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not entirely sure whats the difference between the two?
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not entirely sure whats the difference between the two?
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I'm a sense guy,so not much exp. with cm. My foggy memory believes that cm7(rc for release canidate) is ready for everyday use public consumption. Nightlies are built by(here's where my memory goes! Gimme a break I'm old!) a bot which fixes and changes things,which may or may not break other things. That about the extent of my knowledge on this. The experts on this should be on they're way. lol
I'm no expert but the cm7 stable is android 2.3.3 the cm7 rc-1 is 2.3.4 the latest nightlies are 2.3.5.. I recommend the nightlies, they are more stable in many ways than the stable version of.. The latest is #179
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This is standard software development stuff.
"Nightlies" are like alpha level software containing the absolute latest bug fixes and new features for an existing program with little or no testing outside of the developers. Whether the various features and fixes are compiled by a daemon or not is irrelevant. Some nightlies are very stable with few bugs, some are bug riddled garbage. I'm currently using the CM7 nightly from 9-1, and I've found it to be very stable and only had one or two small issues.
The experimental releases are release candidates, which is just a friendly term for a late stage beta. Generally, they may contain more bugs than what should be released, but the developers released them into the wild because they believed the to be close to ready for release and needed more people would test them.
A Stable version is just that, stable. It has been extensively tested and either has no bugs, or has only minor bugs that have all been well documented.
Which should you use?
You've got a few sensible options.
a. Stick to stable releases. You'll miss out on the latest and greatest developments, but your shift will be as stable and reliable as possible.
b. Install every nightly as they come out. (they don't actually come out every night, we haven't had a new one since 9-1) If you get a bad one, which happens, just roll back to the last one that worked for you. You will spend a lot of time messing with your phone and will have to deal with bugs, but you'll always get to try out the latest and greatest. Just be sure that when you have bugs, you share useful bug reports with the developers.
c. Start with the stable. If you find there are things broken that you don't want to miss, go through the changelogs and forums to find a more or less stable nightly that has what you're missing and move to it. Stay there until there's another stable release.
wow thank you guys for the usefull information. I'm normally a sense rom guy so this is kinda a new ball game for me. I decided to go with this due to I hear its way faster and has more space .
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I'm on Gummy Nightly 4.4.2 and I'm looking for something more stable. Life is a bit hectic right now so I'm not able to constantly flash a new rom.
What has been the best 4.4.2 rom that you've had the most success with?
to each there own .
moderators dont like these types of threads cuz they cause arguments
Beanstalk and Liquidsmooth! Waiting for the Pac-Man release!
If life is to hectic to find a rom I suggest stock.
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I'm liking my PA 4.4 pa_d2vzw-4.0-BETA-20131208 that one it seems to be the only one with a functional camera so far.
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Whats the most sold KitKat Rom right now?
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Define "most solid"...
All you are going to get is people's limited opinions. Plus, if someone has only used 1 or 2 different ROMs - vs ALL of the ones available - they really can't comment
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Define "most solid"...
All you are going to get is people's limited opinions. Plus, if someone has only used 1 or 2 different ROMs - vs ALL of the ones available - they really can't comment
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I meant to say "stable" I just want a rom where the basic functions like Camera work and I'm able to use instagram etc without it crashing. Gummy is fine, but not being able to use the camera is a big thing. I would like a multi-window feature that Hyperdrive has, but I'd like to stay at 4.4.2.
Also, no I will never go back to stock. As for those who have used one or two different roms their opinions are still valid. They can say whether it was stable or not.
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to each there own .
moderators dont like these types of threads cuz they cause arguments
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Lol what do all the nerds start typing in caps lock? its a thread dude in the appropriate area.
GlitchMob said:
I meant to say "stable" I just want a rom where the basic functions like Camera work and I'm able to use instagram etc without it crashing. Gummy is fine, but not being able to use the camera is a big thing.
