Database Info

¤¤¤ Captivate Fastest Benchmark Android vs. all others - Click here to see why ¤¤¤

Its all here: http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/
There is much to expect from this incredible device, as we all know the "Hummingbird S5PC110" CPU is exclusive to Samsung so the crown will be hard to take away from them at least for now.
Its already rooted and we all know the capabilities it has, here's hoping for the best to all who own and are OTA updating their beasts as well.

...until november/december when they release the new hummingbird.
Even so, the fastest processor in the world doesnt mean anything if other things do not work properly. ie GPS not working properly, bugs in the UI, ect.

iceman4357 said:
...until november/december when they release the new hummingbird.
Even so, the fastest processor in the world doesnt mean anything if other things do not work properly. ie GPS not working properly, bugs in the UI, ect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True but the OTA update should fix some issues, especially the GPS one.
Time will tell and Samsung should really be looking into these problems, many first time adopters are using their Galaxy S line of phones and will remember the support they received from them.
Luckily the Dev. section always has innovative minds that have fixes as well in case they don't create them however but thats not an excuse for Samsung to slack off.

iceman4357 said:
...until november/december when they release the new hummingbird.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
"Qualcomm announced Wednesday that while still on track to ship the 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon processor this year to manufacturers, the speedy chip will not be in devices on the market until the last part of 2011. They however did say that the 1.2GHz chipset would be shipping in consumer devices in less than 6 months."

legend221 said:
"Qualcomm announced Wednesday that while still on track to ship the 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon processor this year to manufacturers, the speedy chip will not be in devices on the market until the last part of 2011. They however did say that the 1.2GHz chipset would be shipping in consumer devices in less than 6 months."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Meh...2011 shall bring much better processors than that qualcomm:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/07/samsungs-orion-is-the-1ghz-dual-core-arm-cortex-a9-weve-all-be/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/23/marvell-unveils-1-5ghz-triple-core-application-processor-all-cu/

Some more details about Samsung Orion (successor to Hummingbird) is found here:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...ion-samsungs-implementation-of-arm-cortex-a9/
Some interesting info about its GPU. Also gives you a bit of info on why Cortex A9 is so cool.

legend221 said:
"Qualcomm announced Wednesday that while still on track to ship the 1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon processor this year to manufacturers, the speedy chip will not be in devices on the market until the last part of 2011. They however did say that the 1.2GHz chipset would be shipping in consumer devices in less than 6 months."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem with this is that it will probably have the same initial problems that the present Captivate has. I am wondering when the Android 2.2 update will be out from AT&T. And will it have different, but just as irritating problems that 2.1 has after being worked on by AT&T?
This is really a pain, if I think about it. Why does AT&T have to mess it up every time?
Dickr

legend221 said:
True but the OTA update should fix some issues, especially the GPS one.
Time will tell and Samsung should really be looking into these problems, many first time adopters are using their Galaxy S line of phones and will remember the support they received from them.
Luckily the Dev. section always has innovative minds that have fixes as well in case they don't create them however but thats not an excuse for Samsung to slack off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, the OTA update was NOT a GPS fix. Look at the official release notes of the OTA update.... not a single word about a GPS fix.

wrayrb said:
The problem with this is that it will probably have the same initial problems that the present Captivate has. I am wondering when the Android 2.2 update will be out from AT&T. And will it have different, but just as irritating problems that 2.1 has after being worked on by AT&T?
This is really a pain, if I think about it. Why does AT&T have to mess it up every time?
Dickr
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. I dont understand why they mess with every phone. I dont really see that many people using all the useless crap they put on there.
@ Legend- There is no GPS fix yet. Honestly I dont understand how the GPS was not fixed before release. The developer phones would have the same issues, and I would want to fix something major on a brand new product I was trying to sell. To me it just makes the company look stupid.

Even though a GPS fix wasn't listed in the release notes, there was one.
Had mine a week, completely stock and couldn't get a gps lock at all, did the update on Saturday and now I get one in seconds.

