Android 11 - Google Pixel 4a Questions & Answers

Android 11 - Google Pixel 4a Questions & Answers

The Pixel 4a will ship with Android 10, do you think we will be immediately able to upgrade "even to a Beta" or will we just need to wait a bit.

AstroDigital said:
The Pixel 4a will ship with Android 10, do you think we will be immediately able to upgrade "even to a Beta" or will we just need to wait a bit.
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Should get beta soon as it's out unless they specify it's going directly to 11 shortly after release.

Just wanted to reply. I updated to the Beta last night and had a significant touch issue. It was almost like my screen was not grounded and Swype gestures registered as about 50 individual screen presses and opened a ton of apps. I have to wipe my phone and revert back to Android 10 and it works perfect again.
One other item of note. The color profile is more vibrant on Android 11. Similar to my OG pixel xl and Pixel 2 xl. I liked it more than Android 10 on the 4a.
It will be nice when it is fully working.

^I've installed 11 beta 3 and not having any touch issues and I have a screen protector on.
Nova launcher worked but not as home default. However the newest Nova beta does work fine as default home app.

I also have touch issues ... I hope google can address this asap...

I've been using 11 beta 3 for a couple days and haven't noticed any issues. I like the 4a a lot and I like Android 11 too. It seems very smooth and refined already. Loving the home controls in the power menu.

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Anyone using Pixel 2 stock ?

Not sure if I am burned out or just no longer have the desire but I realized I have not flashed a custom ROM since June of this year so I'll be rapidly approaching 6 months and that was for my 5X. This Pixel 2 I have left stock and the Pixel 1 I had, I made it stock back in June after flashed for a few months.
I have a few mods that I use, but for the most part this Pixel 2 is stock unrooted. I think part of it is being able to also do updates without issues. Ever since the Pixel 1, I could never update stock without wiping. Whenever I'd try to flash individual files or remove the -w flag, it would still wipe. Pixel 2 works fine, battery life has been incredible so probably no changes in the near future.
Plus getting root is getting harder. I don't use Android Pay, but I stopped using magisk over the summer. Too much back and forth.

I plan on keeping my Pixel 2 stock, probably as long as Google actively supports it (at least 3 years they say...). The main reason I switched to the Pixel line was Google's frequent updates and the lack of the need to constantly be flashing a different ROM, etc.
I am very happy with Google's software experience. In the past I mostly ran custom ROMs on my Samsung devices to get away from the Samsung bloat/UI. With Motorola it was primarily due to the lack of software support from Lenovorola. So far the Pixel 2 in its stock form is exactly what I have wanted from my previous devices, without modification.

mines stock besides bootloader unlock, magisk, and custom kernel to pass safetynet
love it. fast, responsive, and best battery life in any phone i've ever had

I just got mine and mines stock too. I used custom ROMS because OEMs never updated their ROM. I'm hoping I won't have to flash to a custom ROM for the next 3 years.

Stock but running Dev preview. The ab partitions seem like more trouble than it's worth. Having owned G6 as well as the s8+ on TMobile. I just feel incentive to root is just not there anymore. As much as the AB partitions are a pain I absolutely love how fast updates are. Like holy sht less than 5 minutes and all is up and well.

The only reason why I would root is because of the possibility to change the system fonts !
I really like to have my favourite fonts on the phone !
Otherwise, I'm happy to stay stock !

I have been using "Google phones" since the Nexus S. The Pixel 2 is the first one I have left completely stock.
Android Oreo is fine the way it is for me. Battery life is great, I block ads through my own VPN connection so I really have no reason to unlock it and root it.
I just sideload the monthly updates and everything just works. I am very happy with it.

The stock 8.0 on the 5X has been pretty bad although it's possible if I factory reset it, it may be better, but it has just worked poorly but I have not formatted since June just rolled it up.
8.0 on the Pixel 2 has worked fine without any issues. The updates on time and frequency is probably the biggest appeal for me. There was one LG I had a few years ago that got updates for 12 months. Never changed past Lollipop. Just released with Lollipop then patches for 12 months then that was it. Unacceptable.

I still don't fully understand the A/B partitions after they removed the recovery factory. There's slot A/B, but I'm not sure how to manage them, I just let TWRP flash whatever.....that's part of it too, I can't keep up with the constant changes.

I use stock on all my google phones. I used to root, mainly to block ads, but I'm using dns66 on my Pixel 2 and it seems good enough.

