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[Q] will there be a 2015 edition?

So im thinking of replacing my note 4 with this or the 10 inch tab, any chance of a 2015 note tablet? Or am i safe getting a 2014 version
Also how does this compare with a note 4?
My note 4 lags alot (thinking its defective) and i only use it at home as its not my primary phone.

It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?

ShadowLea said:
It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, ive tried a reset and eveything else to fix it.
So its best to wait till after CES to buy a note tablet?

GreeleyXda said:
Yes, ive tried a reset and eveything else to fix it.
So its best to wait till after CES to buy a note tablet?
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Press releases will probably hit today, Monday and Tuesday. But they could wait until Barcelona, that's around the time when they normally announce their new phones, so they might push a tablet announcement out until then.

Id be ok waiting till march, but this is going on my verizon tablet line. And as far as im aware theres usually a gap between the tablets release and when verizon releases their LTE model.
Would be it be unwise to get the pro, and use it till the next one comes out on verizon? (Im estimating a late 2015 release date for the verizon LTE model if they do releas a new tablet)

there is a rumored 10.1 2015 edition that has been spotted in name only so far on some advertising. I had the original Note 10.1 then got the Note 10.1 2014 and was very pleased, the super slow recharge was partial reasoning for me to give it to my gf and then got the Verizon Note 12.2 Pro LTE for the Qualcomm chip that I thought had the quick charge function on the chipset. It does charge pretty fast but for how much I spoent I thought it would have had the Note 4 type Fast Charge. I was able to root the Verizon tablet but future versions after the 4.4.2 exploit will close that loophole. I personally dont understand that they make it so difficult by having a locked bootloader on Verizon. I paid $1000 for the tablet, I want to do whatever I want to it! I love the size vs the 10.1, which feels small now as I have adjust to the bigger screens.
The price point is the issue. In Future, I would just get the WiFi only model as that is usually the version for anything custom (ROMS, recovery, kernel) and are usually widely supported more in my opinion. I'd love to see a Super AMOLED, uses less power, 2k version (whatever the Note 4 specs are) for 12.2 Note Pro. I would love for them to have the fast charge feature just like the NOTE 4, the newer air command of Note 4 vs Note 3/10.1/12.2, Camera improvements passed along, 3 or 4 GB of RAM, larger batteries, thinner bezel. The updated stylus that is more responsive. this is an evolutionary tablet, which I am fine with...

aburns7487 said:
there is a rumored 10.1 2015 edition that has been spotted in name only so far on some advertising. I had the original Note 10.1 then got the Note 10.1 2014 and was very pleased, the super slow recharge was partial reasoning for me to give it to my gf and then got the Verizon Note 12.2 Pro LTE for the Qualcomm chip that I thought had the quick charge function on the chipset. It does charge pretty fast but for how much I spoent I thought it would have had the Note 4 type Fast Charge. I was able to root the Verizon tablet but future versions after the 4.4.2 exploit will close that loophole. I personally dont understand that they make it so difficult by having a locked bootloader on Verizon. I paid $1000 for the tablet, I want to do whatever I want to it! I love the size vs the 10.1, which feels small now as I have adjust to the bigger screens.
The price point is the issue. In Future, I would just get the WiFi only model as that is usually the version for anything custom (ROMS, recovery, kernel) and are usually widely supported more in my opinion. I'd love to see a Super AMOLED, uses less power, 2k version (whatever the Note 4 specs are) for 12.2 Note Pro. I would love for them to have the fast charge feature just like the NOTE 4, the newer air command of Note 4 vs Note 3/10.1/12.2, Camera improvements passed along, 3 or 4 GB of RAM, larger batteries, thinner bezel. The updated stylus that is more responsive. this is an evolutionary tablet, which I am fine with...
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A family member has the 10.5 Tab S, which is a bit newer than the notepro and it even that doesnt have QuickCharge or Usb 3.0
Note pro and Tab S are already 2k/3gb ram, and i dnt see the need for a 4k android tablet.
Im in a contact for a tablet line anyways, so might as well get the LTE model and plus im not a fan of the exynos chips.
Still not sure if if i should get the notepro or wait, i use my note 4 for drawing, multitasking browsing/media/notes/other apps.

