[Black Shark 3 Pro] 7.1 inch, WQHD+ AMOLED, 90hz, 65W charging (Mate 20 X killer?) - Huawei Mate 20 X Guides, News, & Discussion

Today Xiaomi released the Black Shark 3 Pro with 7.1 inch screen. The phone has almost the same size screen like the Mate 20 X, but with higher WQHD+ resolution, 90hz refresh rate and much more!
Key Specs :
- Qualcomm Snapdragon 865
- 7.1" Super AMOLED screen
- WQHD+ display (3120x1440)
- Flat display, not curved
- Full screen, no punch hole(s) or notch
- 19.5:9 aspect ratio
- 90Hz Refresh Rate
- 270Hz touch sampling Rate
- 12GB LPDDR5-RAM
- 512GB Storage
- UFS 3.0
- 64MP+13MP + 5MP
- 256MP Super-pixel technology
- 20MP Front Camera
- Record 4K video @ 60fps
- 5000Ah Battery
- 65 watt fast charging
- 18W Magnetic Charger
- Mechanical pop-up shoulder triggers
- Dual front-facing stereo speakers
- In-display fingerprint scanner
- 3.5 mm audiojack
- Dual Mode 5G
- UFS 3.0
- WiFi6
Huawei Mate 20 X comparison @ GSMarena
What do you think? Will this be the Mate 20 X killer?

The 5G might kill the battery, but it does looks good

That back gaming gimmick design isn't my cup of tea, looks awkward and that big tencent game logo. Also these triggers buttons are useless to me.
If you're a heavy phone gamer its definitely worth it though.

I just saw this in xda news
Looks great.
Has to be more affordable than the s20 ultra by a wide margin. $715
Are these phones easy to boot loader unlock and root?

Rudolpht said:
I just saw this in xda news
Looks great.
Has to be more affordable than the s20 ultra by a wide margin. $715
Are these phones easy to boot loader unlock and root?
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Same question.. bootloader unlock and hopefully custom firmware as well? Lineage OS or something?
Did some research and the bands won't really work with AT&T.. Only 2 of 4 LTE. Sad face..

One thing to note , you won't get many updates on these phones.
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Limeybastard said:
One thing to note , you won't get many updates on these phones.
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No? Xiaomi is third place with updates, little better than Huawei
https://www.counterpointresearch.co...ankings-updating-smartphone-software-security

I've been looking at this one since it was announced.
If I can't get my hands on a good deal Mate Xs trough some of the local operators, I'll definitely be getting it instead!

Or Mi 10s same Screen Size 7,1.

letschky said:
Or Mi 10s same Screen Size 7,1.
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Not yet confirmed and i think it will have lower specs than Black Shark 3 Pro.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2020/03/...-10-s-with-an-even-bigger-display-in-h2-2020/

Derpling said:
The 5G might kill the battery, but it does looks good
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But I think there should be an option to lower the speed to LTE. I'm guessimg but not sure. But anyway even if it doesn't, I don't mind since 95% of the time I'll be using wifi. So battery won't be an issue.
Limeybastard said:
One thing to note , you won't get many updates on these phones.
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That makes no sense. Although these are niche phones they are flagship in their own right considering the specs and peice.
I say updates will be regular. They have to be again according to the hefty price tag and high spec sheet.

Jojokoo said:
But I think there should be an option to lower the speed to LTE. I'm guessimg but not sure. But anyway even if it doesn't, I don't mind since 95% of the time I'll be using wifi. So battery won't be an issue.
That makes no sense. Although these are niche phones they are flagship in their own right considering the specs and peice.
I say updates will be regular. They have to be again according to the hefty price tag and high spec sheet.
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Remember the Shark doesn't support TMobile bands at all 4g LTE. Maybe if they introduce an international model it might.
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Does it support AT&T?

Hack2geo said:
Does it support AT&T?
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According to info I saw it supports tmobile and at&t. In terms of 4g coverage you'll be ok as long as you're in a big city.