I use to root my Android to access the Magisk or Xposed. But I decided to keep my Pixel 2 as long as possible. Part of the reason is that I am still waiting Google to roll out the hotfix for some minor but annoying bug like bluetooth headset compatibility problem. Another reason is I think I can live with some non-root required customization app like Custom Navigation Bar or Shortcutter now.

Considering that the daily SoT I get with this device is more than what I need:
I might end up opening the bootloader in the future to put a more aggressive performance kernel that kills more battery.
But for now I'll stay stock. Last two Nexus I've owned were rooted to have Pixel Launcher with Now Card left menu.
Sent from my Pixel 2

I use mine stock with Nova launcher. I have rooted and flashed all my phones in the past but with this one, I don't feel the need to. It's really fast and the battery is great.

My Pixel 1 is unlocked but I ended up running stock towards the end of my use. Updates weren't that hard when I was unlocked, just a lot of steps to follow (download OTA, flash in TWRP, immediately flash TWRP, flash root, flash any mods, reboot).
My Pixel 2 is Verizon so I don't really have a choice about root now. I hope I can live with it.
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I'm running unlocked and rooted only because I find I can typically get better battery life using custom kernels (using flash kernel right now, standby battery drain much improved), as well as for adblocking and viper4android (whenever it gets fixed for enforcing kernels, works on permissive however).
I doubt I will ever want/need to flash a custom rom on this phone though.

I just switched to Pixel 2 from years of HTC phones, which have similar smoothness, but the only way to get super-quick updates with HTC, even the developers' edition, is with custom ROMs. Now that I have the Pixel 2, I'll try to keep it stock for as long as I can.
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

PIXEL 2 is good as is. I usually root for increased battery and volume, but this phone is good as is. Also found Xperia keyboard which I love. In fact the pixel 2 acts rooted and experimental even though it is released. Camera comes and goes sometimes quick pictures, other times black screen and fault. Hopefully an update or two will resolve issues.
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Lucio_74 said:
The only reason why I would root is because of the possibility to change the system fonts !
I really like to have my favourite fonts on the phone !
Otherwise, I'm happy to stay stock !
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Mine is stock also but this would be why I root (leaning heavily towards not rooting though).
Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

The stock set up and kernel on this phone is giving me insane battery life. I haven't had any lag. I'd say the pixel 1 was just as smooth I don't think the pixel 2 is any smoother although the battery is much better but then again I used nougat with pixel 1

foosion said:
I use stock on all my google phones. I used to root, mainly to block ads, but I'm using dns66 on my Pixel 2 and it seems good enough.
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So dns66 is working well on Oreo? Any problems?

Android 9.0 Pie is Officially out.

Google is dropping a major surprise on us today and releasing the final consumer-ready version of Android P. It has a final name: the version number is "9" (not "9.0"), and we know what the "P" stands for: "Pie."
"Android 9 Pie" is now finished and will start rolling out to Google's Pixel phones.
This release was unexpected given that the last developer preview of Android P only came out 12 days ago, and some rumors were even pegging August 20 for a release date.
At first glance, things like the colorful icons in Settings, circular Quick Settings icons, and rounded corners for just about every menu jump out like a sore thumb. These elements do take some getting used to, but I ultimately came around to liking them quite a bit.
Something else you'll notice with Android P is just how alive it feels. Between the new gestures and updated animations, Android moves in a way that I've never seen before. Oreo was smooth and buttery, but Android P flies underneath your fingertips in a way that can only be experienced in-person.
https://blog.google/products/android/introducing-android-9-pie/

That's great. Hopefully we can soon start seeing some ROMs based on Pie for our lovely Redmi Note 5.