I totally agree agree with agree with your observations as well. I was merely speculating what I personally would like to see. I prefer the Qualcomm chips as 805 has the quick charge feature built in. The WiFi Exnoys is getting all the custom support at least in US, as the p905v (has locked bootloader, stupid verizon). If the bootloader was unlocked my opinion would greatly change. I want to see a note version of the tab S, since they finally used a super ambled screen, thus uses less power on lighting up the screen as the black diodes use no power and let's do. Maybe I was meaning 4G of RAM, that is just to keep everything running smoothly. I much prefer the 12.2 screen size over the 10.1 as I have become use to the larger screen size, now the 10.1 seems too small. It all depends on how much you are using it. I suppose I just felt the need to have the next new toy. I do think the USB 3, never got utilized so them going back to USB 2.0 as long as it has the new fast charger adapter, same one as Note 4, thus making things interchangeable. If it must be LTE then so be it.
If you are just getting a hold over tablet for your drawing then I think maybe ok to buy. I was jus a little disappointed especially since I paid 1000 vs say 750 for LTE version of. Verizon.....
My personal wish list is what I was referring to. I'm sorry for hijacking the thread. If money isn't an issue then get note 12.2 pro LTE.....note 10.1 2014 p600 isn't bad either and has custom support, but again. I was on WiFi only versions previous to this p905v, so my knowledge is purely based on my on usage.
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I bought a 12.2 lte as soon as it was released here, and I was pretty impressed with the snapdragon performance after several exynos phones and tablets - after lots of tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) extremely satisfied with the performance.
Then came the Note 4 lte. Everything I was expecting - way better than the 12.2 out of the box, and after heavy tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) I'm extremely happy with my Note 4.
So, if you're not happy with a Note 4, you'll hate a 12.2 and should wait for the next generation. When is a 13" Note coming? I want one!

andyfarmery said:
I bought a 12.2 lte as soon as it was released here, and I was pretty impressed with the snapdragon performance after several exynos phones and tablets - after lots of tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) extremely satisfied with the performance.
Then came the Note 4 lte. Everything I was expecting - way better than the 12.2 out of the box, and after heavy tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) I'm extremely happy with my Note 4.
So, if you're not happy with a Note 4, you'll hate a 12.2 and should wait for the next generation. When is a 13" Note coming? I want one!
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Its not that i dont like the device, just that it freezes and lags a lot And i rather not pay samsung to fix it. The note 4 isnt even my main line, so it doesnt leave the house, i use it as a tablet.
What makes the 12.2 bad?

Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..

andyfarmery said:
Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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i have nothing to lose waiting i guess.
But id want the verizon LTE version of any anounced Note Tablet, i got rid of my LTE ipad mini so now i have an empty tablet line that i have to pay for till 2016.

andyfarmery said:
Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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I posted in the note 4 xda section, and theyre pretty much telling me my note 4 is defective.
I have 4 options
1) get the note pro
2) buy the tab S of a family member (mostly for the samoled screen)
3) try to get a Certfied Note 4 off verizon
4) buy another note 4
The note 4 was on my line, but i replaced it with an iphone 6+. Right now its just a tablet (it doesnt even have a sim in it.) Let say i get a working a note 4, im still only going to use it at home as a tablet, which is why im thinking of a note tablet.
So my questions to u are
1) Would u say the LCD screen was a disapoiment? Compare to a samoled (is having a samoled screen Tab S really worth giving up the note features)
2) in what way does ur note pro prefor inferior to your note 4?
For example I dont play any games on my note 4
On my note 4 i use it to draw [sketchbookx + spen], youtube 1080p +, videos of my memory card [720p or less Quality], play about 48gbs of music, and a lot of internet browsing. (I actually do all my browsing on it since i hate my iphones browsers/1gb of ram)
i use the multi window feature alot, running several things at once. I also like how they minimize to a bubble if u need to get it out of ur way but dont want to closw it.

ShadowLea said:
It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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It will probably be announced at ifa

gingi999 said:
It will probably be announced at ifa
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Well, the current one was announced in January, released in march. They normally don't deviate from such dates in a lineup.
I suspect a new version simply isn't viable yet.
IFA remains a possibility, but I doubt it.
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ShadowLea said:
Well, the current one was announced in January, released in march. They normally don't deviate from such dates in a lineup.
I suspect a new version simply isn't viable yet.
IFA remains a possibility, but I doubt it.
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I think so too, im going to just go for it then (can always return it/get the 2015 devicd)
Thing is people have been telling me the tab s is the better tablet now. Why i do like samoled screen for videos, i cant think of any other reason the Tab S would be better. Especially since the spen gets so much use from me (drawing)

GreeleyXda said:
I think so too, im going to just go for it then (can always return it/get the 2015 devicd)
Thing is people have been telling me the tab s is the better tablet now. Why i do like samoled screen for videos, i cant think of any other reason the Tab S would be better. Especially since the spen gets so much use from me (drawing)
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An AMOLED screen has infinite contrast, since black is generated by turning the LEDs off. It also has a higher colour saturation (so more vibrant). For films that's a little prettier. Due to the black=LED Off system, black systems are more power efficient. However, Samsung lost all IQ and decided to implement White menu's on everything, and combined with Google's white Material design in every app it barely makes a difference anymore. Films, even thrillers, are never true black, so in that respect it also makes no difference in battery life.
Sadly, the Tab S doesn't come in 12.2" nor with an Spen.
In terms of internal hardware the Tab S is identical to the Tab Pro and Note Pro.
If there was a Note Pro 2015 and it came with an AMOLED screen, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. But Samsung has already stated that 12.2" AMOLED is far too expensive to produce, and would result in an additional 250 quid ontop of the already hefty pricetag.

