Hi everyone, I was reading Huawei community forum and some people are saying that Huawei denied working with developers of Filmic Pro App. I really hope that's not true, because this camera could really use app like this. Does anyone have more info? Also there is info that they are working on Camera2API which will allow instaling this app, so I really don't know what to think.
I am replying to follow this topic, as well. Bought a P40 Pro and don't want to return it and don't want to jailbreak it in order to get Google Play Store just to get Filmic Pro, and it not work to it full capacity.
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Hi folks,
I am very interested in the P40 Pro, but as many others I am concerned on what will be missing when I would try to get along without GMS.
A few things have not been covered in the many documents and videos I checked, so maybe users already well versed in the Huawei Non-GMS way can help here
- I am using a 3rd party calendar (Calengoo), would this be able to sync to Google calendar without GMS? I specifically use Google calender in sync with my family, would that be possible without GMS?
- I assume all purchases (in-app or Pro versions) are directly linked to Google Playstore, so no way around without it - or is there a way (e.g. with Yalp)?
- access to Google Drive and specifically WhatsApp backups - any luck without GMS?
- syncing of Google Contacts (continously, not just one-time) without GMS - possible?
Please accept my apologies if all this has been answered elsewhere - in that case a short pointer would be much appreciated!
Thanks for your help,
Axel
not sure if you missed my post but everything you need for alternatives is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/how-to/google-alternatives-live-gms-t4081351
now you can make your life easier and just install gms on your phone so you can slowly transition from being without gms so your phone function like what you expect it to be.
Dear xnostra,
Thanks for your reply and the link to your excellent guide which I (of course) have seen and read and it indeed was one of the things that helped me much in understanding have to manoeuvre around lack of GMS.
My questions in the first post are not so much around software functionalities which can be replaced,as your guide indicates!
I was wondering whether some of the syncing (Calendar and contacts specifically) can also be done without GMS, using other apps for contacts and calendar to access my Google account.
Thanks,
Axel
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Dear xnostra,
Thanks for your reply and the link to your excellent guide which I (of course) have seen and read and it indeed was one of the things that helped me much in understanding have to manoeuvre around lack of GMS.
My questions in the first post are not so much around software functionalities which can be replaced,as your guide indicates!
I was wondering whether some of the syncing (Calendar and contacts specifically) can also be done without GMS, using other apps for contacts and calendar to access my Google account.
Thanks,
Axel
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hi sorry to make the answer short all the things you mention will not work without gms unfortunately. thats why as you see in my previous answer i mentioned ``to make your life easier just install gms`` before you install those apps youll need to install gms otherwise they will not work as expected.
I really really want a P40 Pro and could quite happily replace most of the things I use Google for (I was iCloud anyway for a long time) The 2 biggies though that I believe cannot be properly worked around are Google photos and Google pay.
It is really frustrating as I am very disappointed with my (Exynos) S20+ and the Pixel still falls short, the P40 is overwise terrific. I am actualluy thinking of picking up another P30 pro instead but then as I uderstand there are no guarantees that google support will remain on that either?
arsenal74 said:
I really really want a P40 Pro and could quite happily replace most of the things I use Google for (I was iCloud anyway for a long time) The 2 biggies though that I believe cannot be properly worked around are Google photos and Google pay.
It is really frustrating as I am very disappointed with my (Exynos) S20+ and the Pixel still falls short, the P40 is overwise terrific. I am actualluy thinking of picking up another P30 pro instead but then as I uderstand there are no guarantees that google support will remain on that either?
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p30 pro is not affected by the ban it will function as how its intended to from android updates google playstore and everything.
check my guide on finding alternative solution for your google apps its in the p40 guide section.
i had s20 ultra before i sold it after 5 days it was exynos and i feel scammed on it it functioned very bad compared to a snapdragon.
