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Lollipop users...why aren't you switching to Marshmallow (or vice-versa) ?

I'm just curious about some of my fellow longtime VZW M8 users and why they may be sticking with Lollipop instead of making the jump to Marshmallow.
I've been running MM for 4-5 months now and I'm not a huge fan of it. I've been having some performance issues with the stock/OTA builds and have maybe only now found a workable ROM in the NuSenSeveN build.
There isn't too much I see even in a properly functioning MM that really makes me jump to abandon LP.
For those of you still on LP you have probably noticed that any version of Google Maps released in the past year or so basically locks up your entire phone (some custom ROMS maybe don't experience this?) ...that is one of the prime motivators for me to switch.
I also miss little things in LP...like the fact that the flashlight had 3 brightness settings and there seems to be no way to get that back in Marshmallow.
We are getting to that point where development is at a slow trickle and no real new options will probably be introduced for this phone. I'm trying to settle down on my "final build" to carry me for the next 6-18 months until I am force to get a new phone.
Curious as to other's experiences...

rom development for pxl3

Haven't had a g phone since nexus ended.
How fast has rom development happened on previous pixel?
Coming from p20 pro and honestly this is the least excited I ever been for a new phone ??*
But exited to rom flash ?

As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.

sn0warmy said:
As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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This phone seems a little easier than 2XL.

sn0warmy said:
As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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Wow. Not what I wanted to hear and remember from the nexus days. Memory is getting foggy but I felt like kernels and ROMs were out BEFORE release of the devices..
Either I remember it wrong or the scene had truly faded ?
At this stage I almost feel like getting an iPhone for the same price with better memory management and faster app delivery.
Crazy thought ?

i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then

frewys said:
Wow. Not what I wanted to hear and remember from the nexus days. Memory is getting foggy but I felt like kernels and ROMs were out BEFORE release of the devices..
Either I remember it wrong or the scene had truly faded ...
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It's not so much that the "scene has faded". It's more that Android has come a long way over the past couple of years. The big features people used to have to root to get are now baked right into stock Android. I'd argue that this is actually a great thing for Android. In fact, again referencing the Pixel 2 XL ROMs, you'll be hard pressed to find any ROM in that sub-forum that offers much more over stock Android other than being 'debloated' (as if the stock ROM has much bloat to begin with...) with a couple little features here and there.
Don't get me wrong, there are still solid reasons to at least unlock the bootloader. For instance, custom kernels like Franco or Elemental X still provide notable performance/battery life improvements over the stock kernel. And those should start becoming available for the 3 XL within a couple of weeks, if the timeline is similar to that of the previous Pixel line-ups.
And many people still love to tinker with Magisk modules for various add-ons. I don't do this, personally but Magisk is already available and if modules aren't ready yet, they will be shortly.
frewys said:
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At this stage I almost feel like getting an iPhone for the same price with better memory management and faster app delivery.
Crazy thought ?
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To each their own. I had a stint with the iPhone X between my 2 XL and OnePlus 6. The build quality of that phone is simply phenomenal. The speakers are fantastic and the haptic feedback engine is on a different level. But IOS is still just as locked down as it has ever been. I just couldn't get myself to fully enjoy IOS so I moved back to Android pretty quick. If you're looking for a phone that you can root/tinker with, the iPhone absolutely is not a good option for you.

