Pie. The official rom - problems - OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers

I have never seen so many problems with an official rom like Pie for OP6.
Is it possible that the OP company is simply testing this rom for the new OP6t?

nabbed said:
I have never seen so many problems with an official rom like Pie for OP6.
Is it possible that the OP company is simply testing this rom for the new OP6t?
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what problems do u have
because i dont have any

I have no problems either, maybe perform a factory reset, this is highly recommended after major update and usually solves any possible problem...

nabbed said:
I have never seen so many problems with an official rom like Pie for OP6.
Is it possible that the OP company is simply testing this rom for the new OP6t?
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I am facing many problems in Official Pie release:
1. Sometimes GPS location doesn't get updated.
2. Abrupt device restart
3. While connecting with bluetooth in Car, volume gets automatically decreased but phone shows that volume is full.
4. Loudspeaker volume is low as compared to Oneplus with Oreo.

Pachenko_Gr said:
I have no problems either, maybe perform a factory reset, this is highly recommended after major update and usually solves any possible problem...
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-fluffy- said:
what problems do u have
because i dont have any
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You guys don't understand. I am not and will not use the Pie, because Oreo kinda works already, and I am not the kinda guy who fixes things that aren't broken.
However, I have been following the official OP6 forum on their website, and the volume of new threads and complaints about broken things has increased 10-fold since the release of stable Pie. I've never seen anything like that in any smartphone forum on any site.
I think that since the release of Pie stable, the number of new complaining threads is easily in multiple hundreds if not thousands.
Hence my idea about them releasing it early to fix bugs for OP6t release.

nabbed said:
You guys don't understand. I am not and will not use the Pie, because Oreo kinda works already, and I am not the kinda guy who fixes things that aren't broken.
However, I have been following the official OP6 forum on their website, and the volume of new threads and complaints about broken things has increased 10-fold since the release of stable Pie. I've never seen anything like that in any smartphone forum on any site.
I think that since the release of Pie stable, the number of new complaining threads is easily in multiple hundreds if not thousands.
Hence my idea about them releasing it early to fix bugs for OP6t release.
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okay, than how do you think apple release 11 beta version before dropping stable but there are still some bugs. On the other hand, oneplus only released 4 dp before stable came out, obviously there's always missing, but at least you can rollback to oreo if you want

garj_preet said:
I am facing many problems in Official Pie release:
1. Sometimes GPS location doesn't get updated.
2. Abrupt device restart
3. While connecting with bluetooth in Car, volume gets automatically decreased but phone shows that volume is full.
4. Loudspeaker volume is low as compared to Oneplus with Oreo.
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Do a full wipe and flash the OTA file. Then report back.

nabbed said:
You guys don't understand. I am not and will not use the Pie, because Oreo kinda works already, and I am not the kinda guy who fixes things that aren't broken.
However, I have been following the official OP6 forum on their website, and the volume of new threads and complaints about broken things has increased 10-fold since the release of stable Pie. I've never seen anything like that in any smartphone forum on any site.
I think that since the release of Pie stable, the number of new complaining threads is easily in multiple hundreds if not thousands.
Hence my idea about them releasing it early to fix bugs for OP6t release.
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Hmm? Are you new to operating systems in general? Every time a major update hits (every year), bugs are bound to happen and it's why updates/bugfixes exist. Either do what you were already suggested (factory reset) or wait a while. The 6T has nothing to do with major updates having some wrinkles from the get-go and people generally not doing a factory reset every time a major update comes while expecting long term stability.

nirogu325 said:
Hmm? Are you new to operating systems in general? Every time a major update hits (every year), bugs are bound to happen and it's why updates/bugfixes exist. Either do what you were already suggested (factory reset) or wait a while. The 6T has nothing to do with major updates having some wrinkles from the get-go and people generally not doing a factory reset every time a major update comes while expecting long term stability.
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I said that I did not use Pie, nor was I planning on using it. Therefore, there's no need to factory reset.
I also said that I've never seen such an unprecedented volume of complaints after an OS release or update - hundreds of new threads, thousands of people complaining.
No, I'm not new to android, just look at my stats.

nabbed said:
I said that I did not use Pie, nor was I planning on using it. Therefore, there's no need to factory reset.
I also said that I've never seen such an unprecedented volume of complaints after an OS release or update - hundreds of new threads, thousands of people complaining.
No, I'm not new to android, just look at my stats.
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My point about operating systems in general still stands. You will always read about people having issues but you'll barely read about users not having any issues. I am a stable OOS 9.0 user without issues. I did my homework by backing up just so I could start that new OS fresh and couldn't be happier. I have seen hundreds of complaints about new OS updates before, just take a look at Windows 10 build 1809 and that's just one example of many that supports my point of new major updates in general. In the end, it boils down to your choice of staying where you are, backing up to start fresh like I and many others did or just wait in the bench for several months until the dust settles.

