These two models have totally same specs, but supported LTE bands are so different.
I don't know if I can use any Snapdragon Tools to add more bands for cc9 pro or note10.
I tried some Snapdragon tools on my Chinese version Redmi Note 7, but it doesn't work.
i dont think that its possible..
Vihru said:
i dont think that its possible..
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But Snapdragon tools works on Mi 6 and some older devices. It seems latest devices cannot add bands anymore.
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But Snapdragon tools works on Mi 6 and some older devices. It seems latest devices cannot add bands anymore.
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Because older software wont work on newer chipset. And new qualcomm software only owned by people who work with them (or very pricey). Not to mention, distributing it is serious violation.
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I'm very confused about this point. I'm guessing the answer is NO because I'm sure it would be displayed pretty prominently on the official OnePlus website if it was 5G compatible. I thought that the OnePlus 7 Pro was going to have 5G included and the OnePlus 7 wasn't going to have the 5G?
Can someone please clarify this
No, it doesn't have 5G support, there will be another version of the 7 Pro released later this year (possibly only in selected markets) that will have a 5G modem.
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No, it doesn't have 5G support, there will be another version of the 7 Pro released later this year (possibly only in selected markets) that will have a 5G modem.
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Ok thanks. I'm definitely NOT buying this phone then. I'm good with my Note 9 for a bit longer then.
SantinoInc said:
Ok thanks. I'm definitely NOT buying this phone then. I'm good with my Note 9 for a bit longer then.
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FWIW, judging by the LTE roll-out, by the time 5G hits NYC, 1+8 or 1+9 might be out already...
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No, it doesn't have 5G support, there will be another version of the 7 Pro released later this year (possibly only in selected markets) that will have a 5G modem.
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when you reckon?
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when you reckon?
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No clue and I don't really care. As duncanbyy said: If you buy a 5G phone now, you'll probably want to buy a new phone again before 5G actually becomes viable. Instead, it's probably going to have worse battery life because the 5G modem couldn't be integrated in the Snapdragon 855 SoC but is an extra chip...
The 5G variant should be released around the time that the 7T would have been released, but there won't be a 7T. T-Mobile's 5G launch should be some time this fall. For anyone wanting a OnePlus 5G device, the 7 and 7 Pro are not it.
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No clue and I don't really care. As duncanbyy said: If you buy a 5G phone now, you'll probably want to buy a new phone again before 5G actually becomes viable. Instead, it's probably going to have worse battery life because the 5G modem couldn't be integrated in the Snapdragon 855 SoC but is an extra chip...
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exactly this. no reason to hold out. no 5g infrastructure around me even. by the time that comes - or if - I'll be getting a new phone. no doubt. but that's easy due to my region.
then now that we are talking about 5G models
can anybody tell me why some phones are called GM1915 an some GM1917
Yes OnePlus team claims it'll support 5G
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I'm very confused about this point. I'm guessing the answer is NO because I'm sure it would be displayed pretty prominently on the official OnePlus website if it was 5G compatible. I thought that the OnePlus 7 Pro was going to have 5G included and the OnePlus 7 wasn't going to have the 5G?
Can someone please clarify this
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I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
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I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
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Ok, now I'm confused. If this phone is 5G capable then I may still consider getting it.
If it's 5G capable why isn't that advertised?
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Ok, now I'm confused. If this phone is 5G capable then I may still consider getting it.
If it's 5G capable why isn't that advertised?
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Because no providers offer 5G for at least a year no matter what they claim. At&t lies. They don't deliver 5G and neither does VZW. The other two don't claim to even be working on it right now.
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I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
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I'm sorry but you're the only person I have heard say that this phone is 5G capable. Every Google search shows websites stating that there will be 3 variants of this phone:
7, 7 Pro and 7 Pro 5G.
IDC if the infrastructure for 5G won't be completed for s while. I need to know if this phone is really 5G capable or not
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I have asked the rep from OnePlus if this will support 5G and he said yes it will there isn't a different device you need to get. The pro is 5G capable and this is confirmed.
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The 5G the OnePlus 7 Pro supports is for Europe and Asia only. Not North America!
I believe this identifies the phone as either the unlocked or carrier version.
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then now that we are talking about 5G models
can anybody tell me why some phones are called GM1915 an some GM1917
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I believe this identifies the phone as either the unlocked or carrier version.
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It's a firmware difference. Nothing more. The hardware is the same outside of the T-Mobile version having the second SIM tray filled in, but flashing it will enable the second SIM slot.
That is not true
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The 5G the OnePlus 7 Pro supports is for Europe and Asia only. Not North America!
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There is no 5G phone specifically for any region. It will work with 5G (OnePlus 7 Pro variant) . And real 5G is not coming to TMO for years from what rumor has it. It will need to be a firmware update more than likely as the antenna in the phone are all the same! I asked the rep and he told me that it was ready for 5G. You do not wanna believe a guy that works for the company and said he goes to pop up events in cities like LA and NYC then dont. Buy something else. The rumors that they would make two different phones were incorrect. There is no such model as OnePlus 7 Pro 5G. That is because all the 7 Pros are 5G capable. So do not want to trust me, fine. Buy a crap Samsung 10+ that supposedly is 5G ready. I would bet that the antenna in it is no different than OP7Pro.
The teardowns have been definitive. There are no 5G mmwave antennas or Snapdragon X50 inside.
Is there undisclosed 3.5 GHz 5G capability? Maybe. The firmware has hints of it. But again, no identifiable hardware to use it.
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The teardowns have been definitive. There are no 5G mmwave antennas or Snapdragon X50 inside.
Is there undisclosed 3.5 GHz 5G capability? Maybe. The firmware has hints of it. But again, no identifiable hardware to use it.
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Correct, OnePlus confirmed the 5G version have slightly different insides to fit the 5G modem. So standard Pro wont work with 5G.
5G is a No go with the current Pro...
I purchased a mate 30 pro 5G. However, after doing a bit of research it looks like China and Europe have chosen to use different 5g bands than the US. According to the phone spec sheet, it doesn't look like the phone is compatible with US 5Gg bands. Am I interpreting things incorrectly?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/5G-bands-explained-Verizon-vs-AT-T-vs-Sprint-vs-T-Mobile-vs-World_id116781
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I purchased a mate 30 pro 5G. However, after doing a bit of research it looks like China and Europe have chosen to use different 5g bands than the US. According to the phone spec sheet, it doesn't look like the phone is compatible with US 5Gg bands. Am I interpreting things incorrectly?
https://www.phonearena.com/news/5G-bands-explained-Verizon-vs-AT-T-vs-Sprint-vs-T-Mobile-vs-World_id116781
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usa has poor networks they dont have variety of bands only one .. we in eu has more 2 or 3
I don't think any of the Chinese 5G bands of the mate 30 pro are compatible with any 5G USA frequency. Unfortunately you paid a premium for not much.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/huawei-mate-30-pro
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I don't think any of the Chinese 5G bands of the mate 30 pro are compatible with any 5G USA frequency. Unfortunately you paid a premium for not much.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/huawei-mate-30-pro
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I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
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I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
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That's what it looks like, but I get 5g sometimes with AT&T. Some of their mid and low bands are compatible. I think more bands are opening up in the US so who knows what eventually will happen. I don't believe Huawei has launched the European version yet. They were waiting to see if the ban would be lifted so they could launch with Google play. Check the bands on gsmarena they have both models listed and the bands for each.
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I tried to find info on the difference between lio-tl00 and lio-an00 both Chinese versions...
Any idea which one is more suitable for Europe.
Thanks
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If you're referring to the 5G radio aspect and compatibility then according to gsm arena they all have the same frequencies.
Personally, if I were you I'd cross reference lio-an00 and lio-tl00 5g radio specs from an official Huawei website and compare it to what my countries 5G network has. That way you'd be 100% sure.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_30_pro_5g-9880.php
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If you're referring to the 5G radio aspect and compatibility then according to gsm arena they all have the same frequencies.
Personally, if I were you I'd cross reference lio-an00 and lio-tl00 5g radio specs from an official Huawei website and compare it to what my countries 5G network has. That way you'd be 100% sure.
https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_30_pro_5g-9880.php
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Thanks, I am going to pick up Chinese version 5G....
I have the 5G version in Spain and it works correctly although my operator Movistar has not yet deployed the 5G network in my city.
I'm wondering if we can unlock additional LTE bands in k30 Pro chinese variant for people who bought the Zoom version. I read it can be done on old devices and bands are not removed by hardware, only locked. Here you can read some examples:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-pro/how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/guide-how-to-unlock-additional-lte-bands-on-chinese-us-variants-of-oneplus-3.479445/
I hope an expert can throw some light about this and if it can be done on modern devices.
Not having band 20 on vodafone or virgin makes no difference in the U.K. This was an issue years ago as Europe only used band 20, Europe also use band 1,3 and 7 so really isn't a problem anymore. Please search what bands your country uses, it will more than likely use 20 still but the others will also be available. I'm using the zoom model.
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Not having band 20 on vodafone or virgin makes no difference in the U.K. This was an issue years ago as Europe only used band 20, Europe also use band 1,3 and 7 so really isn't a problem anymore. Please search what bands your country uses, it will more than likely use 20 still but the others will also be available. I'm using the zoom model.
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Well, if you're living in Germany band 20 is essential. Otherwise you won't have signal on the countryside.