sn0warmy said:
It's not so much that the "scene has faded". It's more that Android has come a long way over the past couple of years. The big features people used to have to root to get are now baked right into stock Android. I'd argue that this is actually a great thing for Android. In fact, again referencing the Pixel 2 XL ROMs, you'll be hard pressed to find any ROM in that sub-forum that offers much more over stock Android other than being 'debloated' (as if the stock ROM has much bloat to begin with...) with a couple little features here and there.
Don't get me wrong, there are still solid reasons to root. For instance, custom kernels like Franco or Elemental X still provide notable performance/battery life improvements over the stock kernel. And those should start becoming available for the 3 XL within a couple of weeks, if the timeline is similar to that of the previous Pixel line-ups.
And many people still love to tinker with Magisk modules for various add-ons. I don't do this, personally but Magisk is already available and if modules aren't ready yet, they will be shortly.
To each their own. I had a stint with the iPhone X between my 2 XL and OnePlus 6. The build quality of that phone is simply phenomenal. The speakers are fantastic and the haptic feedback engine is on a different level. But IOS is still just as locked down as it has ever been. I just couldn't get myself to fully enjoy IOS so I moved back to Android pretty quick. If you're looking for a phone that you can root/tinker with, the iPhone absolutely is not a good option for you.
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That's the beauty of Android. Choose your own setup. And that is why I am on android. I miss way to much customization to enjoy the vanilla experience.
I know this goes against the common sense but almost like emui more that I am on my p20 pro. It's bloated but it has RAM to handle it.
Truly miss the madness of the xposed booming too. Now there is hardly anything worth or at least very limited reason to go exposed and risk stability..
Haven't been on ios since 3gs but the walled garden was the reason I left. I know it hasn't changed but since I am staying more and more on stock so that's why I am thinking ios ??*

Just a guess....
Now that root is here, I'd guess two more weeks till TWRP drops.
Three weeks before custom stock ROM's start to show up.
And five-six weeks before the first beta non-supported Lineage OS ROM shows up.
Seven-eight weeks before the first non LOS custom ROM shows up.
Two and a half months before a really special, kick-ass fully-optioned custom ROM shows up.
Three-four months till a supported LOS ROM drops.
Like I said, just a guess.

dipstik said:
i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then
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How did you get lmt pie working may I ask?

in_dmand said:
How did you get lmt pie working may I ask?
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What's the problem? Just installed the apk.
I'm actually good with rooted stock these days, but I'd love a good kernel.

Lmt works? That's funny because I got my PXL3 last week and didn't setup yet because I need nav menu bar. As you I miss smartbar. Can't wait.
dipstik said:
i miss smartbar so much right now... lmt is keeping me going until then
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Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Chronzy said:
What's the problem? Just installed the apk.
I'm actually good with rooted stock these days, but I'd love a good kernel.
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I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.

And substratum lol gotta have the dark ui
in_dmand said:
I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.
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in_dmand said:
I did too but couldn't get the stock navbar to go away and let lmt work at the bottom of the screen... It would only work on the side.
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I see what you're saying, I only use it on the side. I believe you can hide it with substratum like mentioned, but I've never tried it.

CZ Eddie said:
Just a guess....
Now that root is here, I'd guess two more weeks till TWRP drops.
Three weeks before custom stock ROM's start to show up.
And five-six weeks before the first beta non-supported Lineage OS ROM shows up.
Seven-eight weeks before the first non LOS custom ROM shows up.
Two and a half months before a really special, kick-ass fully-optioned custom ROM shows up.
Three-four months till a supported LOS ROM drops.
Like I said, just a guess.
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CZ is the MAN!
Stock with a good kernel like Flash and maybe a tuning script is all I need. Then this phone will be perfect for me...
Kernels will appear next week, guessing....
Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

sn0warmy said:
As the prices for the Pixel phones have gone up, it seems the development for them has taken longer to ramp up. However, if you look at the 2 XL forums you'll see plenty of ROM, Magisk and kernel options. It just took a couple of months to really build.
I imagine it will be the same in this case. Over the next couple of weeks you'll see a ROM or two trickle in, along with a kernel or two. But give it a 2-3 months before things really start to scale up.
Also keep in mind that Android in 2018 is NOTHING like Android in 2012, or even Android in 2016. In stock form the Pixel with Android 9.0 is missing very little to be desired and is very well optimized. So I find myself enjoying it thoroughly in stock form until a good high quality kernel comes around. But the days of ROM flashing are behind me, for the most part.
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good to see you around these parts!
I agree with everything you just said.
Coming from OP6 i didn't even feel the need to flash a new rom.
Magisk + modules was good enough. the most I flashed was a kernel lolz

Best and most stable ROM with features working beyond 7.1.2?

