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Note 5, no micro SD, so what's the alternative?

Am hoping this is not a DUP post,
With the details recently been released, the note 5 has no micro SD storage.
Am wondering what you fellow note users are considering as the best upgrade?
I love the note series, I love the size an the power of the device.
With no additional storage, this is a deal breaker for me.
My upgrade is due in a couple of months.
Just interested on your thoughts on possible alternative devices you may be considering.
I don't know of the S series of Samsung is enough of a replacement.
The note 3, may be the last of the Samsung series for me.
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Believe me, there is NO alternative of Note series. When a person gets used with Note series nothing can impress or make them happy any more.
So you either get the Note 5 or stick with your Note 3, or maybe get a Note 4, it's still a great phone.
We don't have any contract stuffs here but I like to update every one year or so, and I am really confused too. Was hellbent that Note 5 would be my upgrade, but now after seeing it I am doubtful that I will upgrade to it. I mean no SD card is no big deal for me, nor is the non-removable battery, but same screen size and smaller battery capacity is weird! But maybe after a couple of months or so I will eventually end up with buying it, simple because there is no device in this planet which could come even remotely close to a Note
What the heck is Sony and HTC doing for all this long for God's sake!

I am due for upgrade...but no SD card ....deal breaker....as I bring media on the road....maybe going for huawei p8 Max....a giant 6.8inch pH.
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I'm glad to see samsung moving to Li-Po from Li-Ion.
But removing the Micro SD slot is stupid, what where they thinking.
Also lack of usb3.
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there is note 5 thread by the way note edge is so much better than s6 edge + note 4 more better than note 4

I would not upgrade to the Note 4, I don't see this as a viable upgrade.
I may have to bite the bullet, find a device with the same size screen an similar hardware specs.
Its just going to be a challenge to drop the S pen.
The edge was a close competitor, need to go onto a store to have a play an feel.
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I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 off of Craigs, if I can find one for "reasonable." Then wait and see if Samsung sees the error of its ways next year for the next Note. Also, a Samsung rep pointed out to me that there's a Mophie case for the S6 that the phone connects to when you put it in. The case has a slot for a microSD card and, from what I understand, an extended battery. They may make one for the Note 5. No telling how big and heavy that would be.
I talked to a tech at the Sprint store, as I was wondering how you get out of a boot loop, should one happen. Apparently for the S6, there's some key combination that's supposed to work like a battery pull. I assume they have something like that for the Note 5.
I think I'll wait to see what people are saying before I decide for sure what to do. Both developers, techs and users. They did tell me at the Sprint store they will have the Note 5 for Samsung's announced date: August 21st. They are already receiving accessories for the phone.

The Note 5 isn't being released in Europe, at any rate.
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
Though frankly, I'm expecting a Note 5+ around March/April. Samsung amended their statement pretty quickly to "Not releasing it in europe this year, will release when individual markets provide a favourable moment".
The EU/International variant of the Note has always been the Snapdragon model, due to its strength and its more powerful GPU. Exynos models have always been lower-market models. The current Snapdragon CPU had too many issues, and the 820 wasn't ready in time for a pre-iPhone release. Given that they released an S6 Edge+ alongside the Note 5 makes me suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7.
Personally I'm sticking with my Note 3. If it dies, Note 4 will be its replacement. But I will A, never buy a device without a MicroSD, B, never buy a device with an Exynos, and C, live in Europe.

ShadowLea said:
The Note 5 isn't being released in Europe, at any rate.
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
Though frankly, I'm expecting a Note 5+ around March/April. Samsung amended their statement pretty quickly to "Not releasing it in europe this year, will release when individual markets provide a favourable moment".
The EU/International variant of the Note has always been the Snapdragon model, due to its strength and its more powerful GPU. Exynos models have always been lower-market models. The current Snapdragon CPU had too many issues, and the 820 wasn't ready in time for a pre-iPhone release. Given that they released an S6 Edge+ alongside the Note 5 makes me suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7.
Personally I'm sticking with my Note 3. If it dies, Note 4 will be its replacement. But I will A, never buy a device without a MicroSD, B, never buy a device with an Exynos, and C, live in Europe.
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Largely i´ll have to agree. On the MSD-slot though: If we get a 128 GB option i´d probably surrender. If i understand the issue correctly, the on-board ram is much faster. The current N5 setup: Not a chance. One thing i don´t completely understand: Every time we get a new phone on the market with sd-slot, the on-board ram is always on the small side. The best i´ve seen so far was 32 Gigs. Is it just to keep retail prices down? It almost feels like a "Holy cow". To me this sounds like a situation where we could actually have our cookie and eat it too (Provided of course we were willing to pay for it
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Elo

