So by now I've opened and set up my Pixel 4a. Quickly got annoyed by the new and half baked gesture navigation.
So I went to Settings > System > Gestures > System Navigation to enable 2 button and... its not there.
Ok, annoying they'd hide it like that, but nothing an ABD command cant fix, so I type in the adb command:
Code:
adb shell cmd overlay enable com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.twobutton
No dice. "Couldnt find service overlay". So Google not only hid the option, but stopped developers from accessing it.
So now I'm forced to use legacy nav (which to be honest isnt too bad) or the new extremely unreliable gesture nav.
No combination of sensitivity or adjustments to my finger speed/placement can make that back gesture reliable or so I can choose to open left slide menus rather than backing out. I hate it so much.
So anyways, back to the question at hand, what can I do to get 2-button (pill gestures) back? Do I have to root just to get this feature back? I already know about alternatives like FNG, I'm not asking about that. I'm asking how to get back the navigation method Google initially was trying to force me to use before this update.
So the only options are full gestures or 3 button? Maybe it'll change once 11 goes official
I've never been a fan of gestures. Always preferred 3-button navigation. Set up my pixel 4a and left gestures on just to see if I could acclimate to it. Really like it and won't be going back to the 3-button nav. Its almost flawless for me.
Gestures work great for me. Just took a few days to get used to
I think I could get used to the gestures in a few days. They work well for me. But I use Nova launcher and Google hasn't taken the cover off gestures for third-party launchers. I'll be using NAV bar until they do (if they do).
winpooh said:
Gestures work great for me. Just took a few days to get used to
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Same here. Don't have the 4a yet (on the FedEx truck for delivery today) but have gesture nav enabled on my 3a and like it. Took me about a week to work out how it works. My GF hates using it compared to using her A20. That can be a good thing. [emoji41]
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BigOkie said:
Same here. Don't have the 4a yet (on the FedEx truck for delivery today) but have gesture nav enabled on my 3a and like it. Took me about a week to work out how it works. My GF hates using it compared to using her A20. That can be a good thing. [emoji41]
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Lol FedEx is supposed to be delivering my 4a today as well. Also my wife doesn't like gestures, she use 3 button on her Pixel 2. But at least I got her to get something other than Samsung :good:
Hey man I had the same issue. Im coming from and iPhone and these new gestures feel like crappy knock offs of the one apple uses. The android 9 style gestures had much better integration from me checking out my friend's 3a. I might have to wait for someone to mod this device with the new gestures
I've been using a10 gestures for 6 months on my 5t, don't think I could go back to 2 or 3 button. You get use to it.
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My S10+ will be coming in next week. Wanted to check if fluid navigation gestures works on the s10, as im not that happy with the baked in gesture controls and much rather would customize the gestures. I don't see why it shouldn't work, but would rather check. Thanks!
Ati75 said:
My S10+ will be coming in next week. Wanted to check if fluid navigation gestures works on the s10, as im not that happy with the baked in gesture controls and much rather would customize the gestures. I don't see why it shouldn't work, but would rather check. Thanks!
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Works perfectly well on my Note 9 with pie/One ui so I don't see any reason not to.
I'm planning to get S10+ and after installing Nova, Fluid gesture is the second thing I do!
I received my phone yesterday (US - Snapdragon) and I can report that FNG works perfectly fine.
Nice find, If the ADs in this are not a pain in the ass I will swap from using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xda.nobar&rdid=com.xda.nobar
this one uses less permissions.
Anyone noticed a bug that the fingerprint button is too low when using FNG. I only realised today to press above the sesnor to login in apps
Guitarfreak26 said:
Anyone noticed a bug that the fingerprint button is too low when using FNG. I only realised today to press above the sesnor to login in apps
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Yep, it has some bugs. The FP icon is lower than it should be because the phone should shows up navbar but fluid tries to hide it.
I had the same issue. Hope developer can find the way to work out that issue.
elrosid said:
Yep, it has some bugs. The FP icon is lower than it should be because the phone should shows up navbar but fluid tries to hide it.
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Im getting this too. It kinda sux but it's not a deal breaker... for now.
In Fluid Navigation gestures unhide nav bar the icon issue gets resolved.