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p30 pro is not affected by the ban it will function as how its intended to from android updates google playstore and everything.
check my guide on finding alternative solution for your google apps its in the p40 guide section.
i had s20 ultra before i sold it after 5 days it was exynos and i feel scammed on it it functioned very bad compared to a snapdragon.
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I thought the P30 only still worked because of an extension and that extension was not guaranteed?
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s3axel said:
Hi folks,
I am very interested in the P40 Pro, but as many others I am concerned on what will be missing when I would try to get along without GMS.
A few things have not been covered in the many documents and videos I checked, so maybe users already well versed in the Huawei Non-GMS way can help here
- I am using a 3rd party calendar (Calengoo), would this be able to sync to Google calendar without GMS? I specifically use Google calender in sync with my family, would that be possible without GMS?
- I assume all purchases (in-app or Pro versions) are directly linked to Google Playstore, so no way around without it - or is there a way (e.g. with Yalp)?
- access to Google Drive and specifically WhatsApp backups - any luck without GMS?
- syncing of Google Contacts (continously, not just one-time) without GMS - possible?
Please accept my apologies if all this has been answered elsewhere - in that case a short pointer would be much appreciated!
Thanks for your help,
Axel
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I have P40 Pro for some time now and will share what I know to Your questions
-Phone Clone - moves nearly everything from my P30 pro to P40 including calendar data, call logs, contacts, sms etc. so the calendar is fine - but local!
-Purchased apps - I have several - they work (one is asking for some verification but nonintrusive ) of course No updates
-I did not try
-sure NOT
I was perfectly happy wit P30 Pro but both P40 Pro not only for camera But to try a world without GMS - It exists and works - but it's not the same - I missed Google Duo (I can install it from Amazon but can't connect), in a long term I expect some inconveniences - as I have some subscription apps and they'll expire eventually...
I think the prospect of android without the google services does actually have some appeal but I fear in real life losing things like photos, Netflix and Google pay would be frustrating.
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I think the prospect of android without the google services does actually have some appeal but I fear in real life losing things like photos, Netflix and Google pay would be frustrating.
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well some people just bought a cheap android which is everywhere nowdays if they really want to use full google capabilities and made their p40 pro their main device i mean different person different solutions. some people like me have an iphone 11 pro max and android so whichever doesnt work the other cn cover.
pesho00 said:
I have P40 Pro for some time now and will share what I know to Your questions
-Phone Clone - moves nearly everything from my P30 pro to P40 including calendar data, call logs, contacts, sms etc. so the calendar is fine - but local!
-Purchased apps - I have several - they work (one is asking for some verification but nonintrusive ) of course No updates
-I did not try
-sure NOT
I was perfectly happy wit P30 Pro but both P40 Pro not only for camera But to try a world without GMS - It exists and works - but it's not the same - I missed Google Duo (I can install it from Amazon but can't connect), in a long term I expect some inconveniences - as I have some subscription apps and they'll expire eventually...
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one member here manage to make google duo work he just reset his phone and used another guide to install gms and it worked for him.
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one member here manage to make google duo work he just reset his phone and used another guide to install gms and it worked for him.
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Sure, but my experiment is to live Without GMS and for now, life is good
I'm using P40 Lite (EMUI 10.1) but I can't find Private Space settings. I searched everywhere with no luck. Maybe it's a missing feature on the Lite.
Can somebody with P40 Pro confirm that Private Space exists on their phone (or not)?
cris2d2 said:
I'm using P40 Lite (EMUI 10.1) but I can't find Private Space settings. I searched everywhere with no luck. Maybe it's a missing feature on the Lite.
Can somebody with P40 Pro confirm that Private Space exists on their phone (or not)?
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I have it under 'settings' - 'privacy' - 'privatespace'.
Hope that helps
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I have it under 'settings' - 'privacy' - 'privatespace'.
Hope that helps
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On P40 Lite, there is no Private Space under Privacy Settings or elsewhere.
Maybe Huawei dropped out this feature from the Lite version.
I can't find any reliable information about this because XDA has no P40 Lite dedicated forum, that's why I asked on P40 Pro forum.