Im on a 7.1.2 ROM and its getting real buggy so its time I wipe and switch to a new ROM, preferably newer than 7.1.2
Look, I understand the outdated "test and see which is best" but my phone is for my job and I work all day so I can't be with a buggy phone and be testing, wiping, etc. every day/hours; I need a working phone and stable features. Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
* Bluetooth hands free MUST work.
* GPS must work
* Camera and its flashlight must work
* Data (4G/WiFi) must work
* I need battery life to maintain a stable level; I can't be carrying powerbanks or stuff like that.
* Responsive; The phone is showing its age but it must be able to keep doing simple tasks as fluid as it can
What do you recommend?
Thanks

A new phone.

riahc3 said:
Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
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philash_flash said:
A new phone.
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Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
riahc3 said:
Im on a 7.1.2 ROM and its getting real buggy so its time I wipe and switch to a new ROM, preferably newer than 7.1.2
Look, I understand the outdated "test and see which is best" but my phone is for my job and I work all day so I can't be with a buggy phone and be testing, wiping, etc. every day/hours; I need a working phone and stable features. Switching phones and/or a iPhone are currently options Im not looking at.
* Bluetooth hands free MUST work.
* GPS must work
* Camera and its flashlight must work
* Data (4G/WiFi) must work
* I need battery life to maintain a stable level; I can't be carrying powerbanks or stuff like that.
* Responsive; The phone is showing its age but it must be able to keep doing simple tasks as fluid as it can
What do you recommend?
Thanks
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7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead

McAwesomePL said:
Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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I'm currently on 7.1.2. Just wanna ask a few questions to know if it's stable enough for me to get into.
1) I play lotta PUBG. How is gaming performance on this device?
2) How is the audio performance? I use ViperFX.
3) What's the camera quality like?

adityabanerjee1303 said:
I'm currently on 7.1.2. Just wanna ask a few questions to know if it's stable enough for me to get into.
1) I play lotta PUBG. How is gaming performance on this device?
2) How is the audio performance? I use ViperFX.
3) What's the camera quality like?
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1. Don't play PUBG, so I can't really tell, but it should be similar to how it performs on your current ROM I believe.
2. I don't use AudioFX, but both wired and BT audio seems to work just as well as on Oreo (...which for me was a better experience than the one on Nougat).
3. Decent, again, nothing out of the ordinary, just your usual 4 y/o phone custom ROM experience. It's not buggy though, if that's what you're asking

philash_flash said:
A new phone.
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You might want to invest either in new glasses or english reading lessons because you seem not to be able to read.

McAwesomePL said:
Thank you so much for your much needed constructive feedback, Mr. Helpful.
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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Great post. Ill check out the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/orig-development/rom-posp-v2-0-beta-t3830896

McAwesomePL said:
7.1.2? Man, you've been missing out! Oreo's been great since it became stable on bacon. And now there's Pie and it's even greater! There are quite a few ROMs based on it available right now, and pretty much all of them are more or less stable, but personally I'd recommend you go with POSP 2.0 - a stable build of it has just been released a few days ago, too, so make sure to check out the changelog as well. It's buttery smooth, rock-stable, everything you mentioned should work flawlessly and it even has features like OnePlus' faceunlock, which is awesome. Of course, there might be some really minor issues here and there, but it's nothing nowhere near as serious as WiFi not working or broken GPS, so don't worry.
In the end, OnePlus One might be an old phone, but its devs aren't any less talented than they were and the development is far from dead
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I just read thru all 79 pages of that ROM; That ROM is alpha at best.
Hotspot not working
GPS is glitchy
Lag
etc.
I need something stable.