nirogu325 said:
My point about operating systems in general still stands. You will always read about people having issues but you'll barely read about users not having any issues. I am a stable OOS 9.0 user without issues. I did my homework by backing up just so I could start that new OS fresh and couldn't be happier. I have seen hundreds of complaints about new OS updates before, just take a look at Windows 10 build 1809 and that's just one example of many that supports my point of new major updates in general. In the end, it boils down to your choice of staying where you are, backing up to start fresh like I and many others did or just wait in the bench for several months until the dust settles.
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What you say is certainly true, but here's more facts to consider, so maybe you can see my point better.
Last time, when OP updated to Oreo, it took them about 3 months from when Google released it.
This time, it was about 6 weeks. I think that's a clear indication that the OS was rushed this time around. The reason, imo, is in my original post.

nabbed said:
I said that I did not use Pie, nor was I planning on using it. Therefore, there's no need to factory reset.
I also said that I've never seen such an unprecedented volume of complaints after an OS release or update - hundreds of new threads, thousands of people complaining.
No, I'm not new to android, just look at my stats.
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How, or better yet why would you come here to complain about something you haven't even tried? I've run every OOS version since launch. Many of those complaints are maybe legit, but just as many if not more are most likely user induced. I personally have seen very few major issues even on the beta versions, and I haven't experienced any of the things you listed.

b.huss2 said:
How, or better yet why would you come here to complain about something you haven't even tried? I've run every OOS version since launch. Many of those complaints are maybe legit, but just as many if not more are most likely user induced. I personally have seen very few major issues even on the beta versions, and I haven't experienced any of the things you listed.
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My frIend, I'm not complaining, I'm discussing.
Also, it's true that a lot of complaints are user error. However, I was commenting on the overall volume and rate of complaints. As the overall rate increased 10-fold, so did the rate of legitimate complaints. Makes sense?

nabbed said:
What you say is certainly true, but here's more facts to consider, so maybe you can see my point better.
Last time, when OP updated to Oreo, it took them about 3 months from when Google released it.
This time, it was about 6 weeks. I think that's a clear indication that the OS was rushed this time around. The reason, imo, is in my original post.
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Again, the decision is yours. No company can please everyone. Some want faster updates while some want more stable releases. If this was indeed "rushed" I would have experienced instability even after clean flashing, same with other users. I don't know if you are deliberately omitting the fact that there were Pie Preview betas long before the official release for both OOS and HydrogenOS. I'm sorry but I can't give much weight to your point because my experience differs greatly from what you're stating and because you are yet to give the OS a chance. I suggest you give it a chance. I repeat, the decision is yours and my statement is based on my own experience.

nabbed said:
My frIend, I'm not complaining, I'm discussing.
Also, it's true that a lot of complaints are user error. However, I was commenting on the overall volume and rate of complaints. As the overall rate increased 10-fold, so did the rate of legitimate complaints. Makes sense?
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I get what you're saying. I don't frequent the OnePlus forums; you get a lot of people there that don't have a clue.

nirogu325 said:
Again, the decision is yours. No company can please everyone. Some want faster updates while some want more stable releases. If this was indeed "rushed" I would have experienced instability even after clean flashing, same with other users. I don't know if you are deliberately omitting the fact that there were Pie Preview betas long before the official release for both OOS and HydrogenOS. I'm sorry but I can't give much weight to your point because my experience differs greatly from what you're stating and because you are yet to give the OS a chance. I suggest you give it a chance. I repeat, the decision is yours and my statement is based on my own experience.
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Maybe you should visit the OP6 official forums, see for yourself.

nabbed said:
Maybe you should visit the OP6 official forums, see for yourself.
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What I am seeing for myself is my experience with the official stable release which has been great and not basing my complaints solely other people's feedback. That is called forming my own opinion. People that clean flashed like me encouraged you to give the OS a chance yet you insist on pointing to others. What was the point of this thread again?
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b.huss2 said:
I get what you're saying. I don't frequent the OnePlus forums; you get a lot of people there that don't have a clue.
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Bingo. Reason #1 for not even bothering going there again.

I don't want pie either, had it went back to Oreo. Phone keeps bugging me to update, tired of being pestered. Haven't found a way to stop the update messages.

Official Pie is smooth, fast, and bug-free. OnePlus forums are full of morons. Very few "pie bug" threads on xda, that tells you all you need to know about how "buggy" pie is.

nirogu325 said:
What I am seeing for myself is my experience with the official stable release which has been great and not basing my complaints solely other people's feedback. That is called forming my own opinion. People that clean flashed like me encouraged you to give the OS a chance yet you insist on pointing to others. What was the point of this thread again?
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Bingo. Reason #1 for not even bothering going there again.
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So you can have your opinion but others cannot ? Regardless what OP states in his post any software is bound to have error,bugs, improvement points . just because you are content with using the phone with said issues if any does not mean it does not have any issues or that every one should be content with using the OS as is.
XDA is a place to develop , improve and to an extent troubleshoot . I agree what OP states in his statement is broad and should have listed in his first which he later did . Its better to respond to those issues , if you can fix them or have a work around but do not discourage anyone from expressing their views.
As you said every one forms their options based on there usage , let him state his views

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Idea for a new rating system.