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A ROM with a non-functioning camera would never even get consideration from me ! Same applies to ROMs with no working data. Does the Gummy thread tell you the camera doesn't work ? I'd hope so !!
For what it's worth, I've tried the following KK ROMs (with my opinion/comments):
Beanstalk (Gideon's build) - good ROM, no complaints that I can recall.
Omni (Gideon's build) - too plain or simple (or boring) for me. Didn't have a few features that I've grown to like (I blame PAC for that !!). It was stable though.
LiquidSmooth (both the LS team version and Gideon's) - my preferred ROM at the moment. Runs fine, everything works, and has many of the features I like. Between two builds a week and a half apart, I see add'l things added too.
ParanoidAndroid (notta's build) - can't recall any details at the moment.
I suggest trying ParanoidAndroid 4.0 BETA. Yes, it is a beta but it is very stable. I have been using it since Notta switched to 4.4.x. The are still working out small bugs (like every other KK ROM), but like I said, it's very stable.
It does not have multi-window. For that I suggest Omni ROM. I've been using that on my ASUS TF300T and it works awesome!
As evident by some above commentary, XDA is not a support site and users are expected to test all Roms to make their own, independent, determinations as to what is stable for them.
Thread closed.
This thread can be in violation of the XDA rules, but those were not clear in this regard I have therefore still opened this thread and I would like to ask the MODs to close this thread if it does appear to be in violation of the rules. I also would like to mention that this thread does not have the intention to disrespect any developers and that I appreciate the work every dev has done for the Note 3.
What I would like to be discussed in this thread is the stability of the different Android Lollipop roms. Since most of the devs have not made a seperate thread for their (at this stage alpha) builds of Lollipop. I would like to collect the experiences of the users from these alpha's.
At this stage there are 3 builds of Lollipop that I know of in alphabetical order:
Slayer (it is said to be a port, but since the original rom was for the HLTETMO. I think that it is mostly only a change in the 'device checking' file. The dev has himself stated that he does not intend to make any more builds in the near future it was more a proof of concept. The unofficial thread for Slayer's rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-cyanogenmod-12-lollipop-build-1-16-t2942687
Temasek: this is just an experimental build this dev has posted. I do not have any statement regarding support. Now on preview 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56934897&postcount=6046
Zion: also just an initial build (I think). Also no statements regarding support. The build from ZION: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56900235&postcount=542
I would like the structure of the posts in this thread to be:
Device: hlte/hltespr/hltetmo/hltevzw/hlteatt/hltexx/hlteusc/hltevan
ROM: Slayer/Temasek/Zion
What works: WIFI/Calling/etc.
What does not work/bugs: Random reboots, no network
Other remarks:
Again, if I have offended anyone in anyway I would like to apologise and I didn't intend to do so. Mod's could you then remove this thread.
And most importantly I would like to thank the devs for releasing these builds.
I can't even get temasek's build to boot.
speedyjay said:
I can't even get temasek's build to boot.
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Booted and with LTE.
temasek said:
Booted and with LTE.
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Share and share alike my good friend?? Lol
I've been using android 5.0 from slayer por as daily driver, I have HLTE and I have wifi, LTE, bluetooth and all works so nice and beautiful. The main problems are the camera and there are a lot of apps that not work
Today I will to try Temasek's port
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I've been using android 5.0 from slayer por as daily driver, I have HLTE and I have wifi, LTE, bluetooth and all works so nice and beautiful. The main problems are the camera and there are a lot of apps that not work
Today I will to try Temasek's port
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Port? It's built from source and not a port.
PREVIEW 2 is up.
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Port? It's built from source and not a port.
PREVIEW 2 is up.
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Sorry mistake
Downloading !!
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Sorry mistake
Downloading !!
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It's a preview so don't get so excited.
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It's a preview so don't get so excited.
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Works very well, LTE works normal, wifi too, I can do calls without any problem, and very very smooth and fast.
Problems for now: There are apps that not work, but very very good job. Thanks really
Edit: camera not works.