Polar67 said:
Largely i´ll have to agree. On the MSD-slot though: If we get a 128 GB option i´d probably surrender. If i understand the issue correctly, the on-board ram is much faster. The current N5 setup: Not a chance. One thing i don´t completely understand: Every time we get a new phone on the market with sd-slot, the on-board ram is always on the small side. The best i´ve seen so far was 32 Gigs. Is it just to keep retail prices down? It almost feels like a "Holy cow". To me this sounds like a situation where we could actually have our cookie and eat it too (Provided of course we were willing to pay for it
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Elo
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You're spot on about keeping the retail prices down. It's mainly because most people aren't paying 100 quid for 32GB extra when you can get a 128GB MicroSD for 66 quid. Consumers aren't that stupid. (Well, most of them aren't.)
I mean, take the Note 4. €599 for the 32GB model, + €66 for a 128GB MicroSD = €665. The 64GB model costs €699. If you buy the first, that leaves you €34 to spend on a really nice case, screenprotector or extra battery. Or two 64GB MicroSD's. (MediaMarkt sold a pack of 2x64GB+adapters for €32 last week.)
You'd have to be pretty bonkers to consider the 64GB edition that way. (I did consider it, and yes, I'm officially mad as a hatter. But unfortunately they never actually produced the 64GB edition of the Note 3.) A 128GB edition would cost over 1000 euros, which would scare people off.
Not to mention, if you keep your apps internal, and your media external (which is safest in the event of a hardware defect, freeze, crash or drop, too), 32GB is more than sufficient. I have 523 apps, of which over 100 games, and still 5GB free internal space.
And then there's MTP. Transferring an average 1080p film of 25GB takes 5 minutes via a MicroSD adapter. It takes 3 hours over MTP, and craps out halfway because the protocol crashes.
The real issue is that a lot of people are idiots. Yes, the onboard storage is faster in its new format. That's entirely true. Aparently, a MicroSD slows things down when apps are put on them.
Which is the problem: people have forgotten that MicroSD's are for MEDIA. It is entirely irrelevant how fast the internal memory is compared to the MicroSD. That film isn't going to play any faster than 25fps. (Rant aimed at the people who use that as an argument. Not at you xD)
And Samsung has forgotten that the average 1080p film is 25GB. How, exactly, do they suggest I put that on a 32GB device that is already housing 8GB worth of bloatware?
I have two 128GB MicroSD's filled to the brim with films, series, comics, magazines and books that I swap around as I need them. Even a 256GB device would not be sufficient for my needs. Overkill? Maybe. I have to travel on public transport for 6 hours a day, 5.5 of which are in a mobile deadzone. (So no cloud, if that was even useful with maximum data subscriptions of 12GB to begin with. That's half a film.)

ShadowLea said:
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
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LOL! An LG compared with any Samsung is nothing but a joke, utter joke. Sorry if some LG fanboy gets butthurt here, but speaking from a purely personal experience with G3, and the Nexus 5 too.
Biggest shame a Note device could have by being compared with some hotchpotch LG!

devilsdouble said:
LOL! An LG compared with any Samsung is nothing but a joke, utter joke. Sorry if some LG fanboy gets butthurt here, but speaking from a purely personal experience with G3, and the Nexus 5 too.
Biggest shame a Note device could have by being compared with some hotchpotch LG!
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Oh I quite agree. The G4 barely lasts 2 hours with the screen on, 6 with the screen off. Sure, it has a fancy camera, but if I want to take fancy pictures, I'll bring my EOS 70D.
I was just suggesting options. In terms of pure technical specs, the G4 Pro looks to be everything we'd hoped the Note 5 would be. The fact that LG usually screws up their phones (Though nowhere near as bad as HTC seems to be doing these days) has little to do with the core specs.
What's your opinion of Motorola's Nexus 6? Now that Android natively supports MicroSD, and the N6 had an AMOLED screen, the next Nexus may very well be a serious contender.

@ShadowLea
Have you tried the ZE551ML ZenFone 2?
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/
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@ShadowLea
Have you tried the ZE551ML ZenFone 2?
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/
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Haven't had the chance to play with it yet, sadly. They're pretty much impossible to come by in the Netherlands.
Also, I'm a little hesitant when it comes to mobile devices from Asus after the I/O issues that plagued every Transformer(Including my TF700T) for years. (in terms of laptops there's none better, don't get me wrong.)