Hack2geo said:
Does it support AT&T?
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Here are the bands from the Chinese Black Shark 3 Pro website.
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Hack2geo said:
Does it support AT&T?
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Here are the bands from the Chinese Black Shark 3 Pro website.
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Exactlty.. supports it. Can't wait to use in USA when it comes out.

WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Here are the bands from the Chinese Black Shark 3 Pro website.
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Has one less tmobile band than that mate 20x. LTE band 2. Used often for me.
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Black Shark 3 Pro vs Mate 20 X

Nope, this 19.5:9 kills it.
2:49 min.

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[SPECS] LG G Flex 2 Specifications

Hey all
This is LG's second attempt in the flex series of smartphones. This version features an updated 1080p screen from the outgoing 720p display found in the first version, but LG has made the decision to reduce the display size to 5.5 inches from 6 inches, making the device a little more pocket friendly. LG have also increased the curve from 2 points to 4, they claim making the device feel even more natural in the hand. The device is also one of the first to boast the snapdragon 810 chipset, which offers 64 bit instruction set and access to LPDDR4 RAM. The processor itself is made using a 20nm process, increasing the devices power efficiency. The flex 2 also offers the latest Adreno™ 430 GPU, offering 30% better performance, 20% less power usage than last generation of snapdragon chipset. Coming in with 2 versions, a 16 GB with 2 GB of RAM and a 32 GB offering 3 GB.
But the standout feature is that curved display, what do members make of it, useful feature, or just another gimmick?
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Display - Curved P-OLED, 5.5 inches, 1080 x 1920 pixels (~403 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810
CPU - Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2 GHz Cortex-A57
GPU - Adreno 430
RAM - 2 GB/3 GB dependent on version
Memory - 16/32 GB
Camera - 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, laser autofocus, optical image stabilization, dual-LED flash
Secondary Camera - 2.1 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 3000 mAh
Dimensions - 149.1 x 75.3 x 7.1-9.4 mm
Weight - 152g
Color Availability - Platinum Silver, Flamenco Red​
Source: gsmarena
Im surprised they didnt upgrade the camera from 13mp.
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Ihe ram is said to be DDR4 RAM as well.
Looking forward to this device.
force70 said:
Im surprised they didnt upgrade the camera from 13mp.
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just another useless phone from LG
seems like it could be an interesting toy
Wonder if there's any chance it'll get wireless charging.
Silly to ask for, but it's become so convenient that I think I'd miss it.
roy5000x2 said:
Wonder if there's any chance it'll get wireless charging.
Silly to ask for, but it's become so convenient that I think I'd miss it.
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Doubt it, if you flex it a bit now and then it would break the coil.
To be honest, the phone curving is really note useful.
rumactifin said:
To be honest, the phone curving is really note useful.
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Maybe not for you, but for us who owned or used a G Flex mostly loves it. There are millions of other flat phones, you didn't need to come here and waste time.
I am disappointed in the RAM. They should be offering 3 standard, with an option for 4. Other than that, it is impressive.