ShadowLea said:
An AMOLED screen has infinite contrast, since black is generated by turning the LEDs off. It also has a higher colour saturation (so more vibrant). For films that's a little prettier. Due to the black=LED Off system, black systems are more power efficient. However, Samsung lost all IQ and decided to implement White menu's on everything, and combined with Google's white Material design in every app it barely makes a difference anymore. Films, even thrillers, are never true black, so in that respect it also makes no difference in battery life.
Sadly, the Tab S doesn't come in 12.2" nor with an Spen.
In terms of internal hardware the Tab S is identical to the Tab Pro and Note Pro.
If there was a Note Pro 2015 and it came with an AMOLED screen, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. But Samsung has already stated that 12.2" AMOLED is far too expensive to produce, and would result in an additional 250 quid ontop of the already hefty pricetag.
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Sounds like theyre just being bias then if the internals are identical, and i imagine the note lcd screen isnt too shabby for videos anyways. They were saying you can use a stylus pen on the tab S but its just not the same. Think ill go for the Note Tablet.
Its more likely the next 10.1 note would carry the AMOLED than the Pro or maybe even a new AMOLED Note 8.0.

GreeleyXda said:
Sounds like theyre just being bias then if the internals are identical, and i imagine the note lcd screen isnt too shabby for videos anyways. They were saying you can use a stylus pen on the tab S but its just not the same. Think ill go for the Note Tablet.
Its more likely the next 10.1 note would carry the AMOLED than the Pro or maybe even a new AMOLED Note 8.0.
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You can use a regular stylus with a rubber tip on a Tab S, yes. But an Spen isn't a regular stylus, so it isn't pressure sensitive, has no button, no action menu and no interactions.
If you draw a lot on it, nothing beats an Spen. I tried drawing with a regular stylus but it's just not the same. No pressure sensitivity whatsoever.
I quite enjoy watching films on this thing. On the main homescreen it looks like you can see the screen pattern, but in films, games, etc the thing is perfectly crisp. Very enjoyable
Yes Indeed. I do suspect the Note 10.1 2015 may come with an AMOLED screen. But not anything over 10.5".

ShadowLea said:
You can use a regular stylus with a rubber tip on a Tab S, yes. But an Spen isn't a regular stylus, so it isn't pressure sensitive, has no button, no action menu and no interactions.
If you draw a lot on it, nothing beats an Spen. I tried drawing with a regular stylus but it's just not the same. No pressure sensitivity whatsoever.
I quite enjoy watching films on this thing. On the main homescreen it looks like you can see the screen pattern, but in films, games, etc the thing is perfectly crisp. Very enjoyable
Yes Indeed. I do suspect the Note 10.1 2015 may come with an AMOLED screen. But not anything over 10.5".
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I can't live without the S pen either. I use the note 4 as my main phone. The problem is mine is LTE and AT&T is going to make me wait 60 days till they give me the unlock code for a new device. Since I travel a lot I don't know if I could deal with that again

Nexus 5 2015 (LG VS HUAWEI)?

As we come closer to October, it's always fun to speculate!
Would you rather have the LG Nexus 5 or the Huawei made Nexus 5?
here's a re-cap on the "rumored" specs so far:
LG Nexus 5:
- Snapdragon 808 processor
- 4GB RAM
- 5.2 inch display
- 2700mAh battery.
Huawei Nexus 5
- Snapdragon 810
- 3500mAh battery
-5.7 inch display
- likely 4GB of ram
so, yeah...which one would you choose?
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Definitely LG.

Would prefer the one coming with 820.... 808 is weak in graphics and 810 is heater which becomes a oven in India.... ??

Definitely the LG. Since these phones are kinda being seen as "sequels", the Hauwei Nexus is just too damn big for me, same exact reason why I don't want an N6. The LG model seems like it's gonna be the perfect update to an already capable design.
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Would like the future LG Nexus to have at least 3000mAh battery. Might go with the Huawei if it is only 2700.
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LG all the way...

LG without question.
I'd rather just get the N6 if it ends up being that Huawei. Actually, I would just keep my N5 2013 at that point..

LG did very well with the N4 and N5-13...so why not again.
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LG without doubt

Interesting results so far.
I am happy with the way LG handled the nexus 5 2013 and will likely not stray away from them in 2015.
LG all the way!
(I S hold have done a poll)

I will just avoid anything with 810

Where did you hear it will be the 810? I've only heard rumors of 820.
That a side I would prefer the lg unless like others mentioned that is the battery size then I'll give the huawei a shot. Also depends on other things too. Speaker placement, wireless charging, price. Ect

LG for damn sure. Nexus 4 have already served me well for 2 full years, and Nexus 5 as a backup device also gave me a nice impression. It just feels like Nexus should be made by LG by now... especially since no one else got it "righter" than LG
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I dont know if 808 is such a good decision considering that the g4 has it and lg is planning to release a 820 version already later this year. I dont know.. I would rather have the 810 or 820 which really is a jump

remember, these are all just Rumored specs. All three companies(google, LG, Huawei) have been silent
even if Huawei releases the 820 (I heard the chip is coming out in Dec. so, it wont be in phones till at least summer '16) it looks as if most people would still choose the LG made Nexus.

