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Now it's official, no Google blessings!
They killed it before its even born!
The best smartphone any Geek could ever dream of.
6.5 inch horizon screen with better screen to body ratio and smaller notch
Kirin 990 with 5G 7nm processor
4500 mah battery
27w wireless charging with 3 times faster reverse wireless charging
Improved camera sensor
Better in display fingerprint sensor
Better UI
etc...
Tthey promise a stable huawei mobile services platform and a rich app store database, but can it replace Google play services (play store, maps, youtube, drive, etc...)
Even if we can add Google play services, will it be continuously getting updates? Will it be secure? Can it be allowed to add it in the 1st place?
Why kill a great company with leading technologies and limitless potentials?
I am a Huawei flagship user since the Porsche design mate 9 passing through all the great phones Huawei created and ending with the Mate 20 Pro 8gb 256gb international version. No way I'm going back to Samsung. The Note 10 plus can't be compared to the legendary Mate 30 pro!!!!
I'm in shock, I feel I'm in a nightmare and I need to wake up and find it's over soon!

Searching Huawei's App gallery on my Honor view 20, there are lots of YouTube clients. There is web browser access of course. For other apps like maps, we just extract the apk from an old phone and fire it over to the new mate 30. Just means a manual process every now and than. I'm not sure if the lack play services will cause issues? Just think how great the battery life would be without Play Services! Also, we won't have google listening to our every words and then serving up ads all the time.

Same here ... We need to know will we be able to install the play store and google apps .... ?????? This is the important question .
Or when u buy the phone will it transfer all your apps in the 1st sync between 2 phones ?

Is it possible that we can just create a custom rom with all the google services?

hwoarang626 said:
Same here ... We need to know will we be able to install the play store and google apps .... ?????? This is the important question .
Or when u buy the phone will it transfer all your apps in the 1st sync between 2 phones ?
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It isn't ideal but you could install Aurora Droid if you cannot install the Google Play store.
As for transferring all your apps. I would assume not That seems to be a Google service when you setup your phone with your Google account. Unless they provide a service like that which can read apps and settings from the previous phone.
Another good thing to note besides just installing the Google Play Store is that you need Google Play Services for some apps. Things like Netflix won't play in HD, WhatsApp won't be able to back-up your data to Google Drive, and Snapchat won't work either. You might be able to circumvent those problems with the microG Project though. But I believe that that is still in an early stage of development.

In a follow-up interview with Richard Yu clarified one important question in regards to how users will have control over the software they’ll be able to install on the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro;
and he also confirmed that users will be able to unlock the bootloaders for the Mate 30 and 30 Pro.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14887/huawei-launches-mate-30-mate-30-pro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DO1cnJwIWw&feature=youtu.be
i don't speak Italian but google apps are installed at 5:15. Maps and youtube are shown shortly after that. Play store is also shown being installed. Getting this phone when it's available.

Is the unavailability of GApps permanent ?
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Cccmachins said:
In a follow-up interview with Richard Yu clarified one important question in regards to how users will have control over the software they’ll be able to install on the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro;
and he also confirmed that users will be able to unlock the bootloaders for the Mate 30 and 30 Pro.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14887/huawei-launches-mate-30-mate-30-pro
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We can have Magisk, Custom roms and Kernels then ?

Actually with unlocked bootloader and easy root this may be the phone to get.

pete4k said:
Actually with unlocked bootloader and easy root this may be the phone to get.
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I was wondering the same thing. In the olden times- phone with unlocked bootloader allowed us to customize phone to the teeth- Performance and battery longevity both improved. Shouldn't that be the case here?'
RE-sale would suffer

mwatson said:
Searching Huawei's App gallery on my Honor view 20, there are lots of YouTube clients. There is web browser access of course. For other apps like maps, we just extract the apk from an old phone and fire it over to the new mate 30. Just means a manual process every now and than. I'm not sure if the lack play services will cause issues? Just think how great the battery life would be without Play Services! Also, we won't have google listening to our every words and then serving up ads all the time.
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I think the same way as you. The first thing that crossed my mind when Richard Yu said that's not going to be any GMS was that battery life would be freaking awesome. GMS like play services has a really high battery consumption. If I get the Mate 30 Pro, I would just sideload YouTube and Gmail. I don't really need other Google services.

I think this was a dreadful way of handling competition with Huawei.
They outran everyone and so - you treat them like terrorists and run them out of the market.
It's transparent and anti-capitalist and I'm going to buy the phone and I hope that China keeps going.
It's left a bitter taste in my mouth for everything American.
For the time being I'm just going to short-cut from my browsers to gmail etc
I don't need the apps
And side-load when this becomes possible.
I don't like to see people beat down good competition.
I'm behind Huawei all the way - I don't think anyone will ever trust America again - I wish them luck with Harmony OS and in the long term, I wish China's tech, every success.
Let's see.
Onward.