why are they showing a photo of the first g flex in this forum? also it looks like a nice device but i may stay clear of any devices that release with the s810 until they revise it because of overheating.
fix-this! said:
why are they showing a photo of the first g flex in this forum? also it looks like a nice device but i may stay clear of any devices that release with the s810 until they revise it because of overheating.
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Any person on XDA would read reviews before buying a device. We'll see by the end of the week, when south Korea gets the first batch, if there is any problem and if so how bad it is. My guess is it's not as bad as media rumours make it sound.
Awesome phone. Will buy soon.
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I am disappointed in the RAM. They should be offering 3 standard, with an option for 4. Other than that, it is impressive.
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Totally man. Current LG G3 is the 3GB RAM with 32GB storage. So cool that they made that option.
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4ndroid4Life said:
Totally man. Current LG G3 is the 3GB RAM with 32GB storage. So cool that they made that option.
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Here in Korea, at least, the only option is color. I ordered a 32GB Platinum Gray and it comes with 2GB. Oh well.
spectator02 said:
Here in Korea, at least, the only option is color. I ordered a 32GB Platinum Gray and it comes with 2GB. Oh well.
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Do you know when the first in Korea goes out to costumers? LG said 30th, but not a single unboxing online, it did all go to people who don't use the internet?
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Do you know when the first in Korea goes out to costumers? LG said 30th, but not a single unboxing online, it did all go to people who don't use the internet?
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It was a strange situation... I preordered on the 23rd, but my order was canceled. I ordered again today. The first time, the 공시지원금 (not sure how to translate...) was missing. The second time, it was added (so the phone was MUCH cheaper!!). I think all the preorders were canceled to add the 공시지원금.
I think the phone was also available in a few stores starting today, so there should be some unboxings soon.
force70 said:
Im surprised they didnt upgrade the camera from 13mp.
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More mp doesn't = better camera
Infact in many cases it will give worse shots in anything but ideal lighting conditions.
Brac20 said:
More mp doesn't = better camera
Infact in many cases it will give worse shots in anything but ideal lighting conditions.
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Thats generalizing saying more mp doesnt equal a better camera and true to a point only.
My note 4 takes far better shots than my note 3 or 2 and guess what..more mp.
In your thinking it should be worse lol. We all know there is much more to a camera than mp dude...goes without saying pretty much.
Perhaps i should have just said im surprised they didnt improve the camera lol?
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force70 said:
Thats generalizing saying more mp doesnt equal a better camera and true to a point only.
My note 4 takes far better shots than my note 3 or 2 and guess what..more mp.
In your thinking it should be worse lol. We all know there is much more to a camera than mp dude...goes without saying pretty much.
Perhaps i should have just said im surprised they didnt improve the camera lol?
sent from Canada via my Note 4, 3, 2 or S3
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Sorry I didn't mean to sound like it's the only factor, it just seemed that you really wanted more mp. Apparently they have made some improvements to the ois and the software so it may well give better images than the g3 anyway.