Thanks.
cris2d2 said:
On P40 Lite, there is no Private Space under Privacy Settings or elsewhere.
Maybe Huawei dropped out this feature from the Lite version.
I can't find any reliable information about this because XDA has no P40 Lite dedicated forum, that's why I asked on P40 Pro forum.
Thanks.
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Ah sorry to hear it!
I guess it was dropped for that model for whatever reason which is a shame as I don't use it and you clearly would like it so should have just been on both models.
cris2d2 said:
I'm using P40 Lite (EMUI 10.1) but I can't find Private Space settings. I searched everywhere with no luck. Maybe it's a missing feature on the Lite.
Can somebody with P40 Pro confirm that Private Space exists on their phone (or not)?
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other than the issue with the private space, how are you getting on with the device? ive yet to have a play on one.
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other than the issue with the private space, how are you getting on with the device? ive yet to have a play on one.
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To be honest, I quit using it a couple a months ago and passed it to my father (he really hates Google ecosystem). He needed to know if Private Space was there but he doesn't an XDA account.
I couldn't live without a few Google apps (and its services needed by third-party apps) that wouldn't run properly.
Other than this, the Lite is a wonderful piece of technology. I'm sure you'll find plenty of reviews on the web.
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To be honest, I quit using it a couple a months ago and passed it to my father (he really hates Google ecosystem). He needed to know if Private Space was there but he doesn't an XDA account.
I couldn't live without a few Google apps (and its services needed by third-party apps) that wouldn't run properly.
Other than this, the Lite is a wonderful piece of technology. I'm sure you'll find plenty of reviews on the web.
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I can confirm as well that there is no private space on the P40 lite, which really sucks!!!
Anybody knows weather the P40 lite 5G has it?
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I can confirm as well that there is no private space on the P40 lite, which really sucks!!!
Anybody knows weather the P40 lite 5G has it?
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I can answer my own question, as i have just received the p40 lite 5g.
the p40 lite 5g HAS private space
hello guys
Im planning to buy a new phone, but im stuck comparing between the P40 pro and P30 pro NE , as ive ssen a lot of people complaining about the google service and how big of hastel to sideload them and all. and also even after side loading them there seems some people who are still complaining that they do not work very well or at least not as they soppus to,
well my greatest concern is the Google map which i like the most , ive tryed maps me for a while but it didnt do the whole trick it missed some informations i think, and also my concern is after i side loade GSM would the probplem appear again after whije , perhaps after an update or somthing
sorry for my bad english
There are a lot of ways to install GMS, when it works it will work 90% it will miss some things like Google pay and notifications the notifications can work via icebox or freezing Google Play framework, however this will mess with GPS at the moment.
I have mine setup without notifications and it works good. You can also try Here Maps if you dont need GMS for other things.
Also the P30 Pro NE is not a good buy the normal P30 Pro is cheaper and only misses some color options and and has a base model with 128gb.
If i had to choose again i would opt for the P40 Pro again the minor hassle has a better overal phone and gave me the chance to go with some alternatives instead of Google services for everything.
Mafiatounes said:
There are a lot of ways to install GMS, when it works it will work 90% it will miss some things like Google pay and notifications the notifications can work via icebox or freezing Google Play framework, however this will mess with GPS at the moment.
I have mine setup without notifications and it works good. You can also try Here Maps if you dont need GMS for other things.
Also the P30 Pro NE is not a good buy the normal P30 Pro is cheaper and only misses some color options and and has a base model with 128gb.
If i had to choose again i would opt for the P40 Pro again the minor hassle has a better overal phone and gave me the chance to go with some alternatives instead of Google services for everything.
