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I've noticed that my home screen light areas are beginning to burn in, visible when a solid colour is displayed in the same area.
Motion activation is on, and I have been using the same home screen layout for almost the whole time I've owned it.
Has anyone else noticed this issue?
This is an unfortunate side-effect of AMOLED screens, which I thought this watch would have not been susceptible to since it doesn't keep the display on constantly. Also, that has to be way too soon for burn-in on a device that can't be more than a month old. You should maybe contact Samsung or your vendor about a warranty replacement.
I bought the device at launch, which was barely a month ago. That was why I was surprised to see it burning in already.
Returning my Gear 1 for a defective camera involved 3 months of negotiation, 12 store visits, intervention by the office of fair trading and threats of legal action, I might wait until the device is damaged beyond any possible reasonable expectation of function before going through that nonsense again.
So I got the Moto Z for my birthday, September 19th, and today February 6th I have to consider the phone as dead, as there's too many problems with it..
First problem I had with it, was the vibrator, it made a noise as if it's rubbing against the chassis. This happened after about a month and never went away.
It was problem free for the most part, up until after Christmas, when I put it in my pocket, went for a walk with the dogs, pulled the phone out mid walk and.. The screen was cracked.
A single hairline crack from edge to edge.
I've noticed the glass lifting off the frame on the right side, and so I believe the battery is swelling up and this caused the crack.
There's no pixel damage, but after this all kinds of problems have been surfacing, the screen won't always turn on when someone is calling.
The bottom proximity sensor won't always wake the screen any more.
The finger print sensor is made of plastic, and is now so scratched that I have trouble unlocking the phone with it.
Battery life was never even half decent, if I didn't charge it to and from work I couldn't make it last 12 hours.
Now it's even worse obviously.
Phone can die at any time when it drops below 10% charge, like no "shutting down" notification, screen just goes black.
Connecting the charger it'll go from 0% to 15% in seconds, or take 20 minutes to even boot again.
The ringtone/earpiece speaker has cracked, and is completely unusable now, at the very lowest volume there's a marked crackling noise, turning it up you can't hear what people say on youtube or when making calls.
The magnetic compass has never worked right, it'll make large jumps when turned south, by about 20 degrees west or east.
Makes playing Pokémon Go quite difficult as it'll jump uncontrollably around the south mark.
Occasionally the map will just keep rotating until you make the calibration movements 2-3 times.
It'll drop 4G connectivity and the reception is about half as many bars as my Moto X 2014.
The frame was bent when I climbed up a attic ladder, so the aluminium quality is rubbish. (A few weeks after the self-cracking incident)
I tried contacing Lenovo, but they won't take the battery for warranty as the glass is cracked, the fact that I tried telling them the crack is because of the battery was left on deaf ears.
My wife's HTC One M7 had the same thing happen after 11 months and they replaced the entire phone no questions asked.
Lenovo didn't keep the hardware designers, and is simply trying to churn out a few Lenovo phones with the Moto name before the brand name is truly dead.
In conclusion; Motorola is dead. Don't buy this phone.
You maybe got a bad one, it can happens. I also have the Moto Z and I use it everyday with my moto 360, I bought both like 3 month ago. Also I'm on Nougat and I don't have any issue that you describe, the only thing I also notice is the phone auto shutdown but below 5% which I find normal to save the battery, other phones maybe shutdown at 1% but in fact there still a couple of % more left.
Wow that sucks. Sounds like you got a dud. My Z has been excellent. battery has been amazing and haven't had any problems with the vibration motor.
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Wow that sucks. Sounds like you got a dud. My Z has been excellent. battery has been amazing and haven't had any problems with the vibration motor.
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Same here. I've had it since November and no problems at all.
Hahahahahahaha That was a funny post. It was satire right?