Huawei Honor Magic - Links to early hands on and unboxing

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Honor Magic tucks Huawei's latest smarts into a slab of glass
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/16/huawei-honor-magic/
Huawei Honor Magic Official: Curved On All Eight Sides, Intelligent Magic Live Assistant (Everything you need to know)
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/12/1...nt-magic-live-assistant-everything-need-know/
Honor Magic Review (Use Google Chrome translate)
http://mobile.pconline.com.cn/867/8679962.html
Videos:
Launch event handson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhkjMzvunJg
Unboxing:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg2ODk4MzMyMA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Nzc4ODAxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3OTM4NDg2MA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3ODczNTcxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Disassembling and reinstalling:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIxOTE0NA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIyMzY5Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Added 01/01/2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3T7RRoCkC4
https://kknews.cc/digital/6k9g4l3.html
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11666631-1-1.html
Xiaomi Mix vs Honor Magic
http://www.yzmg.com/shouji/171018.html
http://fonyzciny.startitup.sk/xiaomi-mi-mix-vs-honor-magic/
Added 02/01/2017:
Xiaomi Note 2 vs Honor Magic
http://www.1885888.com/licai/1597127x.shtml
Good quality images of the Honor Magic:
http://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309404057438549622002
http://www.v4.cc/News-3233254.html
http://photo.weibo.com/1094293345/talbum/detail/photo_id/4058066245383655?prel=p6_3#4058066245383660
https://www.behance.net/gallery/46762767/-Magic
Added 03/01/2017:
Camera performance
http://www.honor.cn/brand/brand-news-detail/131113/
Added 07/01/2017:
Detailed review in Italian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI6y4OjTdM0
Phonearena handson at CES 2017:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...e-most-magical-smartphone-of-CES-2017_id89734
High quality unboxing photos:
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11762304-1-1.html
Added 08/01/2017:
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11782464-1-1.html
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11741705-1-1.html
Added 16/01/2017:
http://www.cfan.com.cn/2017/0113/128032.shtml
Mi Mix vs Honor Magic (video)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ3MjYxMzc4OA==.html?spm=a2h0k.8191407.0.0.0Wolln&from=s1.8-1-1.2
Added 17/01/2017:
http://www.yzmg.com/pingce/172230.html
Added 18/01/2017:
Great dismantling images:
http://mobile.zol.com.cn/slide/624/6244727_1.html#p=1
Added: 22/01/2017
Honor magic camera shots
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4948658196?pn=1
Review from China:
http://www.dgtle.com/article-17108-1.html
Some gorgeous images from the same site:
http://www.dgtle.com/article-16911-1.html
10/02/2017
Review after 1 month use
http://www.shafa.com/articles/zFljfGMvXAVnOjBT.html
Mi Mix vs Honor magic
http://tech.qianlong.com/2017/0210/1387822.shtml
In reply to your previous post, I live in Hong Kong, I have pre ordered it on JD.com, I can visit china anytime. i will see if huawei official store have them, I don't like purchase online, so I prefer a instore purchase, worse case, is I don't buy one, i't not important.
Do you know if the magic is a limited edition, I mean limited supply, or will they stop production after awhile.
kms108 said:
Do you know if the magic is a limited edition, I mean limited supply, or will they stop production after awhile.
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No i haven't seen any talk of it being a limited edition or any tone that implies that.
It should sell no different to the Honor 6 plus in which the dual camera was first tested before it was implemented on other Huawei phones.
warea said:
No i haven't seen any talk of it being a limited edition or any tone that implies that.
It should sell no different to the Honor 6 plus in which the dual camera was first tested before it was implemented on other Huawei phones.
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So even if I wait for a few more weeks or months, they should be constant supply, ive already have a LG V20 and a Sony Xperia X performance so i'm not in a rush.
I was getting ready to buy the Beyerdynamic Xelento IEM, then I heard about the Magic, if there is no rush I will probably get the IEM first, so I can skip all the inflations, but during my visit to china on ther 9th January ( I visit china 1-2 a month), and if I do see it, I can pick one up, but i'm not going to buy it if the price is inflated, thats why I ask if they have a limited supply or a dead line before they stop selling it. But due to the high cost in making this curve screen, not sure if Huawei will keep selling the magic.
kms108 said:
So even if I wait for a few more weeks or months, they should be constant supply, ive already have a LG V20 and a Sony Xperia X performance so i'm not in a rush.