I loved my N5. but I had to switch to LG G4 because of speaker/sound quality. I need all day long to talk on phone and it became really anoying after couple minutes the poor sound.
But the N5 support on developement is great and esteticly I loved it.
So I'm really excited about the new N5.
I just hope it wont be equiped with SnapDragon 810 because of overheat. Where I live in summer it's about 40 degrees, so... you know
Ans for sure, I hope LG will release it!!!!! LG all the way!

Wow, look at those poll results, lol. After using the Nexus 6 for a couple months and never really enjoying it I am waiting for a smaller phone. Even 5.5 is too big. I am hoping a 5.2" LG will feel similar to the current Nexus 5.

This big phone trend is completely idiotic, its like no manufacturer scans the market to see what people want. The sweet spot for most people is 4.7-5.0 (more or less). Yet they keep making phones too ****in big and give no alternative, its just plain stupid. They just release the "mini" versions, completely idiotic cripled versions of flagship phones, overpriced. Sony is the only one who has some sense about this, but their prices are way too high.
If any brand like lg or sony or htc made a flagship phone with a good cpu, a 4.7 inch screen(or maybe even 5.0 with reduced borders) 1080p, 2 or 3gb ram, a good 3000mah battery and a price point of around 350 euros or something, it would probably become the top selling phone in little time. But no, lets make them all 5.5 or even bigger and always with some flaw to keep the consumer from buying it lol.
True that some people like big phones, but most people dont...I dont understand why manufacturers cant figure this out honestly...

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This big phone trend is completely idiotic, its like no manufacturer scans the market to see what people want. The sweet spot for most people is 4.7-5.0 (more or less). Yet they keep making phones too ****in big and give no alternative, its just plain stupid. They just release the "mini" versions, completely idiotic cripled versions of flagship phones, overpriced. Sony is the only one who has some sense about this, but their prices are way too high.
If any brand like lg or sony or htc made a flagship phone with a good cpu, a 4.7 inch screen(or maybe even 5.0 with reduced borders) 1080p, 2 or 3gb ram, a good 3000mah battery and a price point of around 350 euros or something, it would probably become the top selling phone in little time. But no, lets make them all 5.5 or even bigger and always with some flaw to keep the consumer from buying it lol.
True that some people like big phones, but most people dont...I dont understand why manufacturers cant figure this out honestly...
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With the exception of battery you described three nexus 5. Or z3 compact (and it's not selling that much) I want the same size screen as nexus 5, but definitely more than 2gb of ram. 3 minimum, but would like 4 so the phone could last more than a year.

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With the exception of battery you described three nexus 5. Or z3 compact (and it's not selling that much) I want the same size screen as nexus 5, but definitely more than 2gb of ram. 3 minimum, but would like 4 so the phone could last more than a year.
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you just reinforced my point. Nexus 5 flaw: battery.
Why couldn't they just stick a better battery on it, even if it increased the price a bit? I like my nexus 5 very much but i hate battery life on this phone and will probably exchange it for a better alternative(hopefully the new 5.2 nexus if it comes with good battery life)
the z3 compact isnt selling much because its price is way too high. Put its price around 250 euros (which would suit given the specs it has) and it would sell like a flagship phone. It was actually one of my choices before the nexus 5. But when i saw the price asked for it...way too high and went for the N5 instead
btw i would rather have 2gb ram with a good battery than 3 or 4gb with a crappy one...since manufacturers always want to cut costs i would prefer they would not cut on battery

Moto X style vs OnePlus two.

So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.

Personal opinion for everything within; don't quote me as gospel. Have a google around yourself and make your own decisions based on that.
SD808 vs SD810; the SD808 is used in the LG G4 whilst the HTC One M9 uses the SD810 so you should be able to get a basic idea from this comparison. As far as I know about the LG G4, the SD808 performs really well and doesn't leave you wanting for nothing. I personally don't own a G4 so a G4 owner and M9 owner could answer this better. Have a look online and see what people are saying. Linus Tech Tips have video reviews for both phones so that may also be some help for you.
3gb vs 4gb ram; I don't think this is really going to affect mobile users. If we take a look at apple, the ipad air has 1gb ram and performs really well. Same with the iphone 6 and I don't know anyone who owns one that complains about it. Granted, iOS and android are two different beasts - but if 1gb is fine over there, 3gb should be more than sufficient for us.
USB Type-C; even though native support for USB Type-C is coming around in Android M, I don't think the adoption for it will be very quick. I know apple has it on their new macbook air (I believe) - but widespread adoption will be some time from now. Micro-USB is still going to be around for a while imo and won't be an issue for the Moto X.
Again, personal opinion. I'd go for the Moto X based on the fact that Motorola have a good name behind them, build good quality phones that last and have a decent customer service track record, whereas if you look on the oneplus forums (I'd say take it with a pinch of salt but you may need a barrel of salt) you'll find quite a lot of complaints regarding Oneplus' customer service. Granted, they are quite a young company and these issues may not be around for much longer as they work out the kinks in their processes but it's something to consider as every so often, there will be a faulty phone and it may just be your bad luck in getting the bad egg.

