Hello, I am interested in buying the P40 Pro. I know that the P40 pro shoots at 12.5 MP by default, but to do this, there is some upscaling. In theory this would result in worse pictures than the Mate 30 Pro. Would it be possible to shoot at a non-scaled resolution, such as 10mp as was the default of prior Huawei flagships, and prevent the upscaling? Thanks
There is no upscaling, there's downscaling.
Main camera provides 50 MP, just devide it by 4 - and you're at 12,5 MP.
So your fears about losses caused by upscaling are quite baseless.
Picture quality is real great, just the Pro mode is close to useless, yet.
Yep, P40P uses 4-in-1 pixel binning to output 12.5MP shots from its 50MP main sensor (50/4=12.5)
I was getting terrible photos versus my previous M30P but after all these firmware updates recently, can safely say it's much better now imo.
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Gsmarena just published the review on the P40 Pro +. The image from the primary is indeed cropped. Only when users shoot at 50mp or at .85 zoom, you can see the uncropped image. This means that the image is indeed being up-scaled by around 20 percent. I don't understand why they just didn't keep it at 10.5MP to prevent this upscaling. Some Huawei phones allow you to shoot at different MPs, does this phone allowed any other image sizes besides the 12.5mp and 50mp while still maintaining aspect ratio?
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^Default 12.5mp images
Shot at .85 zoom which removes the crop.
Thanks so much!
. 85x zoom is not through their ultra wide sensor?
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. 85x zoom is not through their ultra wide sensor?
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I don't think so, in any case, when you shoot a 1x zoom at 50mp, and then 1x zoom at 12.5mp, the 12.5mp image is still cropped. About 20% of the image is cropped off, that means Huawei is doing some upscaling. I don't care about the image being cropped, the edges of most cellphone cameras are pretty much crap anyways, but I don't think they should upscale it.
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After doing some research looking for reviews also real world experience with the camera comparing it with for instance Samsung S9 its clear to me that the Vivo Nex camera is the most underrated camera right now of all flagships.
Please feel free to share your photos and tricks.
My Trick is, dont use the AI mode unless it is night. AI mode seem to make the picture overall brighter but it also makes it loose contrast too. AI mode also seem to over saturate.
In night AI is better. I wish there was a mode where I could take two pictures one with AI and one without AI is saved. Cause its little bit hit and miss sometimes the AI is better but in general using without AI the camera is most consistent.
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After doing some research looking for reviews also real world experience with the camera comparing it with for instance Samsung S9 its clear to me that the Vivo Nex camera is the most underrated camera right now of all flagships.
Please feel free to share your photos and tricks.
My Trick is, dont use the AI mode unless it is night. AI mode seem to make the picture overall brighter but it also makes it loose contrast too. AI mode also seem to over saturate.
In night AI is better. I wish there was a mode where I could take two pictures one with AI and one without AI is saved. Cause its little bit hit and miss sometimes the AI is better but in general using without AI the camera is most consistent.
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Camera is below average in low light in term off details
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And A.I is a big joke
Pictures taken by Nex S.
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I sorry for my English, I use Google Translator.
Few pic from my nex.
Here is some photos I have been taken with the Vivo NEX
https://imgur.com/a/cVVzF6J?grid
I have not tried the 24M mode can some one explain the difference ? I assume the regular mode use pixel binding in favor of more light to the sensor and 24M is probably a better option for really sharp daytime photos ? can some one explain if some one have got better results with the 24M mode in any scenarios ?
So I was comparing photos between the Mi note 10 and the P30 Pro and realized that even though the pictures in 108 mb resolutionin look nice in good lighting, there was a weird smoothing effect going on, especially noticeable in the gras. When I went to the gsm arena photo comparing tool, I noticed that the Mi Note 10 had a somewhat strong blur effect in the pictures (pictures in the link). Is this part of the phones software to remove noise produced due to the high resolution sensor?
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Does anyone have a raw and jpeg of a picture to compare?
if you want to compare the 108 MP picture, you need to compare it with the 40MP of P30, so that you compared picture without pixel binning with another which also dont use pixel binning,
else, the one without, will always looks softer
not to mention bigger sensor mean less depth of field
Yeah there's definitely some smoothing going on when you use the 108mp in poor light conditions. I'd say the 108 mp is only for perfect conditions.
I don't think I'll even use that mode, I just appreciate getting 27 mp binned images, which themselves are a massive improvement over the typical 12mp images from other phones.
well its the same as if u have 300mgbit internet conection
an the site u are trying to download from only support 3mb download u wont get any more than 3mb
its the same wiht 108 mp camera
if the software is bad u wont get a perfect picture untill the software support it
so xiaomi needs to step it up an make the perfect software
even op7pro takes better pict
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well its the same as if u have 300mgbit internet conection
an the site u are trying to download from only support 3mb download u wont get any more than 3mb
its the same wiht 108 mp camera
if the software is bad u wont get a perfect picture untill the software support it
so xiaomi needs to step it up an make the perfect software
even op7pro takes better pict
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xiaomi need to at least catch up with huawei in term of their camera app
Hi everyone,
I bought a Poco X3 NFC, and it is supposed to be capable of 960fps video. The problem is the stock mi camera allows you to film only 4 seconds, of which only the last 1 second is actually in slow motion. This makes it basically impossible to actually film anything, either you are too early or too late.