Wait where is zion's build? How's google now on all these builds? On Slayer's it's broken / causes reboots
My two cents on the port and on temaseks build.
The port is quite stable and random reboots usually come from incompatible apps or missing libs (as i read). I have managed to rest a lot of apps causing me trouble, but a lot of them are not yet optimized for L. The rom also has anomalies, strange stuff like closing all apps will close system ui (which is a bug not a feature, just in case i confused you). Weird stuff crash, such as Documents, which seems to be the mother of all other apps since it uses it to pick files for attach and e.t.c..
where as temaseks is very fragile. Not sure why but i barely made it to the homescreen, it kept on crashing a lot and rebooting prior to the homescreen.
Both are sort of proof of concepts, the port however is quite damn stable for an initial preview build, and yea, both surprised me with their early appearance
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My two cents on the port and on temaseks build.
The port is quite stable and random reboots usually come from incompatible apps or missing libs (as i read). I have managed to rest a lot of apps causing me trouble, but a lot of them are not yet optimized for L. The rom also has anomalies, strange stuff like closing all apps will close system ui (which is a bug not a feature, just in case i confused you). Weird stuff crash, such as Documents, which seems to be the mother of all other apps since it uses it to pick files for attach and e.t.c..
where as temaseks is very fragile. Not sure why but i barely made it to the homescreen, it kept on crashing a lot and rebooting prior to the homescreen.
Both are sort of proof of concepts, the port however is quite damn stable for an initial preview build, and yea, both surprised me with their early appearance
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Preview 2?
Tema prev 2 fixes the touch button wake for me. But WiFi + Google now still cases reboot. Google now hotword doesn't seem to work which it does on slayer. All camera apps fc. And the home button still doesn't wake the device. Aside from those it seems near perfect. Thanks a ton!
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Preview 2?
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Actually no my friend, i just read it 10 minutes ago and am downloading as i write.
I did not want to spam around and used this thread exactly for expressing opinions, as i know both roms are early stage builds and none of the devs should be bombarded with requests anyway.
Will report back.
I just need spotify working them I'm happy as Larry lol
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Preview 2?
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One hell of a ROM at the moment, havent had a single crash and loaded loads of apps that used to crash in nearly all Lollipop builds. Too bad your ROM doesnt have the flashlight in the notification drawer, was very useful.
Right I must be blind. I can only find the ROM thread that is a cyanogenmod 12 PORT.
Can't even find any other Lollipop ROM!
can someone share the links please?
Hope their compatible with the international Note 3
Suggestion
hom.hom said:
This thread can be in violation of the XDA rules, but those were not clear in this regard I have therefore still opened this thread and I would like to ask the MODs to close this thread if it does appear to be in violation of the rules. I also would like to mention that this thread does not have the intention to disrespect any developers and that I appreciate the work every dev has done for the Note 3......
At this stage there are 3 builds of Lollipop that I know of in alphabetical order:
Slayer (it is said to be a port, but since the original rom was for the HLTETMO. I think that it is mostly only a change in the 'device checking' file. The dev has himself stated that he does not intend to make any more builds in the near future it was more a proof of concept.
Temasek: this is just an experimental build this dev has posted. I do not have any statement regarding support.
Zion: also just an initial build (I think). Also no statements regarding support.
I would like the structure of the posts in this thread to be:
ROM: Slayer/Temasek/Zion
What works: WIFI/Calling/etc.
What does not work/bugs: Random reboots, no network
Other remarks:
Again, if I have offended anyone in anyway I would like to apologise and I didn't intend to do so. Mod's could you then remove this thread.
And most importantly I would like to thank the devs for releasing these builds.
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We can assume there will be a ton of reports here of what is working and what isn't (probably duplicates or even 5 times the same report as we saw in Unnofficial CM12 Port from Jamal's thread...). I would advise everyone to post phone info after every report. Because there is a confusion of what is working on which model.... You might wanna add this to OP so people can actually see since my post will be long forgotten after pages and pages of comments.
