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Anyone install it yet ? Experiences ?
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Seems fine on my PH1 but then I never seem to have all the weird issues others have. Stock unrooted.

Maybe a placebo, but I've noticed a marked improvement in touch and scrolling.
Edit: I've had it running the latest beta for. 12 hours, and have noticed the standby battery drain is much improved for me compared to previous betas.

Also feel faster so far. When I was travelling with maps and play music on it got painfully slow, hanging all the time. Now it looks better. But banking app still not working :/ not sure how I'm going to get it working.
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My beta 4 has been working flawlessly besides the screen studder when I swipe home from within EVERY app. Getting great battery life, 6.5hr+ on screen time with every charge, with 4hrs+ of them being streaming videos. If I don't watch videos, this phone will easily last at least 3.5-4 days. All this at 60% screen brightness.
With that said, I'd hate to install beta 5 and have new issues and worse battery life.

Beta 5 has been good for me. Good battery life about as good as beta 4 was but the only issue I have is even after going full gesture navigation. It seems to go back to 3 button mode randomly and I'll have to change it back. Also I don't see the option to enable the side peek feature that was supposed to be a part of beta 5

Craz_Raven said:
Beta 5 has been good for me. Good battery life about as good as beta 4 was but the only issue I have is even after going full gesture navigation. It seems to go back to 3 button mode randomly and I'll have to change it back. Also I don't see the option to enable the side peek feature that was supposed to be a part of beta 5
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Are you using the stock launcher? Supposedly Google added a "feature" that blocks you from using full gestures if you're using a 3rd party launcher on beta 5.

Jz5678910 said:
Are you using the stock launcher? Supposedly Google added a "feature" that blocks you from using full gestures if you're using a 3rd party launcher on beta 5.
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Hmm na I'm currently using rootless pixel launcher because in beta 4 on quickstep with dark theme the app drawer apps had white letters on white background unless you changed your wallpaper to a dark one.
So your saying if I use the quickstep I can also enable the peek feature?

Craz_Raven said:
Hmm na I'm currently using rootless pixel launcher because in beta 4 on quickstep with dark theme the app drawer apps had white letters on white background unless you changed your wallpaper to a dark one.
So your saying if I use the quickstep I can also enable the peek feature?
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I'm not sure about the peek feature (to be honest I don't know what that is), what I was getting at was about the navigation reverting to 3 button. If you're using something other than stock launcher, it's supposed to force you to use the 3 button navigation according to Google, so that might be why you're seeing that behavior.
Also, beta 5 fixed the dark theme issue.
Edit: Peek is working.

Jz5678910 said:
I'm not sure about the peek feature (to be honest I don't know what that is), what I was getting at was about the navigation reverting to 3 button. If you're using something other than stock launcher, it's supposed to force you to use the 3 button navigation according to Google, so that might be why you're seeing that behavior.
Also, beta 5 fixed the dark theme issue.
Edit: Peek is working.
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Hmm I still can't find the place to enable it. As I though it was supposed to be a settings button to the side of the gesture navigation

Craz_Raven said:
Hmm I still can't find the place to enable it. As I though it was supposed to be a settings button to the side of the gesture navigation
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I didn't have to enable anything, it was just working. I had full gestures as my default when I flashed, and I didn't change anything after that. Looked in settings as well, no option there. I'm assuming it should be on by default.
If you're having trouble with it, disable grip rejection, that could be conflicting with it.

First Impressions
Fresh Clean Fastboot flash
Absolute trash
- QR code on first boot, which I assume is some sort of weird new setup thing.
- Bluetooth crashes infinitely
- Cannot connect to wifi
C'mon Essential... wth?

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First Impressions
Fresh Clean Fastboot flash
Absolute trash
- QR code on first boot, which I assume is some sort of weird new setup thing.
- Bluetooth crashes infinitely
- Cannot connect to wifi
C'mon Essential... wth?
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My beta 5 runs perfectly, besides the studder to home when I exit an app. Same issue I had on beta 4. No big deal to me because thats the only issue I have. Maybe its just because I'm using Nova launcher, idk

GrapeBandit said:
My beta 5 runs perfectly, besides the studder to home when I exit an app. Same issue I had on beta 4. No big deal to me because thats the only issue I have. Maybe its just because I'm using Nova launcher, idk
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Sideloaded OTA zip, after going back to the last PIE
Everything works fine now....

kevp75 said:
Sideloaded OTA zip, after going back to the last PIE
Everything works fine now....
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I took the OTA update. What launcher are you using? Is anyone else having the studder issues going home from within an app?

