Mi 10 Ultra - Camera quality issues - Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra Questions & Answers

I've had my Mi 10 Ultra, running the xiaomi.eu ROM, for nearly a year or so. I've found the telephoto camera quality to be very good with still subjects, but introduce any kind of motion to the scene, and it is far worse than the Motorola One Zoom I had before.
Here's an example, a slightly cropped photo from the 5x camera, tracking a moving car:
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What exactly is going on here? The panel gaps between the doors as well as at the base of the A-pillar have multiplied! Likewise, there's ghosting right by the door handles! My hypothesis is that the camera takes multiple exposures and then haphazardly merges them into one. This makes the camera absolutely useless at photographing anything moving. Hell, I get better quality using stills from a video with the 5x camera than by taking an actual photograph!
So; is there any way to turn this crap off? The photo above is taken in Pro mode with manual settings, and all AI things are turned off already...

Have you tried using the "Pro" mode to set custom shutter speeds yourself?
I find it usually works well, although sometimes I need to turn HDR off to stop the multi-exposure capture if the object is moving too fast.

The attached photo was taken in Pro mode, no HDR.
I don't believe this is an exposure time issue, as parts of the car are sharp, and anyway these flaws look a lot more akin to what you'd find in a poorly stitched panorama. You can also see the pattern on the road surface looks weird, as if it was clone-brushed or something.

Aonsaithya said:
I've had my Mi 10 Ultra, running the xiaomi.eu ROM, for nearly a year or so. I've found the telephoto camera quality to be very good with still subjects, but introduce any kind of motion to the scene, and it is far worse than the Motorola One Zoom I had before.
Here's an example, a slightly cropped photo from the 5x camera, tracking a moving car:
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What exactly is going on here? The panel gaps between the doors as well as at the base of the A-pillar have multiplied! Likewise, there's ghosting right by the door handles! My hypothesis is that the camera takes multiple exposures and then haphazardly merges them into one. This makes the camera absolutely useless at photographing anything moving. Hell, I get better quality using stills from a video with the 5x camera than by taking an actual photograph!
So; is there any way to turn this crap off? The photo above is taken in Pro mode with manual settings, and all AI things are turned off already...
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You should try gcam. It becomes a real photo camera... Xiaomi processing is very poor compared to Google's.

I have GCam installed, but rarely use it due to the lack of manual settings. Perhaps I'll give it a try with moving subjects, though. Thanks for the idea.
EDIT: tried it, GCam doesn't produce these exposure fusion artefacts at all.
Stock camera:
GCam:

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Camera 360 works much better then stock cam software.

So I took some pics with different settings in Camera 360 program. I forgot what the settings I selected were but its pretty much all of them.
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This was all done on the phone. No computer side processing.
Oh P.S. these are all seprate pics of the same thing.
better because it has some extra filters?
take some long distance shots with the default camera app, then take the same shot with camera 360, and we'll see which picture looks sharper.
Berserk87 said:
better because it has some extra filters?
take some long distance shots with the default camera app, then take the same shot with camera 360, and we'll see which picture looks sharper.
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Will do in the morning
Yeah, I've taken pictures just as good of close-up flowers with the stock camera app. Those look great though! The camera is pretty excellent on the Captivate IMO.
Some of those filters look fantastic!!
/downloading camera360
for some reason i find that my camera is sub-par.. pictures always come out blurry even though i am very steady. i will try camera 360 and hopefully it will help
So what color is the flower supposed to be? Purple or Red. I'd say that only one of those photos looks good. I think the one where its red looks good, the leaves look a good solid green. The rest look kind of like "neon" lights or something.
I find that my Touch Pro w/ it's 3.2MP camera takes sharper photos than the captivate does indoors. I have a 30" monitor so I can actually verify if the camera is keeping up with the horizontal resolution of 2560. I would rate the effective pixel resolution only at like 2.5MP for the captivate. I would say the rest of the 2.5MP seem extrapolated w/ noise.
While YellowGTO's shots look good, we must remember that they are downsized. I tried out camera 360 as well. But imo that application only applies some digital filters to beef up the picture - I can do this w/ picasa. In the end TP's shots blow those of captivate to dust. Captivate lacks refinement.
Engadget did say that the camera quality is better on the vibrant than it is in the captivate. It would be nice if someone who also has access to the vibrant or the i9000 can compare the refinement abilities.
looks awesome!!!
Does this app let you use the camera on a low battery (unlike the stock)?
Those all look severly over saturated to my eye.
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Does this app let you use the camera on a low battery (unlike the stock)?
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Yes it does.
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Yes it does.
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Which is one of the main advantages of this program. I also like Fxcamera, though the pictures quality looks far worse on the computer than when viewed on the phone.