Plus you might add link to Jamal's thread and download links for Zion and Temasek's ROM... Not everyone has those since they are buried in an ocean of posts over at Jamall's thread. @AndroidInsanity here they are:
1. @jamal2367 thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-cyanogenmod-12-lollipop-build-1-16-t2942687
2. @ZION959 cm 12 unofficial
https://s.basketbuild.com/devs/Zion959/L/HLTE/
3. @temasek Build
http://d-h.st/users/temasek/?fld_id=41330#files
SM-N9005 (would be an example, so people know what phone is about. I know some have details listed in signature but not everyone).
and as always noone cares about exynos note 3...
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and as always noone cares about exynos note 3...
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And rightfully so, if you buy an exynos device you should know that developers do not support these devices. Because the documentation of exynos chips is practically non existent. I am sorry, but with regard to custom aosp roms and devices with exynos chip consider this an expensive lesson. For support for these devices complain to Samsung.
Need your guys/girls opinions on what best stable Rom and Kernel at the moment for the galaxy s6 for everyday use.
Thanks ?
waiting for answer too
Personally, Frankenstein ROM + Aldeon Kernel.
Might change it to a AOSP-based ROM soon, like LOS14.1, but the camera with non-stock ROMs is worse. And on 8.0 and beyond, hardware encoding doesn't work so that's not even really an option - for me, at least.
Best rom?
Sir you want it... you get it
I am working at my website and trying to update it as often as possible.
There you get a bunch of the newest/best custom roms and ports for the S6!
Give me a feedback if possible
Website:
https://united-android.jimdo.com
ArkPly said:
Sir you want it... you get it
I am working at my website and trying to update it as often as possible.
There you get a bunch of the newest/best custom roms and ports for the S6!
Give me a feedback if possible
Website:
https://united-android.jimdo.com
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Bad idea for a website ?
I don't imagine you'll ever get a lot of traffic on it, considering that XDA is the go-to for ROMs and kernels, and people prefer to get their things directly from the source.
Design looks nice, though.
Ahhhmmm....
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Bad idea for a website
I don't imagine you'll ever get a lot of traffic on it, considering that XDA is the go-to for ROMs and kernels, and people prefer to get their things directly from the source.
Design looks nice, though.
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Thanks for that quick feedback!:good:
My website´s aim is to give JUST the BEST of custom stuff for the S6 and NOT ALL like XDA...
You can imagine my website as a place where just tested roms by myself are posted with a nice review!
I comparision to XDA I am the one and only person who can decide which Rom is going to be posted on my website(The dev of that rom ofcourse to) and there is the big difference!
You get 100% good and safe stuff for your device, because I did all the risky stuff by testing the roms already!
So I think you´re wrong mate... I surely will get a lot of traffic on my website
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Personally, Frankenstein ROM + Aldeon Kernel.
Might change it to a AOSP-based ROM soon, like LOS14.1, but the camera with non-stock ROMs is worse. And on 8.0 and beyond, hardware encoding doesn't work so that's not even really an option - for me, at least.
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Might have to have a look at Frankenstein ROM and see how it is, do you know if there is any major bugs or heavy battery drain with that ROM?
ArkPly said:
Sir you want it... you get it
I am working at my website and trying to update it as often as possible.
There you get a bunch of the newest/bestcustom roms and ports for the S6!
Give me a feedback if possible
Website:
https://united-android.jimdo.com
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Thanks ☺
Also how would i go about joining your MIUI 9 beta testing, wouldn't mind helping if you need testers. ?
JordieSnipezHD said:
Might have to have a look at Frankenstein ROM and see how it is, do you know if there is any major bugs or heavy battery drain with that ROM?
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No, none. Battery is quite well.
Honestly, it's been the best I've found. I've looked through most, if not all, ROMs that could be daily drivers. The Ultimate Nougat S8+ ROM isn't bad either, but it's more bloated - it does have extra features though.