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Ok I found another way that's much smoother. First in Samsung settings disable gesture navigation, so the navigation bar is visible.
Then you need to hide the navigation bar from Fluid Navigation gestures.
I found if you have both enabled they keep fighting each other.
IronSingh said:
In Fluid Navigation gestures unhide nav bar the icon issue gets resolved.
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Ok I found another way that's much smoother. First in Samsung settings disable gesture navigation, so the navigation bar is visible.
Then you need to hide the navigation bar from Fluid Navigation gestures.
I found if you have both enabled they keep fighting each other.
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If you use that way, the fingerprint sensor location show up not correctly, it needs to be a little bit higher because you hide the navigation bar by adb command.
I found the best way to use any navigation bar gesture without samsung and other apps fighting each other but you will need 'setting database edit' app. I am still testing it since yesterday night and it is running flawlessly so far.
Please do tell I see the way I did it, it comes up hit or miss on the correct location. I have gotten used to it. I'm still getting used to this phone, the oneplus 6 was just a lot more intuitive. This phone i have been fiddling for 3 days. I kind of like how it is now
Why don't u use One Hand Operation+ from Samsung? It works better. I prefer the default Samsung gestures though. I guess big hands make it easier to use.
Fullmetal Jun said:
Why don't u use One Hand Operation+ from Samsung? It works better. I prefer the default Samsung gestures though. I guess big hands make it easier to use.
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I was just going to share the same exact opinion
phuduong said:
If you use that way, the fingerprint sensor location show up not correctly, it needs to be a little bit higher because you hide the navigation bar by adb command.
I found the best way to use any navigation bar gesture without samsung and other apps fighting each other but you will need 'setting database edit' app. I am still testing it since yesterday night and it is running flawlessly so far.
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A quick guide please!
Got my S10+ today. Got Fluid Navigation Gestures working fine so far but after i locked the phone and i am back in there is than no gestures and no navbar so i am kinda stuck.
Anybody else got that problem? If so you got any solution to fix it?
So I have it running but the fingerprint has moved down to the bottom of the screen any idea on a fix or have I stuffed something up?
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phuduong said:
If you use that way, the fingerprint sensor location show up not correctly, it needs to be a little bit higher because you hide the navigation bar by adb command.
I found the best way to use any navigation bar gesture without samsung and other apps fighting each other but you will need 'setting database edit' app. I am still testing it since yesterday night and it is running flawlessly so far.
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Can you explain more
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So I have it running but the fingerprint has moved down to the bottom of the screen any idea on a fix or have I stuffed something up?
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Can you explain more
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+1 @phuduong
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+1 @phuduong
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Hi, i found that feature, but after restart phone that reset and you will must do it again.
1. download SetEdit app from Google Play
2. in fluid app let hide bar setting disabled (don't hide navbar by this app) and enable gesture control by fluid.
3. Set the gesture control in the system settings (original by samsung)
4. Run SetEdit app and in Global Table find
navigation_bar_gesture_disabled_by_policy set value to 1
navigation_bar_gesture_while_hidden set value to 1
You may be prompted to grant authorization SetEdit app through ADB.
That's work perfectly for me, but maybe don't for you, be careful.
I apologize for not linking the apps, but I can't. I'm a new user and I don't have enough posts
Fluid NG fix!
kirisek95 said:
Hi, i found that feature, but after restart phone that reset and you will must do it again.
1. download SetEdit app from Google Play
2. in fluid app let hide bar setting disabled (don't hide navbar by this app) and enable gesture control by fluid.
3. Set the gesture control in the system settings (original by samsung)
4. Run SetEdit app and in Global Table find
navigation_bar_gesture_disabled_by_policy set value to 1
navigation_bar_gesture_while_hidden set value to 1
You may be prompted to grant authorization SetEdit app through ADB.
That's work perfectly for me, but maybe don't for you, be careful.
I apologize for not linking the apps, but I can't. I'm a new user and I don't have enough posts
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That's a great solution and works great! You're an absolute life saver!! The only issue is that the 'navigation_bar_gesture_disabled_by_policy' value keeps reverting back to 0 every so often which makes it quite annoying to keep on.