I've had 4 Moto Z's and loved them all. 2 Verizon variants, 1 Verizon Force variant, and one US unlocked. The frame on this phone is incredibly sturdy as seen here:
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All of the damage to your phone has nothing to do with Motorola and everything to do with YOU. Phones don't damage themselves, the speakers don't crack, the fingerprint readers dont scratch themselves, it was you. It sounds like you trashed your phone and now are trying to place blame on someone else (Motorola).
For you to come in here and tell everyone not to buy this phone is absurd. Like I said, I've had 4 of these phones and not one has shown any problems at all. The problem is yourself, not Motorola, not Lenovo, not self-shattering glass, and not self-scratching metal.
You dropped your phone down a flight of concrete stairs and it fell end over end bouncing on every step on the way down. It cracked your screen, scratched your fingerprint reader, jarred your vibrator loose, cracked your speaker, and uncalibrated your compass. Lol That's what happened.
PS the proximity sensor can be finicky. That's the one thing I'll give you. The rest is "rubbish".
BTW, that "sudden shutdown" I experience on my G5, too and it's really bad. After 10-12 it gets down rapidly and sometimes it takes only 30 seconds of usage for the phone to shut down after you are 10%.
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BTW, that "sudden shutdown" I experience on my G5, too and it's really bad. After 10-12 it gets down rapidly and sometimes it takes only 30 seconds of usage for the phone to shut down after you are 10%.
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The battery expanding, cracking the screen, and causing the phone to shutdown randomly at or below 10% should be replaced as a defect. He has a good point with that part. But unfortunately in the warranty it specifically states everything to do with the battery is not covered under warranty. Pretty sneaky way of Lenovo to basically *not* warranty this phone because the battery is locked in and part of the whole construction.
I have to agree, if you haven't bought one yet, don't do it. I do like this phone for its features and mods, but it is designed to be completely disposable. Prices of phones with locked in batteries really should be half the price of what they are.
Dude you need a Z force
If I couldn't have a Force and camera wasn't a huge issue, I'd get a Play. I see no point getting a Z if you can get either the Force or Play unless you just want a really skinny phone.
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Hahahahahahaha That was a funny post. It was satire right?
I've had 4 Moto Z's and loved them all. 2 Verizon variants, 1 Verizon Force variant, and one US unlocked. The frame on this phone is incredibly sturdy as seen here:
https://youtu.be/kZOfYo4JDIw
All of the damage to your phone has nothing to do with Motorola and everything to do with YOU. Phones don't damage themselves, the speakers don't crack, the fingerprint readers dont scratch themselves, it was you. It sounds like you trashed your phone and now are trying to place blame on someone else (Motorola).
For you to come in here and tell everyone not to buy this phone is absurd. Like I said, I've had 4 of these phones and not one has shown any problems at all. The problem is yourself, not Motorola, not Lenovo, not self-shattering glass, and not self-scratching metal.
You dropped your phone down a flight of concrete stairs and it fell end over end bouncing on every step on the way down. It cracked your screen, scratched your fingerprint reader, jarred your vibrator loose, cracked your speaker, and uncalibrated your compass. Lol That's what happened.
PS the proximity sensor can be finicky. That's the one thing I'll give you. The rest is "rubbish".
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Why would I lie?
I'm genuinely sad, this was my birthday present (to myself) after a really long wait, as I couldn't afford the 2015 model last year.
I haven't mistreated it, I've been super careful.
I've been a Motorola fanboy since the V3i, owned most models since then.
Based on teardowns, it's built like a Lenovo device, and that confirms it for me at least that they've probably fired the old chassis engineers.
I know it's a bit ridiculous, but I feel a bit lost now, I want a new smartphone, but there's no other brands I've ever enjoyed..
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Why would I lie?
I'm genuinely sad, this was my birthday present (to myself) after a really long wait, as I couldn't afford the 2015 model last year.
I haven't mistreated it, I've been super careful.
I've been a Motorola fanboy since the V3i, owned most models since then.
Based on teardowns, it's built like a Lenovo device, and that confirms it for me at least that they've probably fired the old chassis engineers.