Currently trying Resurrection Remix 6.0 (Oreo/AOSP). It's as I would've thought - aside of the camera being crap (which isn't really a thing about this ROM, but any AOSP ROM), everything else works well, except for the part where it heats up... A LOT.
Hi,
I am interested in that too, as Samsung won't update S6 further more.
What I understand is we have Resurrection and Frankenstein, that is it right?
No news on Cyanogenmod discontinued with no other stable alike. I used back then with S2.
I have a question though, what is port? I found some people asking "is that a rom or a port".
Thanks.
ahmedhamdy90 said:
Hi,
I am interested in that too, as Samsung won't update S6 further more.
What I understand is we have Resurrection and Frankenstein, that is it right?
No news on Cyanogenmod discontinued with no other stable alike. I used back then with S2.
I have a question though, what is port? I found some people asking "is that a rom or a port".
Thanks.
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CyanogenMod is dead. LineageOS is its replacement.
LOS14 (Android 7.1.2) and LOS15 (Android 8.1) are the current ones.
Ports are ROMs as well. For example, an S8 port, is simply said a combination of an S6 and an S8 ROM in such a way that it'll work on the S6.
On one hand, you have TouchWiz-based ROMs, such as Frankenstein, Ultimate Nougat S8+, Nemesis Nougat, Global Elite, Superlite S8 (or something like that, I forget the name), a couple of A8+ Ports, etc. They look like Samsungs usually do. If you're looking for a ROM that's as stable as possible, this is your best bet.
On the other hand, you have AOSP-based ROMs, such as LineageOS. In the same category, you also have CrDroid, NexusOS, Resurrection Remix, AICP, AOSPExtended, XenonHD, OmniROM, AOKP, etc, but they are basically just LOS with extra features (don't mean to offend the devs or anything, but it's true). They look like stock Android - the way Pixel, or Nexus phones look. Latest features, quickest, but occasionally have bugs because of stuff being closed source.
And then, you also have ROMs like MIUI, which isn't TouchWiz, but isn't really AOSP either.
King-V said:
Personally, Frankenstein ROM + Aldeon Kernel.
Might change it to a AOSP-based ROM soon, like LOS14.1, but the camera with non-stock ROMs is worse. And on 8.0 and beyond, hardware encoding doesn't work so that's not even really an option - for me, at least.
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Just installed Frankenstein ROM + Aldeon Kernel and it seems pretty snappier than stock now, gonna test this out for 2weeks and see if everything is good.
Thanks
Edit: been testing it for a few weeks and seems great stable and smooth and battery life seems great. Might try out LOS and see how that preforms for abit.
*Recommend Frankenstein ROM + Aldeon Kernel as a daily as its really smooth. ?
JordieSnipezHD said:
Just installed Frankenstein ROM + Aldeon Kernel and it seems pretty snappier than stock now, gonna test this out for 2weeks and see if everything is good.
Thanks
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Great, I might follow this, waiting for your report back. I think I might go with LOS and give it a try.
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King-V said:
CyanogenMod is dead. LineageOS is its replacement.
LOS14 (Android 7.1.2) and LOS15 (Android 8.1) are the current ones.
Ports are ROMs as well. For example, an S8 port, is simply said a combination of an S6 and an S8 ROM in such a way that it'll work on the S6.
On one hand, you have TouchWiz-based ROMs, such as Frankenstein, Ultimate Nougat S8+, Nemesis Nougat, Global Elite, Superlite S8 (or something like that, I forget the name), a couple of A8+ Ports, etc. They look like Samsungs usually do. If you're looking for a ROM that's as stable as possible, this is your best bet.
