Where is macro mode in K30 Pro Zoom?? - Xiaomi Poco F2 Pro (Redmi K30 Pro) Questions & Ans

I cant find the macro mode in camera app for Zoom version, I know it have a tele sensor instead macro but can we do macro photos with another sensor??

zoom edition doesn't have a macro lens

dhaern said:
I cant find the macro mode in camera app for Zoom version, I know it have a tele sensor instead macro but can we do macro photos with another sensor??
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You can't do macro shots with another sensor.
The macro sensor on the K30 has lenses that are able to focus within macro range (3-7 cm, if i remember correctly).
The sensors on the K30 Zoom do not have lenses with such a capability.

cgdams said:
You can't do macro shots with another sensor.
The macro sensor on the K30 has lenses that are able to focus within macro range (3-7 cm, if i remember correctly).
The sensors on the K30 Zoom do not have lenses with such a capability.
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But if im not wrong, many phones can do macro shots with main sensor or another non macro sensor no?

dhaern said:
But if im not wrong, many phones can do macro shots with main sensor or another non macro sensor no?
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Such camera modules can make some good "close up shots" so to say, but neither of them will produce quality shots like dedicated macro camera lens.

Huawei can do that, Xiaomi can't.

Yo can do macro shots with the 'pro' mode of the K30 pro zoom version camera. But it hasn't a dedicated macro len, so results won't be like no zoom version, of course.View attachment 5049335
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Enviado desde mi Redmi K30 Pro Zoom Edition mediante Tapatalk

This is nothing compare to the macro shots from the F2 Pro.

The Zoom variant doesn’t have a macro lens, ergo it can’t take macro shots. *Some* *flagship* devices have a very-high-angle lens that has a Macro mode, because they can afford nicer lenses. Ex : the OnePlus 8 pro

PocoSteve said:
The Zoom variant doesn’t have a macro lens, ergo it can’t take macro shots. *Some* *flagship* devices have a very-high-angle lens that has a Macro mode, because they can afford nicer lenses. Ex : the OnePlus 8 pro
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Mate 20/20X can do that and very good macro shots (called super macro shots)

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switchable telephoto lens in Google camera. Is it possible ?

I want to ask is that
Is it possible to to have switchable camera lens between normal and telephoto lens as telephoto lens would perform better in nightsight in Google camera.
As I took screenshots from engineer mode *#808#
Of normal camera and telephoto camera in low light where telephoto camera outstand in low light so if any developer can make switchable lens work for telephoto lens.
Normal camera in low light
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Telephoto camera in low light
You can also see the difference
Go to engineer mode by *#808# and swipe left to camera and test both the camera in low light.
Lower camera is main camera and upper camera is telephoto you can check it by keeping fingers in camera lens
You already can with gcam, just enable auxiliary camera switch method.
Which version of g cam?
Version
gamer765 said:
You already can with gcam, just enable auxiliary camera switch method.
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Which version of gcam?
And does it have nightsight?
I believe we do not have telephoto lens on OP6.
chintu1234 said:
I believe we do not have telephoto lens on OP6.
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I mean depth sensing camera
Secondary camera
gamer765 said:
You already can with gcam, just enable auxiliary camera switch method.
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shgovi said:
Which version of gcam?
And does it have nightsight?
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I have been searching for this since I installed gcam. Which version are you using? The arnova latest version I'm using doesn't have the option for auxiliary cam
Check these out. Took with arnova gcam.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6fmkxbRZuoS40YmZzLVgyj77B_ttgL8/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6ddT7jzFZpI1bKPftIa4weK91AsQ5tl/view?usp=drivesdk
Both pictures taken without moving the camera at all.
Check exif data, one is taken with main 16MP camera, second with the secondary 5MP camera.
Which version?
gamer765 said:
Check these out. Took with arnova gcam.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6fmkxbRZuoS40YmZzLVgyj77B_ttgL8/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-6ddT7jzFZpI1bKPftIa4weK91AsQ5tl/view?usp=drivesdk
Both pictures taken without moving the camera at all.
Check exif data, one is taken with main 16MP camera, second with the secondary 5MP camera.
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Which version of arnova gcam?
I can't find it for OnePlus 6.
And does it have nightsight?
shgovi said:
Which version of arnova gcam?
I can't find it for OnePlus 6.
And does it have nightsight?
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Here you go.
Link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WsCBBqIdkogxziwpDXCW2F-6Y-fRTUcw/view
Que
gamer765 said:
Here you go.
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Thank You gamer765
It's working
But hdr+ and hdr+ enhanced is not working in nightsight and and normal pictures in secondary camera so if any fix for that ?
shgovi said:
Thank You gamer765
It's working
But hdr+ and hdr+ enhanced is not working in nightsight and and normal pictures in secondary camera so if any fix for that ?
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No. I don't use the secondary camera mode, nor do I care to debug it if I don't use it. You're better off asking @Arnova8G2, not me. You asked a simple can it be done and I answered.