I was getting ready to buy the Beyerdynamic Xelento IEM, then I heard about the Magic, if there is no rush I will probably get the IEM first, so I can skip all the inflations, but during my visit to china on ther 9th January ( I visit china 1-2 a month), and if I do see it, I can pick one up, but i'm not going to buy it if the price is inflated, thats why I ask if they have a limited supply or a dead line before they stop selling it. But due to the high cost in making this curve screen, not sure if Huawei will keep selling the magic.
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If price is inflated more than 7-8% id say its not worth it in your case since there is no other shipping costs involved. If your not really crazy about getting the phone, then 1-2 months you can get the phone with original price id say. But since im crazy about getting it, i wont mind if it inflated less than 7-8%.
The curved screen is there on the Mate 9 pro as well. I even see that the screen alone as a spare part for Honor magic is available for sale online. So i don't think that will be an issue. From what it seems, the curved screen is going to feature on P10 and other Huawei top end phones next year like the dual camera this year.
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If price is inflated more than 7-8% id say its not worth it in your case.
The curved screen is there on the Mate 9 pro as well. I even see that the screen alone as a spare part for Honor magic is available for sale online. So i don't think that will be an issue. From what it seems, the curved screen is going to feature on P10 and other Huawei top end phones next year like the dual camera this year.
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In that case, holding back is probably a good idea, but will see if it's available on the 9th.
It looks gorgeous, but I wish there wasn't a button on the front
CronaMell said:
It looks gorgeous, but I wish there wasn't a button on the front
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I agree probably looks better, of have a touch sensitive one without any markings.
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I agree probably looks better, of have a touch sensitive one without any markings.
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It looks samsung-ish with that placement, especially with the curved display
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It looks samsung-ish with that placement, especially with the curved display
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The Mate 9 pro looks more Samsung from the front, but the Honor magic has lots of differences i doubt anyone would confuse it as S7 edge.
I wonder which phone Honor will be unveiling tomorrow CES 2017. The teasers are about the camera but Honor magic hasn't brought anything new to the camera.
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The Mate 9 pro looks more Samsung from the front, but the Honor magic has lots of differences i doubt anyone would confuse it as S7 edge.
I wonder which phone Honor will be unveiling tomorrow CES 2017. The teasers are about the camera but Honor magic hasn't brought anything new to the camera.
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It's 90% honor 6x, but I hope for something better
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It's 90% honor 6x, but I hope for something better
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But nothing news worthy about 6x either that they would unveil it on a CES. I'm guessing a new phone with some new dual camera tech or honor phone that uses the Mate 9 20mp dual camera, along with 6x budget offering.
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But nothing news worthy about 6x either that they would unveil it on a CES. I'm guessing a new phone with some new dual camera tech or honor phone that uses the Mate 9 20mp dual camera, along with 6x budget offering.
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I wish this will happen
Review in Italian http://andreagaleazzi.com/recensione/honor-magic-recensione/
Video review in German
http://winfuture.de/videos/Hardware...stung-mit-kleinen-magischen-Extras-17433.html
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Does it feel smooth? I'm currently deciding if I should buy this phone or the Mate 20 lite (I'm buying with Tre at the same price), I really like the screen and the camera but the SoC is slower on the A7. As long as it is a smooth UI I'll buy this one, since I'm not that interested in graphics demanding games and CPU intensive apps, I just need it to be usable without lags and random freezes.
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Does it feel smooth? I'm currently deciding if I should buy this phone or the Mate 20 lite (I'm buying with Tre at the same price), I really like the screen and the camera but the SOC is slower on the A7. As long as it is a smooth UI I'll buy this one, since I'm not that interested in graphics demanding games and CPU intensive apps, I just need it to be usable without lags and random freezes.
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Don't buy the Mate 20, i bought one before getting the A7, the screen in the Mate 20 is really bad, has one of the grey "ish" blacks I've seen on any recent phones, my unit also had a problem with hot pixels that were only noticeable on black colors in very dark environments
Daniel00tm said:
Don't buy the Mate 20, i bought one before getting the A7, the screen in the Mate 20 is really bad, has one of the grey "ish" blacks I've seen on any recent phones, my unit also had a problem with hot pixels that were only noticeable on black colors in very dark environments