riahc3 said:
I just read thru all 79 pages of that ROM; That ROM is alpha at best.
Hotspot not working
GPS is glitchy
Lag
etc.
I need something stable.
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Eh. If you didn't know, this ROM's been the first Pie ROM for bacon. What you've read through is a discussion about it since its very beginning, while the stable version has been released much later. I'm happy with what I'm using - no lags for me, and the GPS works fine. Your call though.
Also, there's no reason to be rude to people in the POSP thread just because some things don't work in your case. Wi-Fi hotspot is pretty much the only noticeable bug at this moment (it does work, just under specific conditions), while for me and the vast majority of people everything else works well. Not to mention that calling others kids is certainly not a mature behavior. Developers are building ROMs when they're free, for free, and sharing them with others, even though it's hard work. Their hard work. It's not a service you pay for that magically allows you to demand whatever you want - if you don't like it, don't use it and go make your own ROM instead of bashing everyone around since you seem to know better.

Honestly it's a bit of a stretch to be asking for a fully featured and stable version of Pie on this phone this early anyway. I'd suggest you just stick to Oreo for the time being anyway. Google changed a bunch of **** for Pie for no good reason and made the whole experience slower, less intuitive and more Apple-like. You missed out on Oreo, so just install a nightly official build of LineageOS 15 or something and enjoy the customised and optimised experience of a mature operating system.

yesiateyoursheep said:
Honestly it's a bit of a stretch to be asking for a fully featured and stable version of Pie on this phone this early anyway. I'd suggest you just stick to Oreo for the time being anyway. Google changed a bunch of **** for Pie for no good reason and made the whole experience slower, less intuitive and more Apple-like. You missed out on Oreo, so just install a nightly official build of LineageOS 15 or something and enjoy the customised and optimised experience of a mature operating system.
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I neved asked for Pie. At best, you can understand I asked for Oreo (which would have been nice but).

Official LineageOS 15.1
I've been using forked LineageOS 15.1 from microg, with microg built-in, and it's running smooth, no complaints at all. The official version should be better than the Forked version isn't it?

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Still waiting for a true ROM that is made for daily, with no worries about bugs or anything.

Guys here don't seem to understand the meaning of the term "stable" - just because something is free, that doesn't mean i can call my beta stable.
I am currently on Official LOS 15.1 - and it is a pain in the ass to use my phone at the moment. It lags on every user interaction, and if i use it too fast , it restarts. Also BT is buggy, sometimes it just disconnects and doesn't work anymore, even if i restart my phone, i must remove the device from the list and reconnect - which is, in case of connecting to alexa, a doubled pain in the ass because the alexa app laggs ultra hard.
@riahc3 On which Rom are you currently? Did you find a stable before 7.1? From what i recall, i didn't find a stable 6 with working quick charge - which is a requirement, i do not have the time to load my phone about 5 hours in the middle of the day, what i found i must do with each rom i tested.

arrows 9.0 + franco kernel r56 + google camera
seems stable. battery life moderate.

se7enlyn said:
arrows 9.0 + franco kernel r56 + google camera
seems stable. battery life moderate.
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which google camera version?

Still waiting.

Probably tried 15+ different ROMs over the years of owning my OPO.
Only ROMs I've ever used that worked without issue are Sultanxda's, but because he's just one guy he can't devote a lot of time to it, so it's still being maintained on 7.1.2. I've been using Sultan's ROMs for probably 2+ years now and forgot what a dumpster fire the rest of the ROM community is, and made the mistake of trying the official Lineage 16.0 build. The fact that the ONLY downloads available were a weeks worth of nightly builds should've set off alarm bells in my head, but I ignored it and went ahead because I wanted to try 9.0. Huge mistake. Wifi takes TEN minutes to connect or reconnect to a network, and mobile data only works for the first 5 minutes after booting before dying, forcing you to hard reset every 5 minutes to use mobile data.
At this point, I'm going back to Sultan's ROMs and never looking back. Whenever he decides to drop his OPO project, that'll be the same day I drop my OPO. Actually have a work phone as well that's an iPhone 8 and I wish those things supported third party ROMs, because that turd just gets slower and buggier each passing month, dropped calls, no data, broken wifi, broken video chat, it's like paying a premium to get a hobby phone. I hope to god Microsoft wakes up and comes back to the mobile space, it seems they're the only company on the planet that knows how to put out an OS that actually works, and can properly maintain it with regular updates. In the end I'll probably end up getting a Pixel 2 or something if I want a usable phone.