I know it's a bit ridiculous, but I feel a bit lost now, I want a new smartphone, but there's no other brands I've ever enjoyed..
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I'm still using my Moto X (2014) and similarly consider the Moto Z (dual SIM preferably) as my only attractive upgrade.
I empathize with the poor experience you've suffered with it, especially as it was a birthday gift. However, I suspect that your experience is the exception and that you received a dud. It happens. And although Motorola's warranty and customer service seem very poor, perhaps you might consider repurchasing when prices drop after the new model is released. I am currently researching root and other support options for the dual SIM variant before "pulling the trigger" (on eBay)...
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I put it in my pocket, went for a walk with the dogs, pulled the phone out mid walk and.. The screen was cracked
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You bent the frame, you either leaned on something, or if your pants were too tight, just compressed it too much. It's crap luck, but it's not motorola's fault, nor is it a warranty claim.
Your battery would only expand enough to crack a screen if it were very highly overheated. like, shorting out overheated, in the 80-90 degree range, basically hot enough that you would have had second and third degree burns in your pocket (battery expansion occurs at about 90 degrees on average in lithium cells, there are many, many, many studies on this subject, especially since Samsung last year)
The finger print sensor is made of plastic, and is now so scratched that I have trouble unlocking the phone with it.
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Stop carrying your phone in a pocket filled with change?! or something? I've had my moto Z the better part of a year, and my fingerprint sensor is spotless, I can't even imagine how you scratched yours.
Phone can die at any time when it drops below 10% charge
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Do you know how lithium batteries work? 10% across 6 cells mean each cell has less than 2% battery.... at less than 1% you do irreparable damage to a cell, it will never take a full charge again if you drain it completely. So unfortunately, 10% is actually a completely reasonable number to shut down at.
Speaker breaking? No idea how you accomplished that, usually take a pretty solid impact or water damage to blow a phone speaker to the point of cracking even at the lowest volumes.
Reception wise, I'll admit mine shows less "bars" but remains connected regardless. It's less about not having signal, and more, appearing to have less.
I will agree, the compass isn't the greatest, it's easily calibrated though (using google maps)
Sound like you bent your phone, and if you hadn't, you'd have a warranty claim on the speaker, and "possibly" the battery. But since you broke your screen, you're screwed. You SHOULD be able to send it in for repair and pay them to fix it/replace it, usually for much less than the cost of replacing it.
Sorry about your luck mate.
I decided to follow up on this review with my one year review of the phone.
So far I have none of the problems you have listed, and I'm very careless with my tech (Read: Broken every single screen on every phone I have ever owned)
The only complaint I have is that the finger print sensor gets dirty easily, though I assume that's more likely a mix of the finish on it and my fingers getting oily.
Battery life is meh, but I have the battery mod so no problems yet (2-3 days usually with my usage, as opposed to the Xperia X being 4-5)
I do have one problem with your review, apart from many of the problems seeming self inflicted, this one particularly stands out.
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First problem I had with it, was the vibrator, it made a noise as if it's rubbing against the chassis. This happened after about a month and never went away.
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This sounds like a manufacturer defect.
That should've been the moment you asked for a return or warranty repair.
I see that they have confirmed 100000 flips. 28 flips per day for 5 years. The problem is, I'm pretty sure that we're going to use more than 28 flips a day e.g. face unlock, manual flip control, Instagram stories, video calls, taking multiple front video clips (vloggers) etc. I'm a bit worried about it failing in 2 years. So would it be durable enough for the long run?
Only way to find out is waiting 2 years I guess, it's hard to judge. In case Asus messes things up and they start to break everywhere then that would not only hurt Asus's image but also overal all motor controlled camera's.
I personally think it would be fine, perhaps a iFixit rating would soften the blow if they would deem it easy to repair.
That would likely suggest it has ~10% chance of failure after 100,000 flips, and very, very few people would average more than 25 a day over 2 years.