On the other hand, you have AOSP-based ROMs, such as LineageOS. In the same category, you also have CrDroid, NexusOS, Resurrection Remix, AICP, AOSPExtended, XenonHD, OmniROM, AOKP, etc, but they are basically just LOS with extra features (don't mean to offend the devs or anything, but it's true). They look like stock Android - the way Pixel, or Nexus phones look. Latest features, quickest, but occasionally have bugs because of stuff being closed source.
And then, you also have ROMs like MIUI, which isn't TouchWiz, but isn't really AOSP either.
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Very informative post, thank you very much for your efforts
Would you support one more thing? What tool should I use to install a kernel and a ROM, not to mention take a complete backup first? There are some tutorials out there I know, but I have been out for a long time now, so I want to know the best programs and methods from a trusted source.
Thanks.
Well, there's not many options in that regard - just one, actually: TWRP. Most ROMs/kernels on this site can only be installed using it. It also does full backups (except of the internal storage like photos and such). It has to be flashed using Odin - considering how well known this device is, there should be plenty of step-by-step videos for that process.
It's also a good idea to have a stock firmware and Odin on your PC, in case something goes really bad and you have to start from the beginning. Probably won't happen, but just in case.
Ports/Roms
So a PORT is a similar Software(System) from another device which is ported to our (In this case the S6)... For example there are S8+ ports (So the S8+ software with some of its features which works on S6)...
You may check my website for stuff like that ^^ :laugh:
https://united-android.jimdo.com/
(Go to the downloads section!)
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JordieSnipezHD said:
Thanks
Also how would i go about joining your MIUI 9 beta testing, wouldn't mind helping if you need testers.
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Yes that would be nice! The group link is on my website! Just join it to get a beta tester!
https://united-android.jimdo.com/
:fingers-crossed:
I've tried everything, and I keep going back to MiPA,....
Last time I used Frankenstein, some time ago when it first came out, I believe I ditched it because I was really into making my own custom boot animations, and that kernal didnt jive with my stuff.. I will give it a shot again now tho
I have never seen so many problems with an official rom like Pie for OP6.
Is it possible that the OP company is simply testing this rom for the new OP6t?
nabbed said:
I have never seen so many problems with an official rom like Pie for OP6.
Is it possible that the OP company is simply testing this rom for the new OP6t?
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what problems do u have
because i dont have any
I have no problems either, maybe perform a factory reset, this is highly recommended after major update and usually solves any possible problem...
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I have never seen so many problems with an official rom like Pie for OP6.
Is it possible that the OP company is simply testing this rom for the new OP6t?
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I am facing many problems in Official Pie release:
1. Sometimes GPS location doesn't get updated.
2. Abrupt device restart
3. While connecting with bluetooth in Car, volume gets automatically decreased but phone shows that volume is full.
4. Loudspeaker volume is low as compared to Oneplus with Oreo.
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I have no problems either, maybe perform a factory reset, this is highly recommended after major update and usually solves any possible problem...
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-fluffy- said:
what problems do u have
because i dont have any
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You guys don't understand. I am not and will not use the Pie, because Oreo kinda works already, and I am not the kinda guy who fixes things that aren't broken.
However, I have been following the official OP6 forum on their website, and the volume of new threads and complaints about broken things has increased 10-fold since the release of stable Pie. I've never seen anything like that in any smartphone forum on any site.
I think that since the release of Pie stable, the number of new complaining threads is easily in multiple hundreds if not thousands.
Hence my idea about them releasing it early to fix bugs for OP6t release.
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You guys don't understand. I am not and will not use the Pie, because Oreo kinda works already, and I am not the kinda guy who fixes things that aren't broken.
However, I have been following the official OP6 forum on their website, and the volume of new threads and complaints about broken things has increased 10-fold since the release of stable Pie. I've never seen anything like that in any smartphone forum on any site.
I think that since the release of Pie stable, the number of new complaining threads is easily in multiple hundreds if not thousands.
Hence my idea about them releasing it early to fix bugs for OP6t release.
