So im thinking of replacing my note 4 with this or the 10 inch tab, any chance of a 2015 note tablet? Or am i safe getting a 2014 version
Also how does this compare with a note 4?
My note 4 lags alot (thinking its defective) and i only use it at home as its not my primary phone.
It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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Yes, ive tried a reset and eveything else to fix it.
So its best to wait till after CES to buy a note tablet?
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Yes, ive tried a reset and eveything else to fix it.
So its best to wait till after CES to buy a note tablet?
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Press releases will probably hit today, Monday and Tuesday. But they could wait until Barcelona, that's around the time when they normally announce their new phones, so they might push a tablet announcement out until then.
Id be ok waiting till march, but this is going on my verizon tablet line. And as far as im aware theres usually a gap between the tablets release and when verizon releases their LTE model.
Would be it be unwise to get the pro, and use it till the next one comes out on verizon? (Im estimating a late 2015 release date for the verizon LTE model if they do releas a new tablet)
there is a rumored 10.1 2015 edition that has been spotted in name only so far on some advertising. I had the original Note 10.1 then got the Note 10.1 2014 and was very pleased, the super slow recharge was partial reasoning for me to give it to my gf and then got the Verizon Note 12.2 Pro LTE for the Qualcomm chip that I thought had the quick charge function on the chipset. It does charge pretty fast but for how much I spoent I thought it would have had the Note 4 type Fast Charge. I was able to root the Verizon tablet but future versions after the 4.4.2 exploit will close that loophole. I personally dont understand that they make it so difficult by having a locked bootloader on Verizon. I paid $1000 for the tablet, I want to do whatever I want to it! I love the size vs the 10.1, which feels small now as I have adjust to the bigger screens.
The price point is the issue. In Future, I would just get the WiFi only model as that is usually the version for anything custom (ROMS, recovery, kernel) and are usually widely supported more in my opinion. I'd love to see a Super AMOLED, uses less power, 2k version (whatever the Note 4 specs are) for 12.2 Note Pro. I would love for them to have the fast charge feature just like the NOTE 4, the newer air command of Note 4 vs Note 3/10.1/12.2, Camera improvements passed along, 3 or 4 GB of RAM, larger batteries, thinner bezel. The updated stylus that is more responsive. this is an evolutionary tablet, which I am fine with...
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there is a rumored 10.1 2015 edition that has been spotted in name only so far on some advertising. I had the original Note 10.1 then got the Note 10.1 2014 and was very pleased, the super slow recharge was partial reasoning for me to give it to my gf and then got the Verizon Note 12.2 Pro LTE for the Qualcomm chip that I thought had the quick charge function on the chipset. It does charge pretty fast but for how much I spoent I thought it would have had the Note 4 type Fast Charge. I was able to root the Verizon tablet but future versions after the 4.4.2 exploit will close that loophole. I personally dont understand that they make it so difficult by having a locked bootloader on Verizon. I paid $1000 for the tablet, I want to do whatever I want to it! I love the size vs the 10.1, which feels small now as I have adjust to the bigger screens.
The price point is the issue. In Future, I would just get the WiFi only model as that is usually the version for anything custom (ROMS, recovery, kernel) and are usually widely supported more in my opinion. I'd love to see a Super AMOLED, uses less power, 2k version (whatever the Note 4 specs are) for 12.2 Note Pro. I would love for them to have the fast charge feature just like the NOTE 4, the newer air command of Note 4 vs Note 3/10.1/12.2, Camera improvements passed along, 3 or 4 GB of RAM, larger batteries, thinner bezel. The updated stylus that is more responsive. this is an evolutionary tablet, which I am fine with...
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A family member has the 10.5 Tab S, which is a bit newer than the notepro and it even that doesnt have QuickCharge or Usb 3.0
Note pro and Tab S are already 2k/3gb ram, and i dnt see the need for a 4k android tablet.
Im in a contact for a tablet line anyways, so might as well get the LTE model and plus im not a fan of the exynos chips.
Still not sure if if i should get the notepro or wait, i use my note 4 for drawing, multitasking browsing/media/notes/other apps.
I totally agree agree with agree with your observations as well. I was merely speculating what I personally would like to see. I prefer the Qualcomm chips as 805 has the quick charge feature built in. The WiFi Exnoys is getting all the custom support at least in US, as the p905v (has locked bootloader, stupid verizon). If the bootloader was unlocked my opinion would greatly change. I want to see a note version of the tab S, since they finally used a super ambled screen, thus uses less power on lighting up the screen as the black diodes use no power and let's do. Maybe I was meaning 4G of RAM, that is just to keep everything running smoothly. I much prefer the 12.2 screen size over the 10.1 as I have become use to the larger screen size, now the 10.1 seems too small. It all depends on how much you are using it. I suppose I just felt the need to have the next new toy. I do think the USB 3, never got utilized so them going back to USB 2.0 as long as it has the new fast charger adapter, same one as Note 4, thus making things interchangeable. If it must be LTE then so be it.
If you are just getting a hold over tablet for your drawing then I think maybe ok to buy. I was jus a little disappointed especially since I paid 1000 vs say 750 for LTE version of. Verizon.....
My personal wish list is what I was referring to. I'm sorry for hijacking the thread. If money isn't an issue then get note 12.2 pro LTE.....note 10.1 2014 p600 isn't bad either and has custom support, but again. I was on WiFi only versions previous to this p905v, so my knowledge is purely based on my on usage.
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I bought a 12.2 lte as soon as it was released here, and I was pretty impressed with the snapdragon performance after several exynos phones and tablets - after lots of tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) extremely satisfied with the performance.
Then came the Note 4 lte. Everything I was expecting - way better than the 12.2 out of the box, and after heavy tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) I'm extremely happy with my Note 4.
So, if you're not happy with a Note 4, you'll hate a 12.2 and should wait for the next generation. When is a 13" Note coming? I want one!
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I bought a 12.2 lte as soon as it was released here, and I was pretty impressed with the snapdragon performance after several exynos phones and tablets - after lots of tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) extremely satisfied with the performance.
Then came the Note 4 lte. Everything I was expecting - way better than the 12.2 out of the box, and after heavy tweaking (bye bye touchwiz) I'm extremely happy with my Note 4.
So, if you're not happy with a Note 4, you'll hate a 12.2 and should wait for the next generation. When is a 13" Note coming? I want one!
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Its not that i dont like the device, just that it freezes and lags a lot And i rather not pay samsung to fix it. The note 4 isnt even my main line, so it doesnt leave the house, i use it as a tablet.
What makes the 12.2 bad?
Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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i have nothing to lose waiting i guess.
But id want the verizon LTE version of any anounced Note Tablet, i got rid of my LTE ipad mini so now i have an empty tablet line that i have to pay for till 2016.
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Like I said, until I got my Note 4 I was really pleased with it. Now I want a 13" with the performance of a Note 4. I was making a subjective comparison that the Note 4 snapdragon performs way better than the older gen Note 12.2 snapdragon, so anyone considering investing so much money may decide to wait and see if there's an announcement next month. ..