First message on xda-developer since, well, when I actually used the XDA II!
I am not moving away from Android and if I can, Huawei (Mate 7,8,9P,10P,20P, P20P, P30P). Am now looking at prove that GMS can be installed on the M30P and I will upgrade, if not, I'm sorry Huawei.

Are we still on XDA-Developers ? People could boot 3 OS's on the HTC HD2 !
Installing Google Services on the Mate30 is really easy...
Just look at any Meizu or Xiaomi china phone and see how easy it is to get it to run the full Google services, heck, flashing Gapps after Flashing any ROM avaiable on here should already be 2nd nature to most of us !

I agree. Sideload Google services is very easy. Just flash a gapps package and you're done. If you just want YouTube and G-Mail, just flash these two apps

Hope we can easily sideload all Google stuff.
I don't see any phone worth buying outside of M30P or maybe M30X in the future

I have a Mate 20 Pro and it's an amazing phone, I'd like to buy a Mate 30 Pro and I have zero problems with side-loading apps and unlocking bootloaders etc.
The only question I have is, is it possible after side loading the apps for Google restrict them remotely?
Sorry if this is well known, I've been out of the ROM / app flashing game for a while.... back in my HD2 days it was a new ROM every week and great fun

GMS will be like installing on a chinese SKU'd phone, but the issue as a daily driver will be things like widevide, saftey net, bank apps, etc... not to mention having to root for things like aptx codecs etc. It will also remain to be seen if push notifications via gcm will be ok as well, or FCM i think is what the push api is called now.
Netflix, Spotify, most decent banking apps, might be b0rked. Really a shame since this hardware is leagues ahead right now. Pixel 4 xl is looking to be a disappointment comparatively, and note 10 was just 10++ basically.

gn0s1s said:
GMS will be like installing on a chinese SKU'd phone, but the issue as a daily driver will be things like widevide, saftey net, bank apps, etc... not to mention having to root for things like aptx codecs etc. It will also remain to be seen if push notifications via gcm will be ok as well, or FCM i think is what the push api is called now.
Netflix, Spotify, most decent banking apps, might be b0rked. Really a shame since this hardware is leagues ahead right now. Pixel 4 xl is looking to be a disappointment comparatively, and note 10 was just 10++ basically.
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Yes, am very keen to see if banking apps will work.

SafetyNet WILL be broken by unlocking the bootloader. It's a given. Sadly this means no Netflix, no banking apps, no Snapchat (can cope without that one) etc. To me that's fine - I never watch netflix on my phone and banking I always access from a browser. For a phone the major things, for me, are battery life and the camera. I'll be getting this and hoping I can sideload stuff later.

Limitations of p40 *with* gms

Hi all,
I'm looking to change from my P30 Pro - love the phone, but I dropped my belt on the screen [emoji22] and they're expensive to fix. Insurance paid me out luckily, debating whether I buy a P40 as they're really cheap now, or get the P30 Pro fixed.
The P30 Pro main camera gives weird yellow hues especially when capturing in raw and I'm hopeful the p40 is improved. Plus I think the 5x zoom is a gimmick, 2x or 3x is more usable in my view.
I'm wondering what the real limitations of daily use with a P40 is if you've loaded gms onto it.
- Can you update apps automatically from the play store?
- Does uber work once you have gms loaded?
- Does Netflix play in HD? (not so fussed about hdr)
- Do you have to re-apply gms fixes regularly or is that only needed when there's a Huawei firmware update?
- Does chromecast work?
I've read a bunch of forums but still not totally clear on what the current state is.
Thanks all, appreciate any advice!
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We do need a custom firmware, otherwise forget about it, you may install some apps but you will always find bugs on apps that wont coop that great with some stuff that google have and needs adaptation to run on huawei phones, it really sucks we are doomed, the smartphones are extremely fast, the fastest i ever had, although, i was not able to use netflix, tinder and some others without serious bugs, our only hope is a custom firmware for the p40 family.

Thanks for the reply!
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I've had a P30 pro but I returned it because of the size and the dim screen. Got a P40 and could not be happier. All apps work except netflix, no need to reapply anything, updates are automatic.