You know.. it's kind of crazy the captivate is as old as it is, and roms are still being produced (at a fairly large rate) for this device.
For some time now, it has become increasingly apparent XDA could use a slight overhaul or at least a new implementation for the end-users.
I would like to see a review system that allows you to browse by device, then shows you the android roms available based on which version you want to use. .....4.1, 4.0, 2.x......
From there, it could be broken down by most recent version vs. previous versions.
It could have different criteria for review such as battery life, lag problems, how "polished" it is, how well "featured" it is.
Maybe, even an optional set of code for any devs who want to include it which standardize some automatic reporting features so there could be "official XDA stats" and then "subjective user stats"
The reason I'm suggesting this is because even the Captivate which is now *old* by any standard has ample roms for it many of which change at a fast rate. If there was a system that let you see what the original problems were, when they were fixed, and what new problems people were having, it would make the process of rom selection a bit easier. Especially since users have drastically different needs from user to user, and different developers often have different priorities.
We could even have a "voting" system or something where if a user loads up CM10 and feel it has sufficient stutter, A user can go check the "current issues" related to that nightly and click "me too!" so that other users can get an idea of how many people are having what issues. This would also allow us to mark which version of a particular rom we are on and it could even have a system which "moves us" if we report going to a new version/go back device to device.
This would be particularly useful for people who want to give feedback about roms/help developers but, don't want to keep reporting already well known issues vainly, as it would prevent having to look back through 20 forum pages or 15 days of change-log to see what is what. It would also keep users from switching to a new rom, hoping it doesn't have X problem and finding out it does.. only to have to go back and recheck and see if they need to report that issue as well.
XDA is all about the developers but, it's important to consider that a lot of us don't mind giving input/helping/beta-ing and using roms and we even decide our next devices based on what things look like here. That is a 500$ purchase some of us make judging by the atmosphere here at XDA. It is a decision that in a lot of ways pays off, we get to use newer versions of android long after manufacturers quit caring.
If I don't care that the front camera is broken, in CM10 nightly X67 and doesn't work for me, but it works for another user.. Then this can be documented in a much easier to read, easier to follow fashion which would save someone else a lot of time if they don't want to gamble on an unstable camera since they scan lots of QR codes. Especially if the camera was in fact working for almost everyone in the nightly before.
Snow_fox said:
You know.. it's kind of crazy the captivate is as old as it is, and roms are still being produced (at a fairly large rate) for this device.
For some time now, it has become increasingly apparent XDA could use a slight overhaul or at least a new implementation for the end-users.
I would like to see a review system that allows you to browse by device, then shows you the android roms available based on which version you want to use. .....4.1, 4.0, 2.x......
From there, it could be broken down by most recent version vs. previous versions.
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I don't know how the rating system you spoke of would really work out because just as a problem with a ROM could be caused by an error in the code or build, the same problem could be caused by end-user error and any ratings based on that could cause problems with getting an accurate rating.
However what I very much agree with is your idea to break down the listings by software versions. At least if that was implemented within the Development section it would make navigating so much more efficient.
m1batt1 said:
I don't know how the rating system you spoke of would really work out because just as a problem with a ROM could be caused by an error in the code or build, the same problem could be caused by end-user error and any ratings based on that could cause problems with getting an accurate rating.
However what I very much agree with is your idea to break down the listings by software versions. At least if that was implemented within the Development section it would make navigating so much more efficient.
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While I do understand your point about it possibly being end-user related, the reason I don't consider this too big of an issue is because there is always a chance for end-user screw ups with any product.
And being totally honest even if it is end user related, it would allow tracking of possible problems people create for themselves.I do my absolute best to read the instructions two or three times and get everything nailed down before I flash a new rom but, I've made mistakes and said "oops" on more than time.
If we can add that much more clarity to end user created problems vs. inherent rom problems, seems like that much more reason to go through with it.
If I can go back and see X is a problem from Y. I would know, "oh I forgot to clear my cache!" go back, repeat the process do it right and wouldn't have to complain to the dev.

CM has pretty poor update waiting times.