GrapeBandit said:
I took the OTA update. What launcher are you using? Is anyone else having the studder issues going home from within an app?
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Just the stock one... just got it back up and running...
I'll probably install the pixel experience one

Lawnchair v2 from all mirror works well for me.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/deletescape/lawnchair/
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This will be my last Android phone. Nothing against Essential. They are a great company. It's Google. Between the way Android as a whole and their (non) commitment to their services (abandoning etc.) It's all headed into a public toilet.

BaNkS said:
This will be my last Android phone. Nothing against Essential. They are a great company. It's Google. Between the way Android as a whole and their (non) commitment to their services (abandoning etc.) It's all headed into a public toilet.
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Hopefully Huawei's new OS will be a replacement!

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Nova Launcher-dock divider disappears on S3

I prefer to use Nova launcher however there is one big problem that I am experiencing while using it on my Samsung Galaxy S3 Verizon version. The dock divider disappears at random. It happens far too frequently to just ignore. It happens on the play store version and on the beta as well. I would like to buy Prime, however will not do so until this is fixed. It will only return after I enter and exit certain apps or if I restart Nova Launcher. I have switched to Apex until someone can find an answer to this.
Stupid question, but did you accidentally uncheck the option to show it?
Look in dock settings. There is an option for it to be off, in addition to an option to have it fade.
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1ManWolfePack said:
Stupid question, but did you accidentally uncheck the option to show it?
Look in dock settings. There is an option for it to be off, in addition to an option to have it fade.
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I do not have it set to off. It comes and goes without changing any settings. For example, I go into the play store to update an app and when I back out to get back to the home screen the divider disappears. it does not happen all of the time which makes it harder to pin point where the bug is coming from. If I enter messenger and back out of messenger then the divider comes back. What does the fade option do? I thought it might be the beta version, however it happens on the official version as well.
It just fades away after a few seconds. Uncheck that and test.
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It just fades away after a few seconds. Uncheck that and test.
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That was not checked. I do not see anyone else reporting this issue and I have done a good amount of searching. I am starting to wonder if it is a setting or app in my individual phone that is causing the bug. It is too bad because i believe Nova to be a smoother experience than Apex.
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That was not checked. I do not see anyone else reporting this issue and I have done a good amount of searching. I am starting to wonder if it is a setting or app in my individual phone that is causing the bug. It is too bad because i believe Nova to be a smoother experience than Apex.
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I switched from Apex which I have used for a long time on previous devices to Nova in my G3 (I have the paid version of both apps) & I tried everything I could think of & could not duplicate your problem.
I prefer the dock divider to be hidden, but when I set it to show it works perfectly for me.
jmorton10 said:
I switched from Apex which I have used for a long time on previous devices to Nova in my G3 (I have the paid version of both apps) & I tried everything I could think of & could not duplicate your problem.
I prefer the dock divider to be hidden, but when I set it to show it works perfectly for me.
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What are your desktop height and width settings? Interesting, maybe I will pick up the paid version and see if that helps and return it if I can reproduce the bug quickly.
elreydenj said:
What are your desktop height and width settings?
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width is set on medium
height margin is set to none
Try going into facebook and looking at someone's photo that they had posted and then back out of facebook. That produces the bug for me.
I believe I found out what my issue was. I realized that this only occurred on one of my homescreens. This particular homescreen had many app shortcuts on it as it had two folders with 6 apps each on it along with the other apps taking up the rest of the space on the homscreen. I reduced the amount of items on the homescreen and upon the launcher reproducing the screen after entering an app, the divider no longer disappeared. I believe that there was just too much going on with this particular screen.
That's cool that you figured it out, I agree 100% that Nova is better than Apex for this phone.
I thought I had it, but it has returned. I know what the issue is as I can recreate it every time. I do not know of a fix yet. If infinite scroll is off and you scroll to the homescreen on the far left or right you get a blue animation basically telling you that you can scroll no more. I personally like this animation. If I do that, and then click on my messaging app in my dock and then exit the app, the divider disappears on my galaxy s3. It does not happen every time, but I would say that it happens more often than not. If you change the dock height to large, it does not happen. It only happens when the dock height is on it's default which is medium. Once again, this is using nova launcher prime and it occurs on the official and on the beta.