Is there a fix for this? That would be great!
kirisek95 said:
Hi, i found that feature, but after restart phone that reset and you will must do it again.
1. download SetEdit app from Google Play
2. in fluid app let hide bar setting disabled (don't hide navbar by this app) and enable gesture control by fluid.
3. Set the gesture control in the system settings (original by samsung)
4. Run SetEdit app and in Global Table find
navigation_bar_gesture_disabled_by_policy set value to 1
navigation_bar_gesture_while_hidden set value to 1
You may be prompted to grant authorization SetEdit app through ADB.
That's work perfectly for me, but maybe don't for you, be careful.
I apologize for not linking the apps, but I can't. I'm a new user and I don't have enough posts
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Can you post screenshot steps?
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Hey guys, need some help here. I've been rocking nexus 4, nexus 5, nexus 5x, and Pixel for the last many years and thought I would try out a Samsung. I got a crazy good BOGO deal on the S10e at Costco so I thought it would be worth a shot.
Well after having the phone for a few weeks now I just can't get used to the Samsung UI. It quite simply drives me nuts.
I've spent a lot of time "pixel-a-tizing" with Nova Launcher, Bixby button replacement, google apps, etc... but there are still several things that bother me:
1) The biggest is the phone app. I've been able to side load a few pixel phone app clones but they aren't as good as the real thing. I miss my visual voicemail!
2) The phone charges soo slow!
3) Screen brightness is weird. I've got it set to auto but if I manually adjust it and close the phone and turn it back on the auto kicks in and overrides the manual setting. I thought that the manual slider was suppose to act as sort of an offset of the auto mode? At least this is how my previous phones have behaved.
4) Android Q? I'm almost afraid to ask...
I'm very tempted to return this for the new Pixel 3a. I know it's inferior hardware but I would almost prefer that in exchange for the experience....
Any thoughts or suggestions? Is there a way to root this thing into something more google like? Thanks!
You can use the app "Power shade: notification bar changer & manager" in google play to have a more standard notification panel and use custom launcher like you said, but for the rest idk
Anyone install it yet ? Experiences ?
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Seems fine on my PH1 but then I never seem to have all the weird issues others have. Stock unrooted.
Maybe a placebo, but I've noticed a marked improvement in touch and scrolling.
Edit: I've had it running the latest beta for. 12 hours, and have noticed the standby battery drain is much improved for me compared to previous betas.
Also feel faster so far. When I was travelling with maps and play music on it got painfully slow, hanging all the time. Now it looks better. But banking app still not working :/ not sure how I'm going to get it working.
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My beta 4 has been working flawlessly besides the screen studder when I swipe home from within EVERY app. Getting great battery life, 6.5hr+ on screen time with every charge, with 4hrs+ of them being streaming videos. If I don't watch videos, this phone will easily last at least 3.5-4 days. All this at 60% screen brightness.
With that said, I'd hate to install beta 5 and have new issues and worse battery life.
Beta 5 has been good for me. Good battery life about as good as beta 4 was but the only issue I have is even after going full gesture navigation. It seems to go back to 3 button mode randomly and I'll have to change it back. Also I don't see the option to enable the side peek feature that was supposed to be a part of beta 5
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Beta 5 has been good for me. Good battery life about as good as beta 4 was but the only issue I have is even after going full gesture navigation. It seems to go back to 3 button mode randomly and I'll have to change it back. Also I don't see the option to enable the side peek feature that was supposed to be a part of beta 5
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Are you using the stock launcher? Supposedly Google added a "feature" that blocks you from using full gestures if you're using a 3rd party launcher on beta 5.
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Are you using the stock launcher? Supposedly Google added a "feature" that blocks you from using full gestures if you're using a 3rd party launcher on beta 5.
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Hmm na I'm currently using rootless pixel launcher because in beta 4 on quickstep with dark theme the app drawer apps had white letters on white background unless you changed your wallpaper to a dark one.
So your saying if I use the quickstep I can also enable the peek feature?
Craz_Raven said:
Hmm na I'm currently using rootless pixel launcher because in beta 4 on quickstep with dark theme the app drawer apps had white letters on white background unless you changed your wallpaper to a dark one.
So your saying if I use the quickstep I can also enable the peek feature?