Considering the fact that in stock version there are no Google services at all, you need to find yourself using Huawei´s App Gallery. Some basic apps like Whatsapp etc are available through it. In other cases it refers to "PetalSearch" which directs you to (somewhat shady) apk-sites. Even if you get another store running on it like F-Droid or APKpure, some apps may be found and installed, but running them usually comes with notifications about missing google services, hence the app would not work properly, or at all...
I got this phone for the same reason (price & performance). Unfortunately due to the lack of integration and usuability, i am deemed to wait for a better image to put on the phone.
(I came across "OpenKirin"-Project and they seem to be active in XDA as well. Hope they´re able to look into this)

jasonhelene said:
We do need a custom firmware, otherwise forget about it, you may install some apps but you will always find bugs on apps that wont coop that great with some stuff that google have and needs adaptation to run on huawei phones, it really sucks we are doomed, the smartphones are extremely fast, the fastest i ever had, although, i was not able to use netflix, tinder and some others without serious bugs, our only hope is a custom firmware for the p40 family.
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This is definitely exaggerating a bit.
Auto-updating apps from Google Play doesn't work, yes, but apps being broken - not really, at least from everything I've seen the only issue is notifications (on my side, Skype, Discord, Duo Authenticator, GMail's own app** and a banking app) however the apps themselves still work. What most people use works just fine without Google's stuff, though getting APKpure store is a good recommendation, that will cover pretty much everything (that is free) and missing in AppGallery.
Tinder definitely works fine from what I've seen, Netflix doesn't work at all due to some API/DRM certification stuff.
**using Outlook or the built-in email app fixes that

So P40 pro in 2021 how is it?

I had the P40 pro last year, really liked the hardware but ultimately grew tired of the faff to keep things working and notifications never really were 100%
Are things any different now or is it still as much hassle to get and keep working? I am kind of tempted again

Great phone, same issues to install GSM, but when you get it everything seems to work fine without errors. Even my bank applications are running now.

wonderful phone with great camaras display and battery, waiting for harmony os

I was totally ok with getting my apps elsewhere before and have no problem tinkering, it was notifications and google photos that bugged me in the end last time.

As you can see in my thread, I can't install a banking app. Other than that, with phone clone and the aurora app store, everything else is working (apart from uber, but you can make web shortcuts, which solves that problem).
Quality phone overall would recommend you to check if your banking apps work, or if you need a mobile version of them. Apart from that super satisfied.

My two complaints are apps from sites have fonts too small for me to read and how to get photos from phone to laptop quickly for editing.

Just bought this phone, it's very cheap compare to the early date it launched. I simply use gspace to enable some gms required apps. I found this very useful and gspace seems to work flawlessly. Now I ditch yg Vivo X50pro to use Huawei P40pro.

Hi i love my p40 pro the camera is excellent much better than i even thought it would be .but for me the problem has always been google .is there no way of getting it on my phone easily???

Just bought this phone last month, loves the Camera & Battery Life, only missing is Goolge (no way to downgrade though) using my 3+ years old oneplus5 as primary & p40pro as secondary device

Youtube Casting and Google Pay works?

Hello friends,
Long time Huawei fan here, currently using the P30 pro but the screen broke (water damaged). Its waterproof but a couple of drops on the floor must have given some gap in the corners and I washed the phone without knowing this. Damn, gone... I miss that phone so much Its not even available to order anymore.
I searched for 100s of models from other brands as well, nothing comes close to my love for Huawei P30 pro and the next choice is P40.
I'm still on the fence just for the Google apps but I think we can get it thru goolefier.
My question is, does Youtube Chromecasting and Google home assistant work fine? These 2 apps are the major requirement for me so wanted to hear your thoughts on this before I buy this bad boy.
Thanks a lot.
Carty..

Casting works and home also. But there are still things that don't like Duo. Unless you get a very good deal on it it may no longer be worth all the hassle.

Thanks. I'm not getting a great deal but I couldn't find another device that looks sleek and stylish as huawei.
I never used Duo.. WHatsapp call is there right

Apart from Google duo not working, do you get annoying notification popups like 'google play no supported or device not supported' often disturbing you?
I think I will order the same P30 pro instead of P40 pro if so.

Hello. I have a p40 with googlefier installed, later files replaced from a gentleman on YouTube (distributing fix for p40 for donations only) and my duo is working, i can call, cam is working etc. Google pay not, that's only thing I noticed not functioning. Sorry can't remember the Gent name from youtube, he was mentioned on xda multiple times.

djkac said:
Hello. I have a p40 with googlefier installed, later files replaced from a gentleman on YouTube (distributing fix for p40 for donations only) and my duo is working, i can call, cam is working etc. Google pay not, that's only thing I noticed not functioning. Sorry can't remember the Gent name from youtube, he was mentioned on xda multiple times.
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This is his channel on YT. https://youtube.com/channel/UCQM_-xUx6g0mJSAvkHREcNA

Do you get crash notifications often disturbing your regular work? Not just on Duo but from play services etc...