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Is it really that bad? I mean, it's an LCD, obviously OLED screens are better, but I was told and I found online that it's a fairly good LCD for a mid-range phone. Also, I don't really mind the screen, I just need a smooth system, and from experience I know Samsung ones can be quite heavy. On the other hand, after two years and a half of EMUI I'd like something that looks newer, and Huawei has recently stopped providing bootloader codes for free. That said, I'll still keep EMUI if it means that it's smoother.
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Is it really that bad? I mean, it's an LCD, obviously OLED screens are better, but I was told and I found online that it's a fairly good LCD for a mid-range phone. Also, I don't really mind the screen, I just need a smooth system, and from experience I know Samsung ones can be quite heavy. On the other hand, after two years and a half of EMUI I'd like something that looks newer, and Huawei has recently stopped providing bootloader codes for free. That said, I'll still keep EMUI if it means that it's smoother.
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The Mate 20 has a faster chipset, if your priority is power then i guess that's your best option, having said that, the A7 is a very smooth device, i have not found any stutter or any apps that struggles to handle, i think the experience is very good
i primarily use my phone for media consumption and was very disappointed with the screen and audio quality of the Mate 20, the volume with headphones is below average in volume
this is the way i see it:
Mate 20
pros
faster chipset
feels very premium in hand
cons
screen not as good as the A7
sound volume and quality are below average
has a notch
A7
pros
fantastic screen without a notch
very good audio quality (has dolby atmos)
better camera than the mate 20
is widevine L3 certified so you can watch netflix at full hd
you get always on display
cons
the device is very light in a cheap kind of way,
front camera doesn't have autofocus
the side bezels are a bit bigger than we are used to in 2019, i'll take that over a notch
doesn't have usb type-c
i hope that helps with your decision
Daniel00tm said:
The Mate 20 has a faster chipset, if your priority is power then i guess that's your best option, having said that, the A7 is a very smooth device, i have not found any stutter or any apps that struggles to handle, i think the experience is very good
i primarily use my phone for media consumption and was very disappointed with the screen and audio quality of the Mate 20, the volume with headphones is below average in volume
this is the way i see it:
Mate 20
pros
faster chipset
feels very premium in hand
cons
screen not as good as the A7
sound volume and quality are below average
has a notch
A7
pros
fantastic screen without a notch
very good audio quality (has dolby atmos)
better camera than the mate 20
is widevine L3 certified so you can watch netflix at full hd
you get always on display
cons
the device is very light in a cheap kind of way,
front camera doesn't have autofocus
the side bezels are a bit bigger than we are used to in 2019, i'll take that over a notch
doesn't have usb type-c
i hope that helps with your decision
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Well, thank you very much, I was lucky to find someone who has used both phones.
Also, sorry for the OT!
Daniel00tm said:
Don't buy the Mate 20, i bought one before getting the A7, the screen in the Mate 20 is really bad, has one of the grey "ish" blacks I've seen on any recent phones, my unit also had a problem with hot pixels that were only noticeable on black colors in very dark environments
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Should i buy the Xiaomi mi A2 over A7 2018? Can i have your opinion as well?
Gent' said:
Should i buy the Xiaomi mi A2 over A7 2018? Can i have your opinion as well?
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well, the xiaomi mi A2 is almost half the price of the A7, only $ 180, i don't think is a fair comparison, the A7 is better in every single way but that's to be expected from a device twice the price
if money is not a problem i would go for the A7, if you are on a budget and want to save some money then i guess the xiaomi is a good option, i've never had a xiaomi device so i can't really tell you what to expect
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Rollout: just a few minutes ago.
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Thanks a lot, a check with Smart Switch revealed that there is an update for the Netherlands as well. I guess for a lot of other European countries tool. Rooted phones will not receive the update OTA, you must manually download it. For that you can use Sammobile.com which is excruciatingly slow however. If it works, use SmartSwitch instead. It is ree, quicker, less of a hassle and you can be sure you get the right version for your phone.
Gent' said:
Should i buy the Xiaomi mi A2 over A7 2018? Can i have your opinion as well?
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Youre getting a way better camera,super amoled, one ui with a7. One ui is the best skin right now.
Mi a2 has sd660 which is slightly better in gaming and youre getting android one. Better updates.
For me, id go with a7 because of one ui and the camera. Go with mi a2 if you feel like gaming but battery is terrible