Redmi Note 5 Pro Have Capability of Custom Rom Based on Android P

Guys, recently Im struggle to stay in MIUI or Pure android. Maybe this post can allow someone in this forum to give some opinion and discussion. I used to hate MIUI 7&8 because of how clunky it was during my day with Redmi Note 3 pro. Now I've change to Redmi Note 5 (whyred), and it comes with MIUI 9.5. Since I gonna wait for 360 hours for unlocking bootloader, this is a time where I can try out MIUI 9.5. To be honest, it is so much better compare to my last experience with MIUI. Now I love how the full screen gesture work. I understand that RR custom rom or many other support edge gesture but trust me, the feeling is just different. MIUI 9.5 have a seamless gesture that feels all natural and the animation just move along with ur finger swipe. The trigger of apps is fast and smooth.
Now come to MIUI 10 beta ROM. I haven tried yet, but from all the hype, it has "ZERO" app opening time, and the speed almost claim to be outrunning the MIUI9.5.
Next, 2 days ago, the announce of Android Pie with its new single "pill" gesture to replace the 3 navigation button, and some other new stuff. Like the adaptive battery, sounds promising to give much much better battery life.
So now with 3 choices here. I have big big big dilemma going on. Please discuss, debate, defend your point or whatever it is. Im not sure I want to open a new thread but I think this is relevant to the topic the OP opened.
1.) Stay Global Stable (9.5) and update as it release - Having most stability and no risk of bricking or messing up with phone
2.) Go MIUI 10 (either fw-less, or miui eu...) - Able to enjoy MIUI 10, and keep my fav full screen gesture
3.) Go for Android P (when official rom release which i bet it will be coming soon, even there are some port available now) - I lost full screen gesture, but maybe the adaptive battery, and new stock experience is more superior than MIUI 10??? someone with experience on both tell me?
Someone give your opinion plz. THANKS!

I used to be android pure lover.but now i love miui 9/10 better,it super smooth. and battery life is amazing

kuance said:
Guys, recently Im struggle to stay in MIUI or Pure android. Maybe this post can allow someone in this forum to give some opinion and discussion. I used to hate MIUI 7&8 because of how clunky it was during my day with Redmi Note 3 pro. Now I've change to Redmi Note 5 (whyred), and it comes with MIUI 9.5. Since I gonna wait for 360 hours for unlocking bootloader, this is a time where I can try out MIUI 9.5. To be honest, it is so much better compare to my last experience with MIUI. Now I love how the full screen gesture work. I understand that RR custom rom or many other support edge gesture but trust me, the feeling is just different. MIUI 9.5 have a seamless gesture that feels all natural and the animation just move along with ur finger swipe. The trigger of apps is fast and smooth.
Now come to MIUI 10 beta ROM. I haven tried yet, but from all the hype, it has "ZERO" app opening time, and the speed almost claim to be outrunning the MIUI9.5.
Next, 2 days ago, the announce of Android Pie with its new single "pill" gesture to replace the 3 navigation button, and some other new stuff. Like the adaptive battery, sounds promising to give much much better battery life.
So now with 3 choices here. I have big big big dilemma going on. Please discuss, debate, defend your point or whatever it is. Im not sure I want to open a new thread but I think this is relevant to the topic the OP opened.
1.) Stay Global Stable (9.5) and update as it release - Having most stability and no risk of bricking or messing up with phone
2.) Go MIUI 10 (either fw-less, or miui eu...) - Able to enjoy MIUI 10, and keep my fav full screen gesture
3.) Go for Android P (when official rom release which i bet it will be coming soon, even there are some port available now) - I lost full screen gesture, but maybe the adaptive battery, and new stock experience is more superior than MIUI 10??? someone with experience on both tell me?
Someone give your opinion plz. THANKS!
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I prefer Stock Android, but I don't mind using MIUI 9 either. I have specific need, that Automagic must be working 95% perfectly in the ROM and MIUI 9 passed the test. I am planning to wait until MIUI 10 stable, testing it for at least a month, before deciding whether to continue on MIUI path or moved to AOSP-ish path.
Then last month, ARP hit the deck. I immediately try to save myself from the trap and have decided to move to AOSP-ish and never looked back. Even though there are firmwareless ROM available before I switch, but the decision is final and I move to RR, never look back. Ironic, Xiaomi probably using ARP to scare the users to stay at MIUI, but in my case, it scares me away from MIUI.
I am now at RR 6.1 20180723, experiencing high battery drain during deep sleep if wifi connected. I am thinking to switch to bootlegger ROM, which has customization almost as complete as RR, if the drain persist. Even then, not a single thought I will go back to MIUI. If this bug is solved, I can easily achieve the same SOT I got in MIUI. Sure I lose some MIUI features such as long screenshot, dual apps feature and maybe other. Long screenshot can be done using 3rd party app. Dual apps too, but I don't use it, so I don't miss it. In exchange, I have much more customization I can do here, so no reason to lookback at MIUI anymore.
Sorry to say this, but all gesture implementation so far is still inferior. GMD gesture has been doing this since several years ago. I wish google will adopt it last time when they decide to use gesture navigation. It is one of the reason I still root till dates, totally worth it. So if it is gesture that makes you stay in MIUI, then you should try GMD gesture. You can use GMD gesture to completely mimic the same gesture you use in MIUI or any other ROM. You can even create your own custom path or record gesture. I don't use any gesture feature from the RR, as GMD gesture is much better. The impact to battery life is almost negligible, as I have stated in other post. (I have Automagic & GMD gesture running 24/7, and still easily achieve 10+ hours SOT in MIUI 9.5.x.0).
One minus though as I have experienced recently. For certain games, we need to exclude it from GMD gesture. Or the multitouch event will be consumed by GMD gesture and never sent to the game. So far, in all other app, it is working fine. But I am not the one who go full gesture. I use them both. I still use navbar along with gesture.
As for Android Pie, we are reaching the stage where updating the OS version only give minor changes to the user experience. Sure, usually it is better, but almost not noticeable anymore for most users. Especially if you use Custom ROM, most of the features have been there already. So I won't push the dev, just let them have their own schedule to pick the Pie ROM. I would rather have a stable minimum bug Oreo ROM, than buggy Pie ROM. Battery life probably won't change much, as it is mostly affected by kernel. Unless it is the ROM that have bug and drain too much (as in most LOS based ROM currently, wifi deep sleep drain).
To wait for MIUI based on Pie, maybe we need to wait until next year, MIUI 11. And by the time it is based on Pie, you probably won't notice any pie feature there, as it is overlayed by the MIUI. So if you choose the MIUI path, don't hold your breath for android Pie.