Split screen view option missing from menu

Updated to Pie. The split screen option is not in the menu no matter what app I try it with. I've checked every place I could think of in Good Lock, Nova Launcher & Samsung settings & can't find anything that would be preventing it. I even tried under Samsung Launcher & had the same result. If anyone has any ideas, please share.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sa...-apps-in-multi-window-one-ui-android-pie/amp/
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If you have a specific app that you need to use in Multu-window with YouTube, you can also use the apps edge panel to open the pair simultaneously.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sa...-apps-in-multi-window-one-ui-android-pie/amp/
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Thanks, but as you can see from the picture I posted, I know how to do it. The problem is the split screen option is not available.
jack man said:
If you have a specific app that you need to use in Multu-window with YouTube, you can also use the apps edge panel to open the pair simultaneously.
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I tried that too. I could not get that feature to work either.
This is a screenshot from my recent apps page not sure why yours is differentView attachment 4734993
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Did you press the button with the 3 lines it looks like you pressed something else I dont have that button only recents (3 lines ) home (square) and back (arrow)
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bluehaze911 said:
I tried that too. I could not get that feature to work either.
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I tried a few things but couldn't replicate what you are experiencing. Are you running Good Lock? I know it has a feature that modifies multi window, but I don't know if it would cause the issue you have.
Did you take the ota directly from the carrier? Or did you flash the new pie update? Mine came from the carrier last Thursday. Today, I backed up everything and did a factory reset and it feels like it's running smoother. Maybe that could fix your issue.
Turns out it was a bug in Good Lock's Multistar. They pushed an update last night that fixed the problem for me. Thanks to all for trying to help.

Android 10 is now available for the Essential PH-1

Android 10 - Build QP1A.190711.107 is released. My PH-1 is updating OTA.
Sprint? I'm not getting it yet.
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MuddyDog said:
Android 10 - Build QP1A.190711.107 is released. My PH-1 is updating OTA.
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I got it too!!!!! I'm on AT&T. Woo Hoo!!!
Whoo Hoo , got it mine too !
Seems to be working great.
BTW, is there any way to swap the recent and back button?
adb shell
settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,recent;home;back,space"
This doesn't work any more :\
Just flashed the fastboot image, for some reason the only options under Choose screen lock are "none" and "Swipe". There's no option for PIN or pattern anymore which leaves me unable to add a fingerprint to unlock with either
How's the battery life in Android Q?
Is it the same with P or worse?
I assume now that it is official, that SafetyNet is passing ok so things such as GooglePay aren't a problem? I had avoided trying a beta because of the lack of SafetyNet failures on them from what I had read, and I tend to use GooglePay and a few games that need SafetyNet.
chanh2018 said:
How's the battery life in Android Q?
Is it the same with P or worse?
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Can't really answer that definitively, it came out a few hours ago. I don't consider using Beta releases as proof, and the thing about battery life, is that it is so dependent on what you do with your phone, that each one of us will get different results.
I'm surprised that the update is only 16 MB if you're on the final beta, but I think I remember the update from Android 8 beta to 9 being similarly tiny. That's a pretty good indicator that barely anything changed from beta 6.
atthevoltain said:
Just flashed the fastboot image, for some reason the only options under Choose screen lock are "none" and "Swipe". There's no option for PIN or pattern anymore which leaves me unable to add a fingerprint to unlock with either
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See the August Q Beta thread, he fixed by going back to Pie then OTA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/how-to/august-q-beta-t3955477/post80048214
cant change calendar sound, media storage crashed when try changing calendar notification sound
WIFI and Bluetooth broken after update
WIFI and bluetooth will not stay on. Factory reset doesn't help. Neither does going back to Android 9 and doing another OTA to 10. Staying on 9 until further notice!
lentm said:
Seems to be working great.
BTW, is there any way to swap the recent and back button?
adb shell
settings put secure sysui_nav_bar "space,recent;home;back,space"
This doesn't work any more :\
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Go to gesture settings. Switch to 2/3 buttons
Mine on Android 10. Problem is :
1. Full dark mode but not on google feed
2. Force dark mode is good, but in Facebook app highlight text/Notification text is turn to white.
3. No Face unlock
4. Media crash on calendar sound
5. can`t use gesture navigation with 3rd party launcher
Hope essential read this thread..
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DON2003 said:
cant change calendar sound, media storage crashed when try changing calendar notification sound
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Same for me
(can change sound in aCalendar+ app)
Updated OTA last night. So far so good, not noticed any specific issues yet.
Kudos to essential for keeping so on top of these updates. If they do ever release another one I will buy one so long as they strengthen the phone/data signal a bit. That is pretty much my only disappointment with this one, but still it was worth every cent of the 200 bucks or so I paid for it.
Flashed ota through twrp and rooted using Magisk's canary build.
No issues thus far. I can change the stock calendar notification without media crash, but I'm only using the stock sounds. Are those experiencing issues using custom sounds?
Still can`t use gesture navigation with 3rd party launcher?
St.Noigel said:
Still can`t use gesture navigation with 3rd party launcher?
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Yupp.. Add to my post..
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Question Battery Drain / Gestures.