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I posted in the note 4 xda section, and theyre pretty much telling me my note 4 is defective.
I have 4 options
1) get the note pro
2) buy the tab S of a family member (mostly for the samoled screen)
3) try to get a Certfied Note 4 off verizon
4) buy another note 4
The note 4 was on my line, but i replaced it with an iphone 6+. Right now its just a tablet (it doesnt even have a sim in it.) Let say i get a working a note 4, im still only going to use it at home as a tablet, which is why im thinking of a note tablet.
So my questions to u are
1) Would u say the LCD screen was a disapoiment? Compare to a samoled (is having a samoled screen Tab S really worth giving up the note features)
2) in what way does ur note pro prefor inferior to your note 4?
For example I dont play any games on my note 4
On my note 4 i use it to draw [sketchbookx + spen], youtube 1080p +, videos of my memory card [720p or less Quality], play about 48gbs of music, and a lot of internet browsing. (I actually do all my browsing on it since i hate my iphones browsers/1gb of ram)
i use the multi window feature alot, running several things at once. I also like how they minimize to a bubble if u need to get it out of ur way but dont want to closw it.
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It hasn't been announced, but if it will happen, it'll be at the CES 2015, which starts 2 days from now, from 6-9 january.
There have been no leaks whatsoever, so I rather doubt it. They were working on a 13" device, so perhaps that's the next version. I'd wait until 10 january. If it hasn't been announced by then, it probably won't be any time soon.
Your Note 4 should not lag. Have you tried a factory reset?
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It will probably be announced at ifa
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It will probably be announced at ifa
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Well, the current one was announced in January, released in march. They normally don't deviate from such dates in a lineup.
I suspect a new version simply isn't viable yet.
IFA remains a possibility, but I doubt it.
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Well, the current one was announced in January, released in march. They normally don't deviate from such dates in a lineup.
I suspect a new version simply isn't viable yet.
IFA remains a possibility, but I doubt it.
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I think so too, im going to just go for it then (can always return it/get the 2015 devicd)
Thing is people have been telling me the tab s is the better tablet now. Why i do like samoled screen for videos, i cant think of any other reason the Tab S would be better. Especially since the spen gets so much use from me (drawing)
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I think so too, im going to just go for it then (can always return it/get the 2015 devicd)
Thing is people have been telling me the tab s is the better tablet now. Why i do like samoled screen for videos, i cant think of any other reason the Tab S would be better. Especially since the spen gets so much use from me (drawing)
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An AMOLED screen has infinite contrast, since black is generated by turning the LEDs off. It also has a higher colour saturation (so more vibrant). For films that's a little prettier. Due to the black=LED Off system, black systems are more power efficient. However, Samsung lost all IQ and decided to implement White menu's on everything, and combined with Google's white Material design in every app it barely makes a difference anymore. Films, even thrillers, are never true black, so in that respect it also makes no difference in battery life.
Sadly, the Tab S doesn't come in 12.2" nor with an Spen.
In terms of internal hardware the Tab S is identical to the Tab Pro and Note Pro.
If there was a Note Pro 2015 and it came with an AMOLED screen, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. But Samsung has already stated that 12.2" AMOLED is far too expensive to produce, and would result in an additional 250 quid ontop of the already hefty pricetag.
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An AMOLED screen has infinite contrast, since black is generated by turning the LEDs off. It also has a higher colour saturation (so more vibrant). For films that's a little prettier. Due to the black=LED Off system, black systems are more power efficient. However, Samsung lost all IQ and decided to implement White menu's on everything, and combined with Google's white Material design in every app it barely makes a difference anymore. Films, even thrillers, are never true black, so in that respect it also makes no difference in battery life.
Sadly, the Tab S doesn't come in 12.2" nor with an Spen.
In terms of internal hardware the Tab S is identical to the Tab Pro and Note Pro.
If there was a Note Pro 2015 and it came with an AMOLED screen, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. But Samsung has already stated that 12.2" AMOLED is far too expensive to produce, and would result in an additional 250 quid ontop of the already hefty pricetag.
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Sounds like theyre just being bias then if the internals are identical, and i imagine the note lcd screen isnt too shabby for videos anyways. They were saying you can use a stylus pen on the tab S but its just not the same. Think ill go for the Note Tablet.
Its more likely the next 10.1 note would carry the AMOLED than the Pro or maybe even a new AMOLED Note 8.0.
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Sounds like theyre just being bias then if the internals are identical, and i imagine the note lcd screen isnt too shabby for videos anyways. They were saying you can use a stylus pen on the tab S but its just not the same. Think ill go for the Note Tablet.
Its more likely the next 10.1 note would carry the AMOLED than the Pro or maybe even a new AMOLED Note 8.0.
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You can use a regular stylus with a rubber tip on a Tab S, yes. But an Spen isn't a regular stylus, so it isn't pressure sensitive, has no button, no action menu and no interactions.
If you draw a lot on it, nothing beats an Spen. I tried drawing with a regular stylus but it's just not the same. No pressure sensitivity whatsoever.
I quite enjoy watching films on this thing. On the main homescreen it looks like you can see the screen pattern, but in films, games, etc the thing is perfectly crisp. Very enjoyable
Yes Indeed. I do suspect the Note 10.1 2015 may come with an AMOLED screen. But not anything over 10.5".
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You can use a regular stylus with a rubber tip on a Tab S, yes. But an Spen isn't a regular stylus, so it isn't pressure sensitive, has no button, no action menu and no interactions.
If you draw a lot on it, nothing beats an Spen. I tried drawing with a regular stylus but it's just not the same. No pressure sensitivity whatsoever.
I quite enjoy watching films on this thing. On the main homescreen it looks like you can see the screen pattern, but in films, games, etc the thing is perfectly crisp. Very enjoyable
Yes Indeed. I do suspect the Note 10.1 2015 may come with an AMOLED screen. But not anything over 10.5".
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I can't live without the S pen either. I use the note 4 as my main phone. The problem is mine is LTE and AT&T is going to make me wait 60 days till they give me the unlock code for a new device. Since I travel a lot I don't know if I could deal with that again
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WTF is this??
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/02/13/this-is-the-galaxy-tab-2/#.Tzk_2VnRwqc
Wow.
quoted from a cnet article..
The Galaxy Tab 2 will also become the first mobile device from Samsung to ship with its AllShare Play service. ????
So this was holding up our 4.0 update == the same hardware! doh!
to hit stores this march. I dont see anyreason why we wouldnt have our "update" by then.
clever marketing strategy Sammy, does this mean the new update will automagically transform our devices to become the new "Galaxy Tab 2"?
probably still no phone function in US.
I saw that too on Engadget, and I do not know if it's a good news or a bad one .
That "thing" seems to be quite the same as out G7+, so I wonder if we'd be able to flash the ICS FW straight from that one, before our device will be officially updated
By the way, I believe it's just the same device , slightly modified due to the recent apple/samsumg legal battle.
P_
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/hands-on-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-review-1062954
hands on..
lets just hope for a leaked FW anyday now..
I think they may have been testing the sale of the 7+ in diff regions, and may release this as a universal release. except for US of course getting a Wifi only most likely.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495134
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nice.
so we do have better hardware.
they probably also trying to cut costs as well as the processor issue.
well good to know we have the better hardware, so any ICS leaks wont work 100% then.
Wonder if its the end of the line for the 7+ ?
another forum on xda hopefully which means good fur us dev wise.. even if their ROMs wont run on our equpment.
Looks like they are going back to the Tegra2. Why break something when it's not fixed.
Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor, e.g. Tegra 2), and the fact that it has no LED flash, lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
This is becoming a bit ridiculous. The Tab Plus is not even properly introduced to market and we already have another version out?
This new one will be less expensive, maybe much less.
I would not be surprised if people start getting confused with
tab 7
tab 7 2
tab 7 plus
tab 7.7
and then all wifi and wifi/3g versions..
Why did they present it at a small show in Prague instead of MWC in few days? Does it make sense to you?
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Here's the thing. Aside from the fact that it has a lower clock speed on the processor, (possibly a different, cheaper processor, e.g. Tegra 2), and the fact that it has no LED flash, lower resolution front facing camera; if you look carefully at the official press photos, you will notice that it is a bit more "touchwizzed" (look at the icons, they are a lot like the icons on the phone and the OG Galaxy Tab 7, (with colored squares behind each app icon.) It seems that this may in fact be Samsung's answer to the new ASUS 7in, $250 ICS tablet. If this is Samsung's "budget tablet" then it makes sense. If this is true, it will show up on all of the carriers, (subsidized and contracted, of course,) and may hit retailers as a sub-$300 tablet. At that price point, this makes sense.
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The asus 250$ tablet is a tegra 3.
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The asus 250$ tablet is a tegra 3.
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I stand corrected. I was getting a bit confused. The $250 tablet, (which is still little more than a CES teaser,) is slated to be the ME370T. (I won't comment on build quality yet, since ASUS has serious issues building even their top of the line devices, i.e. Transformer Prime) The tablet I was referring to was the official $250 EeePad MeMo (ME171) which will have a 7-inch WXGA (1,280 x 800) IPS capacitive touchpanel, a 1.2GHz dual-core Qualcomm 8260 processor, a gigabyte of memory, 16GB / 32GB of storage, 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 2.1+EDR, a 1.2 megapixel front / 5 megapixel rear camera (with 1080p recording), an A-GPS sensor, gyroscope, proximity sensor and a micro-USB port. There's a 4,400mAh Li-polymer battery reportedly good for some 8.5 hours of video playback, and Android 4.0.1. The unit checks in with dimensions of 7.8- x 4.6- x 0.50-inches (and a weight of 14.2 ounces). Seeing as they haven't even announced a release date for the Tegra 3 ME370T, I have a feeling that the Galaxy Tab 2 is going to be competing with the similarly specced ME171. I hope that clears up any confusion I may have caused with my lack of clarity.
Its not quite a teaser. Reps from my company had it in hand at CES. It's pretty much official and will likely be a game changer, if Asus doesn't botch the roll out.
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Its not quite a teaser. Reps from my company had it in hand at CES. It's pretty much official and will likely be a game changer, if Asus doesn't botch the roll out.
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Unfortunately, it was a prototype unit, (and it felt like it,) While I don't doubt that Asus intends to bring it to market, I do doubt that they'll be able to make it very well at that price point with the types of parts they are claiming. Also, it's ASUS, they'll botch the roll out. They always do. Their devices always launch with build quality issues.
I wasn't there personally but a prototype makes sense. Looks like we're going to have to wait and see. I agree that a budget tab makes the most sense. With the 7+ being the big brother.
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I wasn't there personally but a prototype makes sense. Looks like we're going to have to wait and see. I agree that a budget tab makes the most sense. With the 7+ being the big brother.
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Will the average consumer understand the difference between tab plus and tab 2?
Many will think a Tab *2* is newer and better then a Tab *Plus*. like a S 2 is better then a S plus.
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Will the average consumer understand the difference between tab plus and tab 2?
Many will think a Tab *2* is newer and better then a Tab *Plus*. like a S 2 is better then a S plus.
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I don't know. Depends how they market it. The cynic in me says that the 7+ will become an after thought to both consumers and Samsung. It wouldn't be the first time they've done it.
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All I want to know is will the 7+ get ICS?
Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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The G-Tab 2 is a nice value-level tablet that's not very powerful. It's going to $279 at Costco on Black Friday. The Note is a high-end tablet that's fast and has a ton of unique features centered around productivity and creativity. If you don't need the power and additional features then yes, you should have gotten a G-Tab 2. The Nexus 10 is also fast and powerful and slots somewhere in between price wise. That probably would be a better investment for those not looking for the Note's extra benefits. I had a G-Tab I and got rid of it to get the Note primarily for the additional performance and productivity.
mannysroot said:
Hi
I've recently also bought a Samsung note 10.1 - is it worth the extra in comparison to the samsung tab 2 10 inch? I plan to keep it long term so thought the quad core would out last the dual core of the samsung tab 2. But I am now thinking i wont really need all that power?
Thanks
Manny
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012
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Yes; you've purchased the correct tablet. Although the Tab 2 10.1 falls into a very comfortable price bracket, the hardware of the Note 10.1 more than justifies it's relative expense. While you may not feel as though your specific needs warrant a device as powerful as the Note 10.1, the Note 10.1's raw processing horsepower will leave it sitting pretty with future versions of Android for some time to come. However, the Tab 2 10.1 isn't even as powerful or as well built as it's predecessor. Because of this, I don't see the Tab 2 10.1 receiving many updates after it gets Jelly Bean. As a matter of fact, I would be really surprised if Samsung decided to update the Tab 2 10.1 to Jelly Bean 4.2. Rather, I suspect the Tab 2 10.1 will stay on Jelly Bean 4.1.* and receive only stability patches, security patches, and bugfixes thereafter. If the Tab 2 10.1 does indeed receive a Samsung update to Jelly Bean 4.2, I would expect it to be the last. With Android's hardware requirements becoming ever more stringent, it was foolish for Samsung to release a device as underpowered as the Tab 2 10.1. Furthermore, the release of the Tab 2 10.1 marks the only occasion I can remember in which the device is less powerful and/or less desireable than the device it is supposed to be replacing. The original Tab 10.1 is superior to the Tab 2 10.1 in almost every respect. In my opinion, the only thing Samsung got right with the Tab 2 10.1 is the forward-facing speakers.
So, to sum things up, if you indeed have a Note 10.1, you've made a very solid investment and you have decidedly good taste. I wish you the best. I hope you enjoy your tablet. Take care and have a good one!