rom development for pxl3

Haven't had a g phone since nexus ended.
How fast has rom development happened on previous pixel?
Coming from p20 pro and honestly this is the least excited I ever been for a new phone ??*
But exited to rom flash ?

As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.

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As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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This phone seems a little easier than 2XL.

sn0warmy said:
As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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Wow. Not what I wanted to hear and remember from the nexus days. Memory is getting foggy but I felt like kernels and ROMs were out BEFORE release of the devices..
Either I remember it wrong or the scene had truly faded ?
At this stage I almost feel like getting an iPhone for the same price with better memory management and faster app delivery.
Crazy thought ?

i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then

frewys said:
Wow. Not what I wanted to hear and remember from the nexus days. Memory is getting foggy but I felt like kernels and ROMs were out BEFORE release of the devices..
Either I remember it wrong or the scene had truly faded ...
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It's not so much that the "scene has faded". It's more that Android has come a long way over the past couple of years. The big features people used to have to root to get are now baked right into stock Android. I'd argue that this is actually a great thing for Android. In fact, again referencing the Pixel 2 XL ROMs, you'll be hard pressed to find any ROM in that sub-forum that offers much more over stock Android other than being 'debloated' (as if the stock ROM has much bloat to begin with...) with a couple little features here and there.
Don't get me wrong, there are still solid reasons to at least unlock the bootloader. For instance, custom kernels like Franco or Elemental X still provide notable performance/battery life improvements over the stock kernel. And those should start becoming available for the 3 XL within a couple of weeks, if the timeline is similar to that of the previous Pixel line-ups.
And many people still love to tinker with Magisk modules for various add-ons. I don't do this, personally but Magisk is already available and if modules aren't ready yet, they will be shortly.
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At this stage I almost feel like getting an iPhone for the same price with better memory management and faster app delivery.
Crazy thought ?
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To each their own. I had a stint with the iPhone X between my 2 XL and OnePlus 6. The build quality of that phone is simply phenomenal. The speakers are fantastic and the haptic feedback engine is on a different level. But IOS is still just as locked down as it has ever been. I just couldn't get myself to fully enjoy IOS so I moved back to Android pretty quick. If you're looking for a phone that you can root/tinker with, the iPhone absolutely is not a good option for you.