So, yeah I'm a bit on the fence with this one. I have an N5 and I love the notion that it's pretty much the first device to receive updates. But, more often as of late, Google pushes updates via its services and even more recently by making its apps available to all, at least to devices running 4.4.x. So, the importance of being able to run with the very latest Android version has been somewhat mitigated.
The thing that has me concerned right now about the One+ 1 are the very long update cycles of CM. Should Android 5.0 roll out within the next few months, it would mean, based on CM update history, an additional 6 months before CM moves on to it the latest Android version nightlies roundup. 6 months is often longer than it takes even the big manufacturers to skin and update the latest Android version, waiting periods which proud Nexus owners have been able to avoid.
Just curious to hear from Nexus people who are thinking about this device and what any inevitable updates might mean to you?
Well I think official updates are irrelevant as developers here will release their ROMs with line to the latest Google releases for the device.....I will just be buying One for Hardware.......
In an interview of Kondik, he said that now that they're a company and this is their product, they have actual paid devs working on the updates, which should make their code more higher quality and updates faster (though now that they have to make it stable means that it will slow updates down, I hope there will be a nightly channel)
mannu_in said:
Well I think official updates are irrelevant as developers here will release their ROMs with line to the latest Google releases for the device.....I will just be buying One for Hardware.......
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Don't bet on that. Look at how poorly the community CM builds (i'm talking official nightlies, those are "community" builds from the point of view of Cyngn) for the Oppo N1 are. It's Cyngn's official position that they don't care at all if the community builds are completely broken and that users should have no expectations whatsoever from them.
Use nightline updates and you'll be happy :laugh: it helps a lot to devs make CM better and better
From the official point of view CM have said in a previous interview that we should expect 4 months on a major android version upgrade in CM11S.
I think that's pretty decent, anyone in need of a faster update schedule should jump on the nightly train, or find another rom
MrAndroid-HD said:
From the official point of view CM have said in a previous interview that we should expect 4 months on a major android version upgrade in CM11S.
I think that's pretty decent, anyone in need of a faster update schedule should jump on the nightly train, or find another rom
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Right, but in terms of waiting times, I was referring even to the nightlies cycle. After a new Android release version, it usually takes months before they start to work on it. The stable releases, even the monthly ones, would take even longer. Correct me I'm wrong, but those hoping to jump on the nightlies cycle after the next version might be in for a rude awakening. But, in terms of stability for the nightlies, I have no doubt, they could be used as daily drivers, that is, if they open up nightlies to the general public.
floepie said:
Right, but in terms of waiting times, I was referring even to the nightlies cycle. After a new Android release version, it usually takes months before they start to work on it. The stable releases, even the monthly ones, would take even longer. Correct me I'm wrong, but those hoping to jump on the nightlies cycle after the next version might be in for a rude awakening. But, in terms of stability for the nightlies, I have no doubt, they could be used as daily drivers, that is, if they open up nightlies to the general public.
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Remmember this is a special verison of CM, there is nothing like it used to that you can rely on. I know how things where in the past, but this is really one of their first projects where they are the main system on the phone from start - I know they where on the Oppo N1 also from the beginnign, but as far as I know, there weren't made a set deal like with the OnePlus..
Here OnePlus have a 2 year contract on a special version of CM.. Only time will tell us how much it differs from their normal releases..
As said before, the Cyanogen transition from a hobby to a company might give a huge benefit here.
It's true that the waiting time between stable releases has historically been quite poor, but I have extremely good experiences with CM nightlies. I'm running nightlies on my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7, and I can't really complain about anything. Hopefully we'll have an easy opt-in to the nightlies (like there is currently) and that the first nightlies get pushed out fast as Android is updated.
Also, we'll always have community builds.
Honestly, as long as they open source whatever code they use for the screen-off wake gestures, I don't care what I run on the device. As previously mentioned by others, I'm buying the hardware, not the software.
LiquidSolstice said:
Honestly, as long as they open source whatever code they use for the screen-off wake gestures, I don't care what I run on the device. As previously mentioned by others, I'm buying the hardware, not the software.
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That's done via touchscreen controller firmware - which isn't itself opensource (it's just a blob encoded into a header file within the kernel), but will work no matter what you're running on the device with a only a few tweaks to the frameworks/kernel. Plenty of projects have experience with these tweaks since the Oppo N1 had the same capability.
floepie said:
So, yeah I'm a bit on the fence with this one. I have an N5 and I love the notion that it's pretty much the first device to receive updates. But, more often as of late, Google pushes updates via its services and even more recently by making its apps available to all, at least to devices running 4.4.x. So, the importance of being able to run with the very latest Android version has been somewhat mitigated.
The thing that has me concerned right now about the One+ 1 are the very long update cycles of CM. Should Android 5.0 roll out within the next few months, it would mean, based on CM update history, an additional 6 months before CM moves on to it the latest Android version nightlies roundup. 6 months is often longer than it takes even the big manufacturers to skin and update the latest Android version, waiting periods which proud Nexus owners have been able to avoid.
Just curious to hear from Nexus people who are thinking about this device and what any inevitable updates might mean to you?
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Keep in mind they were just an independent developers they were getting some random people WHO ACTUALLY WANTED to help maintain some devices even while there wasn't any driver or source code avaliable (Samsung) which is really hard. They didn't had any office and they weren't getting paid for that. Now they have access to all tools from Google and other manufacturers such as Qualcomm and other drivers which gives them much more possibilities like LG, Samsung or Sony already had from the beginning. CyanogenMod 11S will be much more stable and easier for deliever.
maxver0 said:
Keep in mind they were just an independent developers they were getting some random people WHO ACTUALLY WANTED to help maintain some devices even while there wasn't any driver or source code avaliable (Samsung) which is really hard. They didn't had any office and they weren't getting paid for that. Now they have access to all tools from Google and other manufacturers such as Qualcomm and other drivers which gives them much more possibilities like LG, Samsung or Sony already had from the beginning. CyanogenMod 11S will be much more stable and easier for deliever.
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Except that they've already had one official partner device (Oppo N1) where the user experience was actually WORSE for most people than many of the community-supported devices.
Entropy512 said:
Except that they've already had one official partner device (Oppo N1) where the user experience was actually WORSE for most people than many of the community-supported devices.
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I don't know users experiences about Oppo N1 but I do know that CyanogenMod didn't get as many tools from Oppo as they do have now from Oneplus and their hardware partners. Abhisek Devkota from CyanogenMod have been talking about it somewhere on Google plus. I'm not going to sit on cyanogenmod anyway most likely, especially when there will be support from Slimkat and francisco. Reminder: Oneplus One will be fully unlocked and sources will be avaliable for everyone.
If anyone thinks CM is slow I had 4.4 on my tf700 within one month. Nightlies of course.
maxver0 said:
I don't know users experiences about Oppo N1 but I do know that CyanogenMod didn't get as many tools from Oppo as they do have now from Oneplus and their hardware partners. Abhisek Devkota from CyanogenMod have been talking about it somewhere on Google plus. I'm not going to sit on cyanogenmod anyway most likely, especially when there will be support from Slimkat and francisco. Reminder: Oneplus One will be fully unlocked and sources will be avaliable for everyone.
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That's bull****. The only thing they can blame Oppo on is the initial O-Click fiasco - nothing beyond that. (And I'm letting them slide for the O-Click mess, that really wasn't their fault)
Any failures beyond that have nothing to do with Oppo and everything to do with Cyngn. If you look at oppoforums, the Oppo section of the CM G+ community, and CM's own forums, they're full of users saying they're switching to Omni... Which happens to be maintained by people who got the N1 1-2 months later than Cyngn, aren't paid to work on the device, and didn't have anywhere close to the level of access to Oppo engineers and documentation (Cyngn signed an NDA for Qualcomm docs, we didn't).
So if users are reporting all over that they're switching to a project which had LESS of everything that Cyngn said they didn't have enough of - don't you think something is wrong there?
dracinn said:
If anyone thinks CM is slow I had 4.4 on my tf700 within one month. Nightlies of course.
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We're not talking about nightlies here, since there's no guarantee for users that they'll be anything but crap. Cyngn is ADAMANT about this position. If community builds (nightlies) for a Cyngn device are broken, you're SOL.
Entropy512 said:
Any failures beyond that have nothing to do with Oppo and everything to do with Cyngn. If you look at oppoforums, the Oppo section of the CM G+ community, and CM's own forums, they're full of users saying they're switching to Omni... Which happens to be maintained by people who got the N1 1-2 months later than Cyngn, aren't paid to work on the device, and didn't have anywhere close to the level of access to Oppo engineers and documentation (Cyngn signed an NDA for Qualcomm docs, we didn't).
So if users are reporting all over that they're switching to a project which had LESS of everything that Cyngn said they didn't have enough of - don't you think something is wrong there?
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Well that someone prefer more one rom than the other doesn't prove anything. I prefer custom rom Slimkat on my Nexus 4 even if stock is super stable or even a cyanogenmod rom on my phone. I tried OmniRom on my N4 tho but I couldn't find multiwindow at all in rom so I flashed over something else...