The mech looks well designed, to me.
However if you drop your phone a lot, this probably isn't the device for you.
I'm really not worried at all.
I think the YouTuber JerryRigEverything is gonna do a test on the durability of the camera in the next few weeks, since he's already pre-ordered it.
That being said, it should last for 2-3 years when most users would be onto another phone, and it doesn't seem like it will break anytime soon.
I'm not actually worried, I'm just a bit concerned about longevity.
I already spotted a video on youtube of a guy having one where the camera would not return flat properly already, but it was in spanish so hard to understand.
I'm more worried about dust, lint, and other flotsam and jetsam getting behind, beneath, and alongside the mechanism thereby causing it to gunk up and either not open, or not close properly. I'll stick with my OnePlus 6 non-T version.
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I'm more worried about dust, lint, and other flotsam and jetsam getting behind, beneath, and alongside the mechanism thereby causing it to gunk up and either not open, or not close properly. I'll stick with my OnePlus 6 non-T version.
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True, the OnePlus 7 pro has a rubber ring around the base of the pop up camera. The zenfone 6 doesnt have any kind of water protection. So that might be an issue.
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True, the OnePlus 7 pro has a rubber ring around the base of the pop up camera. The zenfone 6 doesnt have any kind of water protection. So that might be an issue.
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Until we see a tear-down, I wouldn't be so sure that there isn't any protection. I've heard it's at least splash resistant which I think most models are these days. One thing is not having IP certification but you don't need that to make rudimentary rubber seals.
Of course it'll be difficult to do especially with how much of it is exposed. It's definitely easier for the 7 Pro because pretty much all of it is internal.
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I'm not actually worried, I'm just a bit concerned about longevity.
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Now days no one bothered keep a device for more than 2 years. So, it doesn't bother much.
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Now days no one bothered keep a device for more than 2 years. So, it doesn't bother much.
Stepper motor!
We all have to wait for a proper teardown of zenfone 6.
But I am sure the liquid cool metal stepper motors are quite durable.
Company claims 28 selfies everyday for 5 years.
We'll have to wait a little until we get to know how reliable is the flip camera. But it feels reliable and strong from what I've seen so far
Keep them oil d up
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Keep them oil d up
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Don't do this if you don't want to kill your camera!
my camera motor failed in 6 weeks. Sent it in for repair and looks like they are waiting on parts...
As far durability is there but problem is dust accumulation and hinge is getting loose (not getting fully retract).
I was skeptical about the durability but so far camera is sturdy.
Week after owning mine hinge was now loose
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Week after owning mine hinge was now loose
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After almost seven months of operation, I see absolutely no difference from how it worked the first day.
I got my phone on 5July 2019 and till date it's working flawlessly. Even it once fell into road side drain and was fully sunk in water for about 8-10sec but it runs buttery smooth and thus the camera.
IMO this phone is just superb and much more better than Chinese ****s like Vivo, OP, Oppo, Xiaomi etc
Hi. I have a Xiaomi Note 7 Pro for 4 months now . Woke up and the screen would not come on. It was freezing slightly the other day so i plugged in the charger to see if it needed a boost. Nothing. No notification light or anything. I keep my phone in a plastic/silicone phone case that i bought when purchasing the phone. I took the phone out of the case thinking maybe the port is being blocked by the case and tried charging it again and still nothing. Then i unplugged the charger and recognized that the plug was wet. Took out my sim tray and they are wet too. Now i never dropped my phone in any water at all. What could have caused this? Must I avoid phone cases? The phone will not turn on but when i try to turn it on it heats up. The first time i tried turning it on it vibrated a little then never again. Can someone please tell me what may have happened? That's US $300 gone down the drain. I literally cried cuz it was a huge sacrifice to buy that phone and I really loved it. I am located in Kingston, Jamaica. Help!!!
You swimming with your phone? or you put your phone in your pants and sweat a lot ?
