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[Q] Huawei App Manager has more updates than Google Play Store

By chance I ran the Huawei App Manager and it showed me a lot of updates for Apps I installed with Google Play but Google Play does not show these updates?
How can that be?

Flavio said:
By chance I ran the Huawei App Manager and it showed me a lot of updates for Apps I installed with Google Play but Google Play does not show these updates?
How can that be?
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I noticed that too. I don't know why. There apps were the only google apps that I did not have a problem with dealing with syncing and my google account disappearing before I was rooted.

mtyler7807 said:
I noticed that too. I don't know why. There apps were the only google apps that I did not have a problem with dealing with syncing and my google account disappearing before I was rooted.
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Probably an update in another language ....
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mtyler7807 said:
I noticed that too. I don't know why. There apps were the only google apps that I did not have a problem with dealing with syncing and my google account disappearing before I was rooted.
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Probably an update in another language ....

Problem downloading large apps

Has someone a solution for this problem? When trying to download large games from the play store the app force closes instantly.
Thanks

no issues here after switching to the international rom. maybe thats worth a try, since it has all google apps and services preinstalled
Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk

I've mentioned this before.
There is a fix for it but its something to do with permissions and making it a system app otherwise you will get crashes when downloading anything around a gb or more.
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NZtechfreak said:
Also, you need to give Play Store internal storage permission to download those large games, until I did that I had same issue as you with large game installs appearing to cause the Play Store to crash.
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As you can see a simple search and you can find the answers...

Need some setting change...

First public firmware for ROG Phone.

Found this posted on ASUS's website today in the downloads section.
Appears to be the Chinese version of the firmware. Judging by the patch notes looks like they will have separate versions for China, Japan & Worldwide.
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They now have the World Wide firmware posted as well as the Kernel source code for both Chinese and World Wide variants.
https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Phone/ROG-Phone/HelpDesk_Download/
If the downloads don't appear for you when you select Android from the dropdown menu, there seems to be something wrong with ASUS's website and Chrome. Working fine on Firefox and Edge.

dbzgod said:
Found this posted on ASUS's website today in the downloads section.
Appears to be the Chinese version of the firmware. Judging by the patch notes looks like they will have separate versions for China, Japan & Worldwide.
https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Phone/ROG-Phone/HelpDesk_BIOS/
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZS600KL/UL-ASUS_Z01QD_1-CN-15.1616.1807.8-1.1.12-user.zip
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I just recieved my chinese unit yesterday and i have updated immediately to the mentioned update version. I am saddened by the fact that so far it's not possible to install the google store and the Google apps that require play services installed, i have spent the majority of the day trying different Google installers but to no avail. Still i managed to get the majority of my apps installed.
Hopefully this issue will be resolved soon. By the way you can download the phone English Manual from Asus Website the chinese version of course which will give more details to anyone interested. If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
One final note you can't flash other region rom and there aren't tools yet to do so.

Rashad83 said:
I just recieved my chinese unit yesterday and i have updated immediately to the mentioned update version. I am saddened by the fact that so far it's not possible to install the google store and the Google apps that require play services installed, i have spent the majority of the day trying different Google installers but to no avail. Still i managed to get the majority of my apps installed.
Hopefully this issue will be resolved soon. By the way you can download the phone English Manual from Asus Website the chinese version of course which will give more details to anyone interested. If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to ask.
One final note you can't flash other region rom and there aren't tools yet to do so.
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Hi
I also ordered maind from china and waiting to arrive.
For google play instalation the saler confirmed to me before shipment that he managed to install google play using this site
http://www.gplayspace.com/
And from it u can install the google play and he said its working...
Can u try and tell me if its worked for u
My regard

abunhyan said:
Hi
I also ordered maind from china and waiting to arrive.
For google play instalation the saler confirmed to me before shipment that he managed to install google play using this site
http://www.gplayspace.com/
And from it u can install the google play and he said its working...
Can u try and tell me if its worked for u
My regard
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Cool i will give it a try and let you know, if you can point me to which installer that would be great.