jm206 said:
Probably tried 15+ different ROMs over the years of owning my OPO
Only ROMs I've ever used that worked without issue are Sultanxda's, but because he's just one guy he can't devote a lot of time to it, so it's still being maintained on 7.1.2. I've been using Sultan's ROMs for probably 2+ years now and forgot what a dumpster fire the rest of the ROM community is, and made the mistake of trying the official Lineage 16.0 build. The fact that the ONLY downloads available were a weeks worth of nightly builds should've set off alarm bells in my head, but I ignored it and went ahead because I wanted to try 9.0. Huge mistake. Wifi takes TEN minutes to connect or reconnect to a network, and mobile data only works for the first 5 minutes after booting before dying, forcing you to hard reset every 5 minutes to use mobile data.
At this point, I'm going back to Sultan's ROMs and never looking back. Whenever he decides to drop his OPO project, that'll be the same day I drop my OPO. Actually have a work phone as well that's an iPhone 8 and I wish those things supported third party ROMs, because that turd just gets slower and buggier each passing month, dropped calls, no data, broken wifi, broken video chat, it's like paying a premium to get a hobby phone. I hope to god Microsoft wakes up and comes back to the mobile space, it seems they're the only company on the planet that knows how to put out an OS that actually works, and can properly maintain it with regular updates. In the end I'll probably end up getting a Pixel 2 or something if I want a usable phone.
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Please do not take it too much to myself, which I will write now.
From your post I conclude that you have excessive requirements for ROMs, which are actually made by amateurs-hobbyists.
Despite the seemingly correct theses, in my opinion your entry is of no value because you were not active in this forum in reporting bugs and patches to the ROM.

Flash PixelExperience in Redmi Note 7 Pro without VOIDING Warranty

Is there any way to flash PixelExperience in my new Redmi Note 7 Pro without VOIDING the Warranty??
Pls help me out if there is a way.
Thanks

Your warranty is not void if you unlock the bootloader officially . You can root it without any problem. But be careful while using the phone , if its your mistake that you damaged your device, Mi may not be able to repair under warranty.
I have used the service of Mi under warranty more than 3 times and my phone is unlocked and rooted. But they were different scenarios and i don't see these cases of my negligence. All were hardware issues which can be seen normal in many locked devices too.

gursewak.10 said:
Your warranty is not void if you unlock the bootloader officially . You can root it without any problem. But be careful while using the phone , if its your mistake that you damaged your device, Mi may not be able to repair under warranty.
I have used the service of Mi under warranty more than 3 times and my phone is unlocked and rooted. But they were different scenarios and i don't see these cases of my negligence. All were hardware issues which can be seen normal in many locked devices too.
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Are you on MIUI or any custom ROM??

marky_II said:
Are you on MIUI or any custom ROM??
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Well today, now i am on xiaomi.eu, 2 hrs before i was on cesium os. But i get back to xiaomi.eu cause i like it as i like miui and this rom removes bloatware from miui and add some tweaks too.
So overall its good more customized miui.
If you ask which rom i have used till now in violet
RR, PE, CESIUM, MIUIPRO, HAVOC, ION, SUPERIOR, CRDROID, DOT, OOS(PORT)
Overall most of the roms i have tested both android 9 and 10 (most have both versions and tested both). But came back to miui cause my requirement was not met as i needed inbuilt call recording and app lock, fingerprint, facelock.
I hate external ones cause they don't work upto the mark and can't compete with miui in this case(from my point of view)
There are new ROMs being built daily but no one cares to add something new, just one or two tweaks and will change theme and add or remove some functions and will be released with a new name[i am not hurting anyone] but seriously its happening i can take the names of roms which are almost same but names are different cause developers are different. You will also see many roms will have same bugs too. [eg. Network Switching]
[I fully respect the developer's work and their hard time committed to our phone's development.]