Note 5 = best screen + best camera in a premium device + spen and good battery life and wireless charging endless list of sensors etc etc
Seriously people still b**ching about it ???
As for the LG G4, its n aweaome phone
the battery is better than my note 3 and it got amazing camera screen and speed. Why trolling ??? 4 hours standby = faulty battery, I can easily get 4 hours screen on with continuous gaming, Web surfing video playback and chatting ..... it's my travelling phone mostly cuz of the battery and camera.

ShadowLea said:
Oh I quite agree. The G4 barely lasts 2 hours with the screen on, 6 with the screen off. Sure, it has a fancy camera, but if I want to take fancy pictures, I'll bring my EOS 70D.
I was just suggesting options. In terms of pure technical specs, the G4 Pro looks to be everything we'd hoped the Note 5 would be. The fact that LG usually screws up their phones (Though nowhere near as bad as HTC seems to be doing these days) has little to do with the core specs.
What's your opinion of Motorola's Nexus 6? Now that Android natively supports MicroSD, and the N6 had an AMOLED screen, the next Nexus may very well be a serious contender.
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I like Motorola actually, but the Moto X 2013 I used had an awful display, I mean I don't know how poor a display could be! So that gives me some scary thing when its about Motorola, but still Nexus 6 is a good phone.
AMOLED panel doesn't matter really. I need to know which generation AMOLED panel it is, the older AMOLED panels are nowhere near as good as current generations' S-AMOLED panels. Also how is the reception thing going on with Motorola? I remember not getting reception in places with my X 2013 where I receive more than decent reception with other phones, that's very serious for me.
Damn if the Note 5 came out with a display around 5.9" I would be all over it. I don't care about the external SD thing at all, and I hope regardless of its smaller capacity battery it will still be better than Note 3 in endurance.

vodovodo said:
As for the LG G4, its n aweaome phone
the battery is better than my note 3 and it got amazing camera screen and speed. Why trolling ??? 4 hours standby = faulty battery, I can easily get 4 hours screen on with continuous gaming, Web surfing video playback and chatting ..... it's my travelling phone mostly cuz of the battery and camera.
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Yeah awesome phone when compared with the likes of OnePlus One or some Xiaomi nonsense, its not even in the same league with any Samsung flagship for God's sake! Brilliant display? Yeah sure, when 8000+ Kelvins is counted as brilliant, it sure the heck is!

The Note 5 was a complete let-down. The three things it removed are the things I used/appreciated most:
- IR blaster
- Removable battery
- Expandable memory
So, after four generations of Note owning (I bought the Note 1 a week after it launched), I will be leaving Sammy.
If you slapped down a Note 4 and a Note 5 on the table right in front of me right now, I'd pay more money for the Note 4.
Here's hoping they revert to their former prestige. Until then, LG Pro 4? I think I have to.

If the Note 5 has OTG support it's oke but clouddrives like Mega can replace SD for most of the time.
The almost no-go to the Note 5 for me is the glass backside. It really anoys me that samsung didn't continue the fake leather backside. I really love it compair to a glass. Now I really need a case.
Unfortunally I have to import the Note 5 because it will not be available in Europe(at least not in the first period).
Please sign the appeal to bring the Note 5 to Europe:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/appeal-to-bring-samsung-galaxy-note-5-to-europe-note5foreurope/

Tombias said:
If the Note 5 has OTG support it's oke but clouddrives like Mega can replace SD for most of the time.
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Oh yes, that works so well...
This is my average Internet speed the 6 hours on public transport when I need the films on my MicroSD the most:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Do please tell me how I am supposed to stream 1080p films from the cloud over that.

[Q] Anyone in the U.S.A. actually gotten one of these yet?

Has anyone in the U.S.A. actually gotten one of these yet? If so, which carrier are you with and how is the voice reception & data performance?