Rashad83 said:
Cool i will give it a try and let you know, if you can point me to which installer that would be great.
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To be honest i didnt try it am still waiting my phone to arrive
But what i understand from the selar that u just install this google space app and from it u install google play store!!
And thats all !! And he confirmed to me that google play is working !!
Just try and tell me ...

abunhyan said:
To be honest i didnt try it am still waiting my phone to arrive
But what i understand from the selar that u just install this google space app and from it u install google play store!!
And thats all !! And he confirmed to me that google play is working !!
Just try and tell me ...
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So i just installed the app you mentioned, basically it's a launcher it lets you access the play store within it using your Google account but it doesn't actually install the Google play store or any of its required sister apps it only lets you install/update from the Google Play Store like your purchased apps for example, still if you install Google Maps from it for example it won't work because you need the Google Account Manager to login and retrieve your saved info, same thing for all other Google apps that require Google play services. Actually this launcher works like "Yalp Store" if you heard of it but Yalp is better i think.

Did u tried to install google store apk file from it?
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I cant confrim anything before i have my phone but as what i understand the a working google play apk is stored in my phone before shipment ..
Will see when i got my phone ..
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Rashad83 said:
So i just installed the app you mentioned, basically it's a launcher it lets you access the play store within it using your Google account but it doesn't actually install the Google play store or any of its required sister apps it only lets you install/update from the Google Play Store like your purchased apps for example, still if you install Google Maps from it for example it won't work because you need the Google Account Manager to login and retrieve your saved info, same thing for all other Google apps that require Google play services. Actually this launcher works like "Yalp Store" if you heard of it but Yalp is better i think.
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Hi
I contacted the selar and do this instruction :
1- here you go: http://www.gplayspace.com
2- click "免费下载Google空间" to download it, and install it on your phone,the Google play will be on the file “Goole 空间 ”.
3- and that its google play will be installed

abunhyan said:
Did u tried to install google store apk file from it?
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I cant confrim anything before i have my phone but as what i understand the a working google play apk is stored in my phone before shipment ..
Will see when i got my phone ..
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Hi
I contacted the selar and do this instruction :
1- here you go: http://www.gplayspace.com
2- click "免费下载Google空间" to download it, and install it on your phone,the Google play will be on the file “Goole 空间 ”.
3- and that its google play will be installed
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Yep that's what i did, and as i explained the google play store isn't a stand a lone app it's within the launcher app. You will not find it in your drawer app so technically it's not installed. If you remove the launcher you will not be able to access the play store anymore, so the launcher is acting like a proxy to the play store.
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So to further explain, if you ever used an Android emulator on windows this launcher app does the same thing. The launcher app installs all apps within it and you access them from it. The only problem with using this app is how secure is your data and what about your google account.

Rashad83 said:
Yep that's what i did, and as i explained the google play store isn't a stand a lone app it's within the launcher app. You will not find it in your drawer app so technically it's not installed. If you remove the launcher you will not be able to access the play store anymore, so the launcher is acting like a proxy to the play store.
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Can u install
Youtube
Maps
Google chrome
And all normal apps ?

abunhyan said:
Can u install
Youtube
Maps
Google chrome
And all normal apps ?
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Yes but you install them within the launcher app. once you uninstall the launcher your apps goes with it.

Thats strange and what about if u chose different luncher they still works?

abunhyan said:
Thats strange and what about if u chose different luncher they still works?
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what do you mean by another launcher?. I think you misunderstood me, the launcher app i mean is(gplayspace app) all apps installed are within it, so if you uninstall it all other apps are uninstalled.
If you want to just use chrome, Maps you can install them from Asus Store but old versions not up to date. Regarding Youtube you can install "Youtube Vanced" which is better than the Youtube app itself.
If you just want to use (playspace app), make sure to use a disposable Google account in case something wrong goes down. Good Luck

Rashad83 said:
what do you mean by another launcher?. I think you misunderstood me, the launcher app i mean is(gplayspace app) all apps installed are within it, so if you uninstall it all other apps are uninstalled.
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Ahaa..
So it just inside this app only ? Or u can see all installed app as normal in the defult luncher?

abunhyan said:
Ahaa..
So it just inside this app only ? Or u can see all installed app as normal in the defult luncher?
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Bro i just answered you. All apps installed from gplayspace app are within it you will only find them there. So you will not see them in your Home launcher as individual apps.

Its clear now
Thanks if u found any way to make google play working inform me

abunhyan said:
Its clear now
Thanks if u found any way to make google play working inform me
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Sure no problem, i think it's a matter of time until it's resolved. Good luck.

ASUS added the world wide firmware as well to the download list + Kernel source code is also available.