General Huewei P50 Pro JAD-LX9 international version using daily - You need google? DO NOT BUY! I wish I bought Samsung or even iPhone

I have it for a month now. Hardware - perfect. System - looks stable. BUT... google apps and services? Forget it.
Yes, I am from middle Europe, used to have Google services on every step. I use google Photos, Gmail, Drive, Maps, Youtube, Chromecast, Android Auto, Notes, Docs, Drive... Guess what. All of that is gone.
I came from Huawei P30 PRO which was one of the best phones and still is (it has GMS – google services). P40 PRO can use Googlefier and google is back. My logical option was to upgrade from P30 PRO to P50 PRO and simply use solution as Googlefier.
AND HOW WRONG I WAS!!
P50 PRO international uses EMUI 12 and not Harmony OS 2.0 as Chines version. Chines version is having possibility to load google services but not the international. Believe me, I have try like many others.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE INSTALL GMS ON INTERNATIONAL VERSION.
DO NOT BUY THIS PHONE IF YOU USE GOOGLE SERVICES.
Right now use gmail and google photos in browser!! I have 100GB of drive space to use it in a browser is a nightmare.
THIS PHONE IS “CANDY” WITH A NIGHTMARE!
Gspace, dualspace, VMS… you ask? It’s all a joke. Buggy and full of limitations, notifications not working, total add platform on every touch. You have to wait 5 seconds for every app you open or use again. I would buy the app but I am not convinced. Safety is questionable.
AppGalery and Pental? Please, I would rather not comment.
Half of my local apps do not work as those depend on google services. Just try to install Strava for instance, parking app, paying apps, local weather, TV casting, receiver control, smart apps… NOT WORKING
Now what should I do? Two options.
I can wait for someone to make native GMS to work. I will wait for maybe a month.
Sell this NIGHTMARE of a PHONE for something less attractive but working normally.
Second option should be my first option as I spend too much time (whole month) to fix GMS on my P50 PRO.
For 1200,00 € (Some $ 1330,00 USD ) I can easy get iPhone 13 PRO MAX or Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G.
I should point out that I loved my P30 PRO and I don’t care what Trump thinks about Huawei.
HUAWEI, HONOR and company. No, thank you, never again. Sadly my options are elsewhere. I am certain many will follow.
Let me know if I am wrong.

Well Gspace works for me. Google photos backup also works for me via Gspace (just had to configure to run autostart and battery optimization). Google drive uploading via Gspace works flawlessly.
I use DAVx for contact and calendar sync. Use Aurora store for installing apps (most of the apps are working even the games).
Only problem I see is WhatsApp Backup on Google drive, which I am managing by taking a local backup via a script, when I change PHONE, as I frequently switch between my Xiaomi 12 Pro and P50 Pro.
Pretty happy with the device even with the limitations.
I am searching for a way to install Harmonyos on it, so far found none, maybe if it can be done, it will heal you to install Gms.

iskalec1 said:
I have it for a month now. Hardware - perfect. System - looks stable. BUT... google apps and services? Forget it...
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Wish you post it a few days earlier before I was on a decision, P50 Pro or iPhone 13 Pro Max (same price until the last euro) and chose Huawei for a better camera and consult guy promises that Gspace will solve everything for me.
Hardware itself is awesome. But... Very missing a Google Services and all it integrations. Hope that one day they appears.

hello, i have the p40pro and i bought the p50pro for 850 dollars for a gift watch the gt2pro is compliant with the type of use i give it i use modified gspace it does not carry advertisements and aurorastore the only problem i see is in some applications that it does not maintain them in background

wboris said:
hello, i have the p40pro and i bought the p50pro for 850 dollars for a gift watch the gt2pro is compliant with the type of use i give it i use modified gspace it does not carry advertisements and aurorastore the only problem i see is in some applications that it does not maintain them in background
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Try locking it in the background.

theintelligent said:
Well Gspace works for me. Google photos backup also works for me via Gspace (just had to configure to run autostart and battery optimization). Google drive uploading via Gspace works flawlessly.
I use DAVx for contact and calendar sync. Use Aurora store for installing apps (most of the apps are working even the games).
Only problem I see is WhatsApp Backup on Google drive, which I am managing by taking a local backup via a script, when I change PHONE, as I frequently switch between my Xiaomi 12 Pro and P50 Pro.
Pretty happy with the device even with the limitations.
I am searching for a way to install Harmonyos on it, so far found none, maybe if it can be done, it will heal you to install Gms.
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Hi need help, before OK used Goole Drive from Gspace and later why sometimes has restart to checking info and won't stop, any solution please.. Thanks

adrs168 said:
Hi need help, before OK used Goole Drive from Gspace and later why sometimes has restart to checking info and won't stop, any solution please.. Thanks
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Clear cache, clear recent, then try. If this didn't work, reinstall Google drive