It is awesome....but I am gonna get the Lenovo
I am not in the US. I am in Canada. The phone works well. However the 4G network it is designed to receive is not the one of those primarily used in Canada, so connectivity in certain areas is not idea.
The Lenovo Phab 2 Pro is built for the US market. I would get that instead.
Other than that, the phone is awesome. Great build quality, awesome battery.
Cheers

I Just got it a few days ago. I will have to give you a better idea later and I want to post some questions to see if I can get some minor things ironed out but so far so good. Screen is amazing. Sound is real loud. Haven't done any gaming yet. Ive literaly been traveling non stop for the last few days so I will post more soon. Im on AT&T. I get consistent H and H+.

skyhawk182 said:
I am not in the US. I am in Canada. The phone works well. However the 4G network it is designed to receive is not the one of those primarily used in Canada, so connectivity in certain areas is not idea.
Cheers
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What carrier are you on? The ultra supports a wide variety of frequencies:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 / 800
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)

I have had this model (ZU680KL) for one week. My wife wanted my HTC 10 and I wanted a bigger screen with 4gb of ram, dual speakers, SD card slot. I originally was looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, dual speakers, memory expansion, and Wi-Fi and 4g/LTE. They are getting hard to find. I saw the 6.8 inch Asus zenfone 3 ultra and decided to give it a try.
I must say not quite as fast as the HTC 10, but very happy with performance, video and music quality is very good. I have had no freeze ups yet, which I have had with the HTC 10. But will see after longer ownership. Although this has surprised me with a processor not as good as many other high end phones/phablets. So far very happy with over-all performance. Will give more feedback after longer ownership.
Only disappointed for this Asus is that I always root my phones, but have not found any custom roms out yet.
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One side note for the Asus ZU680KL is that I'm not having any problems at all using this unlocked phone on Cricket (gsm- AT&T) and getting H,H+, and 4g./Lte.

Slbtrb79 said:
Only disappointed for this Asus is that I always root my phones, but have not found any custom roms out yet.
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One side note for the Asus ZU680KL is that I'm not having any problems at all using this unlocked phone on Cricket (gsm- AT&T) and getting H,H+, and 4g./Lte.
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Did you root it? There's a video on YouTube showing ultra rooted. The bootloader is unlocked is it not?

I also just got one of these yesterday. I randomly found one on Amazon Warehouse deals fulfilled by Amazon. Im using it on At&T with no LTE but getting decent 3G speeds of 5 down. Using Nova launcher to get around the Asus UI. Very happy with it so far. I also would love to see a custom rom as it does have a Snapdragon processor but Im not holding my breath. Coming from an Xperia Ultra Z and a Nexus 6 I was used to tons of dev support. Im happy with it though. If a Mi Max happens to come up on Amazon with US seller Id prolly pick one of those up for comparison. Good phone thoough.

Too expensive
shdwphnx said:
Has anyone in the U.S.A. actually gotten one of these yet? If so, which carrier are you with and how is the voice reception & data performance?
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They are price-gouging pretty bad if you want to buy it in the US. I do not think it is worth the money. I saw a review of real world usage. It was not as great as people thought. It might be better to get the Huawei P8 Max. It is cheaper the the Asus zenfone 3 Ultra and has a way better processor, great battery, large screen, and they say a 128GB microSD card works in it.

d4ndr0id said:
Did you root it? There's a video on YouTube showing ultra rooted. The bootloader is unlocked is it not?
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Thanks, for your remark, but I have found no ultra zenfone 3 ultra zu680kl rooted with bootloader unlocked on YouTube. Many of those videos are titled wrong. The only video I found was an Asus 5 rooted with bootloader unlocked with kitkat using rootkit.
But even if you could root this device and there was a how to video, there are no custom roms developed yet. I am more interested in adding and trying different roms. Until there are a few custom roms like AOSP, MIUI, CM, with 6.0 or higher, I will probably not root anyway. Besides as far as I know, Twrp recovery img for this device has not been developed yet.
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cryingthug said:
They are price-gouging pretty bad if you want to buy it in the US. I do not think it is worth the money. I saw a review of real world usage. It was not as great as people thought. It might be better to get the Huawei P8 Max. It is cheaper the the Asus zenfone 3 Ultra and has a way better processor, great battery, large screen, and they say a 128GB microSD card works in it.
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I disagree with your assessment of the Asus zenfone 3 ultra (zu680kl) compared to the Huawei P8 max. The P8 max is a nice device for the money. It does have a better processor, but saying it's way better is objective. The benchmark tests with these two processors from these phones are not so far apart. But there is only a less than 50.00 difference on price between these phones on EBay, with both having 64gb internal memory ( 568.00 P8 max and 589.00 Asus Zenphone 3 ultra). This Asus model is a year newer, with 4gb of ram and not 3 like the P8 max. Bigger battery with fast charge and the ability to charge other devices, which the P8 max doesn't have. Up to 256 GB of storage, which is also more than the P8 max. Better camera specs, better speakers (dual), type C USB (P8 max doesn't have), and also fingerprint scanner. So I guess after reading and doing side by side comparisons, It all depends what you would want on your phone.