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You swimming with your phone? or you put your phone in your pants and sweat a lot ?
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Nope. I am a very careful woman when it comes to my phones. I normally change phones when the Android gets old and certain apps can no longer work with it. That is how long phones last for me. I do not know how to swim and i do not keep phones in my pocket...i am against that idea all to complete. I am doing some reading and someone mentioned on another forum that TPU cases can cause heat build up and hence moisture will develop. Would that amount of moisture be enough to damage the phone? Because the case i had is indeed TPU. My environment is not very hot either. Nor too wet. Also I am left to wonder if I should avoid cases altogether...but i need to protect my phone. Mind you, i am not the clumsy type...but just very careful.
For that, first put it on Rice during 3 days or a week.
Then, try again to switch it on.
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About the reasons, Rain maybe?
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Zalext said:
For that, first put it on Rice during 3 days or a week.
Then, try again to switch it on.
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If it was in the rain then i would understand but it was never in the rain nor near a window for any rain to get to it. I doubt it can be saved again. Its been 2 days now and still nothing. It is not even heating up. Its completely gone. And to make matters worse, I cannot even make use of the warranty because it will cost me 1/2 the money spent to buy it to send it to Xiaomi for them to look at it or even try to repair it. Also, there is no Xiaomi distributor in Jamaica hence I cannot even try to have it repaired. Its a complete loss. Guess I will have to avoid these brands in the future since if there is an issue with the phone there will be little to no chances of it being repaired. Yes, i would have tried to repair it since i actually enjoyed the phone.
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For that, first put it on Rice during 3 days or a week.
Then, try again to switch it on.
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So its been a week now and i tried it again. The notification light finally comes on and was able to give it charge. Then I tried turning it on. It vibrated. And then notifications keep coming in. But.......no display. So it is working again but the display is gone. Is it worth trying to fix that? Often times I hear that repairing the display of a phone is almost the cost of a new phone. So im indecisive on this one. I bought a Samsung Galaxy S10+ as replacement. My only issue is that the camera for the Redmi is better but oh well...
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So its been a week now and i tried it again. The notification light finally comes on and was able to give it charge. Then I tried turning it on. It vibrated. And then notifications keep coming in. But.......no display. So it is working again but the display is gone. Is it worth trying to fix that? Often times I hear that repairing the display of a phone is almost the cost of a new phone. So im indecisive on this one. I bought a Samsung Galaxy S10+ as replacement. My only issue is that the camera for the Redmi is better but oh well...
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If the only thing that's damaged is the display, you can get a cheap local replacement, it won't really matter( They usually replace the glass, the touchscreen is below that, but this phone's got Gorilla Glass 5, dunno how it would affect that). But if the water has affected a major component, booting the phone might have shorted it or damaged it further.
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If the only thing that's damaged is the display, you can get a cheap local replacement, it won't really matter( They usually replace the glass, the touchscreen is below that, but this phone's got Gorilla Glass 5, dunno how it would affect that). But if the water has affected a major component, booting the phone might have shorted it or damaged it further.
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Ok. Well I hope nothing else is wrong with it. Also, it turns out there are repair folks here in Jamaica who repairs Xiaomi. I had no idea Jamaicans bought Xiaomi phones! Found out the cost to install the glass and its cheap to my surprise! Its my first so...you know.... Anyhow, now I need to force turn the phone off cuz all alarms keep going off at their time of day as well as notifications from the many apps I have keep coming in. Its getting annoying man. Its gonna take a while for the battery to die cuz trust me, it really does last long which is why I love this phone.
Anyway, many thanks for the help guys! Its greatly appreciated!
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Ok. Well I hope nothing else is wrong with it. Also, it turns out there are repair folks here in Jamaica who repairs Xiaomi. I had no idea Jamaicans bought Xiaomi phones! Found out the cost to install the glass and its cheap to my surprise! Its my first so...you know.... Anyhow, now I need to force turn the phone off cuz all alarms keep going off at their time of day as well as notifications from the many apps I have keep coming in. Its getting annoying man. Its gonna take a while for the battery to die cuz trust me, it really does last long which is why I love this phone.