Zman28SS said:
Even though a GPS fix wasn't listed in the release notes, there was one.
Had mine a week, completely stock and couldn't get a gps lock at all, did the update on Saturday and now I get one in seconds.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is turn by turn voice navigation working now in Google Maps?

legend221 said:
Is turn by turn voice navigation working now in Google Maps?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's working in Froyo for me - wasn't working with either of the official releases prior to the leaked 2.2 though - that's just my personal experience, I'm hearing a lot of different stories about which update fixed it or did not fix it.

legend.. Your relying on Quadrant scores, pushed up by the EXT2/4 fix? REALLY?

legend221 said:
"They however did say that the 1.2GHz chipset would be shipping in consumer devices in less than 6 months."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We already have a 1.2 ghz processor Overclocked and undervolted sure, but my wife hasn't had any problems yet.

max_warheads said:
legend.. Your relying on Quadrant scores, pushed up by the EXT2/4 fix? REALLY?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats not my website, Ive bumped into it one day and I thought it was a great idea.

Lee1733 said:
It's working in Froyo for me - wasn't working with either of the official releases prior to the leaked 2.2 though - that's just my personal experience, I'm hearing a lot of different stories about which update fixed it or did not fix it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow, I'm actually contemplating getting this phone once again if this is indeed fixed.
Thanks for confirming.

GT-9505 with Exynos Octa and LTE and some tidbits...

Going through the kernel sources, it's blatantly obvious that they have developed a phone with these specs.
The 9500 is the ja3g and its variants are
ja3gduos_chn_ctc / GT-I959 / China Telecommunications Coorporation
ja3gduos_chn_cu / GT-I9502 / China Unicom.
That's fine and dandy, however the conspiracy theories begin with the LTE versions:
The 9505 also has an Exynos variant as named as jalte and its derivatives are
jalteskt / SHV-E300S
jaltektt / SHV-E300K
jaltelgt / SHV-E300L
jaltedcm / ???
First three for the Korean market, and the latter Japan DoCoMo.
The interessting tidbit about the last four is that they're sourced / defined as derivatives of jalte / GT-9505 which is defined as a TARGET_LOCALE_EUR device.
Now over in the Qualcomm universe of devices, we have the jf* boards:
jf_eur, jf_att, jf_can, jf_cmcc, jf_cri, jf_dcm, jf_ktt, jf_lgt, jf_skt, jf_skt, jf_spr, jf_tmo, jf_vzw.
Now it's pretty obvious that there are duplicate devices for both the bolded markets, again the European, Korean, and Japanese variants.
I'm not claiming anything here; the above may either point out that Samsung will in the future have or replace the Qualcomm devices back with Exynos devices, or it may mean that the source code is older and displays Samsung's device line-up before they switched to Qualcomm. The question is, if they'll continue to source Qualcomm devices for the markets which got them from the beginning.
In either case, it just seems that the S4 is a massive failure for Samsung in terms of a product launch, they released it too early, and due to the apparent manufacturing issues, a big clusterfuçk has emerged in the device lineup in the last minute.

I'm glad they decided to use Qualcomm. It will have a much better community support.
Releasing all devices with Exynos would be a failure IMO for those that want to customize it.

AndreiLux said:
I'm not claiming anything here; the above may either point out that Samsung will in the future have or replace the Qualcomm devices back with Exynos devices, or it may mean that the source code is older and displays Samsung's device line-up before they switched to Qualcomm. The question is, if they'll continue to source Qualcomm devices for the markets which got them from the beginning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with this and think that at some point in the SGS4's lifetime there will be a Octa/RF360 LTE variant.
In either case, it just seems that the S4 is a massive failure for Samsung in terms of a product launch, they released it too early, and due to the apparent manufacturing issues, a big clusterfuçk has emerged in the device lineup in the last minute.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because there's code in the kernel that point to models that could have been produced and aren't?

BarryH_GEG said:
Because there's code in the kernel that point to models that could have been produced and aren't?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you trying to make a snarky comment again?
Yes, because of that; you don't develop a product and suddenly throw away millions in investment to not use that and then decide to throw free cash at your biggest competitor for the hell of it.
The whole launch just smells of immatureness of the product that was changed in the last minute. The LCD vs AMOLED debacle is also something to consider: initial firmwares were still using the white/bright colour schemes and only as reported, new updated firmwares finally changed that back to black / dark scheme typical of AMOLEDs. This gives weight to the reports that they were almost releasing the device with an LCD screen.
They didn't mention a single word about the CPU during the official launch for a single reason: shame.