Go For The P8 Max
Slbtrb79 said:
I disagree with your assessment of the Asus zenfone 3 ultra (zu680kl) compared to the Huawei P8 max. The P8 max is a nice device for the money. It does have a better processor, but saying it's way better is objective. The benchmark tests with these two processors from these phones are not so far apart. But there is only a less than 50.00 difference on price between these phones on EBay, with both having 64gb internal memory ( 568.00 P8 max and 589.00 Asus Zenphone 3 ultra). This Asus model is a year newer, with 4gb of ram and not 3 like the P8 max. Bigger battery with fast charge and the ability to charge other devices, which the P8 max doesn't have. Up to 256 GB of storage, which is also more than the P8 max. Better camera specs, better speakers (dual), type C USB (P8 max doesn't have), and also fingerprint scanner. So I guess after reading and doing side by side comparisons, It all depends what you would want on your phone.
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Here are reasons to get the Huawei P8 Max over the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra.
1. Pay much less money. You can get the P8 Max for about $300 if you know where to shop. Way cheaper.
2. Blazing fast processor at 2.3GHz.
3. No need to upgrade all the to USB cables and USB-OTG devices to the USB-C type connection, which will cost you more money. With the price of the phone one should also calculate the price of the other items that you will need to go with it.
4. Can use a 128GB microSD card. That is plenty of space for a phone.
5. Battery will last longer that that of the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra according to battery tests on youtube.
6. The P8 Max (DAV-703L) can be upgraded to Android 6, same as the Zenfone 3 Ultra.
7. (Opinion) The P8 Max looks better and has a sleek design. I am not liking the hardware button on the Asus Zenfone 3 Max.
8. You can root the P8 Max.

The P8 max build quality is terrible. Have you seen how easily the bezel comes off with just a bit of bending pressure? scary. For that reason, I would choose the ultra over the P8 max.

cryingthug said:
Here are reasons to get the Huawei P8 Max over the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra.
1. Pay much less money. You can get the P8 Max for about $300 if you know where to shop. Way cheaper.
2. Blazing fast processor at 2.3GHz.
3. No need to upgrade all the to USB cables and USB-OTG devices to the USB-C type connection, which will cost you more money. With the price of the phone one should also calculate the price of the other items that you will need to go with it.
4. Can use a 128GB microSD card. That is plenty of space for a phone.
5. Battery will last longer that that of the Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra according to battery tests on youtube.
6. The P8 Max (DAV-703L) can be upgraded to Android 6, same as the Zenfone 3 Ultra.
7. (Opinion) The P8 Max looks better and has a sleek design. I am not liking the hardware button on the Asus Zenfone 3 Max.
8. You can root the P8 Max.
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You purchase what you like and I will do the same, but on pricing and specs you need to compare apples to apples. I will be specific.
1.) In the real world on pricing of these phones, please show me where you can buy a Huawei P8 Max for 293.00 new, with dual Sim and with 64 GB of internal storage capacity. I paid 593.00 for my Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra with dual Sim and 64gb internal storage capacity. EBay and others are selling the Huawei P8 Max with dual Sim and 64GB internal storage capacity for between 400.00(used) and 500.00 new.
2.) Huawei P8 Max has only 3gb of ram, my Ultra has 4gb of ram.
3.) Better metal quality in the new Ultra (aluminum). Looks nicer ( my opinion).
4.) USB-C Type connection is better. More and more devices heading that way. Anyway, the Zenfone Ultra I received, came shipped with two USB-C type cables. When calculating the price of a phone, first you need to see what comes with it.
5.) No fingerprint sensor on the Huawei P8 Max according to phonearena.com
6.) Asus Ultra has double the internal storage capacity. More external also.
7.) Asus Ultra has better camera specs both ways
8.) Asus Ultra has better bluetooth specs also.
9.) One of the things I was looking for in a phablet was stereo speakers. Asus Ultra yes, P8 Max no.
My conclusion :
Yes the P8 has a faster processor, but I prefer the Qualcomm snapdragon. You can also root the P8, but it's been out for over a year. The Asus Zenfone Ultra only a few months, which the source code has already been provided.
But comparing these two phones together with the true pricing and specs. It's no where near a 300.00 dollar difference posted previously. More like a 100.00 difference. For that difference, my money is on the Asus Zenfone Ultra. But that's my personal choice, but that's what makes the world go around.
All specs came from phonearena.com.
All pricing came from Ebay and Amazon.