Skyerin said:
Personal opinion for everything within; don't quote me as gospel. Have a google around yourself and make your own decisions based on that.
SD808 vs SD810; the SD808 is used in the LG G4 whilst the HTC One M9 uses the SD810 so you should be able to get a basic idea from this comparison. As far as I know about the LG G4, the SD808 performs really well and doesn't leave you wanting for nothing. I personally don't own a G4 so a G4 owner and M9 owner could answer this better. Have a look online and see what people are saying. Linus Tech Tips have video reviews for both phones so that may also be some help for you.
3gb vs 4gb ram; I don't think this is really going to affect mobile users. If we take a look at apple, the ipad air has 1gb ram and performs really well. Same with the iphone 6 and I don't know anyone who owns one that complains about it. Granted, iOS and android are two different beasts - but if 1gb is fine over there, 3gb should be more than sufficient for us.
USB Type-C; even though native support for USB Type-C is coming around in Android M, I don't think the adoption for it will be very quick. I know apple has it on their new macbook air (I believe) - but widespread adoption will be some time from now. Micro-USB is still going to be around for a while imo and won't be an issue for the Moto X.
Again, personal opinion. I'd go for the Moto X based on the fact that Motorola have a good name behind them, build good quality phones that last and have a decent customer service track record, whereas if you look on the oneplus forums (I'd say take it with a pinch of salt but you may need a barrel of salt) you'll find quite a lot of complaints regarding Oneplus' customer service. Granted, they are quite a young company and these issues may not be around for much longer as they work out the kinks in their processes but it's something to consider as every so often, there will be a faulty phone and it may just be your bad luck in getting the bad egg.
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Yeah, inclining towards the X style for now. Will wait for both's reviews now. Also, the 1+2 is priced at 25,000 (389$) in my country, and the new moto X 16gb version is priced at 399$, so that'll probably convert to 26,000 + leather/wood back ones are 2,000 extra so I guess the 64gb one will be priced around 35k, which is 40% higher price than 1+2. This one is a real doozy, both these phones at the end of the day are equal.
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bhu1 said:
Yeah, inclining towards the X style for now. Will wait for both's reviews now. Also, the 1+2 is priced at 25,000 (389$) in my country, and the new moto X 16gb version is priced at 399$, so that'll probably convert to 26,000 + leather/wood back ones are 2,000 extra so I guess the 64gb one will be priced around 35k, which is 40% higher price than 1+2. This one is a real doozy, both these phones at the end of the day are equal.
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One thing that may sway you towards the OP2 is that apparently (read this in a news article - take it with a barrel of salt again!) OP is concentrating heavily on selling around a million units in India, so they may be giving better support whereas Motorola may not be as prevalent in terms of support. Can't say for certain - not from and never been to India - but speaking from my experiences and knowledge of being in Pakistan for quite a while.
Also, if specs don't bother you too much, it may be an idea to look heavily at the moto x play, simply because of the huge battery whilst still being a really powerful phone.