Hi guys... I have MIUI Global 12.0.6 but the thing is that the battery drops 20% without using my phone, is it normal? Also, full-screen gestures is not working. Is there a way to make it work?
Jotasejota said:
Hi guys... I have MIUI Global 12.0.6 but the thing is that the battery drops 20% without using my phone, is it normal? Also, full-screen gestures is not working. Is there a way to make it work?
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Not sure about the battery drain, but the gestures are only supported using the default launcher. Are you using anything other than the POCO Launcher?
disacrol said:
Not sure about the battery drain, but the gestures are only supported using the default launcher. Are you using anything other than the POCO Launcher?
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Oh... Yes, I'm using Nova prime, not a fan of poco launcher :c
Jotasejota said:
Oh... Yes, I'm using Nova prime, not a fan of poco launcher :c
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Me neither, waiting for the right ROM to flash because I'm really used to full screen features but that prevents me from using Niagara... Also never really liked MIUI at all.
But maybe that's also related with the battery drain. Maybe something happens under the hood when you're using third party launchers that makes the CPU to be constantly working... I wouldn't be surprised.
Maybe try switching to POCO Launcher for a couple days to see if you notice a difference.
disacrol said:
Me neither, waiting for the right ROM to flash because I'm really used to full screen features but that prevents me from using Niagara... Also never really liked MIUI at all.
But maybe that's also related with the battery drain. Maybe something happens under the hood when you're using third party launchers that makes the CPU to be constantly working... I wouldn't be surprised.
Maybe try switching to POCO Launcher for a couple days to see if you notice a difference.
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Sure I'll try it, thanks. I also deleted a lot of bloatware and it seems to be working fine
nova is not working with gestures..
On miui You must have poco launcher
Jotasejota said:
Oh... Yes, I'm using Nova prime, not a fan of poco launcher :c
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You can use FNG in conjunction with Nova. Working fine
bartito said:
You can use FNG in conjunction with Nova. Working fine
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I tried, but it disables and I have to reboot bc it doesn't enable the navigation bar.
Jotasejota said:
I tried, but it disables and I have to reboot bc it doesn't enable the navigation bar.
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You need to add FNG to the "Auto started" apps.
The only issue I have is the navigation bar becomes enabled on each reboot. You need to enter settings->additional->gestures to re-enable full screen gestures and no issues until next reboot.
Yep I have already done that but for some reason it keeps getting disabled, idk why...
Jotasejota said:
Yep I have already done that but for some reason it keeps getting disabled, idk why...
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Strange. No one issue on my side and I using it for since some weeks ago.
It stops working randomly and if I wait a few minutes a message appears at the bottom of the screen "FNG enabled" And then it works normally ... So annoying.
Have you tried to exec "adb logcat" to try to know whats exactly the issue you have?
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You can use FNG in conjunction with Nova. Working fine
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What do you mean by FNG? MIUI own infinite screen option with gestures? Or some third party app?
disacrol said:
What do you mean by FNG? MIUI own infinite screen option with gestures? Or some third party app?
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MIUI Full screen Gestures aren't working with Third Party Launchers.
Due to that, I use FNG app, that is working perfectly (at least in my case)
FNG: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fb.fluid
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately it has been discontinued, and now in Android 11 you can no longer hide the navigation bar, which was a must for me.
disacrol said:
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately it has been discontinued, and now in Android 11 you can no longer hide the navigation bar, which was a must for me.
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In order to hide navigation bar on MIUI 12.x (Android 11) you need to enable full screen gestures on MIUI settings.
Full screen gestures aren't working with thrid party launchers, but navigation bar becomes hidden and gestures are working perfect on FNG, even if discontinued (like I've explained some posts ago).
bartito said:
In order to hide navigation bar on MIUI 12.x (Android 11) you need to enable full screen gestures on MIUI settings.
Full screen gestures aren't working with thrid party launchers, but navigation bar becomes hidden and gestures are working perfect on FNG, even if discontinued (like I've explained some posts ago).
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I see, FNG does work, although it's a bit glitchy with the bottom actions, can't really pull from the beginning of the screen like with the side actions. But good tip, thanks!
Jotasejota said:
Hi guys... I have MIUI Global 12.0.6 but the thing is that the battery drops 20% without using my phone, is it normal? Also, full-screen gestures is not working. Is there a way to make it work?
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Hi Jotasejota,
I had similar drain issues that were resolved by playing with location permissions (via Privacy protection), I set it so no app has permanent access and selected just few apps I need to use location only when an app is in use. For gestures I can't help as I don't use Miui launcher.