I'm sure you can root the ultra as well.
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Slbtrb79 said:
You purchase what you like and I will do the same, but on pricing and specs you need to compare apples to apples. I will be specific.
1.) In the real world on pricing of these phones, please show me where you can buy a Huawei P8 Max for 293.00 new, with dual Sim and with 64 GB of internal storage capacity. I paid 593.00 for my Asus Zenfone 3 Ultra with dual Sim and 64gb internal storage capacity. EBay and others are selling the Huawei P8 Max with dual Sim and 64GB internal storage capacity for between 400.00(used) and 500.00 new.
2.) Huawei P8 Max has only 3gb of ram, my Ultra has 4gb of ram.
3.) Better metal quality in the new Ultra (aluminum). Looks nicer ( my opinion).
4.) USB-C Type connection is better. More and more devices heading that way. Anyway, the Zenfone Ultra I received, came shipped with two USB-C type cables. When calculating the price of a phone, first you need to see what comes with it.
5.) No fingerprint sensor on the Huawei P8 Max according to phonearena.com
6.) Asus Ultra has double the internal storage capacity. More external also.
7.) Asus Ultra has better camera specs both ways
8.) Asus Ultra has better bluetooth specs also.
9.) One of the things I was looking for in a phablet was stereo speakers. Asus Ultra yes, P8 Max no.
My conclusion :
Yes the P8 has a faster processor, but I prefer the Qualcomm snapdragon. You can also root the P8, but it's been out for over a year. The Asus Zenfone Ultra only a few months, which the source code has already been provided.
But comparing these two phones together with the true pricing and specs. It's no where near a 300.00 dollar difference posted previously. More like a 100.00 difference. For that difference, my money is on the Asus Zenfone Ultra. But that's my personal choice, but that's what makes the world go around.
All specs came from phonearena.com.
All pricing came from Ebay and Amazon.
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As a side note, I believe this is the second time that cryingthug and myself have talked about specs and pricing of these two phones. After this last post, I am just going to leave it at, that we disagree. No reason to essentially keep posting the same argument as to which is the better phone. You like what you like and I will do the same, when it comes to these two phones.

I'm going to root my coworkers ultra on Friday, will post results.
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Sorry for the late reply everyone. The issue is Asus hasnt' released the bootloader unlock program for the ultra yet. They have for the deluxe though. my coworker has opened a ticket requesting this program. Once the bootloader is unlocked, i'll get to work on rooting, shouldn't be hard after that.

Slbtrb79 said:
2.) Huawei P8 Max has only 3gb of ram, my Ultra has 4gb of ram.
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Slbtrb79:
Both phones are great in my opinion. There are not many to select from in the 6.8 inch range. We should be happy that we at least have those two choices.
One thing about the RAM amounts in both phones is, I think 99% of most smartphone owners do not even know how much RAM their phones are using. Therefore, they cannot know how much RAM they need. Ask anyone how much RAM their phone is using I bet they will not be able to answer the question. I had a phone that had 1GB of RAM. It ran great. I'll use anything with more that 1GB. On the other hand I have seen phones come painfully to a crawl due to not having fast enough processors. I threw away my first smartphone away because of that.

cryingthug said:
Slbtrb79:
Both phones are great in my opinion. There are not many to select from in the 6.8 inch range. We should be happy that we at least have those two choices.
One thing about the RAM amounts in both phones is, I think 99% of most smartphone owners do not even know how much RAM their phones are using. Therefore, they cannot know how much RAM they need. Ask anyone how much RAM their phone is using I bet they will not be able to answer the question. I had a phone that had 1GB of RAM. It ran great. I'll use anything with more that 1GB. On the other hand I have seen phones come painfully to a crawl due to not having fast enough processors. I threw away my first smartphone away because of that.
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Don't get me wrong, I always appreciate others views, including yours. I have liked many of your posts, just happened to disagree with your posts on your assessments on comparing these two phones. It's nice two have two phones to pick from, with maybe the exception of the Xiaomi Mi Max ( 6.4 inch screen, big battery, 4 GB of ram). But I think any gamer would know how how much ram their phone would have and the processor for that matter. Personally since I own the HTC 10 and the Asus zenphone 3 ultra, I've had no problems playing Asphalt 8. I have actually had no freeze ups or other issues with the Asus, playing that game. Asus, just like many other manufacturers need to keep improving their phones, even though I'm a fan of the Asus zenfone 3 ultra due impart to the screen size, dual stereo speakers, 4gb of ram, etc., I don't understand why Asus did not use the same processor like they did in their Deluxe model with the 6gb of ram.
But, please, keep on expressing your views and opinions. I may have gotten a little carried away on that previous post. I have always been an XDA fan. My best to you and all, Slbtrb79....