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One thing that may sway you towards the OP2 is that apparently (read this in a news article - take it with a barrel of salt again!) OP is concentrating heavily on selling around a million units in India, so they may be giving better support whereas Motorola may not be as prevalent in terms of support. Can't say for certain - not from and never been to India - but speaking from my experiences and knowledge of being in Pakistan for quite a while.
Also, if specs don't bother you too much, it may be an idea to look heavily at the moto x play, simply because of the huge battery whilst still being a really powerful phone.
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Nah, OnePlus can't compete with moto's customer service. Even if they can, then also, not a big deal, customer service, it just needs to be good, I don't need it to be great. And no moto play for me, I decided that I'll buy a flagship, so I'll buy a flagship.
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iOS and Android system have much differences, that's why 1gb RAM feels so different between Android and iOS..
I've found complete explanation of it but forgot the source *sorry*
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Come on be serious...what comparison is this. Compare 1+1 with 1+2 or 1+2 with my 4 years old htc sensation
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So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.
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Depending on how you use your phone and how each phone handles battery life, the rate of charging might not be a factor to consider. If you burn through battery (and/or the phone itself helps) and can't get a days worth then fast charging should be important. If you don't use your phone much, turn radios off, etc. and charge your phone when you are asleep then either method of charging will do. Neither phone has wireless charging so you'd have to look elsewhere to get it. Feel is totally subjective and ONLY important for your tastes/wants. The screen is a contentious issue as some don't see a difference between 2k and 1080p, think the increase is worth the battery hit, or other reasons specific to the screens compared. If DxO is to be believed then the rear sensor in the Style is something to be reckoned with.
In real life usage, the 808 or 810 should be close to each other. The 808 is only "missing" two "Big" A57 cores when compared to the 810. The real difference is in benchmarks where having the "missing" cores will show better scores. With an almost stock Android interface the Style should show no feeling that "it needs more." I have no experience with OnePlus (or Moto and their OS optimizations) phones to speak on how Oxygen OS behaves. Since both phones aren't out to buy and be reviewed, any talk beforehand is just speculation. Wait for reviews from people you trust for an opinion or get a hand-on yourself on the UX "feel."
The amount of RAM you "need" or "should have" is debatable. If you play a lot of games and switch between heavy RAM-usage apps (or a lot of them) frequently, more RAM is beneficial. The type of RAM is cut-and-dry. LPDDR4 is simply better than LPDDR3. AS A STANDARD LPDDR4 operates at faster speeds AND uses less power than LPDDR3. Whether OnePlus has taken full advantage of the benefits has not been disclosed and no one has a device to find out the speed their RAM runs at for a definite conclusion.
USB Type-C is the "cable to end cables" when properly implemented. Full stop. Type-C was created with USB 3.1 and ALL of its benefits come with 3.1 AND software that enables those features. For the actual cable, Type-C brings a reversible plug (like Lightning) so there isn't a correct way you can plug the cable in. USB 2.0 (most likely in the Style too) will max at around 20 MB/s when transferring files to your computer or another device, and will be slower for smaller files. USB 3.0 and 3.1 will transfer at MUCH faster speeds with larger files. You can learn more about 3.1 and Type-C here and with a quick search. Other Type-C features aren't worth discussing as neither phone can take advantage of them.
Contact-less payments are supposed to finally take-off with the launch of Android (and Samsung) Pay to give that "extra push" to retailers that this is a feature that most would take advantage of when consumers can. Honestly, Apple Pay sowed the seed for contact-less payments. If contact-less payments is something you can see yourself doing then the OnePlus2 will not allow you to do so. Speaker quality or stereo speakers is a nice feature to have and should be considered if you play any media over the speakers. I have no comment with eithers' Costumer Support reputation.
For me, the decision between the OnePlus2 and Style is a no brainer. The OnePlus2 makes too many concessions against OnePlus' OWN BELIEFS and against the Style to make this a hard decision. Which is why I'll be replacing my G2 with the Style at some point this year, unless the new Nexus phone(s) are compelling enough

Think I may finally jump on a new phone, the Moto X Play or whatever it's being called for Verizon. That's a bit confusing. But Moto's radios are the best, a big factor, plus they finally went back to SD cards. I keep hearing the screen will not be tops due to it not being Amoled. Guess I'll have to check it out first before jumping. Also want it rooted, so I'm not going to be the one to jump first when it's sold so I can find out if it'll be rooted. But I'm definitely leaning towards that. It's either this or probably going to find a Note 4 developers addition and go that route...hard choices....

Moto x pure edition, not play
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Which is why I'll be replacing my G2 with the Style at some point this year, unless the new Nexus phone(s) are compelling enough
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Nexus line of phones will never provide microSD card slot (google wants you to use its cloud!), and the 64GB version will make you pay 100$ more than the basic 16GB model. The best 64GB cards are under 30$ right now. So, I essentially get 80GB of storage with Style for 70$ less. Give me Style any day over Nexus or even OP2 (which gives 64GB for 389).
More than that though, its the camera and front facing stereo speakers that excite me about Style. We will see when it comes out.

bhu1 said:
So initially I was really excited about the new 1+2, but since its launch I am a bit disappointed because of some crucial compromises that come with buying this phone. And under 24 hrs, moto launched its new Moto X style which just make me not like the 1+2 even more. But I am looking to buy one of these two phone so I logically comparing them to make a decision. With the current info we have moto X seem much better in many departments -
Design, Battery (Fast charge vs 1+2 charging in 3:20 hrs), wireless charging, more Premium feel according to many tech sites, 2k screen, the new Sony 21MP sensor.
But there are also some definite areas where 1+2 seems better but I wanna know 'How' much better, would like to know from someone who has used these processors or knows in detail about these RAMs and USB ports :-
808 vs 810, so the new moto X has the 808 while the 1+2 has 810, both are very mediocre processors from Qualcomm's standards, but it is what it is, so I wanna know exactly how much better 810 is than 808 in real life usage, will i be able to do all kinds of the most power consuming tasks for the next 2-3 years ?
3Gb Lpddr3 vs 4gb Lpddr4, here I am not sure if the new moto X has LPDDR4 or lpddr3 ram and if its 3 then how much difference will it have seeing as its also 3gb vs 4gb, in real life usage, how much difference is that ?
The USB - C port on the 1+2, I was really excited about this one before launch but after its launch I read 2-3 sites mentioning that it's 2.0 and not 3.1( don't know what that exactly that means), and hence it won't be much faster than a regular USB cable and u can't use it as a replacement for HDMI cable.
Edit - P.S. - Also, the moto X has NFC and much better speakers and better customer service.
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same thing happened to me
I'm dropping the two and will pick the moto x pure because it has the following that the two refused to add:
microsd slot
rapid charge
21 mp camera
front facing stereo speakers
invite-less purchase
but then that might change when the moto x pure is released

Id give the nod to the moto for several reasons the 3 big ones being.
ext sd card support, this is huge
Slightly larger screen
Moto customer support. If you read anything about OPO one thing is for sure in that their support is terrible.
Thats 3 reasons enough for me.:thumbup:
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I was inclined towards the one plus two before launch. Had really big expectations. But Moto X Style has upped the stakes. The only problem is availability and pricing. In India the customer service of Motorola is good. Only if Motorola announces the availability and pricing
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At this point I'd say moto x is my pick, one plus invite system is a turn off and is already starting to make me not want to get the device.

I still don't get their reasoning for leaving out NFC from the OP2. They claim it wasn't widely used and it added cost, yet they decided to add a fingerprint sensor...

Jweimn said:
At this point I'd say moto x is my pick, one plus invite system is a turn off and is already starting to make me not want to get the device.
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And theres an artlicle online where someone says he cheated the invite reservation system haha. But yeah its all a joke tbh as you spam people to go up the list.
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Sporttster said:
Think I may finally jump on a new phone, the Moto X Play or whatever it's being called for Verizon. That's a bit confusing. But Moto's radios are the best, a big factor, plus they finally went back to SD cards. I keep hearing the screen will not be tops due to it not being Amoled. Guess I'll have to check it out first before jumping. Also want it rooted, so I'm not going to be the one to jump first when it's sold so I can find out if it'll be rooted. But I'm definitely leaning towards that. It's either this or probably going to find a Note 4 developers addition and go that route...hard choices....
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I tried a Samsung Note 3 and I lost 7% of my calls according to Verizon. I switched to a Motorola n6 six months ago and haven't lost a call since. My dBm ranges from 100 to 121 (right now it 114). Motorola is the only one that can hold on to a phone call where I live. So, I will only buy Motorola phones from now on.

I had the OPO for about a year and finally was able to return it.
Too many touch issues and since getting Lollipop I've had nothing but battery issues. I tried many roms however I couldn't stand it.
I tried the Moto X 2nd gen for 2 days and fell in love.
Currently i'm testing out the Nexus 6 to see if I can handle the screen size, so far it's good however I'd like it to be a little smaller so I think the new Moto X might be fine.
I wish they went with a 5.5 and non QHD or at least went with a bigger battery.
I'm hoping the new Moto X's camera will be better than the Nexus 6

If I was rich I would get both. But the biggest advantage of the oneplus2 will likely be battery life. I have a feeling that the oneplus2 will be easier to hold. I like the fact that you can program the capacitive buttons on either side of the home button. But overall the moto x style would get my hard earned money. Software and screen quality/size give it the leg up on the oneplus2 for me.

are developers ready for porting note 5 to our beloved note 3 :)

galaxy note 5 confirmed to be announcing in 13 august this year and it will sure having a new interface touchwiz skin of course it will be much better than the s6 many features it will add like
1-enhanced pen applications
2-updated camera application
and many things enhanced but with removing deal breaker features like sd card and also a fixed battery
q1- will u upgrade to note 5 all the way without caring about removing features ?
q2-or you will just find xda note 5 roms and flashed and staying in note 3 ?

i will not update simply because the newer phones dont give me more usability than my note 3. i dont need more power since my note 3 runs pretty fluently with costum rom/kernel and the only things thats get better are the cameras buuuuuuut not as much as they have to make me changing my current phone.
for the rom ports. lets wait and see. devs doing a really awesome job so far porting newer touchwiz versions

Even if i would buy a note 5 i would flash an aosp rom ? So i gonna stick another year with my note 3. Android M will come for sure (cm13)

The deciding factor for me at least will be which battery rumor turns out correct. We still don't know if it's a 3000 mAh or a 4100 mAh unit (we ALL hope it's the latter, I guess ).
If it's a 4100 mAh, with the Exynos 7420 inside the thing will be able to last two days and I'll really consider it.
If the 3000 mAh rumor turns out to be true, well, I'll keep my Note 3 till the Nexus 5 (2015) comes out. There was a leaked AnTuTu bench result which downright smashed everything else on the table which suggests the Snapdragon 820 inside.
So, if I have to have a crappy battery life, I prefer it in pure AOSP package.