Any sign of 9.0.3?? Kepp gettin random reboots all of sudden

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OP6T is already on 9.0.7 and we're left with nothing since more than a month...
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OP6T is already on 9.0.7 and we're left with nothing since more than a month...
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yeah i no its been that long since an update my os has become unstable lool i had to downgrade to 5.1.11 ..allot smoother to tbh
Our phones are old now and won't get as regular updates as the newer ones.
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OP6T is already on 9.0.7 and we're left with nothing since more than a month...
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Batfink33 said:
Our phones are old now and won't get as regular updates as the newer ones.
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op5 and 5t were updated pretty much identically
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op5 and 5t were updated pretty much identically
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thats true... I bet they skip 9.0.3 and use something like 9.0.5 just to make it look like theyve been hard at it lol
New company policy perhaps? Trying to shift more new phone?
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op5 and 5t were updated pretty much identically
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I mean, all manufactures tend to focus more on their new phones than on their older ones. And while I do tend to disagree with OnePlus' policy of launching two flagships a year, I can certainly understand why they're focusing on the 6T. It's not written anywhere that we need to receive an update every month, and I'd argue that OnePlus has been doing pretty well, a month without any stable updates, yes, but two open betas. And I do think that we will get a stable update at some point in the next few weeks.
And while Pie in general has not come anywhere close to Oreo in terms of performance and smoothness, I haven't experienced any issues like random reboots, so I think that you should perhaps try a factory reset.
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kevinireland11 said:
thats true... I bet they skip 9.0.3 and use something like 9.0.5 just to make it look like theyve been hard at it lol
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Well, they have been hard at it, Open Beta 8 was posted today. I just reported two bugs in Open Beta 7 yesterday and the Bug Hunting team took notice very quickly, so they are indeed working on making the next update as stable as possible before launching it.
Have you seen the changelog for OB8? Lol.
TheMadKing said:
I mean, all manufactures tend to focus more on their new phones than on their older ones. And while I do tend to disagree with OnePlus' policy of launching two flagships a year, I can certainly understand why they're focusing on the 6T. It's not written anywhere that we need to receive an update every month, and I'd argue that OnePlus has been doing pretty well, a month without any stable updates, yes, but two open betas. And I do think that we will get a stable update at some point in the next few weeks.
And while Pie in general has not come anywhere close to Oreo in terms of performance and smoothness, I haven't experienced any issues like random reboots, so I think that you should perhaps try a factory reset.
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Well, they have been hard at it, Open Beta 8 was posted today. I just reported two bugs in Open Beta 7 yesterday and the Bug Hunting team took notice very quickly, so they are indeed working on making the next update as stable as possible before launching it.
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Batfink33 said:
Have you seen the changelog for OB8? Lol.
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Nothing major, yes, which is why I am hoping that a stable update will come soon.
9.0.3 around 15 dec.
I've been having these random reboots for the past few days myself. A reflash of ob7 fixed it for me as of now. Hopefully it doesn't start again

Did OP abandon this phone?