Thank you,
Ed (Mister_Mxyzptlk)
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012
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Furthermore, the release of the Tab 2 10.1 marks the only occasion I can remember in which the device is less powerful and/or less desireable than the device it is supposed to be replacing. The original Tab 10.1 is superior upgrade uto the Tab 2 10.1 in almost every respect
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I almost agree. yes some things were a downgrade but definitely not the processor or GPU. No it doesn't have flash for the camera. But the OMAP does hold its own, the setup is actually pretty decent and it runs circles around Tegra 2, and can be put against Tegra 3. The main problem is touchwiz; it just bogs down the system, not to unusability, but it is noticeable. Put the Jellybean on it, and it's more smooth. Put AOKP on it and it flies better than the note with ICS. Plays games real smooth also. But other than that, what comes out of the box isnt impressive compared to what was being released at the current time. Not everyone wants to hack their tablet to get a good experience though, it is expected to come with one.
Who has to hack their device to get it running right? I've been sto k since day 1 and my Note 10.1 is fast, fluid, and never shows any lag. For me, this version of touchwiz doesn't slowdown device at all. Never had any issues. Note 10.1 IS FAR superior hardware wise to tab2.
If you want a cheaper tablet that performs great, get a Nexus 7 then. Its still one of the best. If not THE BEST. All around android tablet. A very popular device with xda users and several tech sites. I'd get a Nexus 7 over tab2 anyday if price was a factor.
This tablet is awesome. The pen alone sets it apart from all others and hardware is great too. Screen resolution is the only disappointment in my opinion but I understand the wacom grid for the pen creates limitations in that regard so I can live with lower resolution in return for the awesome pen.
I had a tab 2, they are ok if you're on a budget but if you want to keep costs down a nexus 7 32gb would be a better option. 16gb just isn't enough in my opinion. The omap 440 processor in the tab 2 is getting quite old now and wasn't exactly a top of the line performer on release.
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ok so by the sounds of it stick with the galaxy note 10.1
To be honest the price difference between them was approx £65 - one of the reasons I questioned whether it was the right tab was because the screen resolution wasnt any improvement over the tab 2
thanks for the advice guys
I meant hacking tab 2, and yes it's that annoying. Try one yourself. The note 10.1 is great, fluid etc but still lags a bit on ICS. Most, if not all, is fixed with 4.1
Try pinch zooming your home screen
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I almost agree. yes some things were a downgrade but definitely not the processor or GPU. No it doesn't have flash for the camera. But the OMAP does hold its own, the setup is actually pretty decent and it runs circles around Tegra 2, and can be put against Tegra 3. The main problem is touchwiz; it just bogs down the system, not to unusability, but it is noticeable. Put the Jellybean on it, and it's more smooth. Put AOKP on it and it flies better than the note with ICS. Plays games real smooth also. But other than that, what comes out of the box isnt impressive compared to what was being released at the current time. Not everyone wants to hack their tablet to get a good experience though, it is expected to come with one.
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Runs circles around the Tegra 2? WTF have you been reading?!
GTab 2 10.1 & OG GTab 10.1 Benchmarks:
http://db.tt/XhBmQA3y
Looks like it marginally beats the Tegra 2's CPU and gets spanked by the Tegra 2's GPU. I don't know what I'd call that, but I certainly wouldn't call that running circles around the Tegra 2.
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To be honest, if you have bought a tab and are asking this question then I believe you may have bought the wrong tab... I looked up both, weighed the pro's & cons and decided the note 10.1 was what I needed... If you are questioning that then either you didn't do the research or just got hung up on the extra features.
If you have the option to return with no problems and get a new tab then do so, it may be you will try the new tab and decide that the grass really was greener on the other side....
In Oz we have no such policies. What we buy we are stuck with. The only way to get our $$$ back is to sell on ebay...
I'm purchasing a galaxy note 2 from sprint next week. I am also in the market for a tablet its either the samsung note 10.1 or the ASUS infinity. Is there any benefits of having a samsung phone and tablet? The reasons why I want a infinity is for the slightly better display and battery performance, but like the S-Pen functions on the note 2. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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I'm purchasing a galaxy note 2 from sprint next week. I am also in the market for a tablet its either the samsung note 10.1 or the ASUS infinity. Is there any benefits of having a samsung phone and tablet? The reasons why I want a infinity is for the slightly better display and battery performance, but like the S-Pen functions on the note 2. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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In my opinion I believe the note 10.1 out performs the infinity and if all you want is the display get the nexus 10. I've had my note for 2 months and love it
isnt the nexus 10 have no expandable storage?
No it's not, that can be a deal breaker for some but i figure between dropbox and other cloud services it wouldn't bother me. But back to between the note and the infinity. Screen res the infinity definitely wins but hardware it's a close race. In quadrant standard (take that for what it's worth) i score consistently in the mid 5000's. When it updates to jelly bean it will be much better. (my galaxy s3 went from 5200 to 6100 with the update) i have yet to slow this thing down.
even though it is a lower res screen it still has more pixels than the ipad 2 and HD movies still look pretty stunning.
If you see some of the post in this forum there is a word that N10 has lots of issue specificly with display as far infinity is concerned it has whole list of issues which have been talked about by its owners in this as well as forum specific to infinity but when it comes to note you will find there are some issues with quality but it restricted to display only and most of the actual users (there are many who are fake owners who only citizise note) will only praise not
I agree that there are very few issues with this tablet, and if you have a note 2 then you will love having both devices so similar, it will make syncing them a breeze.
I previously had the Transformer TF101 (the original copper); this Note blows it out of the water. Sure, the display isn't on par with the Infinity's, but I got the Note because I use it for taking notes and drawing stuff. For me, I rather have the stylus over the keyboard (though I am looking for a keyboard dock of a sort) because I take notes in physics classes. However.. I'd go for the Nexus 10 if you don't need the stylus. Although this tablet has better hardware than almost everything out there (or is it just everything?), the Nexus 10 is a great price for a great tablet with a great display, and that's all you need if you don't want the stylus. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 for my phone, but I haven't noticed better syncing or whatever compared to when I used my Asus Tablet..
benefits:
- same apps for special Samsung markets
- synchronization works better on same brande devices
- special S pen application will works perfect on both device
- you need just Kies in PC (if you are using this kind of SW)
- compatibility of accesories
Hello i guys i wanna buy a tablet for web browsing,listen music,youtube,emails and im between those two tablets ,they have 50euros different in my country and i'm think what to buy... i heard the tab 3 has better battery life and i really appriciate lonng battery life.Thank you for listening and hope you share your wisdom
I would find a store where I could compare them side by side.
I have the Tab 3 8.0 and it is a fine tablet. It does everything that you stated you like to do, and it does it well. The build quality is great...much better than the Nexus 7 I owned.
But like everything else, everyone has their own opinions and those opinions will vary greatly. You will have to decide for yourself.
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Best buy has the new tab 4 series on sale. The 8" model for $240.
edit: you aren't in US. ?
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Best buy has the new tab 4 series on sale. The 8" model for $240.
edit: you aren't in US. ?
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so should i wait a bit for the tab4 to come out? . I'm more curious for battery life,how much battery life you got from tab3?
I also was choosing between the same two models a short time ago, and went with the tab 3 8.0. I would say for what you want to do with it go for the tab 3. I am very pleased with mine, and have even installed some very graphic intensive games and it handles them with no problem at all. And the battery life is great(not as much so while playing those high graphic games).