Looks like we need to boycott Asus so they can develop the bootloader tool for the ultra. As of now, no root.
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Maybe if we all request it?

Galaxy S10E or the Mi 9

Straight to the point, I'm looking to purchase one of the phones but I'm not sure which to get. I'm mostly looking into the selfie camera and XDA support so yeah not sure which one

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Straight to the point, I'm looking to purchase one of the phones but I'm not sure which to get. I'm mostly looking into the selfie camera and XDA support so yeah not sure which one
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I will go for Xiaomi mi 9. Wide angle camera, Dual SIM, Amoled, My mother toung, Call recorder and great price. Only missing 3.5 aux but I will survive. BB Oneplus....

My list:
Mi9: Most likely better AOSP support, cheaper
S10E: better screen, 3,5 jack, smaller size

I'm also thinking about buying either the Mi9 or S10E. At the moment, I'm slightly leaning towards the Mi9 because of the price and also because I don't really like Samsung's software.
That being said, Samsung has improved radically over the past years and Xiaomi is not exactly delivering mint Android either.
As for the size: Would love to buy the Mi9 SE but it looks like it's not going to be available in Europe and that it will also lack the necessary 4G bands to make it work properly.

ljo13 said:
I'm also thinking about buying either the Mi9 or S10E. At the moment, I'm slightly leaning towards the Mi9 because of the price and also because I don't really like Samsung's software.
That being said, Samsung has improved radically over the past years and Xiaomi is not exactly delivering mint Android either.
As for the size: Would love to buy the Mi9 SE but it looks like it's not going to be available in Europe and that it will also lack the necessary 4G bands to make it work properly.
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Would definitely go for the Mi9. Depending on region Samsung has decided to use their Exynos variant in comparison to Snapdragon 855.
We all know the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 855 but with regards to power efficiency, we are still unsure. Last years Galaxy S9 Exynos variant suffered from severe battery issues which ultimately resulted in me returning my S9 within the cooling off period.
The Mi 9 is very attractive with its Snapdragon 855 and scores well on gsmarena battery test even beating the p20 pro (4000mah) which I currently own and would not sell apart from sh** selfie camera being worst ever. Ultimately Samsungs decision to only ship Exynos variant phones within the UK is a shocking one.
We should be given the choice

Mi9 I've just received mine.
I was going to get the S10+ but when I seen this and the price tag my mind was made.
Screen is great,cameras front and back are brilliant, it's so fast and smooth it's unreal. Fingerprint scanner is very good it's so quick and accurate nothing like OnePlus 6t that was dreadful for me.
Only think this device doesn't have for me is dual speakers, IP rating, SD slot.

Buy Mi9 Only if you dont mind the lack of OIS....camera at night is a joke.i sell mine for that after just 24 hours!!!

Z953RR said:
Buy Mi9 Only if you dont mind the lack of OIS....camera at night is a joke.i sell mine for that after just 24 hours!!!
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Agreed, camera so far one of the aspects I'm slightly less pleased with, especially coming from the Pixel 2 xl. However, a Mi 8 gcam port works already and so does night sight, which even though its not meant for this device works pretty well. So I'm definitely gonna be patient and follow its development as great things await us I believe! Would be great if we can use the telephoto and wide angle cameras with the gcam port!

I have installed gcam in mi9 with night mode... quality better BUT NOT with low light.you need a tripod ..theres not optical image stabilization (hardware)

mulkman said:
Would definitely go for the Mi9. Depending on region Samsung has decided to use their Exynos variant in comparison to Snapdragon 855.
We all know the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 855 but with regards to power efficiency, we are still unsure. Last years Galaxy S9 Exynos variant suffered from severe battery issues which ultimately resulted in me returning my S9 within the cooling off period.
The Mi 9 is very attractive with its Snapdragon 855 and scores well on gsmarena battery test even beating the p20 pro (4000mah) which I currently own and would not sell apart from sh** selfie camera being worst ever. Ultimately Samsungs decision to only ship Exynos variant phones within the UK is a shocking one.
We should be given the choice
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I'm not so sure about "Exynos" is faster than 855, of course maybe Samsung phones with Exynos feel faster than Snapdragon?