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It's not so much that the "scene has faded". It's more that Android has come a long way over the past couple of years. The big features people used to have to root to get are now baked right into stock Android. I'd argue that this is actually a great thing for Android. In fact, again referencing the Pixel 2 XL ROMs, you'll be hard pressed to find any ROM in that sub-forum that offers much more over stock Android other than being 'debloated' (as if the stock ROM has much bloat to begin with...) with a couple little features here and there.
Don't get me wrong, there are still solid reasons to root. For instance, custom kernels like Franco or Elemental X still provide notable performance/battery life improvements over the stock kernel. And those should start becoming available for the 3 XL within a couple of weeks, if the timeline is similar to that of the previous Pixel line-ups.
And many people still love to tinker with Magisk modules for various add-ons. I don't do this, personally but Magisk is already available and if modules aren't ready yet, they will be shortly.
To each their own. I had a stint with the iPhone X between my 2 XL and OnePlus 6. The build quality of that phone is simply phenomenal. The speakers are fantastic and the haptic feedback engine is on a different level. But IOS is still just as locked down as it has ever been. I just couldn't get myself to fully enjoy IOS so I moved back to Android pretty quick. If you're looking for a phone that you can root/tinker with, the iPhone absolutely is not a good option for you.
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That's the beauty of Android. Choose your own setup. And that is why I am on android. I miss way to much customization to enjoy the vanilla experience.
I know this goes against the common sense but almost like emui more that I am on my p20 pro. It's bloated but it has RAM to handle it.
Truly miss the madness of the xposed booming too. Now there is hardly anything worth or at least very limited reason to go exposed and risk stability..
Haven't been on ios since 3gs but the walled garden was the reason I left. I know it hasn't changed but since I am staying more and more on stock so that's why I am thinking ios ??*

Just a guess....
Now that root is here, I'd guess two more weeks till TWRP drops.
Three weeks before custom stock ROM's start to show up.
And five-six weeks before the first beta non-supported Lineage OS ROM shows up.
Seven-eight weeks before the first non LOS custom ROM shows up.
Two and a half months before a really special, kick-ass fully-optioned custom ROM shows up.
Three-four months till a supported LOS ROM drops.
Like I said, just a guess.

dipstik said:
i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then
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How did you get lmt pie working may I ask?

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How did you get lmt pie working may I ask?
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What's the problem? Just installed the apk.
I'm actually good with rooted stock these days, but I'd love a good kernel.

Lmt works? That's funny because I got my PXL3 last week and didn't setup yet because I need nav menu bar. As you I miss smartbar. Can't wait.
dipstik said:
i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then
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Chronzy said:
What's the problem? Just installed the apk.
I'm actually good with rooted stock these days, but I'd love a good kernel.
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I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.

And substratum lol gotta have the dark ui
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I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.
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I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.
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I see what you're saying, I only use it on the side. I believe you can hide it with substratum like mentioned, but I've never tried it.

CZ Eddie said:
Just a guess....
Now that root is here, I'd guess two more weeks till TWRP drops.
Three weeks before custom stock ROM's start to show up.
And five-six weeks before the first beta non-supported Lineage OS ROM shows up.
Seven-eight weeks before the first non LOS custom ROM shows up.
Two and a half months before a really special, kick-ass fully-optioned custom ROM shows up.
Three-four months till a supported LOS ROM drops.
Like I said, just a guess.
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CZ is the MAN!
Stock with a good kernel like Flash and maybe a tuning script is all I need. Then this phone will be perfect for me...
Kernels will appear next week, guessing....
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

sn0warmy said:
As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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good to see you around these parts!
I agree with everything you just said.
Coming from OP6 i didn't even feel the need to flash a new rom.
Magisk + modules was good enough. the most I flashed was a kernel lolz

Is beta 3 stable enough for daily use

It's been out for a while now, was wondering if it is stable enough for daily use. I've tried to search but there isn't a tread on actual stability for daily use. Thanks

beta 4 should be out in a few days, may as well wait.

I had beta 3 on my 3XL, but reverted back to Pie. Phone was always running uncomfortably hot and the battery seemed to drain fairly quickly. Last night, I shut my phone completely off at 30%. This morning, I tried to power it on and it was completely drained. I placed it on the pixel stand and it showed that I had 0% battery. After reverting back to Pie, the phone no longer runs hot.

It is for me.

It ran very smooth for me but I couldn't live without root, so I went back to Pie.
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I was getting FC with a high amount of apps

It's been running fine for me. A few little glitches such as the display not turning on when I lift the phone, but that is more of an irritation than a reason to not use it. Although as stated earlier, beta 4 will drop in a few days, so might as well wait for that.