With the screen at about 30% brightness I have been getting almost an hour of screen time per 10% battery, while web surfing and email and the sutch.
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Best buy has the new tab 4 series on sale. The 8" model for $240.
edit: you aren't in US. ?
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I think tab 4 series are scam.What is the difference then tab 3 ? They are almost same devices.
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I think tab 4 series are scam.What is the difference then tab 3 ? They are almost same devices.
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I just saw the specs there are not so much differences over there.i found note 8 for 220 euros and tab 3 for 175 euros ,what should I go with at last for performance and battery life?
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I just saw the specs there are not so much differences over there.i found note 8 for 220 euros and tab 3 for 175 euros ,what should I go with at last for performance and battery life?
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If I had to choose between the two, the Note 8 all the way, no questions. The Tab 3 8 even though it came out in 2013 has a CPU that is already 3 1/2 years old. Do you absolutely need too go with Samsng , have you looked at the LG G Pad, you can buy them now for 275 dollars, it has 2GB of RAM, 1080P resolution, Qualcomm 600 CPU and has Gorilla Glass 3, where as the Tab 3 8 has nothing and the Note 8 has the first generation. Just an idea, its your money, but I would defiantly choose the Note 8. A much nicer tablet in almost every way. I would also check out the EVGA Note 7, it also has an active digitizer pen, a Nvidia Tegra 4 CPU that lays waste to both the the Tab 3 8 and Note 8, built in HDMI, doesn't have the bloated TouchWiz that takes up 700MB of system memory and is probably the laggiest Android version on the market today, plus it will get updates much, much faster as they come direct from Nvidia, draw back is its only 7 inches.
I would maybe even think about waiting a little, save up some cash and buy the Samsung Pro 8.3, their dropping in price pretty fast and is probably one of the best 8 inch Android tablets on the market today.
Though between you and me, dump the idea of buying an Andoid tablet all together and buy a Dell Venue 8 Pro Windows 8 tablet. Only 250 dollars, have gotten incredible reviews from every tech site and magazine out their, 2GB RAM, 32GB or 64GB storage, USB 3 through OTG, Miracast, active digitizer, much, much better multitasking through multiple windows, can display a movie on your TV and still use the tablet, if you still want Android, developers are working on a dual boot option so you will have the best of both worlds.
Just check out some of the reviews yourself, Arstechnica has a really good article on the Venue 8 Pro.
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If I had to choose between the two, the Note 8 all the way, no questions. The Tab 3 8 even though it came out in 2013 has a CPU that is already 3 1/2 years old. Do you absolutely need too go with Samsng , have you looked at the LG G Pad, you can buy them now for 275 dollars, it has 2GB of RAM, 1080P resolution, Qualcomm 600 CPU and has Gorilla Glass 3, where as the Tab 3 8 has nothing and the Note 8 has the first generation. Just an idea, its your money, but I would defiantly choose the Note 8. A much nicer tablet in almost every way. I would also check out the EVGA Note 7, it also has an active digitizer pen, a Nvidia Tegra 4 CPU that lays waste to both the the Tab 3 8 and Note 8, built in HDMI, doesn't have the bloated TouchWiz that takes up 700MB of system memory and is probably the laggiest Android version on the market today, plus it will get updates much, much faster as they come direct from Nvidia, draw back is its only 7 inches.
I would maybe even think about waiting a little, save up some cash and buy the Samsung Pro 8.3, their dropping in price pretty fast and is probably one of the best 8 inch Android tablets on the market today.
Though between you and me, dump the idea of buying an Andoid tablet all together and buy a Dell Venue 8 Pro Windows 8 tablet. Only 250 dollars, have gotten incredible reviews from every tech site and magazine out their, 2GB RAM, 32GB or 64GB storage, USB 3 through OTG, Miracast, active digitizer, much, much better multitasking through multiple windows, can display a movie on your TV and still use the tablet, if you still want Android, developers are working on a dual boot option so you will have the best of both worlds.
Just check out some of the reviews yourself, Arstechnica has a really good article on the Venue 8 Pro.
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Thank you mate for the message really really helpful .The note 8 cost 220 euros in my country the pro 8.4 300euros and the lg g pad 270. I was thinking the GPad but the I read that the battery go for 4-5 hours the most and I was kinda disappoint. then I thought for 8.4 but it's kinda expensive right now for an android tablet. Do you think I should go with the note 8 for 220euros or with gpad or wait for 8.4 price go down?
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Thank you mate for the message really really helpful .The note 8 cost 220 euros in my country the pro 8.4 300euros and the lg g pad 270. I was thinking the GPad but the I read that the battery go for 4-5 hours the most and I was kinda disappoint. then I thought for 8.4 but it's kinda expensive right now for an android tablet. Do you think I should go with the note 8 for 220euros or with gpad or wait for 8.4 price go down?
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Which country are you in, I'm in Switzerland and I know of a few really great shops that ship pretty much everywhere except the UK. If you absolutely need a tablet now I would go for the LG G Pad, the battery life is really not much different than the Note 8. The Google Play Edition model is defiantly the one I would go for as you will get frequent updates. You will absolutely love the 1080P resolution over the anemic 720P of the Note 8 and the Qualcomm 600 CPU found inside is extremely fast. It all depends if you need a tablet now though.
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Check out digitec.ch, it's in German but you can use a translator, their selling the LG for 250CH (205 EUR) for that price you can't go wrong.
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Which country are you in, I'm in Switzerland and I know of a few really great shops that ship pretty much everywhere except the UK. If you absolutely need a tablet now I would go for the LG G Pad, the battery life is really not much different than the Note 8. The Google Play Edition model is defiantly the one I would go for as you will get frequent updates. You will absolutely love the 1080P resolution over the anemic 720P of the Note 8 and the Qualcomm 600 CPU found inside is extremely fast. It all depends if you need a tablet now though.
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Check out digitec.ch, it's in German but you can use a translator, their selling the LG for 250CH (205 EUR) for that price you can't go wrong.
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I live in Greece and from what i saw today the LG gpad cost like 270 EUROS and we don't have here the playstore edition only the lg edition and the tab 8.4 pro cost like 300 EUROS . Thought the note 8 battery is much better than the gpad but if they are equal i see your point
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I think tab 4 series are scam.What is the difference then tab 3 ? They are almost same devices.
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I guess.. but the Tab 4 is quad core. but other than that, i wouldn't upgrade. But if I didn't have one yet, I would get the Tab 4.
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I guess.. but the Tab 4 is quad core. but other than that, i wouldn't upgrade. But if I didn't have one yet, I would get the Tab 4.
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I wouldn't, in fact I would stay as far as way from the Samsung Tab line of mid-tier tablets as possible. Their just not worth it, the previous model, the Tab 3 had a Exynos 4212, the Exynos 4210 was showcased in November of 2010 and then released in Q1 of 2011 with the Tab 7.7. The two models have almost identical performance models. The Tab 4 follows the same line of thinking by inserting the bare minium of what the current market will except. There is absolutly nothing, nothing, that makes the Tab 4 8 a tablet that one would want to own when compared to others. TouchWiz now takes up an abysimal 800MB of memory so the 1.5GB of RAM is halved for for apps, there is no Gorilla Glass, Samsung claims that their alternative is just as good but experience with these tablets suggest otherwise, the SnapDragon 5 CPU is no match for their other budget friendly models like the 600 which can found in the LG G Pad. Resolution is an appaling 1280 x 800, when every other Android Tablet manufacture is making their 8" models with at least a 1080P panel. Samsung finially dropped the price of the Tab 8 to a managable level, the previuos model was just so outrageously exspensive for the level of hardware that was offered. I still wouldn't buy one though, at any price, your compromising just to much to save a few bucks. Save your money and when you have enough buy an LG G Pad, Kindle HDX 8.9, the Samung Pro 8.4, upcoming Nexus 8, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo ThinkPad 8, Asus Vivo 8, etc. Just don't paint your self into a corner by buying the absolute bare minium like a Tab 4 8, or any other Tab 4 model. This is a perfect example of Samsung's logic, right now on Amazon, the Tab 4 10.1 is listed for 320 dollars where as the Tab Pro is 400, an 80 dollar difference, you would have to be a complete idiot not to go with the Pro. Who put's a 720P in a 10.1 inch display nowadays, in a 8" was hard enough top swallow.
Tab Pro 10.1
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...8&qid=1399064818&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+10.1
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...TF8&qid=1399064892&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+4+10.1
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I wouldn't, in fact I would stay as far as way from the Samsung Tab line of mid-tier tablets as possible. Their just not worth it, the previous model, the Tab 3 had a Exynos 4212, the Exynos 4210 was showcased in November of 2010 and then released in Q1 of 2011 with the Tab 7.7. The two models have almost identical performance models. The Tab 4 follows the same line of thinking by inserting the bare minium of what the current market will except. There is absolutly nothing, nothing, that makes the Tab 4 8 a tablet that one would want to own when compared to others. TouchWiz now takes up an abysimal 800MB of memory so the 1.5GB of RAM is halved for for apps, there is no Gorilla Glass, Samsung claims that their alternative is just as good but experience with these tablets suggest otherwise, the SnapDragon 5 CPU is no match for their other budget friendly models like the 600 which can found in the LG G Pad. Resolution is an appaling 1280 x 800, when every other Android Tablet manufacture is making their 8" models with at least a 1080P panel. Samsung finially dropped the price of the Tab 8 to a managable level, the previuos model was just so outrageously exspensive for the level of hardware that was offered. I still wouldn't buy one though, at any price, your compromising just to much to save a few bucks. Save your money and when you have enough buy an LG G Pad, Kindle HDX 8.9, the Samung Pro 8.4, upcoming Nexus 8, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo ThinkPad 8, Asus Vivo 8, etc. Just don't paint your self into a corner by buying the absolute bare minium like a Tab 4 8, or any other Tab 4 model. This is a perfect example of Samsung's logic, right now on Amazon, the Tab 4 10.1 is listed for 320 dollars where as the Tab Pro is 400, an 80 dollar difference, you would have to be a complete idiot not to go with the Pro. Who put's a 720P in a 10.1 inch display nowadays, in a 8" was hard enough top swallow.
Tab Pro 10.1
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...8&qid=1399064818&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+10.1
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...TF8&qid=1399064892&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+4+10.1
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I just bought a GPAD guys ,from what you told me i choose this one
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I just bought a GPAD guys ,from what you told me i choose this one
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Awesome, give us a small review when you get a chance.
also the tab 4 has higher screen resolution,
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Awesome, give us a small review when you get a chance.
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I will give a small review of my GPAD just to share my experience. I paid 240euros for this with a case with it lets go
9/10Screen:amazing colors and the best screen it terms of size I have work on,much better than nexus 7
9/10Build:reminds me iPad mini with a Samsung touch on it kinda stand in the middle
7/10Battery: not great not bad gives me like 7-8 hours on screen I'm ok with it
8/10Sound: the sound and the speakers are very loud
Overall I give it a 8.5/10 it's the most cool looking tablet I see,so fast in browsing or play 3d games ,I use it everyday and I haven't open my laptop the last 2 days. I wish u bought this before nexus 7 2013 ,between those GPad is miles away.
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I will give a small review of my GPAD just to share my experience. I paid 240euros for this with a case with it lets go
9/10Screen:amazing colors and the best screen it terms of size I have work on,much better than nexus 7
9/10Build:reminds me iPad mini with a Samsung touch on it kinda stand in the middle
7/10Battery: not great not bad gives me like 7-8 hours on screen I'm ok with it
8/10Sound: the sound and the speakers are very loud
Overall I give it a 8.5/10 it's the most cool looking tablet I see,so fast in browsing or play 3d games ,I use it everyday and I haven't open my laptop the last 2 days. I wish u bought this before nexus 7 2013 ,between those GPad is miles away.
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Great news I knew you would like it. The design is pretty cool, love the metal backing with the white body, very modern looking. Nothing beats the Qualcomm CPU's in an Android tablet, especially the 600 and 800 series. The Tab 3 8 just doesn't compare and I didn't want you making a mistake by buying one. I know the fellows here swear by them but for the price and the massive difference in speed and specs the LG is just a better buy all way around. It's such a neat feeling when you have so much power in such a small device. There isn't a game in the Play Store that the LG can't run like butter. You should also really think about buying a Miracast dongle or box for your TV, playing games and watching Movies or TV through the LG connected to a 1080P TV or monitor is simply fantastic. I recommend you installing ES File Manager, it's one of the best file managers around, it allows you to access all of you Cloud storage, local servers and other computers on your network from one app, it also contains a built in unzip and unrar function.
Anyway I'm glad you like it, check out the LG G Pad forum here, unlike the Tab 3 forum the LG G Pad Forum is very active and they have tons of custom ROMS, developers love the LG and it shows by the amount of ROMS available.
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also the tab 4 has higher screen resolution,
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Nope, it's still stuck at 1280 x 800.
calden74 said:
I wouldn't, in fact I would stay as far as way from the Samsung Tab line of mid-tier tablets as possible. Their just not worth it, the previous model, the Tab 3 had a Exynos 4212, the Exynos 4210 was showcased in November of 2010 and then released in Q1 of 2011 with the Tab 7.7. The two models have almost identical performance models. The Tab 4 follows the same line of thinking by inserting the bare minium of what the current market will except. There is absolutly nothing, nothing, that makes the Tab 4 8 a tablet that one would want to own when compared to others. TouchWiz now takes up an abysimal 800MB of memory so the 1.5GB of RAM is halved for for apps, there is no Gorilla Glass, Samsung claims that their alternative is just as good but experience with these tablets suggest otherwise, the SnapDragon 5 CPU is no match for their other budget friendly models like the 600 which can found in the LG G Pad. Resolution is an appaling 1280 x 800, when every other Android Tablet manufacture is making their 8" models with at least a 1080P panel. Samsung finially dropped the price of the Tab 8 to a managable level, the previuos model was just so outrageously exspensive for the level of hardware that was offered. I still wouldn't buy one though, at any price, your compromising just to much to save a few bucks. Save your money and when you have enough buy an LG G Pad, Kindle HDX 8.9, the Samung Pro 8.4, upcoming Nexus 8, Dell Venue 8 Pro, Lenovo ThinkPad 8, Asus Vivo 8, etc. Just don't paint your self into a corner by buying the absolute bare minium like a Tab 4 8, or any other Tab 4 model. This is a perfect example of Samsung's logic, right now on Amazon, the Tab 4 10.1 is listed for 320 dollars where as the Tab Pro is 400, an 80 dollar difference, you would have to be a complete idiot not to go with the Pro. Who put's a 720P in a 10.1 inch display nowadays, in a 8" was hard enough top swallow.