Some questions about the P40 Pro’s camera settings

Hello, I am interested in buying the P40 Pro. I know that the P40 pro shoots at 12.5 MP by default, but to do this, there is some upscaling. In theory this would result in worse pictures than the Mate 30 Pro. Would it be possible to shoot at a non-scaled resolution, such as 10mp as was the default of prior Huawei flagships, and prevent the upscaling? Thanks
There is no upscaling, there's downscaling.
Main camera provides 50 MP, just devide it by 4 - and you're at 12,5 MP.
So your fears about losses caused by upscaling are quite baseless.
Picture quality is real great, just the Pro mode is close to useless, yet.
Yep, P40P uses 4-in-1 pixel binning to output 12.5MP shots from its 50MP main sensor (50/4=12.5)
I was getting terrible photos versus my previous M30P but after all these firmware updates recently, can safely say it's much better now imo.
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Gsmarena just published the review on the P40 Pro +. The image from the primary is indeed cropped. Only when users shoot at 50mp or at .85 zoom, you can see the uncropped image. This means that the image is indeed being up-scaled by around 20 percent. I don't understand why they just didn't keep it at 10.5MP to prevent this upscaling. Some Huawei phones allow you to shoot at different MPs, does this phone allowed any other image sizes besides the 12.5mp and 50mp while still maintaining aspect ratio?
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^Default 12.5mp images
Shot at .85 zoom which removes the crop.
Thanks so much!
. 85x zoom is not through their ultra wide sensor?
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. 85x zoom is not through their ultra wide sensor?
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I don't think so, in any case, when you shoot a 1x zoom at 50mp, and then 1x zoom at 12.5mp, the 12.5mp image is still cropped. About 20% of the image is cropped off, that means Huawei is doing some upscaling. I don't care about the image being cropped, the edges of most cellphone cameras are pretty much crap anyways, but I don't think they should upscale it.

Question macro camera shots?

i'm looking for a phone with a good macro camera to view and take shots of PCB surface mount components. (resistors etc)
looking at the Moto G Stylus G5 since it's macro camera is 5MP. however none of the reviews i've seen include macro shots.
dear reviewers... just because YOU don't have a need for a macro camera, don't assume it's the same for others.
can some owners be kind enough to post some macro shots please?
the closer to an object the better.
A little late but the moto g stylus 5g (original quad lens model) has awful macro shots so hopefully you were able to find something else.
The main rear camera quality is pretty decent at least.
The issue is with the dedicated macro lens, it's really hard to get a good focus on your subject since the lens is fixed focus, so no tap to focus. It's kind of boggling to be honest. I ended up just never using macro mode on the phone and use the main rear cam lens for close up shots.
mathesar said:
A little late but the moto g stylus 5g (original quad lens model) has awful macro shots so hopefully you were able to find something else.
The main rear camera quality is pretty decent at least.
The issue is with the dedicated macro lens, it's really hard to get a good focus on your subject since the lens is fixed focus, so no tap to focus. It's kind of boggling to be honest. I ended up just never using macro mode on the phone and use the main rear cam lens for close up shots.
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many thanks for the info. i've ended up using an old Galaxy S5 (not as a phone) which does a good job at close work.
i can clearly read the surface mount resistor 18R0 (18Ω)
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i may break down and get a dedicated macro image device as i'm getting tired of trying to find 'the one' ungoogled phone.
thanks again. cheers