For the most part it's good. The real big issue I've had is the snapchat/camera bug. I'll take a snap, and it'll turn all pixelated and everything, close it, then try again and it says the camera is not responding, and if you go to the camera app it doesn't work either. Great camera, but its glitchy as all hell.

ok its been a day since I installed beta 3 and yes its running fine , battery life seems better as well. I use my work for work with work emails and I don't feel like reverting back. Android Q is pretty awesome. I have noticed Netflix working but there are screen jitters.
My honest suggestion is to wait for beta 4 which should have completed most of the errors.

nomaramon said:
I was getting FC with a high amount of apps
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This is the one thing I agree with so far. A LOT of my normal apps just either won't run or randomly close. Just basic apps and the known issue with having syncing issues with banking apps is really hard to take.

Been on since the 1st beta, been stable enough for my usage this far.

I have come back on foot, it is slow, there are many failures, especially with Google services, etc ...to see beta 4 that will come out soon

I have been running the Beta and no issues works fine for me as daily driver.

I've never had any force closing of any of my apps on beta 3. Then again, I did do a clean install of it.

Works pretty much perfectly for me. No FC of apps, very fast and the battery life is great. I DID wipe on P before taking the beta 2 update, then took the 3 OTA. I think going dirty from P to Q is what is causing so many problems for people. I would definitely wipe either on P or when you grab Q. Normally I would say on P, then setup all apps since that helps a ton with them working correctly on early betas, but, 4 should work with most apps at this point.
The only thing I'm not entirely happy with is the full gestures. The partial swipe up and hold for recents kind of sucks. I have to turn it off then on again daily to keep it working. Also, I think full/quick swipe up should be for recents, and either a second swipe or the swipe and hold for apps. The former is how it works on 2 button and it's soooo much better.

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I've never had any force closing of any of my apps on beta 3. Then again, I did do a clean install of it.
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I got my pixel 3 xl
I updated to beta 3 before installing any applications or even restoring from the play store
I get numerous force close on many applications repeatedly some not even starting at all.
Banking apps by and large fail to work.

I've just received the beta 4 update ?

Been on the beta since the first one was released on my daily driver. No serious issues at all. Beta 4 is almost the final version (final API:s) of Android 10.
It's snappier than Pie ever was and the gestures are great.

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Been on the beta since the first one was released on my daily driver. No serious issues at all. Beta 4 is almost the final version (final API:s) of Android 10.
It's snappier than Pie ever was and the gestures are great.
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its good.. minus so many ppl bootlooping that google had to postpone its release lol

What are differences between OS 10.0.1 and 10 Beta 3?

Hello guys,
Im new on this phone. im confused i have some question.
Some of news websites say that the Official OS 10 for OP7 series will be released this month.. what does that mean ?
now i have 10.0.1 and Beta 3 was released 2-3 days ago why ?
what are differences between 10.0.1 and 10 beta 3?
can you explain it guys ?

10.0.1 is stable...
The beta program showcases potential features and fixes that could be merged into stable.

Beta 3 is a work in progress...

For those of us who know what Beta software is, can anyone give detailed differences?
I'm getting frustrated with the Android auto bugs (resets theme every time you connect, randomly disconnects). Hoping they're fixed in beta 3?

skymera said:
10.0.1 is stable...
The beta program showcases potential features and fixes that could be merged into stable.
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Super helpful post here defining a beta and stable.
You really think the Op didn't know the technical differences of the 2 definitions?
Come on man, he's obviously asking about specific features. Saying this **** isn't helpful.

Imyeltekin said:
Hello guys,
Im new on this phone. im confused i have some question.
Some of news websites say that the Official OS 10 for OP7 series will be released this month.. what does that mean ?
now i have 10.0.1 and Beta 3 was released 2-3 days ago why ?
what are differences between 10.0.1 and 10 beta 3?
can you explain it guys ?
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I'll be honest, I completely missed Beta 3. Just hopped on 10.0.1. I'll switch back to beta at 4

xxBrun0xx said:
For those of us who know what Beta software is, can anyone give detailed differences?
I'm getting frustrated with the Android auto bugs (resets theme every time you connect, randomly disconnects). Hoping they're fixed in beta 3?
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After having tried both the beta 3 (What I'm currently using) as well as 10.0.1 they are the same, except for a few testing features. There is a new work balance mode that randomly appears disappears in the quicksettings menu. I think it's supposed to be India only. The Android auto theme bug isn't fixed. There's also some minor crash fixes for SUPER specific situations, like what's app notification settings causing crashes. There's also a few new options with Zen mode and game mode. Mostly just experimental stuff

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