Anyway, many thanks for the help guys! Its greatly appreciated!
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Glad to hear it ^_^
You can try again for another week on rice.
If there are repair center great, they could test connexions.
Otherwise, you can also search at YouTube for DIY screen replacement and find it in AliXpress.
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So long story short, I went to bed last night with my pixel 7 pro on charge woke up this morning and the screen is cracked? has anyone else seen this, i know the older pixel 6 had an issue with screens cracking and looks like this might be introduced into the 7 too.
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So long story short, I went to bed last night with my pixel 7 pro on charge woke up this morning and the screen is cracked? has anyone else seen this, i know the older pixel 6 had an issue with screens cracking and looks like this might be introduced into the 7 too.
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oh no, had the same with p6p. Google wont do anything, because they'll gonna say: user error!
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oh no, had the same with p6p. Google wont do anything, because they'll gonna say: user error!
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yes already been on phone to them this morning and exactly what you say... user error, obvisouly this is a manufactoring fault where it is now costing me £250 for a replacement screen on top of the nearly £900 for the phone thats a month old.
This is my second pixel, first one was a long time ago, had many phones between and no issues but this has given me doubts now about the pixel 7. My main worry is replacing it and the screen going again.
First and foremost, I'm NOT challenging you with the crack.
But how on earth can a screen crack if it's lying still all night? What physics could be causing that?
I can imagine, however unlikely, that a big temperature drop could cause that, for example when you're camping or sleeping with the window open in extreme winter conditions or something like that.
I can also imagine that charging the phone might have to do with it, maybe there's a hw fault that made the phone charge to fast, heating it up in a cold room. stress on the screen, crack. Could it be a type of vibration that transmitted to the phone somehow? From a heater, air purifier, something like that?
Did you eliminate things like that?
Good questions, I have done exactly the same for the past month put phone on the dressing table plug it in and let it charge, this time however after noticing the crack I also noticed the charge was only at 72%, it had adaptive charing enabled and said it would be fully charged by 6:30 am but was up at 6am.
So no vibrations, no temapture changes (not enough to cause this) strange one, I just know the night sleep cost me £250 arrr just hope it never happens again.
As can see in photo the main crack goes from right to left and has web cracks too.
The photo is a bit blurry but it doesn't look like one crack to me, more like the glass is shattered. Strange...
Not calling you a liar, but that really does look like an impact which occurred at the most vulnerable part of the screen edge. No chance that you unknowingly may have accidently bumped the corner of the night stand when setting it down, or had something on your nightstand which may have gotten knocked over and nicked the screen? Basically, pointed force on a very small surface area. It looks very much like every iPhone screen my wife has shattered.
Could also be that the screen was accidently nicked without a noticeable crack but when the charger was put on the heat made the crack grow and spread, similar to a car windshield crack when the defroster is put on.
Or just plain faulty manufacturing...
Shattered screen means "something" caused it from the outside...or the inside!
If you didn't hit the screen somehow then maybe the battery swelled and internal pressure caused this? I say this because of the aforementioned charging anomaly.
I actually avoided the Pixel 6 Pro because of all the reports of this happening and figured the 7 Pro must be fixed. It's sad to see that may not be the case.
That said, yours definitely looks way more like an impact than the spontaneous cracking pictures I've seen. Those also almost all happened at the corners where the glass would be at its highest tension instead of near the center of the screen like yours plus yours has spread all over which means there was a lot of energy to dissipate. You're sure nothing could have happened to it?
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As can see in photo the main crack goes from right to left and has web cracks too.
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That looks identical to what did for my S21 Ultra. Dropped and landed with an impact right on the edge of the screen in the center, with the crack looking very similar.
As others have said, I'm not saying you're being dishonest for a minute, but that really does look like impact damage to me.