General (Update) 12S Ultra doesn't use main sensor at 3rd party apps

As you know, 12S Ultra has 3 camera sensors on the back.
The main sensor is IMX989, which is known as 1-inch sensor and it has best quality.
For ultra-wide and telephoto, it uses 1/2" IMX586.
When using default (Xiaomi) camera app, it uses IMX989 for wide, IMX 586 for ultra wide, telephoto, and macro.
This is normal. Nothing to be special.
But the problem starts when you're using 3rd party applications.
If application uses Android standard camera API, they will not utilize the main sensor.
Instead of a huge 1-inch IMX989, they will use IMX586 on the ultra wide.
You will get normal wide focal length (NOT ultra wide), but It will be noisier, less dynamic range, less resolution.
Maybe ultra wide sensor has two mode - full sensor readout for ultra wide, and pixel binning/cropping for macro and normal focal length.
This can be disappointment for some people, and huge minus for some nerdy professionals who using 3rd party apps like Filmic Pro.
You can test this by blocking MIDDLE lens on the back.
As far as I checked, Lightroom, Instagram, MotionCam, was not able to use Main sensor.
UPDATE : after clean installation of MIUI 13.0.7 with factory reset, problems are now fixed.
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Thit is very weird, so I put it to the test.
The above apps you are saying you tried are working fine with the main sensor on mine phone.
I tried few more camera apps and they all use the main sensor too.
13.0.7 stable
I do confirm using main sensor on Lightroom.
However on lightroom it has only two camera modes, rear and front facing, and when you use the rear mode it first uses main sensor but when you are close to an object or you cover the laser sensor at the top, it automatically switches to ultrawide for macro.
version 13.0.7
Okay. I made factory reset / clean installation with MIUI 13.0.7 and its fixed now.
Maybe it was an bug on MIUI 13.0.4 or temporal error.
Thanks for checking.
jaehisme said:
Okay. I made factory reset / clean installation with MIUI 13.0.7 and its fixed now.
Maybe it was an bug on MIUI 13.0.4 or temporal error.
Thanks for checking.
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yeah update note for 13.0.7 includes camera stuff, perhaps it included a fix to that problem in 13.0.4
well I'm glad it works for you now!
Have you tested motioncam / mcpro24fps? Are all sensors available, and what are the possible resolutions / framerates?
Considering a 12s Pro if the compatibility is there.
I‘ve tested MotionCam 4K at 30fps, 24fps. Only main sensor works.
But system will auto switch to macro (ultra-wide sensor) when you focus to close objects.

Question 3x and 10x optical zoom cameras in Video mode

Somebody complained some time ago about weird 3x and 10x optical zoom camera behavior.
Can confirm that.
Did a little test and can confirm: most of the time 3x and 10x are used as intended. But sometimes 10x zoom is filmed with 3x optical zoom camera. Could even catch a moment when 3x is covered with finger and camera switches between 3x and 10x (sometimes even 108MP) every 2-3 seconds.
Light, distance, heat - no idea what makes this happen. Tested in different scenarios (mostly bright room) - couldn't notice any pattern.
Another 10 minutes of waisted time for.. internet points and fame
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For me when take shot on Photo or Video mode, small 3x zoom sensor shot on 3 and 10x, but when shot on Pro or Pro Video, 3x sensor work only for 3x and 10x sensor work only for 10x zoom.
Depending on how close or far the subject is, the 10x zoom are shot by a different sensor. As soon as I cover the 10x zoom sensor with my finger, it immediately turns on the 10x zoom on the small 3x sensor.
Using the 3x or even using the 1x to do 10x zoom instead of using the actual 10x optical zoom seems to happen for me under a couple of circumstances. 1) Low light, the 3x lens is f/2.4 and the 10x lens is f/4.9; significantly "slower". Sometimes the camera decides that you will be "better off" noise wise by using the shorter optical zooms. 2) The 10x just can't focus. Because of the low light or because you are trying to take a picture of something that is too close for the zoom lens. This can happen in good light if you are trying to take a "macro" shot of something close. Unfortunately there does not seem to be any way to know what the camera system is going to decide what to do.
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Using the 3x or even using the 1x to do 10x zoom instead of using the actual 10x optical zoom seems to happen for me under a couple of circumstances. 1) Low light, the 3x lens is f/2.4 and the 10x lens is f/4.9; significantly "slower". Sometimes the camera decides that you will be "better off" noise wise by using the shorter optical zooms. 2) The 10x just can't focus. Because of the low light or because you are trying to take a picture of something that is too close for the zoom lens. This can happen in good light if you are trying to take a "macro" shot of something close. Unfortunately there does not seem to be any way to know what the camera system is going to decide what to do.
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There is Goodlock module, called Camera Assistant.
There you can turn of automatic switching.

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