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I'm not sure about the peek feature (to be honest I don't know what that is), what I was getting at was about the navigation reverting to 3 button. If you're using something other than stock launcher, it's supposed to force you to use the 3 button navigation according to Google, so that might be why you're seeing that behavior.
Also, beta 5 fixed the dark theme issue.
Edit: Peek is working.
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I'm not sure about the peek feature (to be honest I don't know what that is), what I was getting at was about the navigation reverting to 3 button. If you're using something other than stock launcher, it's supposed to force you to use the 3 button navigation according to Google, so that might be why you're seeing that behavior.
Also, beta 5 fixed the dark theme issue.
Edit: Peek is working.
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Hmm I still can't find the place to enable it. As I though it was supposed to be a settings button to the side of the gesture navigation
Craz_Raven said:
Hmm I still can't find the place to enable it. As I though it was supposed to be a settings button to the side of the gesture navigation
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I didn't have to enable anything, it was just working. I had full gestures as my default when I flashed, and I didn't change anything after that. Looked in settings as well, no option there. I'm assuming it should be on by default.
If you're having trouble with it, disable grip rejection, that could be conflicting with it.
First Impressions
Fresh Clean Fastboot flash
Absolute trash
- QR code on first boot, which I assume is some sort of weird new setup thing.
- Bluetooth crashes infinitely
- Cannot connect to wifi
C'mon Essential... wth?
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First Impressions
Fresh Clean Fastboot flash
Absolute trash
- QR code on first boot, which I assume is some sort of weird new setup thing.
- Bluetooth crashes infinitely
- Cannot connect to wifi
C'mon Essential... wth?
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My beta 5 runs perfectly, besides the studder to home when I exit an app. Same issue I had on beta 4. No big deal to me because thats the only issue I have. Maybe its just because I'm using Nova launcher, idk
GrapeBandit said:
My beta 5 runs perfectly, besides the studder to home when I exit an app. Same issue I had on beta 4. No big deal to me because thats the only issue I have. Maybe its just because I'm using Nova launcher, idk
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Sideloaded OTA zip, after going back to the last PIE
Everything works fine now....
kevp75 said:
Sideloaded OTA zip, after going back to the last PIE
Everything works fine now....
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I took the OTA update. What launcher are you using? Is anyone else having the studder issues going home from within an app?
GrapeBandit said:
I took the OTA update. What launcher are you using? Is anyone else having the studder issues going home from within an app?
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Just the stock one... just got it back up and running...
I'll probably install the pixel experience one
Lawnchair v2 from all mirror works well for me.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/deletescape/lawnchair/
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This will be my last Android phone. Nothing against Essential. They are a great company. It's Google. Between the way Android as a whole and their (non) commitment to their services (abandoning etc.) It's all headed into a public toilet.
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This will be my last Android phone. Nothing against Essential. They are a great company. It's Google. Between the way Android as a whole and their (non) commitment to their services (abandoning etc.) It's all headed into a public toilet.
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Hopefully Huawei's new OS will be a replacement!
So I was messing around with some settings today and using the double tap power button to launch camera from either ambient display or the lock screen. Well that's all fine and dandy and it works but I also let's anyone unlock your phone cause once in camera app you can hit the home button or back button and it'll allow access to the phone in its entirety. Kinda a fail set up. Hopefully fixed. Truly IDC caus no one uses my phone that I don't trust and I NEVER leave it anywhere that I feel wouldn't be safe. Let alone on table at Starbucks or a bar like I see sooo many people do.
All input is welcome on this subject
i couldn't get mine to unlock, but then again I am using Navigation Gestures not the Nav Bar
Nevermind I'm a retard, but as I stated I was messing around with settings today. I set the "on body" to keep device unlocked. Lol live and learn right?
Bradl79 said:
i couldn't get mine to unlock, but then again I am using Navigation Gestures not the Nav Bar
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Honestly I really really wanted to use the gestures, make things feel new and all coming from my old phone but truly I can't they are too show. I always use the double tap recent to almost instantly go back to last open app and switching apps is world's faster this way.
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Honestly I really really wanted to use the gestures, make things feel new and all coming from my old phone but truly I can't they are too show. I always use the double take recent to almost instantly go back to last open app and switching apps is world's faster this way.