This is my 2nd OP phone, first was the OPO. Couldn't believe how much life I squeezed out of that phone, and by most accounts OP has been good about keeping their old phones updated and usable.
Instead we've had broken Android 10 on the OP6 for months. Did something change at OP? Between this, unstable TWRP on the 7t, and unlocked bootloader issues with the McLaren, it seems like they DGAF anymore.
fonebone2 said:
This is my 2nd OP phone, first was the OPO. Couldn't believe how much life I squeezed out of that phone, and by most accounts OP has been good about keeping their old phones updated and usable.
Instead we've had broken Android 10 on the OP6 for months. Did something change at OP? Between this, unstable TWRP on the 7t, and unlocked bootloader issues with the McLaren, it seems like they DGAF anymore.
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I'm running stock Android 10 on the op6 ... What is broken again? I haven't been even rooted on this phone (yet) so I'm not aware of dev related issues... But stock has been pretty good for me.
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Im on OP6 beta channel.. OP has provided 4 updates till now and all of them have been pretty good and stable. So its hard to believe that the stable channel is broken and not addressed for a long period.
Its always a good practice to factory reset after a major update. My brother's Galaxy M30 was lagging after the recent Android 10 update but factory reset made it fine again. So maybe it might work for you as well
vgpranav said:
Im on OP6 beta channel.. OP has provided 4 updates till now and all of them have been pretty good and stable. So its hard to believe that the stable channel is broken and not addressed for a long period.
Its always a good practice to factory reset after a major update. My brother's Galaxy M30 was lagging after the recent Android 10 update but factory reset made it fine again. So maybe it might work for you as well
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I'm rooted but did a full wipe incl. data when I upgraded. Had the same lag, battery drain, brightness and keyboard issues people have been complaining about with the latest stable release. Toughed it out for 2 weeks before reverting back to 9.0.9. It sucks because I don't want to give my headphone jack or my rear fingerprint sensor, and definitely won't be sticking with OnePlus if they cannot be trusted to keep a 2 year old phone properly updated. I have not tried any of the beta versions.
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I have not tried any of the beta versions.
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well, I guess it's time you give it a go
I can feel your disappointment bro, I owned a OP2 for 3 years., and we all know how OP DGAF about it.
Yes.
fonebone2 said:
This is my 2nd OP phone, first was the OPO. Couldn't believe how much life I squeezed out of that phone, and by most accounts OP has been good about keeping their old phones updated and usable.
Instead we've had broken Android 10 on the OP6 for months. Did something change at OP? Between this, unstable TWRP on the 7t, and unlocked bootloader issues with the McLaren, it seems like they DGAF anymore.
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fonebone2 said:
I'm rooted but did a full wipe incl. data when I upgraded. Had the same lag, battery drain, brightness and keyboard issues people have been complaining about with the latest stable release. Toughed it out for 2 weeks before reverting back to 9.0.9. It sucks because I don't want to give my headphone jack or my rear fingerprint sensor, and definitely won't be sticking with OnePlus if they cannot be trusted to keep a 2 year old phone properly updated. I have not tried any of the beta versions.
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You cant blame OP if you have rooted the phone. Once you mess with the original rom then its on you. I have clean beta official ROM and it works like charm.
QUOTE=vgpranav;81564129]You cant blame OP if you have rooted the phone. Once you mess with the original rom then its on you. I have clean beta official ROM and it works like charm.[/QUOTE]
This is a stock ROM. I never mess with custom ROMs on OnePlus devices. And the mere fact that I'm using TWRP and Magisk should not break the UI. It never has on any other phone I've had going back to the HTC Evo 4G. On every other phone, stock performs the same whether or not it's rooted. If that's no longer the case with OP then that's another reason to reconsider paying $6-700 for their phones.
Not sure.. But Oneplus literally screwed this device with their Android 10 update.
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QUOTE=vgpranav;81564129]You cant blame OP if you have rooted the phone. Once you mess with the original rom then its on you. I have clean beta official ROM and it works like charm.
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This is a stock ROM. I never mess with custom ROMs on OnePlus devices. And the mere fact that I'm using TWRP and Magisk should not break the UI. It never has on any other phone I've had going back to the HTC Evo 4G. On every other phone, stock performs the same whether or not it's rooted. If that's no longer the case with OP then that's another reason to reconsider paying $6-700 for their phones.[/QUOTE]
You might add that TWRP doesn't have anything to do with the ROM, and Magisk is fully systemless, so without active modules, this shouldn't be able to break anything ...
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I'm rooted but did a full wipe incl. data when I upgraded. Had the same lag, battery drain, brightness and keyboard issues people have been complaining about with the latest stable release. Toughed it out for 2 weeks before reverting back to 9.0.9. It sucks because I don't want to give my headphone jack or my rear fingerprint sensor, and definitely won't be sticking with OnePlus if they cannot be trusted to keep a 2 year old phone properly updated. I have not tried any of the beta versions.
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This. Bump!
I even didnt try update to 10...
Rarly came here due lack of interesting new things....except Gcam....
Happy with 9.0.9 and period. Root + TWRP + xXx rom for ViperSound.
Everything works, don`t touch more.
But i really feel OP already left this device to abandon......such a shame.
Or, due to many models, the team is the same with lot more work, anyway we all suffer lack of confidence in them. Or at least me.
Camera, sound =piece of crap
I think all you cant complain about Op support. Say me which brand dice you Active and fresh support on devices older than 2 years.
Mord0rr said:
I even didnt try update to 10...
Rarly came here due lack of interesting new things....except Gcam....
Happy with 9.0.9 and period. Root + TWRP + xXx rom for ViperSound.
Everything works, don`t touch more.
But i really feel OP already left this device to abandon......such a shame.
Or, due to many models, the team is the same with lot more work, anyway we all suffer lack of confidence in them. Or at least me.
Camera, sound =piece of crap
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I don't understand what is your expectation when you say OP has abandoned this device? They worked towards providing Android 10 update, but it was your choice to not to install it. People reported bugs and stability issues in Android 10 update, and OP has worked and fixed many of them, and they are still working on it (been using Android 10 since beta and at current state, very much satisfied with it). But is not beneficial as you have chosen not to use it. If you like using rooted ROM with mods installed, and if your expectation is that OP provides you the mod functionalities in the ROM (if that's what you expect), that doesn't mean they are not working at all on this device. If you are happy with older ROM and do not wish to upgrade, then I don't understand why complain about OP not providing anything new?
Camera and sound are not up to the mark, for Camera, even with GCam I don't find the image quality satisfactory. And this is a major drawback of this phone, and only solution is to buy a phone from some other manufacturer, like Samsung which is better in these aspects (at least that's what I could think of for my next purchase)
Apologies if I sounded rude anywhere.
I'm running the first version of Android 10 that was released and the only issue I have encountered is the black screen while trying to unlock the phone. That's easily circumvented by just pressing the power button to turn the phone off and then back on and done. I've had this phone since launch and it has by far had more updates than any other OnePlus device that I have owned. I have been a faithful customer since the OnePlus 3 and I have owned every device since
OP here. 10 3.1 fixes nearly every issue I was having with Android 10. I'm rooted and running the latest TWRP and having no issues at all except for the space under the keyboard, which is an easy fix. Furthermore it looks like a lot of the issues I was having were with Android itself, not OOS. In any case I hereby withdraw my criticisms of OnePlus' handling of this. Great work, team.
I will also add that I recently acquired a OP7Pro, and while it is a great phone, Android 10 is just as glitchy and 98% of the time it does not feel any faster than the OP6.