Yeah, miui.eu has been my daily driver since trying out many roms from my RN5 Pro days. In terms of stability and functionality, miui.eu rules. Cant understand the popularity of Pixel Exp, its a crap rom in comparison imo. I guess people just want something different and thats why they go for it.

gursewak.10 said:
Well today, now i am on xiaomi.eu, 2 hrs before i was on cesium os. But i get back to xiaomi.eu cause i like it as i like miui and this rom removes bloatware from miui and add some tweaks too.
So overall its good more customized miui.
If you ask which rom i have used till now in violet
RR, PE, CESIUM, MIUIPRO, HAVOC, ION, SUPERIOR, CRDROID, DOT, OOS(PORT)
Overall most of the roms i have tested both android 9 and 10 (most have both versions and tested both). But came back to miui cause my requirement was not met as i needed inbuilt call recording and app lock, fingerprint, facelock.
I hate external ones cause they don't work upto the mark and can't compete with miui in this case(from my point of view)
There are new ROMs being built daily but no one cares to add something new, just one or two tweaks and will change theme and add or remove some functions and will be released with a new name[i am not hurting anyone] but seriously its happening i can take the names of roms which are almost same but names are different cause developers are different. You will also see many roms will have same bugs too. [eg. Network Switching]
[I fully respect the developer's work and their hard time committed to our phone's development.]
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Agreed ,but a huge reason why these ROM's win over MIUI is basically Performance and a clean UI. The Pixel exclusive features help a lot as well. Also the lack of custom kernels for MIUI is a factor. Well using Magisk+EdXposed you could get the same level of app lock and call recording...

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Agreed ,but a huge reason why these ROM's win over MIUI is basically Performance and a clean UI. The Pixel exclusive features help a lot as well. Also the lack of custom kernels for MIUI is a factor. Well using Magisk+EdXposed you could get the same level of app lock and call recording...
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Yes, but i am using miui.eu, its working smooth and playing pubg mobile, never get any lag , moreover the magisk+xposed can compete miui call recording but applock of miui is far better as its fully integrated with system whereas other applocks are not much secured compared to miui one.
Pixel experience is a good rom but you can see the no. Of roms being released with mostly same features but different themes but instead of this 2 or more these developers get together and make one rom with combined features. As it may also be less buggy.

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Yes, but i am using miui.eu, its working smooth and playing pubg mobile, never get any lag , moreover the magisk+xposed can compete miui call recording but applock of miui is far better as its fully integrated with system whereas other applocks are not much secured compared to miui one.
Pixel experience is a good rom but you can see the no. Of roms being released with mostly same features but different themes but instead of this 2 or more these developers get together and make one rom with combined features. As it may also be less buggy.
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Yeepp. But I disagree with the applock statement. We don't know what sort of protection MIUI uses whereas apps like MaxLock is open source, consumed negligible battery and gives you 512 bit encryption along with various advanced options if needed.

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Yeepp. But I disagree with the applock statement. We don't know what sort of protection MIUI uses whereas apps like MaxLock is open source, consumed negligible battery and gives you 512 bit encryption along with various advanced options if needed.
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Okay, i haven't used it but most of the applocks ,will work when the app has been opened and it will be shown for some milliseconds and then it will draw itself over the app.

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Okay, i haven't used it but most of the applocks ,will work when the app has been opened and it will be shown for some milliseconds and then it will draw itself over the app.
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Oh that's why this one uses EdXposed/Root. It detects the launch of specific apps, rather than running all the time and there's no way to bypass it.
But there are some troubles running it in Android 10.

That's why i use miui? because if one problem is solved there is another problem which is ready to raise
Safety net
As with xposed safetynet will not pass...
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Oh that's why this one uses EdXposed/Root. It detects the launch of specific apps, rather than running all the time and there's no way to bypass it.
But there are some troubles running it in Android 10.
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Moreover i am confused why mi has not updated violet rom yet. Its almost 2 months now , no weekly china update.
Most of the phones has got 20.x.x developers update but violet is left behind till now.
May be they are ready to give Android 10 surprise?