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okay, than how do you think apple release 11 beta version before dropping stable but there are still some bugs. On the other hand, oneplus only released 4 dp before stable came out, obviously there's always missing, but at least you can rollback to oreo if you want
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I am facing many problems in Official Pie release:
1. Sometimes GPS location doesn't get updated.
2. Abrupt device restart
3. While connecting with bluetooth in Car, volume gets automatically decreased but phone shows that volume is full.
4. Loudspeaker volume is low as compared to Oneplus with Oreo.
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Do a full wipe and flash the OTA file. Then report back.
nabbed said:
You guys don't understand. I am not and will not use the Pie, because Oreo kinda works already, and I am not the kinda guy who fixes things that aren't broken.
However, I have been following the official OP6 forum on their website, and the volume of new threads and complaints about broken things has increased 10-fold since the release of stable Pie. I've never seen anything like that in any smartphone forum on any site.
I think that since the release of Pie stable, the number of new complaining threads is easily in multiple hundreds if not thousands.
Hence my idea about them releasing it early to fix bugs for OP6t release.
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Hmm? Are you new to operating systems in general? Every time a major update hits (every year), bugs are bound to happen and it's why updates/bugfixes exist. Either do what you were already suggested (factory reset) or wait a while. The 6T has nothing to do with major updates having some wrinkles from the get-go and people generally not doing a factory reset every time a major update comes while expecting long term stability.
nirogu325 said:
Hmm? Are you new to operating systems in general? Every time a major update hits (every year), bugs are bound to happen and it's why updates/bugfixes exist. Either do what you were already suggested (factory reset) or wait a while. The 6T has nothing to do with major updates having some wrinkles from the get-go and people generally not doing a factory reset every time a major update comes while expecting long term stability.
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I said that I did not use Pie, nor was I planning on using it. Therefore, there's no need to factory reset.
I also said that I've never seen such an unprecedented volume of complaints after an OS release or update - hundreds of new threads, thousands of people complaining.
No, I'm not new to android, just look at my stats.
nabbed said:
I said that I did not use Pie, nor was I planning on using it. Therefore, there's no need to factory reset.
I also said that I've never seen such an unprecedented volume of complaints after an OS release or update - hundreds of new threads, thousands of people complaining.
No, I'm not new to android, just look at my stats.
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My point about operating systems in general still stands. You will always read about people having issues but you'll barely read about users not having any issues. I am a stable OOS 9.0 user without issues. I did my homework by backing up just so I could start that new OS fresh and couldn't be happier. I have seen hundreds of complaints about new OS updates before, just take a look at Windows 10 build 1809 and that's just one example of many that supports my point of new major updates in general. In the end, it boils down to your choice of staying where you are, backing up to start fresh like I and many others did or just wait in the bench for several months until the dust settles.
nirogu325 said:
My point about operating systems in general still stands. You will always read about people having issues but you'll barely read about users not having any issues. I am a stable OOS 9.0 user without issues. I did my homework by backing up just so I could start that new OS fresh and couldn't be happier. I have seen hundreds of complaints about new OS updates before, just take a look at Windows 10 build 1809 and that's just one example of many that supports my point of new major updates in general. In the end, it boils down to your choice of staying where you are, backing up to start fresh like I and many others did or just wait in the bench for several months until the dust settles.
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What you say is certainly true, but here's more facts to consider, so maybe you can see my point better.
Last time, when OP updated to Oreo, it took them about 3 months from when Google released it.
This time, it was about 6 weeks. I think that's a clear indication that the OS was rushed this time around. The reason, imo, is in my original post.
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I said that I did not use Pie, nor was I planning on using it. Therefore, there's no need to factory reset.
I also said that I've never seen such an unprecedented volume of complaints after an OS release or update - hundreds of new threads, thousands of people complaining.
No, I'm not new to android, just look at my stats.