Surya owner 6months. Looking for Clean/Fast/bug free ROM

Hello everyone.
I own the Surya Version of the X3 NFC for over 6months now. I am not satisfied with stock MIUI 12.0.8 and I am searching for a better ROM. Before writing what kind of ROM I am looking for, I ll write down some things about the past.
I was using for 3 years the Xiaomi Mi A1 using Pixel Experience custom rom and found to be the best overall for my needs. I tried also some clean AOSP Android Ones which were faster but had serious bugs. So Pixel Experience on my past Xiaomi mobile device was very balanced overall and was happy with it.
I see there is a thread for PE and PE plus for our X3 and I am reading these days the thread carefully.
What I am looking from a rom:
Less possible bugs,
Compatibility with security apps for banking financial purposes, authorization etc.
Lightweight in resources.
The cleaner the better for me. I am experienced and I can install everything myself including Magisk modules and stuff. I will stick with stock kernel or change to another one only if there is proof to be bug free and not messing with the device performance-compatibility-battery life.
Best camera app is a must but I am sure I will find a better one (google cam) than the stock I have right now. (feel free to make suggestions)
Right now I just made the Mi account and I am waiting the 168hours for the unlocking. So no hurry to find the best answers. I have 1 week to decide.
Do I flash the PE, PE plus or another rom?
Thanks so much for any opinions
Having had my Poco X3 since launch, I have now tried Xiaomi.eu (stock based), ArrowOS and am currently on Resurrection Remix,(v8.6.9, A10 based), and I'd advise you to stick to what you know best (the Pixel variants, some of which are quite well regarded) but also to not get your hopes very high.
From reading the forums for as much as long, my opinion is although the hardware specs are great, no custom ROM is completely without issues -- or maybe I'm just spoiled from past experiences, where I had no troubles worth mentioning setting up and using them as daily drivers.
Cameras on this device, for instance, are by itself a whole field of research.
If simplicity is what you seek, than most folks here will point you towards ArrowOS or LineageOS.
Thanks for the answer my friend. I am also reading the ArrowOS thread since I started searching for alternatives.
What would you think about ArrowOS disadvantages from the time you used it? Stock kernel or something else?
@pnin
From my usage, I had trouble setting up some rather basic options but, as it was a while ago, I don't have too clear a recollection.
Afterwards, ArrowOS switched to A11 firmware first and then an OSS vendor, which resulted in a seemingly never ending stream of complaints about upgrades, lack of features and degraded performance -- myself, I never experienced this because I had already moved on.
The migration to OSS vendor happened 2-4 years earlier than necessary, thats what (issues) you get when you do not wait for xiaomi to fix the issues and you try to fix them yourself.
I am still on the last non-OSS build cause of that untill they fix all the issues
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The migration to OSS vendor happened 2-4 years earlier than necessary, thats what (issues) you get when you do not wait for xiaomi to fix the issues and you try to fix them yourself.
I am still on the last non-OSS build cause of that untill they fix all the issues
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I'm using OSS vendor and have no problems.
Which issues are you talking about?
The ones reported on the ArrowOS thread.
Some users report worse performance and some issues here and there.
Also they seem to discontinue smart charging cause of an issue with it.
Personally i am on the latest non-OSS build cause:
A) i do not wish to format the phone and start from scratch again.
B) above reported issues.
@iakoboss7
Thanks for your reply. Can you please share your thoughts on what is not working on the non-OSS rom? I would like to know every detail if it is possible.
also I was unable to find the non-OSS build. where are these variants? I see only vanilla and gapps.
iakoboss7 said:
The ones reported on the ArrowOS thread.
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There are no issues reported on the last pages of the ArrowOS thread.
iakoboss7 said:
Also they seem to discontinue smart charging cause of an issue with it.
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You may as well flash the 20210608 OSS build and stick with it.
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I do not wish to format the phone and start from scratch again.
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That's something you will have to do anyway sooner or later. There is no way from non-OSS to a current build.
iakoboss7 said:
above reported issues.
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Again, there are no reported issues. Please name the issue you have in mind or stop making false accusations
FYI, just now in the ArrowOS thread, atefbeldi and CherryFarmer8 complained of some serious problems with recent updates (cf. https://forum.xda-developers.com/posts/85337817 and following).
pnin said:
FYI, just now in the ArrowOS thread, atefbeldi and CherryFarmer8 complained of some serious problems with recent updates (cf. https://forum.xda-developers.com/posts/85337817 and following).
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They are complaining about a problem with Magisk. atefbeldi specifically writes that the problem only occurs after installing Magisk. Without Magisk there is no issue

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