Improve Night Photography with Snap Camera HDR

I came across this thread on reddit yesterday, by user Chlastek, about how low light photography could be improved on the P2. It's basically a simple process as long as you're rooted. I was skeptical initially because I have previously tried several camera apps (open camera, oneplus, etc...) and didn't quite see the purported "noticeable improvement". I checked the sample photos he provided and was surprised that they were really from the P2. I tried it out myself and the photos came out less grainy, sharper, and just better overall.
Check his thread on reddit for more details. All credits go to him; I'm just the messenger.
1. Stock Camera vs Snap HDR
2. Stock Camera vs Snap HDR
3. Stock Camera vs Snap HDR
4. Stock Camera vs Snap HDR
This Camera app is a great upgrade for our p2 but not a magic application... unfortunately.
After different tests, we can have good results and "correct photos" in the worst conditions :
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Thank you so much for sharing this!
I've been trying out the various camera apps and ports for a while now, but results were always disappointing!
This one is absolutely awesome, and by my tests it works pretty well on daylight too.. if you zoom the pictures taken in auto mode with low light mode on you'll notice they don't have that terrible high-contrast post processing you get with the other apps
Just in case someone's having trouble finding "low light mode" (like I was), in settings - other - Use Camera2 API -> On
Hi
I installed as above but was getting the legacy warning for api2 and read the below which is from the xda thread for the snap camera app.
So not sure if it actually works better (on Lenovo p2) ?
Qte:
I'm almost certain that your phone won't support Camera2, if you get a message about being in "legacy" mode when switching to it then you should never use camera2 mode.
Edit: disregard above had a typo in the command line of build.prop. now there is no more warning about legacy more. Installed also Google camera her+ with same tweak in build prop
medwatt said:
I came across this thread on reddit yesterday, by user Chlastek, about how low light photography could be improved on the P2. It's basically a simple process as long as you're rooted. I was skeptical initially because I have previously tried several camera apps (open camera, oneplus, etc...) and didn't quite see the purported "noticeable improvement". I checked the sample photos he provided and was surprised that they were really from the P2. I tried it out myself and the photos came out less grainy, sharper, and just better overall.
Check his thread on reddit for more details. All credits go to him; I'm just the messenger.
1. Stock Camera vs Snap HDR
2. Stock Camera vs Snap HDR
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Yup I have been using snap cam HDR for low light..... It's superb with less noise and more details....

Question macro camera shots?

i'm looking for a phone with a good macro camera to view and take shots of PCB surface mount components. (resistors etc)
looking at the Moto G Stylus G5 since it's macro camera is 5MP. however none of the reviews i've seen include macro shots.
dear reviewers... just because YOU don't have a need for a macro camera, don't assume it's the same for others.
can some owners be kind enough to post some macro shots please?
the closer to an object the better.
A little late but the moto g stylus 5g (original quad lens model) has awful macro shots so hopefully you were able to find something else.
The main rear camera quality is pretty decent at least.
The issue is with the dedicated macro lens, it's really hard to get a good focus on your subject since the lens is fixed focus, so no tap to focus. It's kind of boggling to be honest. I ended up just never using macro mode on the phone and use the main rear cam lens for close up shots.
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A little late but the moto g stylus 5g (original quad lens model) has awful macro shots so hopefully you were able to find something else.
The main rear camera quality is pretty decent at least.
The issue is with the dedicated macro lens, it's really hard to get a good focus on your subject since the lens is fixed focus, so no tap to focus. It's kind of boggling to be honest. I ended up just never using macro mode on the phone and use the main rear cam lens for close up shots.
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many thanks for the info. i've ended up using an old Galaxy S5 (not as a phone) which does a good job at close work.
i can clearly read the surface mount resistor 18R0 (18Ω)
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i may break down and get a dedicated macro image device as i'm getting tired of trying to find 'the one' ungoogled phone.
thanks again. cheers

Question S22 Ultra Exynos camera issues, (potentially BIG processing issues aswell?)