Wether I upgrade or not depends on three things:
MicroSD slot
CPU/GPU combo
mAh.
If it comes without a MicroSD, everything else is irrelevant. I will not buy it. I have a 128GB MicroSD that's completely full with films and series.
Spare me the mentions of the cloud, try living next to the border for a while, or use public transport in a mobile deadzone for 6 hours a day, see if you still think the cloud is an option.
And anyone who mentions that the MicroSD is slow, and how 'amazingly fast' internal memory is: It's not meant for apps, you muppet.
If it does come with a MicroSD slot, then an Exynos is still a no-go for me. Ditto for any mAh rating below or on par with the 3200mAh of my Note 3.
sirobelec said:
There was a leaked AnTuTu bench result which downright smashed everything else on the table which suggests the Snapdragon 820 inside.
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God I hope so... Exynos is pure crap wrapped up in a layer of sheer rubbish. Especially the Mali GPU that comes with it.... I will never buy an Exynos device again.
An S820 would be perfect.
But then there's this.... IF this is true, then anyone buying the Note 5 is an idiot, when the Note 4 is a far superior device that is far less expensive.

ShadowLea said:
Wether I upgrade or not depends on three things:
MicroSD slot
CPU/GPU combo
mAh.
If it comes without a MicroSD, everything else is irrelevant. I will not buy it. I have a 128GB MicroSD that's completely full with films and series.
Spare me the mentions of the cloud, try living next to the border for a while, or use public transport in a mobile deadzone for 6 hours a day, see if you still think the cloud is an option.
And anyone who mentions that the MicroSD is slow, and how 'amazingly fast' internal memory is: It's not meant for apps, you muppet.
If it does come with a MicroSD slot, then an Exynos is still a no-go for me. Ditto for any mAh rating below or on par with the 3200mAh of my Note 3.
God I hope so... Exynos is pure crap wrapped up in a layer of sheer rubbish. Especially the Mali GPU that comes with it.... I will never buy an Exynos device again.
An S820 would be perfect.
But then there's this.... IF this is true, then anyone buying the Note 5 is an idiot, when the Note 4 is a far superior device that is far less expensive.
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My bad, I didn't complete my sentences.
The Note 5 will have Exynos only, the monstrous AnTuTu bench had the name Nexus 5 (2015) in it.

sirobelec said:
My bad, I didn't complete my sentences.
The Note 5 will have Exynos only, the monstrous AnTuTu bench had the name Nexus 5 (2015) in it.
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Bummer.
I did spot a report on the S820 being tested, though. Note 6, anyone?

It's bad note 5 doesnt had sd card slot and removeable battery :/

I would rather buy saygus v2.... Then note 5 or s6 edge +...... Samsung going down in mobile....
Its either note 6, or no note user further... Looks like samsung took note users for granted.... Let samsung face it.. Bye bye samsung...
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Aparently they're also releasing a dualSIM Note 5 where the second SIMslot doubles as a MicroSD slot. (According to Sammobile). And that's just for China.
I'll keep saying it, chances are we'll see a Note5+ with a Snapdragon 820 and MicroSD slot for Europe once the S820 becomes available.

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Best phones with 7+ inches display

Hi, I am looking for a smartphone with a display that is at least 7 inches and relatively affordable.
I was hoping to get a Honor X30 Max but that is only for Chinese market. I saw that Huawei had a Mate 20X but that is quite old at this point.
Is there any alternative at this point, or any credible rumor about a similar device coming to European/US markets soon? Thanks.

You can still get a new Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Plus SM-N975U 256GB (FACTORY UNLOCKED) for $800. 4G, 12gb ram variant.
Running on Q. Got one about 3 months ago, it's my second one.
Though its AMOLED display is fixed at 60hz, it's color rendering exceeds many of the newer phones. Supports up to a 1tb SD card.
You can buy used ones for less but you need to be careful, lots of scamming going on.

blackhawk said:
You can still get a new Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Plus SM-N975U 256GB (FACTORY UNLOCKED) for $800. 4G, 12gb ram variant.
Running on Q. Got one about 3 months ago, it's my second one.
Though its AMOLED display is fixed at 60hz, it's color rendering exceeds many of the newer phones. Supports up to a 1tb SD card.
You can buy used ones for less but you need to be careful, lots of scamming going on.
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Thank you, not a 7+ inches though. Although not sure how much difference 6.8 vs 7.2 would make in real life.

dieffequ said:
Thank you, not a 7+ inches though. Although not sure how much difference 6.8 vs 7.2 would make in real life.
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An AMOLED vs LCD though make a huge difference. The curved screen takes away some space on the R/L but it has other uses with Samsung's. The spen is also very handy to have mostly for Smart Capture and as a remote shutter release.
It's a 2yo phone but I wasn't pleased with how Samsung or Android 11/12 are evolving so I stuck with what works. It's a fun phone.
Whatever you get, get a good case for it...