ted presley said:
I'm not so sure about "Exynos" is faster than 855, of course maybe Samsung phones with Exynos feel faster than Snapdragon?
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This years exynos has also failed in terms of battery life.
The snapdragon 855 is way more efficient than the exynos

mulkman said:
This years exynos has also failed in terms of battery life.
The snapdragon 855 is way more efficient than the exynos
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Exynos is only better in singlecore (multicore is faster in 855) but exynos does that at the expense of a lot of heat and battery. Also the GPU in 855 is like 2 generations better than exynos.
yes, my s9+ exynos still does beat the mi9 in single core. but the s9+ gets beaten in gpu tests even by my older mix 2 NON S (snapdragon 835!!.. not 845!!) 855 gpu is a beast. Exynos s10 gpu is just slighty better than s9 exynos because they did improve the power per core.. but removed like 40% of the cores... (g72mp18 vs g76mp12)
and that single core perf. is irrelevant.. My mix2 with a good rom is AT LEAST as fast as the s9+ in app opening, web surfing etc.. believe I tested.

Question I'm looking for the S22 Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant in Germany.

Hi guys, I live in Germany and unfortunately, you can only purchase the Exynos variant here.
I will be grateful if somebody helps me find the S22 SD variant.
Best regards.

Wondamobile but make sure 5G works

I can sell you my 1 month old s22 ultra 1tb, canadian sd gen 1 variant

masihian said:
Hi guys, I live in Germany and unfortunately, you can only purchase the Exynos variant here.
I will be grateful if somebody helps me find the S22 SD variant.
Best regards.
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Go for Wonda. I purchased mine there. Everything worked fine. Which Provider do you have? 5g works fine with Telekom.

About one year ago I bought a HK Version of a N20u at T-Dimension. That device was shipped from Europe, therefore no tax issues. The communication was good.
Just to tell you an alternative.
But one question: SD and Exynos are not that different this time, why taking the risk of VoLTE issues and more complicated warranty processing?

ZXR said:
About one year ago I bought a HK Version of a N20u at T-Dimension. That device was shipped from Europe, therefore no tax issues. The communication was good.
Just to tell you an alternative.
But one question: SD and Exynos are not that different this time, why taking the risk of VoLTE issues and more complicated warranty processing?
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Hey buddy
THX for your reply
Based on my findings on the internet (YouTubers & Articles), the SD variant performs better on camera quality and battery life (especially in standby discharge).

I got my S9080 12GB/512GB from techinthebasket and it was cheaper than Wonda

masihian said:
Based on my findings on the internet (YouTubers & Articles), the SD variant performs better on camera quality and battery life (especially in standby discharge).
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I see.
Regarding standby discharge it is pretty hard to compare, but I also heard of a modem topic.
Regarding camera quality, some rare comparisons show slightly lower artefacts at SD devices, a bit less sharpening a.s.o.. But what kind of camera quality is really important for you? E.g. if you do not like less sharp edges due to misaligned lenses or other tolerance effects, you might think of buying several S22u devices and comparing the lens alignment and keeping only the best one. This would not really show solidarity to the shops, but it is possible within our local regulations (Fernabsatzgesetz).

masihian said:
Hi guys, I live in Germany and unfortunately, you can only purchase the Exynos variant here.
I will be grateful if somebody helps me find the S22 SD variant.
Best regards.
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I live in France and I bought the S9080 Snapdragon 12/256 version on the rakuten site. Delivered in 6 days, it works 10 times better than the exynos version that I tried for several days

(Question) I'm thinking about buying a Snapdragon Note 20 Ultra...

Hi - I'm in the UK and looking to get a good condition Note 20 Ultra... I'm not really concerned about 5g, but I'd like the best battery life possible - so should I go with a Snapdragon model (either the HK or Korean models: SM-N9860 or SM-N986N)? Would everything else work OK/as normal? Thanks.

I have the N9860 HK version on Vodafone UK and it's absolutely brilliant. There's a hidden menu setting you may need to enable 5g (but I keep mine disabled as it eats battery)
The SD is so much better than Exynos in so many ways, especially battery life. Best handset I've ever had.

kradcliffe said:
I have the N9860 HK version on Vodafone UK and it's absolutely brilliant. There's a hidden menu setting you may need to enable 5g (but I keep mine disabled as it eats battery)
The SD is so much better than Exynos in so many ways, especially battery life. Best handset I've ever had.
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How about green screen issues in Note 20 ultra?. I can see some of them are affected by it