So I'm also quite curious about unlocking different lte bands especially on the k30 pro zoom edition.
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I'm wondering if we can unlock additional LTE bands in k30 Pro chinese variant for people who bought the Zoom version. I read it can be done on old devices and bands are not removed by hardware, only locked. Here you can read some examples:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-pro/how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/guide-how-to-unlock-additional-lte-bands-on-chinese-us-variants-of-oneplus-3.479445/
I hope an expert can throw some light about this and if it can be done on modern devices.
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This would be marvellous!!
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Well, if you're living in Germany band 20 is essential. Otherwise you won't have signal on the countryside.
So I'm also quite curious about unlocking different lte bands especially on the k30 pro zoom edition.
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Same applies for Netherlands unfortunately. I might just go for the global Poco F2 Pro but I kinda want the Zoom edition lol.
@dhaern
Some info how 5G bands were unlocked on other phones (tools involved QXDM, QPST, com.qtrun.QuickTest)
Guide how to unlock bands and 5G on 700mhz
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-7a/help/5g-700mhz-unlock-t4114679
Enable 5G for OnePlus 8 series and OnePlus 7 5G
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/enable-5g-for-oneplus-8-series-and-oneplus-7-5g.1239089/
X55 spec wise should is able to handle two sim 5G
How many times will this come up? Seriously it can't be done.
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I'm wondering if we can unlock additional LTE bands in k30 Pro chinese variant for people who bought the Zoom version. I read it can be done on old devices and bands are not removed by hardware, only locked. Here you can read some examples:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-note-pro/how-to-unlock-lte-frequency-bands-mi-t3215880
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/guide-how-to-unlock-additional-lte-bands-on-chinese-us-variants-of-oneplus-3.479445/
I hope an expert can throw some light about this and if it can be done on modern devices.
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the above link was posted 5 years ago, I'm not an expert but I tried every means possible on the OnePlus 3t, I was also told by people that knew more about it than me that it couldn't be done.
I tried on my old galaxy S4 never been successful
Looks like it's impossible on our phones - QPST sees the phone, but can't do anything with modem memory. Maybe because it's encrypted.
I don't really need band 20, but LTE-A band 7+7 or 7+3 is very needed. In Chinese 2020 models Xiaomi cuts off CA 7+7 support for some reason. My Redmi K20 holds LTE-A CA 7+7 easily.
Hello XDA,
I was wondering why the Mi 10 Pro/5G and other phones using the latest Snapdragon chips only support limited CDMA bands? It was my impression that Snapdragon chips have the modem/cellular built into them. So is it just a lack of support via the software or do they actually have a separate chip that attributes to cellular signal/processing? I've been wondering this awhile but have been unable to find any information relating to this.
Thanks
The 865 has a separate modem, unlike the 765 which has an integrated modem (and runs at half the speed). It is my understanding that while the 865 is capable of all the bands, the OEMs select which to use per market. For example, the US has lots more bands than the EU. Hong Kong doesn't use band 20, so it's not implemented there while it is in the EU. You get the idea. As to why they don't just enable all bands and be done with it, I really don't understand either. iPhones, for example, seem to work everywhere.
I just bought a OnePlus Nord CE 2 5G that was advertised as "International Version", expecting it to be the "European" version of the phone, but I think I might have gotten the "Indian" version. I say this because it came with a paper insert that mentions the 4g and 5g bands and power limits that are supposedly supported by the phone, and the list doesn't agree with those of the "European" version. It doesn't agree with the "Indian" version either. The phone model number is IV2201.
According to the OnePlus website, the "Indian" version supports:
LTE-FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8
LTE-TDD: B38/39/40/41
5G SA: 1/3/5/8/40/41/78
5G NSA: 1/3/5/8/40/41/77/78
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According to the OnePlus website, the "European" version supports:
LTE-FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28/66
LTE-TDD: B38/39/40/41
5G SA:1/3/5/7/8/20/28/38/40/41/78
5G NSA: 1/3/5/7/8/20/28/38/40/41/66/77/78
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And according to the paper insert that came with my phone (One Plus Nord CE 2 5G IV2201), whatever version I have mentions the following, which doesn't agree with any of the alternatives mentioned above:
LTE: 1/3/7/8/20/28/38/40
5G: n1/n3/n7/n8/n20/n28/n38/n40/n41/n77/n78
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How can I know whether I have the "European" or the "Indian" version? The phone is not rooted. I would prefer not having to root it just to figure this out.
Thank you.
Same for me, bought it off amazon and it seems to be the indian version. I plan on rooting it and for that it seems I need boot.img and vba.img from the latest full system upgrade. However for the eu version there don't seem to be full system upgrades (yet?) only partial ones.
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One Plus Nord CE 2 5G IV2201
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I have this model too. Do you know if it can be rooted?