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How, or better yet why would you come here to complain about something you haven't even tried? I've run every OOS version since launch. Many of those complaints are maybe legit, but just as many if not more are most likely user induced. I personally have seen very few major issues even on the beta versions, and I haven't experienced any of the things you listed.
b.huss2 said:
How, or better yet why would you come here to complain about something you haven't even tried? I've run every OOS version since launch. Many of those complaints are maybe legit, but just as many if not more are most likely user induced. I personally have seen very few major issues even on the beta versions, and I haven't experienced any of the things you listed.
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My frIend, I'm not complaining, I'm discussing.
Also, it's true that a lot of complaints are user error. However, I was commenting on the overall volume and rate of complaints. As the overall rate increased 10-fold, so did the rate of legitimate complaints. Makes sense?
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What you say is certainly true, but here's more facts to consider, so maybe you can see my point better.
Last time, when OP updated to Oreo, it took them about 3 months from when Google released it.
This time, it was about 6 weeks. I think that's a clear indication that the OS was rushed this time around. The reason, imo, is in my original post.
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Again, the decision is yours. No company can please everyone. Some want faster updates while some want more stable releases. If this was indeed "rushed" I would have experienced instability even after clean flashing, same with other users. I don't know if you are deliberately omitting the fact that there were Pie Preview betas long before the official release for both OOS and HydrogenOS. I'm sorry but I can't give much weight to your point because my experience differs greatly from what you're stating and because you are yet to give the OS a chance. I suggest you give it a chance. I repeat, the decision is yours and my statement is based on my own experience.
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My frIend, I'm not complaining, I'm discussing.
Also, it's true that a lot of complaints are user error. However, I was commenting on the overall volume and rate of complaints. As the overall rate increased 10-fold, so did the rate of legitimate complaints. Makes sense?
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I get what you're saying. I don't frequent the OnePlus forums; you get a lot of people there that don't have a clue.
nirogu325 said:
Again, the decision is yours. No company can please everyone. Some want faster updates while some want more stable releases. If this was indeed "rushed" I would have experienced instability even after clean flashing, same with other users. I don't know if you are deliberately omitting the fact that there were Pie Preview betas long before the official release for both OOS and HydrogenOS. I'm sorry but I can't give much weight to your point because my experience differs greatly from what you're stating and because you are yet to give the OS a chance. I suggest you give it a chance. I repeat, the decision is yours and my statement is based on my own experience.
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Maybe you should visit the OP6 official forums, see for yourself.
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Maybe you should visit the OP6 official forums, see for yourself.
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What I am seeing for myself is my experience with the official stable release which has been great and not basing my complaints solely other people's feedback. That is called forming my own opinion. People that clean flashed like me encouraged you to give the OS a chance yet you insist on pointing to others. What was the point of this thread again?
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b.huss2 said:
I get what you're saying. I don't frequent the OnePlus forums; you get a lot of people there that don't have a clue.
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Bingo. Reason #1 for not even bothering going there again.
I don't want pie either, had it went back to Oreo. Phone keeps bugging me to update, tired of being pestered. Haven't found a way to stop the update messages.
Official Pie is smooth, fast, and bug-free. OnePlus forums are full of morons. Very few "pie bug" threads on xda, that tells you all you need to know about how "buggy" pie is.
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What I am seeing for myself is my experience with the official stable release which has been great and not basing my complaints solely other people's feedback. That is called forming my own opinion. People that clean flashed like me encouraged you to give the OS a chance yet you insist on pointing to others. What was the point of this thread again?
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Bingo. Reason #1 for not even bothering going there again.
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So you can have your opinion but others cannot ? Regardless what OP states in his post any software is bound to have error,bugs, improvement points . just because you are content with using the phone with said issues if any does not mean it does not have any issues or that every one should be content with using the OS as is.
XDA is a place to develop , improve and to an extent troubleshoot . I agree what OP states in his statement is broad and should have listed in his first which he later did . Its better to respond to those issues , if you can fix them or have a work around but do not discourage anyone from expressing their views.
As you said every one forms their options based on there usage , let him state his views