I've had my phone for close to a month now my model is (SM-908B/DS) and I have been experiencing an issue that I'm hoping it's just software and it would be fixed next updates and not hardware which is when I'm in a dim light/low light place and I try to take a picture of anything this is pretty much the resulting image:
Indoors Normal Camera:
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Indoors 108 MP Camera + Detail enhancer:
Can you guys tell me if this is typical S22 quality in daylight or am I not seeing something here:
Outdoors picture Main Camera:
Outdoors 108 MP daylight + Detail Enhancer:
Same here, white light situations have been improved with the july update but that 108mp shot just doesn't feel like a 108mp shot:
Main Camera white light
108 MP + Detail enhancer white light:
This has been happening since the June update (which is when I got the phone), and the july update made somethings better but overall the problem is still there, camera looks good in daylight/outside but whenever I go in my house where the light is dim or white all pictures look noisy and bad like this and the preview is choppy aswell, here's what I tried so far:
- Clearing cache partition
- Re-optimizing apps
- Factory reset from settings
- Hard factory reset using ODIN
- Updating to the July update and clearing cache which didn't fix my problem
This problem has been going for a while, I didn't seem to care at first because mostly ill want to take pictures outside but I found myself wanting to take pictures inside my home and it's just doesn't feel right anymore, if any of you guys can relate to something similar to my issue lmk down below, I just hope samsung fixes this with software updates :/
There's an article also talking about this issue with Exynos cameras but it was back in april..
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Another problem I found is the camera really acts strange in white light for some reason, this only happened once to me, but it just shows that the camera really needs improvement still on exynos, and most of the time I don't take pictures in white light in my room as they all look fuzzy or have a lot of noise just like the low light/dim light situations:
From the pictures you attached, I can only see, some have 0,8 MP others 108 MP. No Exif data, so the exposure time is not clear and what is the "normal camera" (first picture)?
The subject (dog) usually cannot be captured without motion blur, especially in low light conditions.
For a systematic comparison identical conditions are needed.
Finally, do not expect too much from 108000000 pixels put on a sensor so small. Heavy image processing will not make it better sometimes. But Pixel binning works not bad, just use the far more flexible 12 MP mode. Especially in low light conditions the results are comparatively good.
I got the S22 Ultra from EE on Saturday and the image processing is absolutely dreadful, even on 108MP mode it aint great... I returned my Pixel 6 Pro as I was having constant issues with the software and and I'm honestly about to just go back to it. I hope this along with other issues with the Exynos chip can be fixed with software updates.

Question Terrible front camera performance (Colour balance + Saturation)

Hi,
I was wondering if anyone else experienced this, I quite often make pictures with my front cam and the camera is such a downgrade from my 4 year old Xiaomi Mix 3! The colour balance is all off, almost like they forgot to make a profile for the front cam.
The back camera is just fine, but the front camera often looks like a $20 toy camera just because of this terrible colour balance. I can fix most of my selfies in Google Photos by using a combination of adding warmth (Colour Balance) and adding saturation which makes them look just fine.
For a phone this expensive... this shouldn't be needed. I'd say most mid-level phones even make better selfies then this.
I've tried cleaning the lens but this makes no difference, the Samsung camera app just fails to properly process the colours in the front camera's images.
Because I apparently don't value my privacy, here is a picture as taken by the Samsung camera, and the same picture after adding warmth and saturation.
The original image makes me look lifeless with the skin being very pale, like a zombie almost. It was a nice and sunny day, why do I look like I'm 10 seconds away from my death?
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Anyone else with this issue? Does a modded version of the Samsung camera exist with the possibility to manually define post-processing settings? I just need to have it add more saturation and offset the colour balance
I'm searching for a solution myself, google's Gcam camera is great but I can't find a way to make it use the front camera. I'll be back if I find a way..
beanbean50 said:
I'm searching for a solution myself, google's Gcam camera is great but I can't find a way to make it use the front camera. I'll be back if I find a way..
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I've searched high and wide for a way to make another camera app the default one to get a better front camera selfie (even by disabling Samsung camera) but it seems like the cover screen and Samsung camera are intertwined and cannot be separated.
What we really need is a developer to have a look at the system framework or whatnot and see if something can be done to change the default camera, but they (developers) are a rare breed nowadays.
But on the bright side, if they ever do a remake of the movie weekend at Bernie's I'm pretty sure they'd offer you a part with photos like that..!

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