AndreiLux said:
Are you trying to make a snarky comment again?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually, no. And I thanked your original post.
Yes, because of that; you don't develop a product and suddenly throw away millions in investment to not use that and then decide to throw free cash at your biggest competitor for the hell of it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll give you an example of what I've seen from the business side (I'm not a programmer). There are times when the business group hasn't made final determinations about h/w while s/w coding is still preceding. The programmers will include code for multiple options and then either comment out what's not used or just leave it dormant. In the cases I've been party to the code could have been used but the fact it wasn't doesn't indicate some strategic mistake, just that of multiple options coded only one was pursued. Software decisions are usually more flexible than h/w ones.

BarryH_GEG said:
Software decisions are usually more flexible than h/w ones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's fine and valid in the software universe, but not in terms of software that runs hardware (notice I'm not saying "on hardware", I literally mean it runs the hardware) one part goes hand in hand with the other, else you're programming blindly.
They actually have these devices working and developed, just not mass-produced for the public.

I'm quite impressed they've managed to make the jump to 28nm so quickly really. So it doesn't surprise me that there's not that many Exynos chips floating around and won't be for a few months.
If anyone keeps up on graphics cards, you'll know why I'm impressed -- TSMC are pretty hilarious when it comes to shipping silicone on time
And given the above subject, NVidia has been guilty of far more "soft launches" than Samsung is pulling here (eg, BARELY ANY product out in the wild for months after launch).
Whether or not you can call it a failure I guess depends on how much money Samsung will "lose" from shipping the Krait units. Would it have been better to delay the S4 4-6 months so they could ship 100% Exynos? I have no idea here, but all I know is I'm expecting the Note III in 4-6 months, not the S4...

BarryH_GEG said:
I agree with this and think that at some point in the SGS4's lifetime there will be a Octa/RF360 LTE variant.
....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but when it does will be later, our eyes will be looking at other devices and to first S6 rumors specs.
For those like me who want to move to S4 has to live with what we have today.

The local buzz for japan (based on regulatory filings) seems to indicate SC-04E model designation, Qualcomm hardware (a major but welcome turnaround), for Japan/Docomo.
Perhaps we'll see a later (mid-fiscal-year) introduction of an Exynos version identically specced to the korean Exynos/LTE version like they did with the S3 alpha.

AndreiLux said:
Going through the kernel sources, it's blatantly obvious that they have developed a phone with these specs.
I'm not claiming anything here; the above may either point out that Samsung will in the future have or replace the Qualcomm devices back with Exynos devices, or it may mean that the source code is older and displays Samsung's device line-up before they switched to Qualcomm. The question is, if they'll continue to source Qualcomm devices for the markets which got them from the beginning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If that turns out to be the case that they may replace the Qualcomm variants with Exynos, then I'm glad I got my Snapdragon variant before they do.

evildave_666 said:
The local buzz for japan (based on regulatory filings) seems to indicate SC-04E model designation, Qualcomm hardware (a major but welcome turnaround), for Japan/Docomo.
Perhaps we'll see a later (mid-fiscal-year) introduction of an Exynos version identically specced to the korean Exynos/LTE version like they did with the S3 alpha.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^ I doubt they will do that... And if they do probably only be out in Korea or japan because other Carriers wont bother with it, the reason why the carriers went for the 4G variant of the S3 I9305 is because the S3 didnt have 4G.
And the countries that chose the I9500 S4 dont really have a good 4G network and the ones that chose the I9505 do have a 4G network, The countries with a good 4g network did not choose the I9500 because of the fact they cant market it as being 4G and probably wont make as much sales. The real world consumer (Other then XDA) only cares for the Number 4 after the S ... And 4G is a bonus... If samsung releases another variant and markets it to the carriers as being S4 Octa + 4G, I really doubt the carriers will waste their money as the consumers will basically say "I have the S4 and it is 4G"... They wont understand what Octa is. Plus it would have to be a better Octa version than it is now because in real time usage you couldn't tell any difference with the I9505 and I9500... Only real clear difference is that the I9500 is alittle higher is some benchmarks. But who outside of the community cares about benchmarks.
1 year from now the S5 will be out I think they will concentrate on that

btemtd said:
^^ I doubt they will do that...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Past history has shown otherwise. Its EXACTLY what was done with the S3 in this market. SC-06D was almost exactly like the AT&T carrier hardware (Qualcomm) and 6 months later same carrier introduced the SC-03E Exynos model.

evildave_666 said:
Past history has shown otherwise. Its EXACTLY what was done with the S3 in this market. SC-06D was almost exactly like the AT&T carrier hardware (Qualcomm) and 6 months later same carrier introduced the SC-03E Exynos model.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Like I said IF they do it I recon it would only be in japan or korea. I cannot see my country (australia) or many other countries alike taking up the exact same phone and re-advertising it as an exynos... The normal consumer wont have a clue what they are talking about..They may change stock supplies but not market it at all so if someone decides to buy an S4 in 5-6 months it will automatically be shipped as Exynos/LTE, this maybe possible if the only reason samsung went with qualcomm was low stock issues and they needed to meet stock demand by a certain date to make the S4 Launch date happen.. But again realtime performance will be the same.
On the other hand if they do decide to make an update and market it as an update you would like to think it will be more then just a cpu change or slight Over clock .. hopefully its other updates that will see a difference in real time performance because at the moment real time performance is practically identical in the current S4 variants, Exynos & Snapdragon...

Pure to get N

https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!

While I would like to assume that the Moto x pure edition will get it, this article seems to be an opinion piece with little or no supporting info other than his ramblings and definitely nothing from Lenovo/Moto.
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk

Nice. Another garbage site with no credible info. I love how in their comments this "Motorola" author is answering questions on wether or not so and so device will get Nougat, like they're 100% sure.

Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.

aybarrap1 said:
Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The g4s are garbage and I spoke to a rep today and he told me to stay away from them haha a Lenovo rep said this! Bought one yesterday and the screen was all glitchy took it back today traded it out and paid the difference for the plus and same thing before even leaving the parking lot. Finally got pissed and said screw it and got a moto x pure style again. Loved this phone the first time I had it and love it now! Guernetee it gets nuoget and if it dosent.. well.. there will ALWAYS be Roms haha lol. But what I was trying to get at with the g4 phones is that's more than likely the reason they "might" get it.. I'd doubt it though honestly. Lenovo ruined the Motorola line. Ya the z is bad ass but come on man. The pure style was the best phone they had made in YEARS! Besides the Nexus 6. I'm super disappointed in the joke Lenovo has made!

Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...

donrojo said:
Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?

aybarrap1 said:
Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?

donrojo said:
My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.

aybarrap1 said:
Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.

aybarrap1 said:
There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh well, i think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that the Z will be upgraded after MXPE. I actually think once the Z will be available worldwide it will get the N update to boost sales. I'm only saying that it would be difficult to convince people to buy an expensive phone unless they have a guarantee it will be a long investment. Updating quickly the XPE should give that guarantee that even Z will be maintained after its one year anniversary.

skinnykinney said:
https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That motog3 site is just an pile of advertisements and SEO bait. It's not legit.
After dealing with Moto/Lenovo support a few times, my impression is that Lenovo is struggling to appear like they know what they're doing. Their repair program is musical chairs, tech support doesn't know what's going on, and they haven't been able to maintain the software. Even if they've outsourced Nougat, I doubt they've purchased any followup bug fixes.

I just saw that CM14 7.0 dropped for the Android One, Oneplus 3 and a few others today. That should help things along a bit. Once it exists, as it now does, it usually makes it's way to other devices pretty quickly. :fingers-crossed:

i want ask ... i don't know if my question is stupid or not LooL
if lenovo dont include our MOTO X phone to update list
can the Rom developer here make custom ROM with N Update? or they need something from lenovo (like permission or code) ?

Zekial said:
I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But you should believe @Zekial When Moto, was a Google Company, and not official bought by lenovo, they update their smartphones very fast, Nexus 5 receive Lollipop after Moto X . Now Moto sucks, only this week in germany they update their phones to 6.0.1 (security update from may ).
Pure will be updated for N, when is the problem, could be this year or in the next.

Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html

dammit, and i just rooted my phone finally today.

AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think that article tells us anything we don't already know. I read it yesterday and it just says "should" and "probably" with no sources.

AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just another fluff article... zero information, just speculation and opinion.

The "news" now on neurigedget... Hmm
not officially confirmed
http://neurogadget.net/2016/09/24/m...tedly-get-android-nougat-update-october/40315
Meanwhile, the Moto X Play, Moto X Style, and Moto X Force, will receive the update on November.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Android 9 - not soon

First hello to everyone,
I was wondering if this time will be the same as it was with G6 so I asked support and they answerd this
I qoute
Good afternoon Alen,*
Thank you for your query regarding your LG G7;*
I have had a look into this for you and sadly as we are an in warranty repair centre this is not something that we get advance notice on. As LG handsets only got Android 8 a few months ago I am guessing that this would be at some point in the early quarter of next year.*
Once the android version is created it then has to go to the individual manufacturers who then test for compatibility and will rework anything which causes issues and then the testing on handsets begins and I am led to believe that this is a length process.*
The likely hood is that the update will be on the handsets before we even know that it has been released.*
So when it comes to update, even with "lg's new update center" thing will be the same.
And to be clear i don't hate or something, I am okey with my device preformances this is more discussion type post cuz as i remember lg said that this new center sill get us update faster and clearly thats not the case
Sorry for typos

There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.

xeizo said:
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I could not agree more to this. Software upgrades are a nice thing if they take the time to run it stable. I prefer stable software and better security above that. Thats why i left Sony for one reason tru unstable releases that took long time to fix or not and a phone that loose hes full functuality with crashes or connection problems at most important times is a pain.Untill now my G6 did fine and my G7.Be patient and be happy your G7 is a trusty companion on the way.
Sent from my LM-G710 using XDA Labs

This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.

xeizo said:
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good

Support rarely if ever gets any info about things like software releases up until they actually come out. Until LG actually makes a statement it is best to just be patient.

yankeesfan714 said:
The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even my G7+ (India Variant) is on june security patch. At least security updates have to be released if not OS updates. Every money transfer is don't online nowadays, LG should take it seriously. Also there is still no 4k 60 fps update that rest of the world got.

Android P on the G7? Don't hold your breath. At the earliest, I'd say March of 2019. More realistically is May/June however. LG is quite terrible with Android updates.

8bitbang said:
This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup

fernando sor said:
Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen

8bitbang said:
Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah unfortunately I was stuck with tmobile. I agree the pixel is the way to go.

The only issue I have with the Pixel is Google using it to push there cloud storage. That's why they won't put SD card slots on them. And I'm sorry but despite the fact it's 2018 we are still not a 100% connected world, not to mention at least in the US almost every carrier has data limits. Plus there are some that don't want to put everything they own up in the cloud. SD card storage is really the only reason I won't buy a Pixel.
And don't even mention USB-c adapters, I shouldn't have to carry around extra crap for more storage!
Void4ever

Apple have good products but not good for 1000 $ or more. They do update older models but we all know that they also made older phones go slower and there was problems with battery drain ect.
I am from Bosnia so here Iphones are really expensive and i mean it. Also Pixel is just a little bit cheaper.
I really like LG phones, after my HTC I had G4 G5 G6 and now G7. If I hadnt drop my G6 and brooke it I wouldnt even go to G7.
For the money you get good quality phone, nice specs and I dont mind ux cuz i am not fan of that rounded look on stock android.
I went and took Huawei p20 after my g6 and I had it for a day then returned it give more money and bought G7 cuz p20 is like toy compared to g7.
And even updates are not that big of a deal for me but what i mind is that they promised that big update center for faster updates and now not that we wont get android 9 for a while but as you guys said we are still on july patch.
I know that its better to wait for stable versions but they could be more efficiant with patches.
Sorry for the typos

sooner then u think
Take a look

J0SH1X said:
Take a look
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.

LookedPath said:
Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing

J0SH1X said:
thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.

LookedPath said:
If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thx buddy

J0SH1X said:
Take a look
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, how did u installed this custom rom?