Question Nova Launcher or Android 13 OS problem?

I'm rooted and have mods installed, so they could be part of the problem too.
Anyone else seeing this? Every once in awhile, I'll press the "home" button on the navbar.
And instead of showing me my home screen with icons & such, it only shows my background.
I have to press the home button a second time before my icons and folders show up.
CZ Eddie said:
I'm rooted and have mods installed, so they could be part of the problem too.
Anyone else seeing this? Every once in awhile, I'll press the "home" button on the navbar.
And instead of showing me my home screen with icons & such, it only shows my background.
I have to press the home button a second time before my icons and folders show up.
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Plenty of people have this issue, some launchers don't work properly, I'm getting others issues as well like folders showing up in recents.
There's no real fix at the moment, you either change launcher or keep the issues.
Darn. Okay, thanks for letting me know that it's not just me.
I haven't had any issues with Nova Launcher. I'm using the Prime version. Perhaps that makes a difference?
Have you changed the settings within the config utility?
Yep, I've had Prime Nova for many years.
I change a TON of settings in the Nova settings.
It doesn't happen often enough to make troubleshooting easy.
I guess I could try resetting it back to factory defaults for a week or so.
CZ Eddie said:
I'm rooted and have mods installed, so they could be part of the problem too.
Anyone else seeing this? Every once in awhile, I'll press the "home" button on the navbar.
And instead of showing me my home screen with icons & such, it only shows my background.
I have to press the home button a second time before my icons and folders show up.
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You mention that you're rooted and have mods installed...I would definitely look there first. I say this because I use Nova Prime on my 7 Pro and have zero issues. In fact I have been using Nova Prime on all my phones for years without any problems. YMMV
Every single third party launcher and device has this issue (and more) ever since Android 10 came out and tied Recents and Launchers together, it's worse with gesutres but can happen with navbar too.
Those who claim to not have it either ignore it, don't use their device fast or don't mind lag
Lawnchair alpha 4, no issues
Not rooted, qp beta, nova prime, no issues like that on mine.
..certainly no one can have accessibility function for gestures in nova launcher, this is due to google - android 13 security,
double tap would be a bless, so i don't understand why google is providing double tap on the back of the phone, but only strange single tap (lock screen) on the front of the device.. ?
I ran into a similar issue with Android 12 & 13 - it's a little tricky to get the gestures for Nova to work on the lock screen and provided a couple of screen shots to make things easier for you.
mikebb00 said:
I ran into a similar issue with Android 12 & 13 - it's a little tricky to get the gestures for Nova to work on the lock screen and provided a couple of screen shots to make things easier for you.
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..got latest 13 7pro + nova prime beta, except notifications, accessibility (nova launcher) is unavailable for security reasons - as google kindly prompting this in the settings..
gubik7 said:
..got latest 13 7pro + nova prime beta, except notifications, accessibility (nova launcher) is unavailable for security reasons - as google kindly prompting this in the settings..
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To enable accessibility, go to 3 dot menu in app info and bypass the restriction there.
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To enable accessibility, go to 3 dot menu in app info and bypass the restriction there.
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spot-on thanks!
I followed this advice and Nova is still broken. Oh well. I guess I could try another Rom, but how do we launch the default launcher?
No problem with Nova 8.0.3 here. But i dont use navbar.
And accessibility is working as well. I use it for double tap to sleep.
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I followed this advice and Nova is still broken. Oh well. I guess I could try another Rom, but how do we launch the default launcher?
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Search default home in settings
CZ Eddie said:
I'm rooted and have mods installed, so they could be part of the problem too.
Anyone else seeing this? Every once in awhile, I'll press the "home" button on the navbar.
And instead of showing me my home screen with icons & such, it only shows my background.
I have to press the home button a second time before my icons and folders show up.
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I only have that occasional issue if I have a **** ton of memory hungry apps running. And I think it started with the January update
Using total launcher and something similar happens to me. When I use gestures to pull up recent apps, I'll just see my homescreen instead of the apps themselves. Very weird but the behavior still works in that I can press the screen and it goes to the last app, which is what I want majority of the time.
Nova gestures work for me via Accessibility - but only for a few hours. Then, I can't see a note in Accessibility menu for Nova non-malfunctioning. Turning the Allow toggle off and on resolves the problem, temporarily.

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