Vivo Nex S2 To Use a Detachable Camera Module

https://www.gizchina.com/2019/05/27/vivo-nex-2-to-use-a-detachable-camera-module/
Well seems we are just around the corner and truly successor of Nex S with a unique design approach by Vivo
Whata do you think guys how do you see than design ??
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No thanks. If you misplaced it that's the end. It also looks like it has curved glass. Another no thanks.
I'm beginning to really appreciate my Nex S more and more as new phones are being released. The OpO 7pro is admittedly an upgrade but nothing that tempts me to change. The Zenfone 6 is nice too but early battery numbers indicate the Nex matches the longevity despite that extra 1000mah and a 7nm soc. If this is the Nex S2 then I'm quite happy sticking with my old reliable one for now.
I agree. Curved glass should be against the law. It serves no purpose other than - what?
No reason to leave the Vivo Nex S until Android R is out (he will get Android Q), so we have 1 more year .
I would be maybe ready to upgrade only if i can get one with 5G, Wifi 6 (802.11.AX) and 5'000MAH battery but really no reason to change, the NEX is solid and still really fast.
I'm not leaving my NEX S until there's a device which blows this phone out of the water , specs wise I'm looking for 12gb ram, 6-7 inch super amoled or 4k screen, 90 herz refresh would be nice, under display or pop up camera, 4500 - 5000mah battery, latest prosseser stockish android, not bothered about a headphone Jack, I use Bluetooth, under display finger print reader optional, I was tempted too get the one plus 7 pro but I'm holding out for something that really floats my boat, I'm really happy with this phone at the moment so I'll hold on, Ive just got that itch too buy a new device, maybe the note 10 pro, but that camera hole in the screen is putting me off big-time :angel:
ruk21201 said:
I'm not leaving my NEX S until there's a device which blows this phone out of the water , specs wise I'm looking for 12gb ram, 6-7 inch super amoled or 4k screen, 90 herz refresh would be nice, under display or pop up camera, 4500 - 5000mah battery, latest prosseser stockish android, not bothered about a headphone Jack, I use Bluetooth, under display finger print reader optional, I was tempted too get the one plus 7 pro but I'm holding out for something that really floats my boat, I'm really happy with this phone at the moment so I'll hold on, Ive just got that itch too buy a new device, maybe the note 10 pro, but that camera hole in the screen is putting me off big-time :angel:
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With Vivo it's impossible getting stock or near stock Android experience.
Neither Note 10 offers near stock Android experience but agree that would be top of the line smartphone.
As with Vivo will shall see what going to release or not.
There's uncertainty if gone be successor of Nex S or not.
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With Vivo it's impossible getting stock or near stock Android experience.
Neither Note 10 offers near stock Android experience but agree that would be top of the line smartphone.
As with Vivo will shall see what going to release or not.
There's uncertainty if gone be successor of Nex S or not.
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Stock Android is barebones garbage.
Twotems said:
Stock Android is barebones garbage.
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I agree it was 2-3 year ego but not any more.
With Android Q Google has addressed many issues and missing features that some OEM offering.
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I agree it was 2-3 year ego but not any more.
With Android Q Google has addressed many issues and missing features that some OEM offering.
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OEM skins are still and will remain ahead of stock. There are plenty of useful features that stock still doesn't have. For example, I just started using Easy Touch on my NexS and set it to pull down the notification shade instead of reaching or using two hands. It's transformed the phone for me.
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OEM skins are still and will remain ahead of stock. There are plenty of useful features that stock still doesn't have. For example, I just started using Easy Touch on my NexS and set it to pull down the notification shade instead of reaching or using two hands. It's transformed the phone for me.
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Yes OEM still have the advantages over features and functionality but stock android has closed the gap.
Still prefer some OEM skin over stock but wouldn't consider any more deal breaker having device with stock or near stock android.
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Yes OEM still have the advantages over features and functionality but stock android has closed the gap.
Still prefer some OEM skin over stock but wouldn't consider any more deal breaker having device with stock or near stock android.
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Not necessarily a deal breaker but I'll take an OEM skin 9 times out of 10.
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Not necessarily a deal breaker but I'll take an OEM skin 9 times out of 10.
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To be honest I would consider Pixel device as my number one priority if had full screen experience without any stupid notch or punch holes and being 300-350 bucks cheaper that what costs. [emoji14]
Until then I'm dealing with Oneplus or Vivo as I'm aware of the software and how to manage it to meet my needs as better could be.
Sammy or Huawei as much as tried always something bothered me and couldn't deal with it as everyday long-term living with them.
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To be honest I would consider Pixel device as my number one priority if had full screen experience without any stupid notch or punch holes and being 300-350 bucks cheaper that what costs. [emoji14]
Until then I'm dealing with Oneplus or Vivo as I'm aware of the software and how to manage it to meet my needs as better could be.
Sammy or Huawei as much as tried always something bothered me and couldn't deal with it as everyday long-term living with them.
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I'm not a fan of Pixel devices. Ugly design, software bugs, average battery life and no dual-sim. Right now my sot is 4hrs 26mins with 63% remaining. This phone is amazing.
But has superior camera performance, ip68 water resistant, stereo speakers, instant updates.
Yes they're ugly as hell that's why I wouldn't consider yet as alternative +they're costs more than my budget.
So every users at the end choice whatever meets their needs.
Nobody perfect.
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How good is this camera on the mi note 10?