I have two questions:
- With a different ROM or camera app, will it be possible to simply film video in 960 fps from start to finish, and to film longer than 4 seconds?
- Would it be possible to film with an intermediate speed, like 480 fps, which is not available in the stock software? Or is the hardware not actually capable of this?
Any advice would be appreciated
Thanks,
Joe
U can change it in camera settings.
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Hi everyone,
I bought a Poco X3 NFC, and it is supposed to be capable of 960fps video. The problem is the stock mi camera allows you to film only 4 seconds, of which only the last 1 second is actually in slow motion. This makes it basically impossible to actually film anything, either you are too early or too late.
I have two questions:
- With a different ROM or camera app, will it be possible to simply film video in 960 fps from start to finish, and to film longer than 4 seconds?
- Would it be possible to film with an intermediate speed, like 480 fps, which is not available in the stock software? Or is the hardware not actually capable of this?
Any advice would be appreciated
Thanks,
Joe
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Hi, did you find a solution to this?
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Hi, did you find a solution to this?
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No, sorry. I've given up on doing slow motion video. At least it still takes decent pictures... I'm on a custom ROM though so I don't know that the default apps would be like now.
i'm looking for a phone with a good macro camera to view and take shots of PCB surface mount components. (resistors etc)
looking at the Moto G Stylus G5 since it's macro camera is 5MP. however none of the reviews i've seen include macro shots.
dear reviewers... just because YOU don't have a need for a macro camera, don't assume it's the same for others.
can some owners be kind enough to post some macro shots please?
the closer to an object the better.
A little late but the moto g stylus 5g (original quad lens model) has awful macro shots so hopefully you were able to find something else.
The main rear camera quality is pretty decent at least.
The issue is with the dedicated macro lens, it's really hard to get a good focus on your subject since the lens is fixed focus, so no tap to focus. It's kind of boggling to be honest. I ended up just never using macro mode on the phone and use the main rear cam lens for close up shots.
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A little late but the moto g stylus 5g (original quad lens model) has awful macro shots so hopefully you were able to find something else.
The main rear camera quality is pretty decent at least.
The issue is with the dedicated macro lens, it's really hard to get a good focus on your subject since the lens is fixed focus, so no tap to focus. It's kind of boggling to be honest. I ended up just never using macro mode on the phone and use the main rear cam lens for close up shots.
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many thanks for the info. i've ended up using an old Galaxy S5 (not as a phone) which does a good job at close work.
i can clearly read the surface mount resistor 18R0 (18Ω)
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i may break down and get a dedicated macro image device as i'm getting tired of trying to find 'the one' ungoogled phone.
thanks again. cheers
I've had my Mi 10 Ultra, running the xiaomi.eu ROM, for nearly a year or so. I've found the telephoto camera quality to be very good with still subjects, but introduce any kind of motion to the scene, and it is far worse than the Motorola One Zoom I had before.
Here's an example, a slightly cropped photo from the 5x camera, tracking a moving car:
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What exactly is going on here? The panel gaps between the doors as well as at the base of the A-pillar have multiplied! Likewise, there's ghosting right by the door handles! My hypothesis is that the camera takes multiple exposures and then haphazardly merges them into one. This makes the camera absolutely useless at photographing anything moving. Hell, I get better quality using stills from a video with the 5x camera than by taking an actual photograph!
So; is there any way to turn this crap off? The photo above is taken in Pro mode with manual settings, and all AI things are turned off already...
Have you tried using the "Pro" mode to set custom shutter speeds yourself?
I find it usually works well, although sometimes I need to turn HDR off to stop the multi-exposure capture if the object is moving too fast.
The attached photo was taken in Pro mode, no HDR.
I don't believe this is an exposure time issue, as parts of the car are sharp, and anyway these flaws look a lot more akin to what you'd find in a poorly stitched panorama. You can also see the pattern on the road surface looks weird, as if it was clone-brushed or something.
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I've had my Mi 10 Ultra, running the xiaomi.eu ROM, for nearly a year or so. I've found the telephoto camera quality to be very good with still subjects, but introduce any kind of motion to the scene, and it is far worse than the Motorola One Zoom I had before.
Here's an example, a slightly cropped photo from the 5x camera, tracking a moving car:
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What exactly is going on here? The panel gaps between the doors as well as at the base of the A-pillar have multiplied! Likewise, there's ghosting right by the door handles! My hypothesis is that the camera takes multiple exposures and then haphazardly merges them into one. This makes the camera absolutely useless at photographing anything moving. Hell, I get better quality using stills from a video with the 5x camera than by taking an actual photograph!
So; is there any way to turn this crap off? The photo above is taken in Pro mode with manual settings, and all AI things are turned off already...
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You should try gcam. It becomes a real photo camera... Xiaomi processing is very poor compared to Google's.
I have GCam installed, but rarely use it due to the lack of manual settings. Perhaps I'll give it a try with moving subjects, though. Thanks for the idea.
EDIT: tried it, GCam doesn't produce these exposure fusion artefacts at all.
Stock camera:
GCam: