCI.
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^^^This
It's an ever growing problem that manufacturers are incorrectly marketing UHD as 4k when it isn't actually 4k at all.
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But there IS 4k on phones...
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I don't think there'll be 4K on phones for awhile, 1440p has yet to be adopted with the exception of G3. Technology is always changing and it seems like you've already made your decision so why ask? Use 4K if u want, its up to you honestly.
By the way you're speaking about technology becoming old, by the time your son grows up 4K will become obsolete and another standard will be the standard. 4K prices are still very expensive and is not as mainstream as 1080p as it'll take time to adopt.
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This post doesn't make sense. The OnePlus One does record in 4k, and that's why we're discussing recording modes. Are you talking about 4K Display's on phones?
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This post doesn't make sense. The OnePlus One does record in 4k, and that's why we're discussing recording modes. Are you talking about 4K Display's on phones?
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He's talking about displays. Obviously. Because look at the post he's quoting.
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But in the future all TV will be 4k or better. If I'm taking baby videos of my son I would like them on be 4k. So, again, what is everyone using?
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This is exactly how I see it. However I'm still recording in 1080p. Most of the stuff I film isn't worth storing, so 1080p is fine.
If I would go for 4k I would choose UHD as this is the standard for TV. DCI is true 4k but only used for cinematic recording, so I guess this means black borders on your 4k TV.
At least this is how I understood it, it does not mean it's right [emoji317]
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Stick with 1080 in my opinion. 4k is still being adopted and chances are you don't even have a 4k display. There is no point in recording in a resolution that you don't have a display for due to its larger size in recording 4k
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I see a lot of people saying the same but for the life of me I just can't understand why. In the future when you have a UHD TV would you not want to see your recordings in UHD instead of HD?
I don't have a UHD TV yet but I do have a 4k TV but I would always record in the highest quality I can.
Btw, right now UHD seems to be broken.
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I see a lot of people saying the same but for the life of me I just can't understand why. In the future when you have a UHD TV would you not want to see your recordings in UHD instead of HD?
I don't have a UHD TV yet but I do have a 4k TV but I would always record in the highest quality I can.
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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This is why: http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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That article's stupid. Plus it's three years old. I don't care how intelligent the author attempts to portray himself as by quoting a lot of math, I can and do see a difference between 1080P and 4K on a standard size tv screen. What a load of rubbish.
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Another load of [email protected] from CNET. Anyone that looks at the two screens beside each other can see the difference unless your eyesight is bad.
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That article's stupid. Plus it's three years old. I don't care how intelligent the author attempts to portray himself as by quoting a lot of math, I can and do see a difference between 1080P and 4K on a standard size tv screen. What a load of rubbish.
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Strictly resolution wise I see no difference. You may see other differences in terms of brightness and color reproduction but you can get that on newer or higher end 1080p displays.
BTW, the article was updated in May 2014.
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Another load of [email protected] from CNET. Anyone that looks at the two screens beside each other can see the difference unless your eyesight is bad.
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I take it you own a 4K TV?
There is a way to capture videos at 1080P in 60FPS NOT in slow motion and with sound?
Thanks!!
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There is a way to capture videos at 1080P in 60FPS NOT in slow motion and with sound?
Thanks!!
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Not that I can find so far, that's one part of the OPO that disappointed me a little. I used to record in full 1080p 60fps in everything with my previous phones, just looks so much better. Here's hoping a software update will allow it.
Maybe we just need another app?
I'm looking for the same thing... the hardware is powerful enough
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There is a way to capture videos at 1080P in 60FPS NOT in slow motion and with sound?
Thanks!!
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ignore, im stupid
I'm personally leaning towards the 1080p 60FPS video from my brief tests. It's SO smooth. I wish we had a 4K 60FPS option...
What does everyone else prefer?
I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I dont either but its considerably sharper on my screens and allows for zooming
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I would record at 4K 30fps over 1080 60fps because 1080 60fps is blurry compared to all other modes. I personally prefer 1080 @30fps because i dont have any 4K compatible tvs or computers.
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I've never noticed blur. Did you notice on the phone or when viewed on a larger screen?
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I dont either but its considerably sharper on my screens and allows for zooming
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I didn't know that.. I'll have to test the zoom.
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I've never noticed blur. Did you notice on the phone or when viewed on a larger screen?
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On the phone for sure, I haven't looked on a larger screen lately as I sent my phone to google on an RMA. I get the new device in a day or so so I'll have to look then.
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I didn't know that.. I'll have to test the zoom.
On the phone for sure, I haven't looked on a larger screen lately as I sent my phone to google on an RMA. I get the new device in a day or so so I'll have to look then.
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I do lol thats why I use 4k cuz i can zoom without messing up the video quality
Either way, 60fps makes me want to barf and looks too fake. Like when people use the 120fps filter on their TV's. I think with free storage, may as well use 4k @ 30. Although, I feel the image stabilization is stronger @ 1080