Hello,
I'm wondering if this phone is worth it, and how good is the camera with Gcam? are the 108 mp really a thing or is it pure marketing? Is there any other phone with similar price that is recommended? I'm thinking about get it but im not sure whether this is a good camera or not as i readed many complains.
Yes im referring to Mi 10 with 108MP.
Thank you in advance.
It's very good, but a little slow.
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bigoliver said:
It's very good, but a little slow.
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Is it still worth it for 400 euro brand new?
jasonhelene said:
Is it still worth it for 400 euro brand new?
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I paid £379 in March from the official UK store. I'm really happy with it for the price.
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I paid £379 in March from the official UK store. I'm really happy with it for the price.
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Nice, i think i will go for it then, i dont think i can get anything superior by this price range and it looks quite decent!
Thank you.
jasonhelene said:
Nice, i think i will go for it then, i dont think i can get anything superior by this price range and it looks quite decent!
Thank you.
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That was my logic too. Camera was the main feature I wanted.
There's obviously more options out there now, so it might not be as competitive as it was 8 months ago in March.
I wasn't bothered about 5g as I thought it would be at least a year or 2 before 5g benefits my area. Obviously there's been 8 months more of 5g infrastructure so depending where you live, and your needs, a 5g capable phone could be preferable?
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That was my logic too. Camera was the main feature I wanted.
There's obviously more options out there now, so it might not be as competitive as it was 8 months ago in March.
I wasn't bothered about 5g as I thought it would be at least a year or 2 before 5g benefits my area. Obviously there's been 8 months more of 5g infrastructure so depending where you live, and your needs, a 5g capable phone could be preferable?
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I still dont see that much need for 5G in a year at least so that wont be a problem, but the curvy screen is something i was looking to avoid as i dont like it, it is the only downside for me at the moment.
I was also looking into oneplus nord but i really think the camera is inferior, mi 10 and mi note 10 are still the ones im looking into right now, and they got amazing prices this end of the year.
In my area I agree with you about 5g atm, but if I was planning to keep the phone for 2 years I might then think about 'future' proofing.
I didn't fancy the curved screen either, as I was worried how screen protectors would work. Fortunately screen protectors still protect the screen, I've dropped my phone plenty and it's unharmed.
It can be difficult touching the edge of the screen at times, and you can accidently click on the curved edge, but neither of these things is a big deal. On the positive side the curve allows for a larger screen.
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In my area I agree with you about 5g atm, but if I was planning to keep the phone for 2 years I might then think about 'future' proofing.
I didn't fancy the curved screen either, as I was worried how screen protectors would work. Fortunately screen protectors still protect the screen, I've dropped my phone plenty and it's unharmed.
It can be difficult touching the edge of the screen at times, and you can accidently click on the curved edge, but neither of these things is a big deal. On the positive side the curve allows for a larger screen.
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Yeah you got an important point about the 5G and having a phone that will last. There is also the mi 10, which have better processor and is at a huge deal of 399.
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Yeah you got an important point about the 5G and having a phone that will last. There is also the mi 10, which have better processor and is at a huge deal of 399.
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I'd get the Mi 10 at €399 over the Mi Note 10 at €400. A Mi 10 at that price is currently a brilliant deal!
I wanted the Mi 10 but in the UK the Mi 10 was £799 and I got the Mi Note 10 for only £379.
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YEah i will go for it, i think it will worth every penny.
Thank you very much =)

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