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I've never heard such kind of gestures. Which phone/magisk module was that ? Google pixel ?
I also use gestures but once my thumb is on the top half of the phone it's a long way to reach the bottom of the screen [emoji2356]
So I couple it with pie controls
CodeBreaker13 said:
I've never heard such kind of gestures. Which phone/magisk module was that ? Google pixel ?
I also use gestures but once my thumb is on the top half of the phone it's a long way to reach the bottom of the screen [emoji2356]
So I couple it with pie controls
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I use pie controls as well. All phones with Oreo and above have the option to double tap the recents button and it will instantly switch back to the last app open. Say I'm in Facebook and leave to Samsung browser. If I double tap quickly on the recent apps button. I can switch back and forth very quickly between the 2 apps.
Android 10 - Build QP1A.190711.107 is released. My PH-1 is updating OTA.
Sprint? I'm not getting it yet.
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Android 10 - Build QP1A.190711.107 is released. My PH-1 is updating OTA.
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I got it too!!!!! I'm on AT&T. Woo Hoo!!!
Whoo Hoo , got it mine too !
Seems to be working great.
BTW, is there any way to swap the recent and back button?
adb shell
settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,recent;home;back,space"
This doesn't work any more :\
Just flashed the fastboot image, for some reason the only options under Choose screen lock are "none" and "Swipe". There's no option for PIN or pattern anymore which leaves me unable to add a fingerprint to unlock with either
How's the battery life in Android Q?
Is it the same with P or worse?
I assume now that it is official, that SafetyNet is passing ok so things such as GooglePay aren't a problem? I had avoided trying a beta because of the lack of SafetyNet failures on them from what I had read, and I tend to use GooglePay and a few games that need SafetyNet.
chanh2018 said:
How's the battery life in Android Q?
Is it the same with P or worse?
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Can't really answer that definitively, it came out a few hours ago. I don't consider using Beta releases as proof, and the thing about battery life, is that it is so dependent on what you do with your phone, that each one of us will get different results.
I'm surprised that the update is only 16 MB if you're on the final beta, but I think I remember the update from Android 8 beta to 9 being similarly tiny. That's a pretty good indicator that barely anything changed from beta 6.
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Just flashed the fastboot image, for some reason the only options under Choose screen lock are "none" and "Swipe". There's no option for PIN or pattern anymore which leaves me unable to add a fingerprint to unlock with either
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See the August Q Beta thread, he fixed by going back to Pie then OTA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/how-to/august-q-beta-t3955477/post80048214
cant change calendar sound, media storage crashed when try changing calendar notification sound
WIFI and Bluetooth broken after update
WIFI and bluetooth will not stay on. Factory reset doesn't help. Neither does going back to Android 9 and doing another OTA to 10. Staying on 9 until further notice!
lentm said:
Seems to be working great.
BTW, is there any way to swap the recent and back button?
adb shell
settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,recent;home;back,space"
This doesn't work any more :\
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Go to gesture settings. Switch to 2/3 buttons
Mine on Android 10. Problem is :
1. Full dark mode but not on google feed
2. Force dark mode is good, but in Facebook app highlight text/Notification text is turn to white.
3. No Face unlock
4. Media crash on calendar sound
5. can`t use gesture navigation with 3rd party launcher
Hope essential read this thread..
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DON2003 said:
cant change calendar sound, media storage crashed when try changing calendar notification sound
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Same for me
(can change sound in aCalendar+ app)
Updated OTA last night. So far so good, not noticed any specific issues yet.
Kudos to essential for keeping so on top of these updates. If they do ever release another one I will buy one so long as they strengthen the phone/data signal a bit. That is pretty much my only disappointment with this one, but still it was worth every cent of the 200 bucks or so I paid for it.
Flashed ota through twrp and rooted using Magisk's canary build.
No issues thus far. I can change the stock calendar notification without media crash, but I'm only using the stock sounds. Are those experiencing issues using custom sounds?
Still can`t use gesture navigation with 3rd party launcher?
St.Noigel said:
Still can`t use gesture navigation with 3rd party launcher?
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Yupp.. Add to my post..
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