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That's why i use miui? because if one problem is solved there is another problem which is ready to raise
Safety net
As with xposed safetynet will not pass...
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Moreover i am confused why mi has not updated violet rom yet. Its almost 2 months now , no weekly china update.
Most of the phones has got 20.x.x developers update but violet is left behind till now.
May be they are ready to give Android 10 surprise?
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lol...true

While Pixel roms gives clean UI, Miui.eu gives all the perks which other custom roms miss. I'm in same state as of OP as I actually need Call recorder, and App lock so miui.eu is the best choice. Its smooth, stable, bug-free. I can clearly compare 2 phones, one with stock miui and other with eu rom, EU win hands down any day. I haven't yet found a custom rom with all miui perks and pixel ui. I will happy switch if anyone makes that.

Poco F1 Custom Roms

Hello guys,
we already are noticing how xiaomi is starting to lift her hand off our beloved Poco F1 to make us change device. but as users of this device,
we know this is very hard for most of us mostly because of budget reasons, and this device still has a lot of potential with SD845.
to counter xiaomi attempts, i am inviting you to write down suggestions of custom roms that you have used with some details like
how often the rom is getting updates, is it stable, does the devs keep fixing major bugs with updates, performance, battery life, bloatwares,
and why not suggest TWRP versions and kernels you are using.
i hope this thread gets some attention and let's keep using our beloved Poco F1.
peace.

I don't care about Xiaomi's MIUI updates anymore because custom roms are better, If you are new to custom roms I suggest you start with Lineage 17 as it is stable and smooth and It gets updates almost every month or less, If you want customizations you can try Pixel Experience Plus.
I've been using Awaken os based on Android 11 for three days now and I can recommend it also even though it's not fully stable.

Lineage is a solid choice for sure , arrow aint bad either ( very curious about the 11 build ) but for now i stick with CRdroid.
There are some very small minor issues there but compared to the mess of miui it's a laugh..

Honestly, they're all pretty lousy.
No offence to any Poco Devs here, we all know they do it for free, but just look at all the posts in Lineage OS recently - more and more bugs keep popping up.
They *are* weeklies, though - but we have no stable custom ROM's it seems because everyone just copies LOS DT and Devs don't have time to run CTS or VTS on their builds to make sure things actually work.
I think the key is to find a ROM that is being hand developed by someone who actually *uses* the ROM as their daily. Because right now it just seems like these are all blind builds or have only basic testing, e.g. "cool it boots, ready for release, bugs = you tell me" and they can't tackle all bugs because they're too busy or whatever.
Again, no disrespect intended - it just seems like many devs build ROM's for personal fun. And really I don't blame them, fixing stuff is generally way more boring than addin X trendy feature, right? [emoji14]
With that said, if you don't mind a pure AOSP experience with minimal mods, I've started work on an Android 11 GSI which I will be using *personally* and I intend to slowly add features over time. I will provide a custom modified vendor if I have to, to fix any GSI weirdness (despite that not being the direction Phh likes to go, Poco does some weird stuff of vendor last I checked which makes GSI's imperfect - but it's hopefully all things that I can fix). Note though that Magisk on Android 11 GSI's is not currently possible, though you can toggle root on/off with sooti's latest Dev work. My ultimate goal though is to make a ROM where I no longer need root, I'm personally exhausted with the SafetyNet vs Magisk arms race.
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So far I started with Pixel Experience, than switched for a year and few months with Lineage 16. Wich was good.
Now, I'm using Evolution X and very happy with it. The last firmware update was last september, so I recommend it.

iam using havoc for quiet some time, its got call recording, its pretty stable, got some issues with bluetooth(tws) connection and some very minor bugs. Havoc is my recommended rom.
The only feature i miss from miui ports roms is the dual statusbar.