The apps you love and use on Huawei phones without Google services

Hey What's up guys,
So following on from my banking segments i thought id cover off Popular apps next.
So some of the top apps i have successfully been able to install and run without side loading GMS. This again has been done via Phone Clone, Huawei App Gallery, Petal search which draws from APK stores.
Microsoft Office
WhatsApp and i was able to transfer my chat history
Facebook
TikTok
Instagram
Twitter
Messenger
Spotify
Netflix
Snapchat
Disney Life
CODM
And many more. A lot of people still think you cant get these apps or that its very difficult to do so, or that you have to sideload GMS. Hopefully this helps build a better understanding of what you can get and with ease.
Let me know what you guys have managed to install Without sideloading GMS and did you know about getting all these apps?

What is the point? The list will be huge. Are you going to maintain this huge list of thousands of software?
Do you have some sort of website to do this effectively .. or just a random list of software in a forum in no particular order?
what is some apps work 90% ok but have a minor glitch? will that be addressed in your website for this new database?

linux2525 said:
What is the point? The list will be huge. Are you going to maintain this huge list of thousands of software?
Do you have some sort of website to do this effectively .. or just a random list of software in a forum in no particular order?
what is some apps work 90% ok but have a minor glitch? will that be addressed in your website for this new database?
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The OP is merely exchanging experience of life without google, sharing what apps work or not may be useful to some members.
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ChrisHtube said:
Hey What's up guys,
So following on from my banking segments i thought id cover off Popular apps next.
So some of the top apps i have successfully been able to install and run without side loading GMS. This again has been done via Phone Clone, Huawei App Gallery, Petal search which draws from APK stores.
Microsoft Office
WhatsApp and i was able to transfer my chat history
Facebook
TikTok
Instagram
Twitter
Messenger
Spotify
Netflix
Snapchat
Disney Life
CODM
And many more. A lot of people still think you cant get these apps or that its very difficult to do so, or that you have to sideload GMS. Hopefully this helps build a better understanding of what you can get and with ease.
Let me know what you guys have managed to install Without sideloading GMS and did you know about getting all these apps?
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To add to this, check out what people are installing on amazon fire tablets as a workaround, you may find it useful!

linux2525 said:
What is the point? The list will be huge. Are you going to maintain this huge list of thousands of software?
Do you have some sort of website to do this effectively .. or just a random list of software in a forum in no particular order?
what is some apps work 90% ok but have a minor glitch? will that be addressed in your website for this new database?
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Hi, i completely understand where you are coming from. I am only trying to share my experience and see what others have found. I'm new to forums so this may not be as well laid out as your use to but ill get better with time. If you have noticed any glitches with any of the above apps then it would be cool to know about your experience.

machina77 said:
The OP is merely exchanging experience of life without google, sharing what apps work or not may be useful to some members.
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To add to this, check out what people are installing on amazon fire tablets as a workaround, you may find it useful!
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Thank you for this i will check it out. Have you fund any particular app store that's worked best? i have been testing a few.

meh ive got the p40 pro and ive been fine using it, googles not everything. I used google for email, browser, maps and downloading apps, didn't use google books didn't use google pay after using it and having my account hacked and multiple credit and store cards taken out!! I googled it and its more common than you think.)
I still use gmail but just use their email app, I used their browser at first but recently started using duck duck go, I use here we go maps as that's the 2nd best offline navigation next to google maps and downloading apps? Went straight to app gallery and downloaded petal search which gives me everything..
Everyone's different and if you need Google then get a phone with it on but im enjoying the freedom!

Why sideload GMS

Hey guys and gals.
I constantly check back on this platform, and i read mixed reviews, Ive learnt alot.
The question i ask is what is actually the benefit of sideloading GMS?
I mean HMS offers:
Email instead of Gmail
App Gallery, Petal Search instead of Playstore
I can use Vanced instead of Youtube.
Phone clone works
Huawei Music and Video instead of Google Music and Video.
I know the solution for Google Pay is coming soon so,
So really what is the benefit?

The progress of 9/10 of my games is saved on Google Play Games. I have no other reason to install GMS \'_'/

Notifications.. Phones are pretty useless without notifications.
MicroG is a good alternative to GMS but not perfect unfortunately.

linux2525 said:
Notifications.. Phones are pretty useless without notifications.
MicroG is a good alternative to GMS but not perfect unfortunately.
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Whats MicroG? You seem to know your stuff about all Huawei based things, So Id be interested to pick your brains

don't notifications work for all apps downloaded from appgallery?

i've had no notification issues from HMS gained apps.