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are you saying if i go for the P30 pro 2019 is better because of the price , and also would the 128gb make diffrence or thats something will not hinder the experience
Exactly that for me it is P30 Pro NE > P30 Pro (Better price) > P40 Pro
For me 128gb is enough, i use Google Photos and my pictures are in the cloud. For music i use Tidal. So basically i do not need so much. But you have to see for yourself if that would be enough
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hello guys
Im planning to buy a new phone, but im stuck comparing between the P40 pro and P30 pro NE , as ive ssen a lot of people complaining about the google service and how big of hastel to sideload them and all. and also even after side loading them there seems some people who are still complaining that they do not work very well or at least not as they soppus to,
well my greatest concern is the Google map which i like the most , ive tryed maps me for a while but it didnt do the whole trick it missed some informations i think, and also my concern is after i side loade GSM would the probplem appear again after whije , perhaps after an update or somthing
sorry for my bad english
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I was in a similar position about a month ago, but what you can do in advance of commiting to a handset is try out the alternatives on your current devices, I use the recommended one by Huawei which is here we go, and you know what its super clean and really well formatted. Ive not really missed GMS as HMS is offering everything quite rapidly
If you want to use Google accounts, then forget the P40 .. you can read the threads here and it is still a problem.
If you want to de-Google your life a bit, and your apps work ok on the P40 Pro, then you can get a few DXOMARK points and buy the P40 Pro.
Plenty of map alternatives work fine without GMS install. I am using HMS+microG install (so no GMS) ....
a) HereWeGo
b) Waze
c) Google Go Maps
d) Google Maps works fine but no login
Hello XDA,
I recently upgraded to a P40 Pro and have been finding my bearings with the new HMS
My main question is, have I lost all of my Google backups from my old device and how can I back up data onto my new P40 Pro to ensure that it is all safe?
Secondly, what alternatives are people using to the GMAIL and YouTube App as I have been forcing myself to get used to the Web Apps but it's just not for me!
Thanks.
Hey bud, I recently swapped to a P40 Pro and I was recommended Google Takeout to recover any Google stuff you may have around and then you can always move it to Huawei Cloud or One Drive etc. As for YouTube I actually asked that on here recently and was recommened YouTube Vanced. I still use the website just pinned to my homescreen for now.
OnlyCams said:
Hello XDA,
I recently upgraded to a P40 Pro and have been finding my bearings with the new HMS
My main question is, have I lost all of my Google backups from my old device and how can I back up data onto my new P40 Pro to ensure that it is all safe?
Secondly, what alternatives are people using to the GMAIL and YouTube App as I have been forcing myself to get used to the Web Apps but it's just not for me!
Thanks.
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In terms of getting all your Google data across to your P40 Pro/HMS device I recommend using Google Takeout.
To back stuff up on your P40 Pro then I recommend getting your Huawei Drive set up. You can even backup WhatsApp.
I've actually signed into my Gmail account using Huawei's Email app. As for YouTube I use YouTube Vanced.
OnlyCams said:
Hello XDA,
I recently upgraded to a P40 Pro and have been finding my bearings with the new HMS
My main question is, have I lost all of my Google backups from my old device and how can I back up data onto my new P40 Pro to ensure that it is all safe?
Secondly, what alternatives are people using to the GMAIL and YouTube App as I have been forcing myself to get used to the Web Apps but it's just not for me!
Thanks.
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For YouTube Vanced if you install Vanced MicroG then it will allow you to safely sign in using your Gmail account.
Hello All,
Is there any app/service like google pay to be used in Huawei p40 pro without GMS in India?
I have tried phonepe/ paytm.. They work but unable to use the barcode scan feature.
Thanks
ajnaschikku said:
Hello All,
Is there any app/service like google pay to be used in Huawei p40 pro without GMS in India?
I have tried phonepe/ paytm.. They work but unable to use the barcode scan feature.
Thanks
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The Payment wallet bkash QR code not reading by my P40 pro. Anyone know solution to this please
Problem solved after updating latest play services 20.39.15 version?
Fitbit pay works perfectly without GMS. I am using a Fitbit Sense with my P40 pro the only part that is not working is the display of maps during exercise as they require GMS.