Tab Pro 10.1
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...8&qid=1399064818&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+10.1
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...TF8&qid=1399064892&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+4+10.1
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if money is an issue, then I would. Specially if you can find it cheap. But if not, I go Pro 8.4
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if money is an issue, then I would. Specially if you can find it cheap. But if not, I go Pro 8.4
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I was thinking too for the tab pro 8.4 but it was 60 euros more and the first models of the line always has some bugs or problems that the second lines doesn't so I had to wait for the seconds lines to come out. Plus I heard the battery is not strong at all so I pick the cheaper Gpad
Am hoping this is not a DUP post,
With the details recently been released, the note 5 has no micro SD storage.
Am wondering what you fellow note users are considering as the best upgrade?
I love the note series, I love the size an the power of the device.
With no additional storage, this is a deal breaker for me.
My upgrade is due in a couple of months.
Just interested on your thoughts on possible alternative devices you may be considering.
I don't know of the S series of Samsung is enough of a replacement.
The note 3, may be the last of the Samsung series for me.
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Believe me, there is NO alternative of Note series. When a person gets used with Note series nothing can impress or make them happy any more.
So you either get the Note 5 or stick with your Note 3, or maybe get a Note 4, it's still a great phone.
We don't have any contract stuffs here but I like to update every one year or so, and I am really confused too. Was hellbent that Note 5 would be my upgrade, but now after seeing it I am doubtful that I will upgrade to it. I mean no SD card is no big deal for me, nor is the non-removable battery, but same screen size and smaller battery capacity is weird! But maybe after a couple of months or so I will eventually end up with buying it, simple because there is no device in this planet which could come even remotely close to a Note
What the heck is Sony and HTC doing for all this long for God's sake!
I am due for upgrade...but no SD card ....deal breaker....as I bring media on the road....maybe going for huawei p8 Max....a giant 6.8inch pH.
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I'm glad to see samsung moving to Li-Po from Li-Ion.
But removing the Micro SD slot is stupid, what where they thinking.
Also lack of usb3.
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there is note 5 thread by the way note edge is so much better than s6 edge + note 4 more better than note 4
I would not upgrade to the Note 4, I don't see this as a viable upgrade.
I may have to bite the bullet, find a device with the same size screen an similar hardware specs.
Its just going to be a challenge to drop the S pen.
The edge was a close competitor, need to go onto a store to have a play an feel.
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I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 off of Craigs, if I can find one for "reasonable." Then wait and see if Samsung sees the error of its ways next year for the next Note. Also, a Samsung rep pointed out to me that there's a Mophie case for the S6 that the phone connects to when you put it in. The case has a slot for a microSD card and, from what I understand, an extended battery. They may make one for the Note 5. No telling how big and heavy that would be.
I talked to a tech at the Sprint store, as I was wondering how you get out of a boot loop, should one happen. Apparently for the S6, there's some key combination that's supposed to work like a battery pull. I assume they have something like that for the Note 5.
I think I'll wait to see what people are saying before I decide for sure what to do. Both developers, techs and users. They did tell me at the Sprint store they will have the Note 5 for Samsung's announced date: August 21st. They are already receiving accessories for the phone.
The Note 5 isn't being released in Europe, at any rate.
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
Though frankly, I'm expecting a Note 5+ around March/April. Samsung amended their statement pretty quickly to "Not releasing it in europe this year, will release when individual markets provide a favourable moment".
The EU/International variant of the Note has always been the Snapdragon model, due to its strength and its more powerful GPU. Exynos models have always been lower-market models. The current Snapdragon CPU had too many issues, and the 820 wasn't ready in time for a pre-iPhone release. Given that they released an S6 Edge+ alongside the Note 5 makes me suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7.
Personally I'm sticking with my Note 3. If it dies, Note 4 will be its replacement. But I will A, never buy a device without a MicroSD, B, never buy a device with an Exynos, and C, live in Europe.
ShadowLea said:
The Note 5 isn't being released in Europe, at any rate.
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
Though frankly, I'm expecting a Note 5+ around March/April. Samsung amended their statement pretty quickly to "Not releasing it in europe this year, will release when individual markets provide a favourable moment".
The EU/International variant of the Note has always been the Snapdragon model, due to its strength and its more powerful GPU. Exynos models have always been lower-market models. The current Snapdragon CPU had too many issues, and the 820 wasn't ready in time for a pre-iPhone release. Given that they released an S6 Edge+ alongside the Note 5 makes me suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7.
Personally I'm sticking with my Note 3. If it dies, Note 4 will be its replacement. But I will A, never buy a device without a MicroSD, B, never buy a device with an Exynos, and C, live in Europe.
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Largely i´ll have to agree. On the MSD-slot though: If we get a 128 GB option i´d probably surrender. If i understand the issue correctly, the on-board ram is much faster. The current N5 setup: Not a chance. One thing i don´t completely understand: Every time we get a new phone on the market with sd-slot, the on-board ram is always on the small side. The best i´ve seen so far was 32 Gigs. Is it just to keep retail prices down? It almost feels like a "Holy cow". To me this sounds like a situation where we could actually have our cookie and eat it too (Provided of course we were willing to pay for it
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Elo
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Largely i´ll have to agree. On the MSD-slot though: If we get a 128 GB option i´d probably surrender. If i understand the issue correctly, the on-board ram is much faster. The current N5 setup: Not a chance. One thing i don´t completely understand: Every time we get a new phone on the market with sd-slot, the on-board ram is always on the small side. The best i´ve seen so far was 32 Gigs. Is it just to keep retail prices down? It almost feels like a "Holy cow". To me this sounds like a situation where we could actually have our cookie and eat it too (Provided of course we were willing to pay for it
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Elo
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You're spot on about keeping the retail prices down. It's mainly because most people aren't paying 100 quid for 32GB extra when you can get a 128GB MicroSD for 66 quid. Consumers aren't that stupid. (Well, most of them aren't.)
I mean, take the Note 4. €599 for the 32GB model, + €66 for a 128GB MicroSD = €665. The 64GB model costs €699. If you buy the first, that leaves you €34 to spend on a really nice case, screenprotector or extra battery. Or two 64GB MicroSD's. (MediaMarkt sold a pack of 2x64GB+adapters for €32 last week.)