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
Hey guys and gals.
I constantly check back on this platform, and i read mixed reviews, Ive learnt alot.
The question i ask is what is actually the benefit of sideloading GMS?
I mean HMS offers:
Email instead of Gmail
App Gallery, Petal Search instead of Playstore
I can use Vanced instead of Youtube.
Phone clone works
Huawei Music and Video instead of Google Music and Video.
I know the solution for Google Pay is coming soon so,
So really what is the benefit?
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I Feel there isn't really any benefit to sideloading GMS, is just because people are used t it and it takes time for people to get used to something else. I feel your correct there is no need and HMS has its own benefits to offer

No local banking apps work without GMS
Sent From My P40 Pro

Terra1 said:
No local banking apps work without GMS
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BankWest, Citibank, Latitude (28degrees) work fine in australia

Spoke to someone who had side loaded and they say you notifications dont come through and it crashes anyway.. pointless lol

linux2525 said:
BankWest, Citibank, Latitude (28degrees) work fine in australia
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I use NAB.
Sent From My P40 Pro

Terra1 said:
I use NAB.
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You said banks in Australia don't work.. That is wrong. You are just with the wrong bank unfortunately.

linux2525 said:
You said banks in Australia don't work.. That is wrong. You are just with the wrong bank unfortunately.
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Sorry I use one of the top four not a no name bank......
Sent From My P40 Pro

Terra1 said:
Sorry I use one of the top four not a no name bank......
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One of the top most expensive four

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
Hey guys and gals.
I constantly check back on this platform, and i read mixed reviews, Ive learnt alot.
The question i ask is what is actually the benefit of sideloading GMS?
I mean HMS offers:
Email instead of Gmail
App Gallery, Petal Search instead of Playstore
I can use Vanced instead of Youtube.
Phone clone works
Huawei Music and Video instead of Google Music and Video.
I know the solution for Google Pay is coming soon so,
So really what is the benefit?
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These are just backdoors to existing Google Services you *may* be using, so in some respects, you already have answered your own question.
If you truly dont need GMS and advocate HMS, then you technically shouldn't be reliant on Vanced, Google Pay, Petal Search (which is effectively there to sideload Play Store apps anyway), Phone Clone etc.

Terra1 said:
No local banking apps work without GMS
Sent From My P40 Pro
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but can you not use the browser version? I mean my banking website pretty much looks like an app, and surely its safer? as no data is being held?

future3 said:
These are just backdoors to existing Google Services you *may* be using, so in some respects, you already have answered your own question.
If you truly dont need GMS and advocate HMS, then you technically shouldn't be reliant on Vanced, Google Pay, Petal Search (which is effectively there to sideload Play Store apps anyway), Phone Clone etc.
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Ive never been a user of google pay anyways, Petal search is a Huawei official app so im only relaying on their software? and Vanced I know that's youtube however youtube is only useful if im working on my camper and I just chuck it on my tablet and I mean its a rarity, I guess its down to the user though. If I gave my mum a p40 pro for her it would do everything she needs, idk.
I think maybe people are just a bit fussy? I think its the better version of a nexus device but that my opinion

ChrisHtube said:
I Feel there isn't really any benefit to sideloading GMS, is just because people are used t it and it takes time for people to get used to something else. I feel your correct there is no need and HMS has its own benefits to offer
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well yeah looking at HMS as a bigger thing than just apps, it seems to be more 'eco system' than just where you get apps? I maybe wrong

JaiHamilton88 said:
Spoke to someone who had side loaded and they say you notifications dont come through and it crashes anyway.. pointless lol
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Yup, a lot of people saying this. Its because GMS and HMS are not built to run side by side.
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EatSleepTechRepeat said:
well yeah looking at HMS as a bigger thing than just apps, it seems to be more 'eco system' than just where you get apps? I maybe wrong
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100% HMS is going to offer the full ecosystem like Google or IOS but its going to offer so much more in regards to smart living

ChrisHtube said:
Yup, a lot of people saying this. Its because GMS and HMS are not built to run side by side.
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100% HMS is going to offer the full ecosystem like Google or IOS but its going to offer so much more in regards to smart living
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Your last part is a complete dream and totally false. It will never happen, sorry to break it you. Huawei cant even offer a APP ecosystem. The most simple type. Forget about everything else. Laughable.