Anyway, official Android Pie looks to be way forward from now. LG V40 was just released, with Android 8.1 .....
On the bright side, for those with smart watches using Google Wear so was Wear OS 2.0 just released and it is entirely based on 8.0 Oreo. I suppose handsets with Android 8.0 will have a more bug free experience using those watches.

[EOL]PREVIEW]Petition for Android 11 update for S9+, S9 and Note9

Postponed due to a similar petition was launched (long ago)
Sign the Petition
Give Android 11 / OneUI 3.0 to Galaxy Note9 / S9(+) phones.
www.change.org

Yea get rid of it. People have been making these things for years. It's useless. It's cause so much issues on xda people arguing your petition don't mean jack to them

TheMadScientist said:
Yea get rid of it. People have been making these things for years. It's useless. It's cause so much issues on xda people arguing your petition don't mean jack to them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But samsung broke curse for S10 this is due to accumulating demand, i am doing this for s50 for 4 system updates

jjgvv said:
But samsung broke curse for S10 this is due to accumulating demand, i am doing this for s50 for 4 system updates
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea thats why I'm on a note 10 f ds. All my American friends whine about having locked bootloader and do the same thing petition after petition and not gone nowhere. That why I buy unlocked bl now so I don't deal with it

As I said in an other thread we will recive android 11 through the note 10 lite port. they share the same exynos processor.
so it will not be an official release but it's better than nothing.
For the snapdragon variant i don't think they will get anything

The petition should be about the Samsung S9 Plus snapdragon variant getting the oem unlocked
We are getting one UI 2.5 the next month in October anyway so so after wireless dex there is nothing important coming

mhmedahmed1996 said:
The petition should be about the Samsung S9 Plus snapdragon variant getting the oem unlocked
We are getting one UI 2.5 the next month in October anyway so so after wireless dex there is nothing important coming
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like this idea

mhmedahmed1996 said:
The petition should be about the Samsung S9 Plus snapdragon variant getting the oem unlocked
We are getting one UI 2.5 the next month in October anyway so so after wireless dex there is nothing important coming
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exynos does not have locked BL?

leonardojt said:
I like this idea
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK i will try to make this petition

Petition give android 28 like it's something new and we need!!!
INfact this is GOOGLE's fault, they created such STUPID idiotic OS. Normal OS can get security updates independent from manufacturer, but google made so that only manufacturer can update phones, which is STUPID. Android OS should be in-depended from manufacturers. Android 28 will be just like that

afigienas said:
Petition give android 28 like it's something new and we need!!!
INfact this is GOOGLE's fault, they created such STUPID idiotic OS. Normal OS can get security updates independent from manufacturer, but google made so that only manufacturer can update phones, which is STUPID. Android OS should be in-depended from manufacturers. Android 28 will be just like that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is sensible, but you need
*All phones has unlocked bootloader
*All phones support treble

TheMadScientist said:
Yea get rid of it. People have been making these things for years. It's useless. It's cause so much issues on xda people arguing your petition don't mean jack to them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The op has valid points. These are not some $200 ~ $300 phones which are low powered to not be able to run few iterations of os. These were about $900 plus when launched. We're not talkin about 2011~2015 when phones had 1 gb ram as standard or 2gb but after 2 years the os required more hence those were not considered upgrade worthy. Now these phones have minimum 6GB at least my S9+ has and i'm sure Note also would be same or higher. Also there is enough hp in the chipset to pick up few updates. My phone got updated last night to 2.5UI and everything is so smooth and with tons of widgets on home screen updating real time there is still about 2.6gb ram available all the time and not a single stutter.
In these current times people will not upgrade $1000 plus phones every 2 years in many countries since unlike USA/EU we don't get carrier contracts. People buy upfront and would like to stick for 3 years at least .
So am totally with OP on this. We should have one more update on the os.
edit: lol just noticed my Signature. Shows when I was last active on this site. After S4, had Note 4, S7 edge and now S9 +. None after S4 were rooted or tampered with since the os was good enough and smooth enough.

As said before. They owe us no updates. We buy them as is. Its generosity that they give what they do. They are not obligated to do any more after sales other than warranties