You'd have to be pretty bonkers to consider the 64GB edition that way. (I did consider it, and yes, I'm officially mad as a hatter. But unfortunately they never actually produced the 64GB edition of the Note 3.) A 128GB edition would cost over 1000 euros, which would scare people off.
Not to mention, if you keep your apps internal, and your media external (which is safest in the event of a hardware defect, freeze, crash or drop, too), 32GB is more than sufficient. I have 523 apps, of which over 100 games, and still 5GB free internal space.
And then there's MTP. Transferring an average 1080p film of 25GB takes 5 minutes via a MicroSD adapter. It takes 3 hours over MTP, and craps out halfway because the protocol crashes.
The real issue is that a lot of people are idiots. Yes, the onboard storage is faster in its new format. That's entirely true. Aparently, a MicroSD slows things down when apps are put on them.
Which is the problem: people have forgotten that MicroSD's are for MEDIA. It is entirely irrelevant how fast the internal memory is compared to the MicroSD. That film isn't going to play any faster than 25fps. (Rant aimed at the people who use that as an argument. Not at you xD)
And Samsung has forgotten that the average 1080p film is 25GB. How, exactly, do they suggest I put that on a 32GB device that is already housing 8GB worth of bloatware?
I have two 128GB MicroSD's filled to the brim with films, series, comics, magazines and books that I swap around as I need them. Even a 256GB device would not be sufficient for my needs. Overkill? Maybe. I have to travel on public transport for 6 hours a day, 5.5 of which are in a mobile deadzone. (So no cloud, if that was even useful with maximum data subscriptions of 12GB to begin with. That's half a film.)
ShadowLea said:
Well, if you can settle for not having AMOLED and not having an Spen, the upcoming LG G4 Pro is the device the Note 5 should have been. Snapdragon 820, 5.8" 2K, 4GB RAM, MicroSD, IR blaster, FM Radio, removable battery. (not confirmed specs, but the rumours are pretty solid.)
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LOL! An LG compared with any Samsung is nothing but a joke, utter joke. Sorry if some LG fanboy gets butthurt here, but speaking from a purely personal experience with G3, and the Nexus 5 too.
Biggest shame a Note device could have by being compared with some hotchpotch LG!
devilsdouble said:
LOL! An LG compared with any Samsung is nothing but a joke, utter joke. Sorry if some LG fanboy gets butthurt here, but speaking from a purely personal experience with G3, and the Nexus 5 too.
Biggest shame a Note device could have by being compared with some hotchpotch LG!
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Oh I quite agree. The G4 barely lasts 2 hours with the screen on, 6 with the screen off. Sure, it has a fancy camera, but if I want to take fancy pictures, I'll bring my EOS 70D.
I was just suggesting options. In terms of pure technical specs, the G4 Pro looks to be everything we'd hoped the Note 5 would be. The fact that LG usually screws up their phones (Though nowhere near as bad as HTC seems to be doing these days) has little to do with the core specs.
What's your opinion of Motorola's Nexus 6? Now that Android natively supports MicroSD, and the N6 had an AMOLED screen, the next Nexus may very well be a serious contender.
@ShadowLea
Have you tried the ZE551ML ZenFone 2?
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/
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celderic said:
@ShadowLea
Have you tried the ZE551ML ZenFone 2?
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/
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Haven't had the chance to play with it yet, sadly. They're pretty much impossible to come by in the Netherlands.
Also, I'm a little hesitant when it comes to mobile devices from Asus after the I/O issues that plagued every Transformer(Including my TF700T) for years. (in terms of laptops there's none better, don't get me wrong.)
Note 5 = best screen + best camera in a premium device + spen and good battery life and wireless charging endless list of sensors etc etc
Seriously people still b**ching about it ???
As for the LG G4, its n aweaome phone
the battery is better than my note 3 and it got amazing camera screen and speed. Why trolling ??? 4 hours standby = faulty battery, I can easily get 4 hours screen on with continuous gaming, Web surfing video playback and chatting ..... it's my travelling phone mostly cuz of the battery and camera.
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Oh I quite agree. The G4 barely lasts 2 hours with the screen on, 6 with the screen off. Sure, it has a fancy camera, but if I want to take fancy pictures, I'll bring my EOS 70D.
I was just suggesting options. In terms of pure technical specs, the G4 Pro looks to be everything we'd hoped the Note 5 would be. The fact that LG usually screws up their phones (Though nowhere near as bad as HTC seems to be doing these days) has little to do with the core specs.
What's your opinion of Motorola's Nexus 6? Now that Android natively supports MicroSD, and the N6 had an AMOLED screen, the next Nexus may very well be a serious contender.
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I like Motorola actually, but the Moto X 2013 I used had an awful display, I mean I don't know how poor a display could be! So that gives me some scary thing when its about Motorola, but still Nexus 6 is a good phone.
AMOLED panel doesn't matter really. I need to know which generation AMOLED panel it is, the older AMOLED panels are nowhere near as good as current generations' S-AMOLED panels. Also how is the reception thing going on with Motorola? I remember not getting reception in places with my X 2013 where I receive more than decent reception with other phones, that's very serious for me.
Damn if the Note 5 came out with a display around 5.9" I would be all over it. I don't care about the external SD thing at all, and I hope regardless of its smaller capacity battery it will still be better than Note 3 in endurance.
vodovodo said:
As for the LG G4, its n aweaome phone
the battery is better than my note 3 and it got amazing camera screen and speed. Why trolling ??? 4 hours standby = faulty battery, I can easily get 4 hours screen on with continuous gaming, Web surfing video playback and chatting ..... it's my travelling phone mostly cuz of the battery and camera.
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Yeah awesome phone when compared with the likes of OnePlus One or some Xiaomi nonsense, its not even in the same league with any Samsung flagship for God's sake! Brilliant display? Yeah sure, when 8000+ Kelvins is counted as brilliant, it sure the heck is!
The Note 5 was a complete let-down. The three things it removed are the things I used/appreciated most:
- IR blaster
- Removable battery
- Expandable memory
So, after four generations of Note owning (I bought the Note 1 a week after it launched), I will be leaving Sammy.
If you slapped down a Note 4 and a Note 5 on the table right in front of me right now, I'd pay more money for the Note 4.
Here's hoping they revert to their former prestige. Until then, LG Pro 4? I think I have to.
If the Note 5 has OTG support it's oke but clouddrives like Mega can replace SD for most of the time.
The almost no-go to the Note 5 for me is the glass backside. It really anoys me that samsung didn't continue the fake leather backside. I really love it compair to a glass. Now I really need a case.
Unfortunally I have to import the Note 5 because it will not be available in Europe(at least not in the first period).
Please sign the appeal to bring the Note 5 to Europe:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2015/08/14/appeal-to-bring-samsung-galaxy-note-5-to-europe-note5foreurope/
Tombias said:
If the Note 5 has OTG support it's oke but clouddrives like Mega can replace SD for most of the time.
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Oh yes, that works so well...
This is my average Internet speed the 6 hours on public transport when I need the films on my MicroSD the most:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Do please tell me how I am supposed to stream 1080p films from the cloud over that.